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  Teala

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10/16/09 11:51:41 AM#1

Which news source do you feel is the least biased and good source for straight facts?

 

Least biased and best source of news in general?

Reuters
Associated Press
BBC World
CNN
Fox News
Telegraph
ITN
Bloomberg
Huffington Post
other or mix of some of these
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  Dekron

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10/16/09 12:02:41 PM#2

You forgot the option "none".

The only network who doesn't have their lips planted on Obama's ass (some are cranking the shaft as well) is Fox. Is that to say they are unbiased? Nope, just not Obamafatuated.

By the way, I don't agree with you that the relevant market here is health care. You're not regulating health care. You're regulating insurance. It's the insurance market that you're addressing and you're saying that some people who are not in it must be in it, and that's -- that's different from regulating in any manner commerce that already exists out there. - Scalia

  sepher

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10/16/09 12:25:16 PM#3

I'll take a glance at all of them on a daily basis. I visit HuffingtonPost and Drudge Report at just about the same frequency.

You aren't going to find an unbiased news source, but bias isn't the problem. Bias can be filtered and the facts still left. The problem is when a network just plain lies and propogates false information, or otherwise behaves dishonestly and the facts are obscured.

One thing we can count on is the networks squabbling. So usually they're anxious to point out when another one lies, so the competition sorta imperfectly self-regulates itself there when it comes to the truth, of course with bias still attached.

Anyway, take the facts, further research the issues of your own, and don't buy into the favortism. The news networks can still be valuable if approached with that kind of caution. Nothin wrong with letting the networks do your digging for you, just don't blindly trust their opinion of what they've brought you or whether or not they've dug deeply enough.

  deviliscious

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10/16/09 12:53:28 PM#4

None.

  Teala

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10/16/09 1:12:10 PM#5

Oh god...who of you are choosing Fox News?    I thought people on this forum were smarter than that.  I guess I was wrong.

  sepher

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10/16/09 1:16:12 PM#6
Originally posted by Teala

Oh god...who of you are choosing Fox News?    I thought people on this forum were smarter than that.  I guess I was wrong.


 

Most of the topics on these forums are unfettered Fox News talking points if you haven't noticed. It's a dominant influence here.

  KarlRove

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10/16/09 1:26:08 PM#7
Originally posted by Teala

Which news source do you feel is a biased and good source?

 

 

Fox is a biased and good source. News is a business and you can't argue that Fox does the best business in the business! Fox's shock and awe technique creates customers and keeps them tuning in. That's how you make money. If people want independent brand facts they can start their own company. We conservatives like the brand of facts that Fox sells!

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  smokemonsc

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10/16/09 1:35:11 PM#8

interesting thread.  I actually like getting my "news" from all of those, and I'd add another.  Al Jezeera.  They present news in an interesting way through the middle eastern perspective.  There's one guy they have on their english channel who interviewed Ron Paul awhile ago, and it was the best interview I've seen in a long time.  Not becuase it was Ron Paul, but because the interviewer asked hard questions and gave the interviewee time to answer it without interrupting him like so many pundits due on cable news.

I can't recall the guy's name on Al Jezeera but do a Al Jezeera + Ron Paul interview google and I'm sure you'll find it.

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  nurgles

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10/16/09 2:09:12 PM#9

I tend to look at each news story and consider how much editorial there is vs how much verifiable facts.

often comparing a story with http://www.abc.net.au/news/ and the bbc.

I want news not opinion, for opinion I come here.

  deviliscious

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10/16/09 2:11:59 PM#10
Originally posted by Teala

Oh god...who of you are choosing Fox News?    I thought people on this forum were smarter than that.  I guess I was wrong.

I can't see the answers , I didn't vote because there was no " none" option. LOL
 

  Mardy

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10/16/09 2:20:30 PM#11

Which one did you pick Teala?

 

There's no news source you'll find that's complete unbiased.  But bias doesn't bother me, I can choose to not read/watch them, I can choose to disagree with them.  But what's important for me is for them to report the good, bad, and the ugly.  I want them to report the full story, not just small clips of what they feel we should know.  So that *I* can decide myself how to think or feel about a certain situation/issue.  I hate to say it but Fox reports more of a full news than most other news source.  This is coming from an independent who's tired of being lied to by politicians in both parties.

