Now at level 26 I fully agree.  I just cannot take the grind anymore.  I LOVE the way the game looks and sounds.  But the horrible quest XP payout, and the constant grinding to level up is simply not well thought out to have a nice progression through the game.  I'm very let down at this point, and I simply cannot continue playing at this point.  This is the second year in a row i've been let down by a MMO game (Last year was Warhammer).

I wasn't so much depressed with the grind aspect (which I knew would be there) as I have been with the obscene amount of bots and spammers.

I know it's a brand-new game, but it's out of control if you don't /block them.

I have already cancelled my sub due to this, but if they show they're serious about getting rid of the bots before the 37 days are up, I'll resub.

....

've played every MMO and with each new one,  I find I'm quitting them faster than the one before it. I'm really not getting my hopes up for SWTOR and I'm a HUGE Bioware fanboy. I mean, I'm buying collector's editions of both Dragon Age and Mass Effect 2 on both PC and 360.

On topic though, I also quit playing Aion at level 27 as a Spiritmaster. I never played this class in beta and it was pretty much my last choice to play as in the retail release. I really was enjoying my time with the game until I had to grind 3 hours for a spirit drop. Yeah, I've had my share of this experience (EQ1). I don't know what happened but I just got bored of the game. MMO gamers are a fickle bunch indeed.

Honestly, someone needs to kick this genre in the balls and step outside the box. I know companies see dollar signs in their eyes and they take the easy approach but Fallen Earth is the only MMO I'm subscribed to simply because it's not more of the same.

I find that when you play a certain genre alot, like mmos, there is only one thing that is truly important when getting into a new game. It must have more of what we liked in previous mmos and less of what we didnt. besides, innovation is going on all the time. doesnt always work, but its there. Age of Conan, Fallen Earth and a few others. You cant complain about games that try to do certain things different. some suck but some dont. Getting all the eggs in one basket is hard.

Same feeling here... lack of dungeons, repetitive grindy quests... ho-hum.... I love my enchanter tho. The only fun part of the game past 25 is pvp and other than that is boring as hell. PvP can be fun if the rifts open and you go to the otherside and gank someone or get ganked.. that's the only saving grace of this game. I wish the rifts open more often instead of like once every 2 hours and only a few minutes. The only problem is true PVP is only sporadic.. most of the time people are bunched safely in huge groups and roaming around ganking soloers or rift camping.

Cancelled my pre-order in OB, never even got to lvl 10 and I saw the game for what it was.  Logging on to a game to run errands, awesome, I do that in RL.  Like today in MMORL:  I started off by going to the bank to drop off X amount of dollars, then I hit up the grocery store and got X amount of food and Y amount of drink.  I then dropped my supplies off to the quest giver, (girlfriend), who in return gave me good XP I guess you could say.  I then realized I forgot to put gas in my mount, (car), and to refill my energy, (Red Bull), so I drove up to the gas station and got X amount of gas along with Y amount of energy regen.  As I was walking back to my mount I almost got into some PvP action with another  MMORL player of different race.  Fortunately, we were able to set aside our differences when we realized we were of the same faction, (he works the same career field that I do).  Best thing about it is MMORL is F2P!

Originally posted by hybridfury

Cancelled my pre-order in OB, never even got to lvl 10 and I saw the game for what it was.  Logging on to a game to run errands, awesome, I do that in RL.  Like today in MMORL:  I started off by going to the bank to drop off X amount of dollars, then I hit up the grocery store and got X amount of food and Y amount of drink.  I then dropped my supplies off to the quest giver, (girlfriend), who in return gave me good XP I guess you could say.  I then realized I forgot to put gas in my mount, (car), and to refill my energy, (Red Bull), so I drove up to the gas station and got X amount of gas along with Y amount of energy regen.  As I was walking back to my mount I almost got into some PvP action with another  MMORL player of different race.  Fortunately, we were able to set aside our differences when we realized we were of the same faction, (he works the same career field that I do).  Best thing about it is MMORL is F2P!

HA! You think Real life is free to play?

Wow - the trolls just keep getting better and better... hilarious!!!

Anyways you got to level 10 - you know absolutely nothing about the game. That's like saying "I played WoW - I got to level 6 and I knowz all"... level 10 takes what... 2-3 hours? You didn't even touch the game - yet your coming here acting like an expert.

