Originally posted by Barteaux

Age of Conan is the best MMO out now.

 

The botched launch made this game the hate object of many players, and hence they want it to fail.

 

 

Of top of my head: Finaticd and Blackwell99 who is hyperactive haters on this forum. If you ignore those two you will get a completly different view of how this forums see this game...
 

Originally posted by Rdlaban

Originally posted by Barteaux

Age of Conan is the best MMO out now.

 

The botched launch made this game the hate object of many players, and hence they want it to fail.

 

 

 

Of top of my head: Finaticd and Blackwell99 who is hyperactive haters on this forum. If you ignore those two you will get a completly different view of how this forums see this game...
 

 

2 hyperactive haters compared to how many hyperactive fanbois who have been swearing since release that the game is perfect and has no flaws ?

Originally posted by Jackdog

Originally posted by Rdlaban

Originally posted by Barteaux

Age of Conan is the best MMO out now.

 

The botched launch made this game the hate object of many players, and hence they want it to fail.

 

 

 

Of top of my head: Finaticd and Blackwell99 who is hyperactive haters on this forum. If you ignore those two you will get a completly different view of how this forums see this game...
 

 

2 hyperactive haters compared to how many hyperactive fanbois who have been swearing since release that the game is perfect and has no flaws ?

 

 

Only you that I can think of Jackdog:)

Originally posted by Rdlaban

Originally posted by Barteaux

Age of Conan is the best MMO out now.

 

The botched launch made this game the hate object of many players, and hence they want it to fail.

 

 

 

Of top of my head: Finaticd and Blackwell99 who is hyperactive haters on this forum. If you ignore those two you will get a completly different view of how this forums see this game...
 

 

I think the best place for someone to get their info is on AoC's forums. Let them see for themselves the legions of unsatisfied players:  forums.ageofconan.com/forumdisplay.php

Because here, us "haters" are the only thing between legitimate shoppers (who actually want to know if the game sucks) and the never-ending parade of Viral Marketers. Which has been stated by Funcom as part of their marketing program in their most recent quarterly,

I know some would rather not have anyone here telling the truth about how the game has de-evolved since Craig Morrison has "hit" the scene. Or how the game is on a the fast-track to F2P. Nevermind the anemic population--everyone (especially FC) is tight lipped about that.

Instead you'd rather suggest that the game doesn't have any game breaking issues, and that everything is great in AoC's current state. Meanwhile the game has actually de-evolved...which is to say....a poorly designed game...has actually become more poorly designed (incredible isn't it?). As reflected here:forums.ageofconan.com/forumdisplay.php (Choose any thread and read--whose arguments do they back up?)

Sorry if honesty clashes with anyone's agenda.

Originally posted by Jackdog

Originally posted by Rdlaban

Originally posted by Barteaux

Age of Conan is the best MMO out now.

 

The botched launch made this game the hate object of many players, and hence they want it to fail.

 

 

 

Of top of my head: Finaticd and Blackwell99 who is hyperactive haters on this forum. If you ignore those two you will get a completly different view of how this forums see this game...
 

 

2 hyperactive haters compared to how many hyperactive fanbois who have been swearing since release that the game is perfect and has no flaws ?

 

 

In all the time I've browsed this forum (since aoc's launch), I have never seen a person claim anything remotely similar to what you just said.

Originally posted by Malickie

Originally posted by Jackdog

Originally posted by Rdlaban

Originally posted by Barteaux

Age of Conan is the best MMO out now.

 

The botched launch made this game the hate object of many players, and hence they want it to fail.

 

 

 

Of top of my head: Finaticd and Blackwell99 who is hyperactive haters on this forum. If you ignore those two you will get a completly different view of how this forums see this game...
 

 

2 hyperactive haters compared to how many hyperactive fanbois who have been swearing since release that the game is perfect and has no flaws ?

 

 

In all the time I've browsed this forum (since aoc's launch), I have never seen a person claim anything remotely similar to what you just said.

oh I think we all know better than that, if memory serves correct though at AoC's launch you were still a SWG fan. However there is at least one has never posted a critical thing about AoC or did anything except make excuses no matter what FC did since pre launch and several other posters who have done nothing but praise AoC since their first post. So yes, there is plenty of balance between troll and fanboy

Originally posted by Jaklax

Originally posted by finaticd

@ the forum traffic discussion:

According to this site www.xfire.com/games/aoc/Age_of_Conan_Hyborian_Adventures/ there is not enough players online to do anything, spo maybe they come to the forums to recruit more players. Those types that come to forum don't realize that AOC has verry little to do.