 

So while I don't agree with half of their opinions, I at least get almost the full story everytime I watch them.  And no with hockey season going on, I watch news probably twice a week on TV.  I'm not someone that watch anything religiously on TV.  I do however google up my news almost everyday while at work.  Yes I said google, not foxnews.com.

 

For people hating Fox, I wonder do you simply disagree with their opinions?  Or do you disagree with the rest of the facts & stories that other news outlet don't want to report?  Because it's OK to disagree with their opinions.  But to disagree with the ugly stories that rest of the mainstream media don't want to report, that's just being close minded.

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  Teala

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10/16/09 3:24:41 PM#12

A look to a smattering of like BBC World, Reuters and AP and a few others like NPR - FOX and CNN both make me cringe.

  User Deleted
10/16/09 3:37:08 PM#13

So Fox is allowed to be on the poll but MSNBC isn't?  Not that I would vote for it, but out of fairness it should have been.

 

I could have told you without putting up a poll that Fox news would be winning this.  Based on the bullshit that is posted here constantly.

 

Search most biased news network on google?  The first page is dominated by Fox news and MSNBC.  But the right will just claim the internet has a liberal bias.  And even liberals (including myself) rarely watch MSNBC for any type of reliable political news.

  smokemonsc

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10/16/09 4:00:56 PM#14
Originally posted by Sabiancym

So Fox is allowed to be on the poll but MSNBC isn't?  Not that I would vote for it, but out of fairness it should have been.

 

I could have told you without putting up a poll that Fox news would be winning this.  Based on the bullshit that is posted here constantly.

 

Search most biased news network on google?  The first page is dominated by Fox news and MSNBC.  But the right will just claim the internet has a liberal bias.  And even liberals (including myself) rarely watch MSNBC for any type of reliable political news.


 

Interesting enough Sab I have read several articles about the bias of google, although none have been convincing.  It was my understanding that google does track hit count and will display pages with higher hit counts prior to ones with smaller hit counts.  So to me google will only represent the bias of people using google.

Ex. There are far fewer positive articles in the first google page for George W Bush than Barak Obama but that doesn't necessarily mean that google is purposefully trying to influence people's minds =p

For the internet to have truely no bias then it'd have to be 50-50.  I sincerly doubt that's even possible lol.

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  Teala

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10/16/09 4:04:38 PM#15
Originally posted by Sabiancym

So Fox is allowed to be on the poll but MSNBC isn't?  Not that I would vote for it, but out of fairness it should have been.

 

I could have told you without putting up a poll that Fox news would be winning this.  Based on the bullshit that is posted here constantly.

 

Search most biased news network on google?  The first page is dominated by Fox news and MSNBC.  But the right will just claim the internet has a liberal bias.  And even liberals (including myself) rarely watch MSNBC for any type of reliable political news.


 

No room to add all the news sources, so I took a kinda wider approach.   Sorry for not adding Al Jazeera and IANS...but I did what I could.  

  sepher

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10/16/09 4:30:12 PM#16
Originally posted by Sabiancym

So Fox is allowed to be on the poll but MSNBC isn't?  Not that I would vote for it, but out of fairness it should have been.

 

I could have told you without putting up a poll that Fox news would be winning this.  Based on the bullshit that is posted here constantly.

 

Search most biased news network on google?  The first page is dominated by Fox news and MSNBC.  But the right will just claim the internet has a liberal bias.  And even liberals (including myself) rarely watch MSNBC for any type of reliable political news.


 

Yep.

Sometimes I can stand MSNBC, sometimes I can't. 80% of the time I can't watch The Ed Show because even if I agree 200% with his passion and what he says, I cannot in all decency believe while watching that I'm getting an unfettered source of news. The same goes for Olbermann when he goes TOO far into zealot territory.

At the same time, MSNBC doesn't profess to be "fair and balanced". Bias and honesty can co-exist, and I think MSNBC does the better job of balancing the two when compared to Fox News and CNN.

