I understand Gorgos is the RP server. But it is the unofficial RP server, that’s fine RP communites often have to do that. But now I find out it is the unofficial RP server selected by NSoft? What is going on there, a server selected by Nsoft is surely an official one?

Also I understand that this is the English and non English server, what is that about, they have lumped Rpers in with non English speakers?

makes sense.

let ppl RP in their own language.

Gets better and better. Im amazed at what im seeing here since release. I realize that one has to sift through the crap but even after that its pretty apparent that NCsoft has taken what could have been a great launch and totally screwed it up. Its one nightmare after another.

Originally posted by Scot

I understand Gorgos is the RP server. But it is the unofficial RP server, that’s fine RP communites often have to do that. But now I find out it is the unofficial RP server selected by NSoft? What is going on there, a server selected by Nsoft is surely an official one?

Also I understand that this is the English and non English server, what is that about, they have lumped Rpers in with non English speakers?

They just don't want to officially label it an "RP" server.  Subs tend to shy away from a server with an RP label next to it.  Basically they're saying if you want to RP here's your best bet, but nobody is going to force you to RP on this server.

I kinda like the idea actually...sort of a poor man's age limit server.   RP servers tend to have a more mature population.

And by not labeling it as RP it keeps all the "L33T ZOMG LETZ PWN SOM GHEY RPers LAWL" douchenozzles off the server.

I understand the unofficial/official situation, makes some sense now. But dumping everyone who wants to RP on one server, regardless of language? That seems a bit short sighted. RPers chat more than anyone else, I can only hope that English has been chossen as the unofficial language of the official/unofficial RP server.

Originally posted by MyDcmbr81

And by not labeling it as RP it keeps all the "L33T ZOMG LETZ PWN SOM GHEY RPers LAWL" douchenozzles off the server.

Right....

Look, the only sensible reason they can have for not making it an official RP server, is not having to officially enforce the RP ruleset, which would require a lot of resources (On an MMO scale anyway).

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Originally posted by BizkitNL

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Originally posted by MyDcmbr81

And by not labeling it as RP it keeps all the "L33T ZOMG LETZ PWN SOM GHEY RPers LAWL" douchenozzles off the server.

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Right....
Look, the only sensible reason they can have for not making it an official RP server, is not having to officially enforce the RP ruleset, which would require a lot of resources (On an MMO scale anyway).

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Sense.

You make it.

Expect to be flamed.

The server was never selected by NCsoft as an RP one. Gorgos was voted by the community to be the unofficial RP server.

To notify the player-base, NCsoft simply posted it on the official site for all to see, but it was the community's choice, NCsoft haven't got anything to do with this.

I like how NCsoft listens and makes little changes whether it takes actual code changes or not.  Just today when I made a new character I noticed that many Asmod quests had had their quest texts changed to be spoken in a more English fashion as well as the NPCs standing around and waiting for your help when you see your past / future in the Ascension area speaking in a more expected English fashion and having more diverse things to say.  Also the sprigs have voices now.  Apologies for the grammar and rambling, I be tired and re-reading things is no longer helping.

I wish more games would have official RP servers. I don't get why some people claim they don't work, I'm hard-pressed to believe they have first-hand experience beyond a single login.

Unfortunately, most companies do not think having RP servers is worth the hassle.

Originally posted by grandpagamer

Gets better and better. Im amazed at what im seeing here since release. I realize that one has to sift through the crap but even after that its pretty apparent that NCsoft has taken what could have been a great launch and totally screwed it up. Its one nightmare after another.

You don't even play the game.  You obviosuly aren't following them on twitter or surfing the official boards.  All you see is what people complain about on the MMORPG forums...  Most people won't take the time to write something up unless it's a complaint...

So all you're reading is maybe 100 dissatisfied individuals out of a player base in excess of 400k that's satisfied.  I fail to see how the game is presumed a failing nightmare.  NCSoft is doing a lot to fix and comabt all issues that surface.  Server wait times are practically non existent anymore.