One thing I WILL agree with you abou though.. is the questing is the same ole standard "run of the mill". Nothing intuitive here... but neither does LOTRO, WoW, EQ, AoC, etc, etc. They ALL have this type of quest system. Maybe... JUST MAYBE... you don't like themepark based MMOs? 

Originally posted by hybridfury

Cancelled my pre-order in OB, never even got to lvl 10 and I saw the game for what it was.  Logging on to a game to run errands, awesome, I do that in RL.  Like today in MMORL:  I started off by going to the bank to drop off X amount of dollars, then I hit up the grocery store and got X amount of food and Y amount of drink.  I then dropped my supplies off to the quest giver, (girlfriend), who in return gave me good XP I guess you could say.  I then realized I forgot to put gas in my mount, (car), and to refill my energy, (Red Bull), so I drove up to the gas station and got X amount of gas along with Y amount of energy regen.  As I was walking back to my mount I almost got into some PvP action with another  MMORL player of different race.  Fortunately, we were able to set aside our differences when we realized we were of the same faction, (he works the same career field that I do).  Best thing about it is MMORL is F2P!

LMAO, thats funny as hell.  I did get beyond level 10 but just didn't care for the game.

Originally posted by hybridfury

Cancelled my pre-order in OB, never even got to lvl 10 and I saw the game for what it was.  Logging on to a game to run errands, awesome, I do that in RL.  Like today in MMORL:  I started off by going to the bank to drop off X amount of dollars, then I hit up the grocery store and got X amount of food and Y amount of drink.  I then dropped my supplies off to the quest giver, (girlfriend), who in return gave me good XP I guess you could say.  I then realized I forgot to put gas in my mount, (car), and to refill my energy, (Red Bull), so I drove up to the gas station and got X amount of gas along with Y amount of energy regen.  As I was walking back to my mount I almost got into some PvP action with another  MMORL player of different race.  Fortunately, we were able to set aside our differences when we realized we were of the same faction, (he works the same career field that I do).  Best thing about it is MMORL is F2P!

It must be nice having 50 bucks to throw away like that on a product you know nothing about. What you described (the quest system, that seems to be your problem with it) could have easily been made clear just by talking to anyone on any Aion forum. They could have filled you in on that. Yet you just forked over 50 bucks, didnt like it and made a point to let us know about it. Well done.

I wish I had money to throw away. When I buy a game, I make sure I will like it, and after much thought and research (for about a month now) I bought it and Im having a blast.

Originally posted by Cammy

Originally posted by hybridfury

Cancelled my pre-order in OB, never even got to lvl 10 and I saw the game for what it was.  Logging on to a game to run errands, awesome, I do that in RL.  Like today in MMORL:  I started off by going to the bank to drop off X amount of dollars, then I hit up the grocery store and got X amount of food and Y amount of drink.  I then dropped my supplies off to the quest giver, (girlfriend), who in return gave me good XP I guess you could say.  I then realized I forgot to put gas in my mount, (car), and to refill my energy, (Red Bull), so I drove up to the gas station and got X amount of gas along with Y amount of energy regen.  As I was walking back to my mount I almost got into some PvP action with another  MMORL player of different race.  Fortunately, we were able to set aside our differences when we realized we were of the same faction, (he works the same career field that I do).  Best thing about it is MMORL is F2P!

 

HA! You think Real life is free to play?

Wow - the trolls just keep getting better and better... hilarious!!!

 

Anyways you got to level 10 - you know absolutely nothing about the game. That's like saying "I played WoW - I got to level 6 and I knowz all"... level 10 takes what... 2-3 hours? You didn't even touch the game - yet your coming here acting like an expert.

 

One thing I WILL agree with you abou though.. is the questing is the same ole standard "run of the mill". Nothing intuitive here... but neither does LOTRO, WoW, EQ, AoC, etc, etc. They ALL have this type of quest system. Maybe... JUST MAYBE... you don't like themepark based MMOs? 