Fox News dares to call itself fair and balanced when it EMPLOYS active politicians. Huckabee is probably the best polling potential opponent to Obama in 2012 and he has a freakin' television show. Fair and balanced though. Newt Gingrinch has polled high as well earlier this year and is listed on the talent page of Fox News as a political contributor.

I'm not going to bother slamming Fox News. The ones that want to defend it will defend it. But those very same people defending it would crap themselves if MSNBC gave Hilary Clinton a daytime talkshow and replaced Joe Scaraborough and Pat Buchanan with David Axelrod and Nancy Pelosi.

I'd love it if we in our own best interests judged each network fairly, but so long as those on the right will defend Fox News as a pure, fair, balanced source of news when its blatantly the most bias of them all, what progress can be made?

Fox News has secured itself a Limbaugh-esque audience. Huge and will guarantee them ratings and money galore, but ultimately very, very niche and not mainstream America.

  kobie173

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10/16/09 4:35:21 PM#17

The only reasonable purpose to watch Fox News OR MSNBC is for self-affirmation. To watch a talking head speak and say "Fuck yeah! This guy knows what he's talking about!" It's masturbation. That's about it. You're not getting actual news out of it.

However, most MSNBC viewers that I know are fully cognizant of that fact. That's why you don't often hear people regurgitating Keith Olbermann's show talking point-by-talking point.

Can't say the same for viewers Beck/Hannity/BillO (or Rush listeners; while he's not on Fox News, he basically gets the Fox News people while they're driving home from work). FAR too many of them spout off what they hear on these programs as ironclad fact, and when you challenge the veracity of these "facts," you are part of the jihad to destroy America.

So I started to walk into the water. I won't lie to you boys...I was terrified. But I pressed on, and as I made my way past the breakers, a strange calm came over me. I don't know if it was divine intervention or the kinship of all living things, but I tell you, Jerry, at that moment ... I was a marine biologist.

  Gameloading

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10/16/09 5:00:20 PM#18
Originally posted by zzvicezz

Reuters, Associated Press, and United Press International are basically the sources of all news stories you read. AP tends to be the most common of the 3. SO I don't know why you include them with those who publish them...but whatever.

 

FOX News no matter how much you dislike them more then other station presents facts to its viewers to decide on and more often then the others presents opinions on those facts from both sides.


No it doesn't. FOX news is more biased than pretty much any news station around, the only reason you defend them is because you're just as biased as they are.

  kobie173

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10/16/09 5:01:49 PM#19
Originally posted by zzvicezz

FOX News no matter how much you dislike them more then other station presents facts to its viewers to decide on and more often then the others presents opinions on those facts from both sides.


Any objective, non-partisan news media analysis source you consult will say that this is complete fiction. The fact that you think Fox News is somehow balanced just proves you have absolutely no clue what you're talking about.

So I started to walk into the water. I won't lie to you boys...I was terrified. But I pressed on, and as I made my way past the breakers, a strange calm came over me. I don't know if it was divine intervention or the kinship of all living things, but I tell you, Jerry, at that moment ... I was a marine biologist.

  kobie173

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10/16/09 5:15:47 PM#20
Originally posted by zzvicezz
Originally posted by smokemonsc
It was my understanding that google does track hit count and will display pages with higher hit counts prior to ones with smaller hit counts.  So to me google will only represent the bias of people using google.

 

Its called Google Bombing.  Heres the wikipedia(just for information) on it http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_bomb

 

Its not simply how many hits a site gets but key words etc..so when you do a search of x certain articles will pop up.

Media Matters does it alot.

IE-

Search- Kevin Jennings NAMBLA

Click new tab..who pops up with article after article...

..and Media Matters isn't even a news source of any legitimacy. 

 

Media Matters isn't a news source, PERIOD. MMFA does not generate news reports.

So I started to walk into the water. I won't lie to you boys...I was terrified. But I pressed on, and as I made my way past the breakers, a strange calm came over me. I don't know if it was divine intervention or the kinship of all living things, but I tell you, Jerry, at that moment ... I was a marine biologist.

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