Def no shortage of players on my server.. never an issue finding groups or even walking 10ft without running into another player

I don't have any problems either, but we both play the game and the other person likes to pull xfire numbers like they mean something since they don't play the game.

I don't even use xfire anymore. I need to take it out of my sig.

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Originally posted by finaticd
@ the forum traffic discussion:
According to this site www.xfire.com/games/aoc/Age_of_Conan_Hyborian_Adventures/ there is not enough players online to do anything, spo maybe they come to the forums to recruit more players. Those types that come to forum don't realize that AOC has verry little to do.

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My God ... do you live and die by that crappy X Fire? Do you have stock in them or something. Maybe one of their dev's?

Anyone who actually bases anything off those numbers and really believes they tell anyone anything except what X fire people do is ... nevermind. The world needs idiots too just to make everyone else feel better.

what is really amusing is that when AoC had it's XFire contest and AoC shot back into the mid 20's, the same people trashing the XFire in this thread were hyping AoC's XFire numbers to high heaven  LOL

but then you don't really need XFire to know that AoC is pretty much breathing it's final gasps, just DL the free trial and see for yourself

Originally posted by Jackdog

what is really amusing is that when AoC had it's XFire contest and AoC shot back into the mid 20's, the same people trashing the XFire in this thread were hyping AoC's XFire numbers to high heaven  LOL

 

but then you don't really need XFire to know that AoC is pretty much breathing it's final gasps, just DL the free trial and see for yourself

Please Jackdog go through the posters history and see if you can find something to support your statement. 

Or did the air just leave the balloon?

Originally posted by Rdlaban

Originally posted by Jackdog

what is really amusing is that when AoC had it's XFire contest and AoC shot back into the mid 20's, the same people trashing the XFire in this thread were hyping AoC's XFire numbers to high heaven  LOL

 

but then you don't really need XFire to know that AoC is pretty much breathing it's final gasps, just DL the free trial and see for yourself

Please Jackdog go through the posters history and see if you can find something to support your statement. 

Or did the air just leave the balloon?

like I am really going to sit here and scroll back through 3 months of posts so I can win a internet argument.... dont think so

Originally posted by Jackdog

Originally posted by Rdlaban

Originally posted by Jackdog

what is really amusing is that when AoC had it's XFire contest and AoC shot back into the mid 20's, the same people trashing the XFire in this thread were hyping AoC's XFire numbers to high heaven  LOL

 

but then you don't really need XFire to know that AoC is pretty much breathing it's final gasps, just DL the free trial and see for yourself

Please Jackdog go through the posters history and see if you can find something to support your statement. 

Or did the air just leave the balloon?

like I am really going to sit here and scroll back through 3 months of posts so I can win a internet argument.... dont think so

Yawn...tired arguments mixed with xfire results that are only paid attention to if they support your love/hate for a game.

AoC is breathing its final gasps? based on what arbitrary numbers?  People like you (acutally judging from your sig it probably was you) have been saying the same stuff about anarchy online for the last, what, has it been over a decade now?

If another game run by the same company (and made considerably less at its launch) is able to stay running, with updates/expansions/patches for over 10 years on "low" subscription numbers...is that game a failure?  

What do you gain rooting for AoC's demise anyway...its just a game..what you lost out of $50-$100 over a year ago because you didnt like it?

Next time dont be a sucker, save yourself the agony, wait a few months then buy a new game, spare us all years of trolling please.

Every gamer playing his very favorite MMO is going to say it is the best MMO out there and have an equal list of why's.

It's a pointless claim.

Originally posted by Fibsdk

Every gamer playing his very favorite MMO is going to say it is the best MMO out there and have an equal list of why's.

 

It's a pointless claim.

Well that is true, but sometimes people just want to talk about their opinions. No need to read much in to them. I post here not to tell people not to play Age of Conan or to tell people to play Age of Conan. For example, you won't see me posting "OMG go play AoC" or have the exact opposite premise. I simply like to talk about the game, the continued improvements I experience enhances my game time. At the same time I think that in some particular area's update focus should be switched around a little. I also like the lore too and the fact I think it is the best looking and atmosphere I can have in an mmorpg. Sometimes people will have a positive experience that they feel other people would benefit from and that the positives outweigh the negatives in game. Like the OP who left and game back again.