If a game isn't fun from the begining, why would you keep playing past level 10? When I started with wow it was instant fun. In my mind Aion doesn't offer anything new that I can't get from playing wow. So I just don't see the point. I really tried giving it a chance, and I almost fooled myself. Lesson learned, I will play wow. I won't stop trying other games, but I won't actually kid myself that anything will be better than wow.

Originally posted by Cammy

Originally posted by hybridfury

Cancelled my pre-order in OB, never even got to lvl 10 and I saw the game for what it was.  Logging on to a game to run errands, awesome, I do that in RL.  Like today in MMORL:  I started off by going to the bank to drop off X amount of dollars, then I hit up the grocery store and got X amount of food and Y amount of drink.  I then dropped my supplies off to the quest giver, (girlfriend), who in return gave me good XP I guess you could say.  I then realized I forgot to put gas in my mount, (car), and to refill my energy, (Red Bull), so I drove up to the gas station and got X amount of gas along with Y amount of energy regen.  As I was walking back to my mount I almost got into some PvP action with another  MMORL player of different race.  Fortunately, we were able to set aside our differences when we realized we were of the same faction, (he works the same career field that I do).  Best thing about it is MMORL is F2P!

 

HA! You think Real life is free to play?

Wow - the trolls just keep getting better and better... hilarious!!!

 

Anyways you got to level 10 - you know absolutely nothing about the game. That's like saying "I played WoW - I got to level 6 and I knowz all"... level 10 takes what... 2-3 hours? You didn't even touch the game - yet your coming here acting like an expert.

 

One thing I WILL agree with you abou though.. is the questing is the same ole standard "run of the mill". Nothing intuitive here... but neither does LOTRO, WoW, EQ, AoC, etc, etc. They ALL have this type of quest system. Maybe... JUST MAYBE... you don't like themepark based MMOs? 

Yes, that's right I got to about lvl 10 in your shit game and got bored, what of it?  Frankly I'm quite surprised in this 16 page thread of how dull and boring Aion is that the average lvl of a person getting bored is 20-25, I would have thought it much earlier on.  The whole fad of grinding to get to the end game of awesomeness is dying or has already died.  If your making a game that's focusing on nothing but end game and everything up to that point is just shit then that just isn't gonna cut it these days, it's been done over and over and over.  Companies need to get real and come up with something a bit more innovative and perhaps start using their fucking brains instead of putting an MMO together compromised of bits and pieces of other MMO's.  Also, in case you couldn't catch the sarcasm of my prior post, I'll clarify, it was SARCASM.

Edit here:  That's awesome you named some other games with similar quest systems.  You listed a bunch of games that were out way before Aion so I'm unsure what your point is other than Aion does nothing new except throw in some wings, weeeeee!

Originally posted by Zoulz

Originally posted by Cammy

Originally posted by hybridfury

Cancelled my pre-order in OB, never even got to lvl 10 and I saw the game for what it was.  Logging on to a game to run errands, awesome, I do that in RL.  Like today in MMORL:  I started off by going to the bank to drop off X amount of dollars, then I hit up the grocery store and got X amount of food and Y amount of drink.  I then dropped my supplies off to the quest giver, (girlfriend), who in return gave me good XP I guess you could say.  I then realized I forgot to put gas in my mount, (car), and to refill my energy, (Red Bull), so I drove up to the gas station and got X amount of gas along with Y amount of energy regen.  As I was walking back to my mount I almost got into some PvP action with another  MMORL player of different race.  Fortunately, we were able to set aside our differences when we realized we were of the same faction, (he works the same career field that I do).  Best thing about it is MMORL is F2P!

 

HA! You think Real life is free to play?

Wow - the trolls just keep getting better and better... hilarious!!!

 

Anyways you got to level 10 - you know absolutely nothing about the game. That's like saying "I played WoW - I got to level 6 and I knowz all"... level 10 takes what... 2-3 hours? You didn't even touch the game - yet your coming here acting like an expert.

 

One thing I WILL agree with you abou though.. is the questing is the same ole standard "run of the mill". Nothing intuitive here... but neither does LOTRO, WoW, EQ, AoC, etc, etc. They ALL have this type of quest system. Maybe... JUST MAYBE... you don't like themepark based MMOs? 

