Originally posted by shepx22

Originally posted by Mortemia

Well, if you like the design and don't have a problem with the price, then go for it. Saying "Don't buy Alienware cos they are so expensive" is like saying "Don't buy Mercedes, get a Lada. It has four wheels too."

 

Haha not true at all. When a Mercedes as has a different motor then a Lada or any other comparision. You get what you pay for, when buying an expensive car, except some is towards the name, but its a hell of alot better quality.

 

Buying an Alienware over another computer when you can build the same for easily $500-$1000 less, when using the exact same components, then again, not compareable to buying a car. Nice try though.

A clear sign you haven't obviously ever owned something like Alienware, Sager, Falcon? Ok it's cool. You know you get the components cheaper. That's about it. High end computers are so much more than just the CPU and GPU inside it.

Originally posted by Mortemia 

A clear sign you haven't obviously ever owned something like Alienware, Sager, Falcon? Ok it's cool. You know you get the components cheaper. That's about it. High end computers are so much more than just the CPU and GPU inside it.

Unless you are obsessed with LED lights, moving access doors and vents which move for no reason the Alienware offers nothing over a good tower case. Get a case like mine designed for SOHO servers and you get vertical cooling, hot swappable sled bays, a locking system all without plastic doohickeys to break. Just pick up the appropriate PSU and you're golden.

No LEDs, but you can always attach some Christmas lights to it for the holidays.

Originally posted by Yoottos'Horg

Originally posted by tvalentine

Originally posted by Yoottos'Horg

 

Not everyone has the time, patience and knowledge to assemble their own computer.

 

it doesnt take that long ... and it isnt hard to learn. Hell i built my first computer when i was 16 and i mostly went through the manual to figure out what goes where. Just lazy people who dont mind paying a little extra.

 

I don't think you're necessarily taking everything into account. Some people are lazy and don't mind paying extra but I wouldn't group every person who purchases a pre-made PC into that category. What about that father/mother who wants to purchase their child a computer but doesn't have the knowledge to assemble one or the time to (they work 9-5 and have to cook dinner after work) research hardware and build the PC?

this is a gaming forum... most people here are nerds who have atleast a very basic knowledge of computers. Even so what kind of parent would buy their kid a $3,000+ computer? A lazy person who doesn't mind paying extra for a pre-built computer

Originally posted by tvalentine

Originally posted by Yoottos'Horg

 

I don't think you're necessarily taking everything into account. Some people are lazy and don't mind paying extra but I wouldn't group every person who purchases a pre-made PC into that category. What about that father/mother who wants to purchase their child a computer but doesn't have the knowledge to assemble one or the time to (they work 9-5 and have to cook dinner after work) research hardware and build the PC?

 

this is a gaming forum... most people here are nerds who have atleast a very basic knowledge of computers. Even so what kind of parent would buy their kid a $3,000+ computer? A lazy person who doesn't mind paying extra for a pre-built computer

I would hardly call a parent who can afford a $3,000 computer lazy. They probably do something worth a decent amount of money with their time and it isn't sitting on the couch reading PCGamer.

You have your opinion and I have mine. I obviously think yours is biased with nerd-elitism (if there is such a thing) but hey, what can ya do? <shrug>

Originally posted by Yoottos'Horg

Originally posted by tvalentine

Originally posted by Yoottos'Horg

 

I don't think you're necessarily taking everything into account. Some people are lazy and don't mind paying extra but I wouldn't group every person who purchases a pre-made PC into that category. What about that father/mother who wants to purchase their child a computer but doesn't have the knowledge to assemble one or the time to (they work 9-5 and have to cook dinner after work) research hardware and build the PC?

 

this is a gaming forum... most people here are nerds who have atleast a very basic knowledge of computers. Even so what kind of parent would buy their kid a $3,000+ computer? A lazy person who doesn't mind paying extra for a pre-built computer

 

I would hardly call a parent who can afford a $3,000 computer lazy. They probably do something worth a decent amount of money with their time and it isn't sitting on the couch reading PCGamer.

 

You have your opinion and I have mine. I obviously think yours is biased with nerd-elitism (if there is such a thing) but hey, what can ya do? <shrug>

yes and your opinion is so much greater. It isnt nerd elitism its a discussion on a gaming forum ... like i said is a place where people know the very basic parts of computers (like 4gb of ram is better then 2), also there is a hardware forum here .... you could literally learn how to build a PC in no time. People who usually don't have money to spend another 700$ for a fancy case and accessories. Now if we were on some forum that isnt related to gaming or tech stuff i would say .... it's for people who are lazy and dont want to spend alot of money. They could learn in an hour how to build a computer and save 700$ but they wont because they are lazy and dont want to spend time saving money. Instead they would buy the expensive computer for 700$ more then you could get it because they have extra money to spend.

Actually i guess it isnt lazy, what i would say would be more, buying pre-built computers is for people who dont know anything about computers and have extra money to spend. Since you know .... they have time to browse forums but not find out how to save 700$..... This is really a pointless argument you're using to convince yourself that its ok to spend more money then you should on a computer ... its ok though dude, you don't need to.

Ok, so you dont know how to build a computer? Get someone to build it for you and save 950$ instead of saving 1000$.

Look, over the last few months I priced lots of computers. I did a lot of looking at Alienware products. In the end, I purchased all my components from Newegg and built it myself. I had never built a computer before. It was easy and I would do it again in a heartbeat. When the new Alienware lines came out I did a price comparison of a similar spec to the one I built. It would have cost $1200 dollars more just to get the Alienware name stamped on it. Even the case design I have looks way cooler than the Alienware ones. I had several people who saw my computer ask if it WAS Alienware. Heh...I found that amusing.

Building a computer is not difficult. Requires barely any tools. And you get to choose each and every part and manufacturer you want. Ensuring you are getting what you are paying for. That cannot be said about any prebuilt machine from any company, including Alienware.

Don't get drawn in by the brand name. In the end, you can have the computer you want for much cheaper along with the satisfaction of doing it yourself. Like I said, I had never done it before...but, I ended up enjoying the whole build process.

I've liked their case designs up until now. These new ones just look awful to me.

Originally posted by Ephimero

Ok, so you dont know how to build a computer? Get someone to build it for you and save 950$ instead of saving 1000$.

Or goto one of the many independent computer repair stores available. Most will build you a comp for a flat fee to any spec you want. It may cost you $150 or so, but compared to Alienware or iBuypower and such you will still come out ahead.

Just because Alienware, Bestbuy and others advertise constatnly does not make then the only option. Open up the phone book and actually price shop.

I do not buy alien ware cause i don't like my computers looking like they are going to abduct and annal probe people in their off time.