For me as a curious reader it is better than sifting through Xfire threads or Stocks etc etc and it is not telling me about the game itself.

Originally posted by Jackdog

Originally posted by Malickie

Originally posted by Jackdog

 

2 hyperactive haters compared to how many hyperactive fanbois who have been swearing since release that the game is perfect and has no flaws ?

 

 

In all the time I've browsed this forum (since aoc's launch), I have never seen a person claim anything remotely similar to what you just said.

oh I think we all know better than that, if memory serves correct though at AoC's launch you were still a SWG fan. However there is at least one has never posted a critical thing about AoC or did anything except make excuses no matter what FC did since pre launch and several other posters who have done nothing but praise AoC since their first post. So yes, there is plenty of balance between troll and fanboy

Haven't been an SWG fan since 05', but yes there's a balance between those who like and don't like. That's actually a good thing IMO it tells you the truth lies somewhere in-between the opposing opinions. I have never once seen someone say ( who could be taken seriously) anything like that. There may have been a few extreme views posted slanted one way or the other, I still haven't seen a statement that AOC was flawless, maybe I missed it.

I have seen quite a few names (I won't say posters for various reasons). That have consistently downed this game never taking a middle ground on a single issue. That's the only thing that really bothers me TBH. Even Avery who is probably the biggest supporter here, takes a middle ground here and there.

Originally posted by Jackdog

Originally posted by Rdlaban

Originally posted by Jackdog

what is really amusing is that when AoC had it's XFire contest and AoC shot back into the mid 20's, the same people trashing the XFire in this thread were hyping AoC's XFire numbers to high heaven  LOL

 

but then you don't really need XFire to know that AoC is pretty much breathing it's final gasps, just DL the free trial and see for yourself

Please Jackdog go through the posters history and see if you can find something to support your statement. 

Or did the air just leave the balloon?

like I am really going to sit here and scroll back through 3 months of posts so I can win a internet argument.... dont think so

Called your bluff ey? 

"Jackdog - Talking shit since aug 97"

I havent posted here in awhile, im pretty much what you would call a grade "A" lurker..

 I just wanted to point something out..

Originally posted by Jackdog

Still has more unique hits here than some other games over the past 6 months I would say the forums here are just fine. I don't know if you noticed the half a dozen troll/alt accounts that were banned in the past couple weeks.

www.google.com/trends

Google trends data does not support the statement that there is a lot of interest in AOC

the Google Trends graphs show 2 things

the top graph has the number of times people have used Google to search for the term,

the bottom graph shows number of times the term has ended up in Google news.

It is pretty obvious looking at the two graphs that Lotro has been used as a search term much more than AoC or Warhammer even though the bottom graph shows that Warhammer and AoC has been in the news more. Draw whatever conclusion soyu want but to me it looks like that many people are just not looking for AoC info on the web, even though AoC has been hyped to high heaven all year long 
  

http://www.google.com/trends?q=AoC%2C+lotro%2C+warhammer+online&ctab=0&geo=all&date=ytd&sort=0

If you actually used the Acryonym instead of the full game name, (as obviously everyone calls it AoC) - your point you were trying to make about it the lowest, not being searched,  etc - is wrong. Its actually the opposite. AoC is the highest in the example when you actually use what people search for..

AoC rocks - Ive been playing it since New years day. I am in a raiding guild, we clear Tier2 every week, and we run Alt raids as well, where we clear T1, and T2.  We are very much looking forward to T3!   (should be on test next week or so).

To give you an idea, I played EQ 5 yrs, EQ2 5 yrs, and pretty much every other MMO for at least a few months.. except Lotro , I played that maybe 20m in beta.  Wow maybe 3-4 weeks in Beta. AoC is the only game that has held me for almost a year now - and I don't see myself losing interest anytime soon.  The Expansion will bring T4 raiding as well, and hopefully thats not to far off from us clearing out T3.

Dont listen to people - I like movies reviewers might of thought that sucked, and I like games people might complain about.  Everyone complains about something. Try it for yourself, make your own opinion.