If a game isn't fun from the begining, why would you keep playing past level 10? When I started with wow it was instant fun. In my mind Aion doesn't offer anything new that I can't get from playing wow. So I just don't see the point. I really tried giving it a chance, and I almost fooled myself. Lesson learned, I will play wow. I won't stop trying other games, but I won't actually kid myself that anything will be better than wow.

Then its super simple... go play WoW?

Really not all that hard... I played WoW for years - and I personally think its completely rubbish now (and was once an absolutely great game IMO)..

Aion is very different.. but if you're stuck in the mindset that nothing will be better than WoW - than simply nothing will. You had fun at level 6 in WoW? I'd love to ask what class you were that showed so much awesome. Lvl 1-10 in Aion is very similar to 1-10 in WoW. Both aren't all that enjoyable IMO... you will only get back what you give.... and if you give nothing don't expect to get anything back

Originally posted by Toquio3

Originally posted by hybridfury

Cancelled my pre-order in OB, never even got to lvl 10 and I saw the game for what it was.  Logging on to a game to run errands, awesome, I do that in RL.  Like today in MMORL:  I started off by going to the bank to drop off X amount of dollars, then I hit up the grocery store and got X amount of food and Y amount of drink.  I then dropped my supplies off to the quest giver, (girlfriend), who in return gave me good XP I guess you could say.  I then realized I forgot to put gas in my mount, (car), and to refill my energy, (Red Bull), so I drove up to the gas station and got X amount of gas along with Y amount of energy regen.  As I was walking back to my mount I almost got into some PvP action with another  MMORL player of different race.  Fortunately, we were able to set aside our differences when we realized we were of the same faction, (he works the same career field that I do).  Best thing about it is MMORL is F2P!

 

It must be nice having 50 bucks to throw away like that on a product you know nothing about. What you described (the quest system, that seems to be your problem with it) could have easily been made clear just by talking to anyone on any Aion forum. They could have filled you in on that. Yet you just forked over 50 bucks, didnt like it and made a point to let us know about it. Well done.

I wish I had money to throw away. When I buy a game, I make sure I will like it, and after much thought and research (for about a month now) I bought it and Im having a blast.

Dude?  Can you read?  The first line of my rant says I cancelled my pre-order, I didn't pay shit for that game.
 

Originally posted by hybridfury

Originally posted by Cammy

Originally posted by hybridfury

Cancelled my pre-order in OB, never even got to lvl 10 and I saw the game for what it was.  Logging on to a game to run errands, awesome, I do that in RL.  Like today in MMORL:  I started off by going to the bank to drop off X amount of dollars, then I hit up the grocery store and got X amount of food and Y amount of drink.  I then dropped my supplies off to the quest giver, (girlfriend), who in return gave me good XP I guess you could say.  I then realized I forgot to put gas in my mount, (car), and to refill my energy, (Red Bull), so I drove up to the gas station and got X amount of gas along with Y amount of energy regen.  As I was walking back to my mount I almost got into some PvP action with another  MMORL player of different race.  Fortunately, we were able to set aside our differences when we realized we were of the same faction, (he works the same career field that I do).  Best thing about it is MMORL is F2P!

 

HA! You think Real life is free to play?

Wow - the trolls just keep getting better and better... hilarious!!!

 

Anyways you got to level 10 - you know absolutely nothing about the game. That's like saying "I played WoW - I got to level 6 and I knowz all"... level 10 takes what... 2-3 hours? You didn't even touch the game - yet your coming here acting like an expert.

 

One thing I WILL agree with you abou though.. is the questing is the same ole standard "run of the mill". Nothing intuitive here... but neither does LOTRO, WoW, EQ, AoC, etc, etc. They ALL have this type of quest system. Maybe... JUST MAYBE... you don't like themepark based MMOs? 

 

Yes, that's right I got to about lvl 10 in your shit game and got bored, what of it?  Frankly I'm quite surprised in this 16 page thread of how dull and boring Aion is that the average lvl of a person getting bored is 20-25, I would have thought it much earlier on.  The whole fad of grinding to get to the end game of awesomeness is dying or has already died.  If your making a game that's focusing on nothing but end game and everything up to that point is just shit then that just isn't gonna cut it these days, it's been done over and over and over.  Companies need to get real and come up with something a bit more innovative and perhaps start using their fucking brains instead of putting an MMO together compromised of bits and pieces of other MMO's.  Also, in case you couldn't catch the sarcasm of my prior post, I'll clarify, it was SARCASM.

Like my boss always says... I hear lots of complaining but I don't see anything in the way of a solution.

What would you suggest in a game? Since your so brilliant and NCSoft sucks major balls.... tell us - what masterpiece would YOU do in order to make MMOs' different? Apart from whats already done?

Obviously - level based is COMPLETELY out of the question. So that leaves skill based... there's lots of skill based games out there (EVE Online, DarkFall, UO, etc)... if you like those - no one is stopping you from doing it.

BUT - to say "Aion is trash" then say "I'm going back to play WoW" is just laughable at best...

Originally posted by hybridfury

Originally posted by Toquio3

Originally posted by hybridfury

Cancelled my pre-order in OB, never even got to lvl 10 and I saw the game for what it was.  Logging on to a game to run errands, awesome, I do that in RL.  Like today in MMORL:  I started off by going to the bank to drop off X amount of dollars, then I hit up the grocery store and got X amount of food and Y amount of drink.  I then dropped my supplies off to the quest giver, (girlfriend), who in return gave me good XP I guess you could say.  I then realized I forgot to put gas in my mount, (car), and to refill my energy, (Red Bull), so I drove up to the gas station and got X amount of gas along with Y amount of energy regen.  As I was walking back to my mount I almost got into some PvP action with another  MMORL player of different race.  Fortunately, we were able to set aside our differences when we realized we were of the same faction, (he works the same career field that I do).  Best thing about it is MMORL is F2P!

 

It must be nice having 50 bucks to throw away like that on a product you know nothing about. What you described (the quest system, that seems to be your problem with it) could have easily been made clear just by talking to anyone on any Aion forum. They could have filled you in on that. Yet you just forked over 50 bucks, didnt like it and made a point to let us know about it. Well done.

I wish I had money to throw away. When I buy a game, I make sure I will like it, and after much thought and research (for about a month now) I bought it and Im having a blast.

Dude?  Can you read?  The first line of my rant says I cancelled my pre-order, I didn't pay shit for that game.
 

Ah I see, my bad then. But still, you were willing to do it. Apologies for coming on too hard nonetheless.

Originally posted by Cammy

Originally posted by Zoulz

Originally posted by Cammy

Originally posted by hybridfury

Cancelled my pre-order in OB, never even got to lvl 10 and I saw the game for what it was.  Logging on to a game to run errands, awesome, I do that in RL.  Like today in MMORL:  I started off by going to the bank to drop off X amount of dollars, then I hit up the grocery store and got X amount of food and Y amount of drink.  I then dropped my supplies off to the quest giver, (girlfriend), who in return gave me good XP I guess you could say.  I then realized I forgot to put gas in my mount, (car), and to refill my energy, (Red Bull), so I drove up to the gas station and got X amount of gas along with Y amount of energy regen.  As I was walking back to my mount I almost got into some PvP action with another  MMORL player of different race.  Fortunately, we were able to set aside our differences when we realized we were of the same faction, (he works the same career field that I do).  Best thing about it is MMORL is F2P!

 

HA! You think Real life is free to play?

Wow - the trolls just keep getting better and better... hilarious!!!

 

Anyways you got to level 10 - you know absolutely nothing about the game. That's like saying "I played WoW - I got to level 6 and I knowz all"... level 10 takes what... 2-3 hours? You didn't even touch the game - yet your coming here acting like an expert.

 

One thing I WILL agree with you abou though.. is the questing is the same ole standard "run of the mill". Nothing intuitive here... but neither does LOTRO, WoW, EQ, AoC, etc, etc. They ALL have this type of quest system. Maybe... JUST MAYBE... you don't like themepark based MMOs? 

If a game isn't fun from the begining, why would you keep playing past level 10? When I started with wow it was instant fun. In my mind Aion doesn't offer anything new that I can't get from playing wow. So I just don't see the point. I really tried giving it a chance, and I almost fooled myself. Lesson learned, I will play wow. I won't stop trying other games, but I won't actually kid myself that anything will be better than wow.

 

Then its super simple... go play WoW?