Our guild on Set is very active, and we get apps every day.  http://prophetsofset.guildlaunch.com - People can raid any hour of the day on Set , by joining Pick up Group raids, or assisting w/ friends from raiding guilds.  The game is very much alive. I don't use XFIRE, and no one in my guild does either - most dont know what it is or dont use it - I asked in global several different times. Xfire means nothing. If you need any advice, or just wanna say "what's up!" -  /tell Valorstrike on Set.

Have a great day! :)

Reactivated! Back in Hyboria, once again. :) Something just keeps hauling me back into this game. Everybody should try it out, this game is constantly being updated. My favorite MMO atm.

Originally posted by Malickie

Originally posted by Jackdog

Originally posted by Malickie

Originally posted by Jackdog

 

2 hyperactive haters compared to how many hyperactive fanbois who have been swearing since release that the game is perfect and has no flaws ?

 

 

In all the time I've browsed this forum (since aoc's launch), I have never seen a person claim anything remotely similar to what you just said.

oh I think we all know better than that, if memory serves correct though at AoC's launch you were still a SWG fan. However there is at least one has never posted a critical thing about AoC or did anything except make excuses no matter what FC did since pre launch and several other posters who have done nothing but praise AoC since their first post. So yes, there is plenty of balance between troll and fanboy

Haven't been an SWG fan since 05', but yes there's a balance between those who like and don't like. That's actually a good thing IMO it tells you the truth lies somewhere in-between the opposing opinions. I have never once seen someone say ( who could be taken seriously) anything like that. There may have been a few extreme views posted slanted one way or the other, I still haven't seen a statement that AOC was flawless, maybe I missed it.

I have seen quite a few names (I won't say posters for various reasons). That have consistently downed this game never taking a middle ground on a single issue. That's the only thing that really bothers me TBH. Even Avery who is probably the biggest supporter here, takes a middle ground here and there.

I dont think Avery is disrespected by folks here. But the developer is. The game is. The result of what the company did to the 96% of customers who don't play anymore is disrespected by the customers, the reviewers, and the industry as a whole.

Of course we haven't seen a whole heck of a lot of responsibility taking by the leader of the AOC team or execution in the direction the majority of players would like the game to go. It just doesn't make sense the game would magically turn around with a free trial when new players are joining it and finding out a lot of what has been said about the game is exactly correct.

Clearly the game is on life support and that is also well substantiated by means other than X-fire which for some reason everybody suddenly believes doesn't work with most players while they play AOC. Alexa and google trends do not lie however. The trend is steady decline. The first free trials buffed that trend for a few weeks but the trend which has been in play since Jan-Feb 2009 is still in play and there is nothing the current team seems interested in doing which is going to change that.

The good news is some players are enjoying the game. The bad news is that they are in the extreme minority and it is unlikely that AOC will either be able to survive as a single player exprience as it will be come with massive server implosions, or as a game where the developers simply don't have a fucking clue which features and improvements to prioritize and which to hold off on. Whenever you bring some good suggestions, some commonly themed suggestions and suggestions which have been long standing and recurrent on their own suggestion forums, they claim they don't have the resources to implement those and that they were listening to the broad range of players.

Never mind they have ignored hundreds of threads with hundreds of posts in each one with suggestions on what to do with the game and where to go with it. This is a systemic problem because their leadership by Craig Morrison is incompetent.

Originally posted by Rdlaban

Called your bluff ey? 

"Jackdog - Talking shit since aug 97"

 

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/217994/page/1

and I quote

AoC population/activity/interest have now been on the rise over the last 4 weeks. Everyones beloved Xfire statistics show higher activitynumbers than in a very very long time, and the holiday season is kind of over?? www.xfire.com/games/aoc/Age_of_Conan_Hyborian_Adventures/. Also looking on other games like WoW, LotRO, EVE and other less important MMOs AoC's trend of +15-20% pr week seem to stand out as special.

Also other media like iGoogle show increased number of searches/interest for Age of Conan www.google.com/insights/search/#q=Age%20of%20Conan%2CLord%20of%20the%20Rings%20Online&date=today%201-m&cmpt=q

Also numerous posts in the AoC official forums report of returning players and increased activity. Based on this it looks for sure like the FC team has something good going. It is however hard to quantify the size of this increase. It would be interesting to hear (from AoC players in particular) what kind of trend they see in game.

like I said when the number are going up , the fanbois love XFire, when they are going down then XFire is rubbish, can't have it both ways gents