Really not all that hard... I played WoW for years - and I personally think its completely rubbish now (and was once an absolutely great game IMO)..

 

Aion is very different.. but if you're stuck in the mindset that nothing will be better than WoW - than simply nothing will. You had fun at level 6 in WoW? I'd love to ask what class you were that showed so much awesome. Lvl 1-10 in Aion is very similar to 1-10 in WoW. Both aren't all that enjoyable IMO... you will only get back what you give.... and if you give nothing don't expect to get anything back

I agree with you, I never was able to play WoW longer than a week or two and I tried a couple times a year for the past 2 or 3 years.  The boredom factor might not affect new players to the MMO genre as soon, but the people that have been around awhile are just tired of it and desire something new.

Originally posted by Cammy

Originally posted by hybridfury

Originally posted by Cammy

Originally posted by hybridfury

Cancelled my pre-order in OB, never even got to lvl 10 and I saw the game for what it was.  Logging on to a game to run errands, awesome, I do that in RL.  Like today in MMORL:  I started off by going to the bank to drop off X amount of dollars, then I hit up the grocery store and got X amount of food and Y amount of drink.  I then dropped my supplies off to the quest giver, (girlfriend), who in return gave me good XP I guess you could say.  I then realized I forgot to put gas in my mount, (car), and to refill my energy, (Red Bull), so I drove up to the gas station and got X amount of gas along with Y amount of energy regen.  As I was walking back to my mount I almost got into some PvP action with another  MMORL player of different race.  Fortunately, we were able to set aside our differences when we realized we were of the same faction, (he works the same career field that I do).  Best thing about it is MMORL is F2P!

 

HA! You think Real life is free to play?

Wow - the trolls just keep getting better and better... hilarious!!!

 

Anyways you got to level 10 - you know absolutely nothing about the game. That's like saying "I played WoW - I got to level 6 and I knowz all"... level 10 takes what... 2-3 hours? You didn't even touch the game - yet your coming here acting like an expert.

 

One thing I WILL agree with you abou though.. is the questing is the same ole standard "run of the mill". Nothing intuitive here... but neither does LOTRO, WoW, EQ, AoC, etc, etc. They ALL have this type of quest system. Maybe... JUST MAYBE... you don't like themepark based MMOs? 

 

Yes, that's right I got to about lvl 10 in your shit game and got bored, what of it?  Frankly I'm quite surprised in this 16 page thread of how dull and boring Aion is that the average lvl of a person getting bored is 20-25, I would have thought it much earlier on.  The whole fad of grinding to get to the end game of awesomeness is dying or has already died.  If your making a game that's focusing on nothing but end game and everything up to that point is just shit then that just isn't gonna cut it these days, it's been done over and over and over.  Companies need to get real and come up with something a bit more innovative and perhaps start using their fucking brains instead of putting an MMO together compromised of bits and pieces of other MMO's.  Also, in case you couldn't catch the sarcasm of my prior post, I'll clarify, it was SARCASM.

 

Like my boss always says... I hear lots of complaining but I don't see anything in the way of a solution.

What would you suggest in a game? Since your so brilliant and NCSoft sucks major balls.... tell us - what masterpiece would YOU do in order to make MMOs' different? Apart from whats already done?

Obviously - level based is COMPLETELY out of the question. So that leaves skill based... there's lots of skill based games out there (EVE Online, DarkFall, UO, etc)... if you like those - no one is stopping you from doing it.

BUT - to say "Aion is trash" then say "I'm going back to play WoW" is just laughable at best...

Never once did I say I was brilliant nor that I had the answers that people were looking for, but it's pretty obvious that in life things get old after repetition and need to be altered or changed entirely.  However the fact is it's not happening in this genre and it's turned into nothing more than a copy fest by companies and people that have been around since EQ, UO, DAOC etc.. are just tired of it.  Some of you can say that well maybe we don't like the genre anymore or we have outgrown it.  While maybe that's true for some, I would venture to say that it's not for most as we are here everyday waiting for that something new and we spend our spare time searching for something new.  It's what we desire and what we deserve. 

Ultimately It's up to those in charge that are "qualified" to make those decisions and to use their brains and supposed talent to think up something new and not take the easy route and just copy what's already been done.

Edit here:  I don't recall nor do I see anywhere that I mentioned WoW in any of my posts other than in my sig as a "have played", but here ya go.  I don't play WoW and in the past since it's release I think I have maybe racked up a total of 30 hours of play time and that's probably on the high side.  It's as much of a bore to me as Aion is.

Originally posted by Cammy

 

Like my boss always says... I hear lots of complaining but I don't see anything in the way of a solution.

What would you suggest in a game? Since your so brilliant and NCSoft sucks major balls.... tell us - what masterpiece would YOU do in order to make MMOs' different? Apart from whats already done?

Obviously - level based is COMPLETELY out of the question. So that leaves skill based... there's lots of skill based games out there (EVE Online, DarkFall, UO, etc)... if you like those - no one is stopping you from doing it.

BUT - to say "Aion is trash" then say "I'm going back to play WoW" is just laughable at best...

Gonna double post here, mmm Kay!  A good start to your question would be to actually make a game that is fun all the way through and not just about racing/grinding to so called end game before it's "fun".  That and it seems the risk vs reward factor has sort of gone out the window with new MMO's especially while your lvling up.

Originally posted by Cammy

Originally posted by Zoulz

Originally posted by Cammy

Originally posted by hybridfury

Cancelled my pre-order in OB, never even got to lvl 10 and I saw the game for what it was.  Logging on to a game to run errands, awesome, I do that in RL.  Like today in MMORL:  I started off by going to the bank to drop off X amount of dollars, then I hit up the grocery store and got X amount of food and Y amount of drink.  I then dropped my supplies off to the quest giver, (girlfriend), who in return gave me good XP I guess you could say.  I then realized I forgot to put gas in my mount, (car), and to refill my energy, (Red Bull), so I drove up to the gas station and got X amount of gas along with Y amount of energy regen.  As I was walking back to my mount I almost got into some PvP action with another  MMORL player of different race.  Fortunately, we were able to set aside our differences when we realized we were of the same faction, (he works the same career field that I do).  Best thing about it is MMORL is F2P!

 

HA! You think Real life is free to play?

Wow - the trolls just keep getting better and better... hilarious!!!

 

Anyways you got to level 10 - you know absolutely nothing about the game. That's like saying "I played WoW - I got to level 6 and I knowz all"... level 10 takes what... 2-3 hours? You didn't even touch the game - yet your coming here acting like an expert.

 

One thing I WILL agree with you abou though.. is the questing is the same ole standard "run of the mill". Nothing intuitive here... but neither does LOTRO, WoW, EQ, AoC, etc, etc. They ALL have this type of quest system. Maybe... JUST MAYBE... you don't like themepark based MMOs? 

If a game isn't fun from the begining, why would you keep playing past level 10? When I started with wow it was instant fun. In my mind Aion doesn't offer anything new that I can't get from playing wow. So I just don't see the point. I really tried giving it a chance, and I almost fooled myself. Lesson learned, I will play wow. I won't stop trying other games, but I won't actually kid myself that anything will be better than wow.

 

Then its super simple... go play WoW?

Really not all that hard... I played WoW for years - and I personally think its completely rubbish now (and was once an absolutely great game IMO)..

 

Aion is very different.. but if you're stuck in the mindset that nothing will be better than WoW - than simply nothing will. You had fun at level 6 in WoW? I'd love to ask what class you were that showed so much awesome. Lvl 1-10 in Aion is very similar to 1-10 in WoW. Both aren't all that enjoyable IMO... you will only get back what you give.... and if you give nothing don't expect to get anything back

I'm already playing wow. So don't worry about that. And i'm not stuck in a mindset. I'm not brainwashed, it's just my opinion. Classes in wow really don't matter that much in the lower levels, but if you want to know I mostly play the warrior class. I love the progressive character development and team-based aspects of wow. The progressive advancement is evident even from the start. First you wear grey gear, then get whites, greens, blues etc etc. It's very cleverly done. You can start doing dungeons around level 20 which gives you a first real taste of how to work in a team.

Every aspect is tailored to be fun, rather than anything else. Remove any elements that might incur frustration or tedium. No company I know of is better at this than Blizzard. But some are starting to learn, like Valve with Left 4 dead. Also totally focused on gam eplay and fun.