So, the Q's were a lie? The gold spammers and bots are a lie? The banning of innocents is a lie? And mixed language RP server is a lie?  Doesnt matter to me as your right, I dont play it. I saw enough in CB. But as said, with nearly a year into Asian release they have made a lot of mistakes that should  have been avoided.

Originally posted by grandpagamer

So, the Q's were a lie? The gold spammers and bots are a lie? The banning of innocents is a lie? And mixed language RP server is a lie?  Doesnt matter to me as your right, I dont play it. I saw enough in CB. But as said, with nearly a year into Asian release they have made a lot of mistakes that should  have been avoided.

To be fair though besides the queue issue I wouldn't say anything was a "nightmare".  Hell, the queue thing wasn't even for me but just because I didn't have to wait hours to play doesn't mean i'm going to dismiss it.  The other issues happen in mmorpgs when they release regardless if it released somewhere else first.

Does it make it right? No, but unless the team behind LotR create another game I am convinced at this point you can expect the launch of a game to simply be fucked up.  Some not too bad and others absolute train wrecks but these companies make the same mistakes and overlook the same things time and time again.

It's ridiculous but what can you do?  Best thing is to just stay the hell away from these games for the first 1-3 months unless you're willing to accept that it will take the company in general and management approximately that long to remove their heads from their asses.

These companies simply refuse to be proactive and are only reactive.  They aren't alone, it can be seen in other industries as well but it's still mind numbing.

This launch was average at best to sub par at worst.  Not an absolute mess but nothing to brag about either from what I have seen and experienced.

EDIT:   ...and they should have made an rp sever or two.  Not my cup of tea but there are those that enjoy it.  I really don't see what the harm would have been in having at least 1-2 of those but that's just my opinion. I know this doesn't apply to your post but figured I should comment on something at least somehow related to the op so I'm not accused of being a derailment advocate :P

Originally posted by grandpagamer

So, the Q's were a lie? The gold spammers and bots are a lie? The banning of innocents is a lie? And mixed language RP server is a lie?  Doesnt matter to me as your right, I dont play it. I saw enough in CB. But as said, with nearly a year into Asian release they have made a lot of mistakes that should  have been avoided.

Yea, this one's a lie/rumor call it what you will. :)

NCsoft never named, selected, or "mixed" the community on the RP servers. Those were chosen by the community (via voting), for the community, devs had nothing to do with it.

Originally posted by Wickedjelly

Originally posted by grandpagamer

So, the Q's were a lie? The gold spammers and bots are a lie? The banning of innocents is a lie? And mixed language RP server is a lie?  Doesnt matter to me as your right, I dont play it. I saw enough in CB. But as said, with nearly a year into Asian release they have made a lot of mistakes that should  have been avoided.

 

To be fair though besides the queue issue I wouldn't say anything was a "nightmare".  Hell, the queue thing wasn't even for me but just because I didn't have to wait hours to play doesn't mean i'm going to dismiss it.  The other issues happen in mmorpgs when they release regardless if it released somewhere else first.

Does it make it right? No, but unless the team behind LotR create another game I am convinced at this point you can expect the launch of a game to simply be fucked up.  Some not too bad and others absolute train wrecks but these companies make the same mistakes and overlook the same things time and time again.

It's ridiculous but what can you do?  Best thing is to just stay the hell away from these games for the first 1-3 months unless you're willing to accept that it will take the company in general and management approximately that long to remove their heads from their asses.

These companies simply refuse to be proactive and are only reactive.  They aren't alone, it can be seen in other industries as well but it's still mind numbing.

This launch was average at best to sub par at worst.  Not an absolute mess but nothing to brag about either from what I have seen and experienced.

EDIT:   ...and they should have made an rp sever or two.  Not my cup of tea but there are those that enjoy it.  I really don't see what the harm would have been in having at least 1-2 of those but that's just my opinion. I know this doesn't apply to your post but figured I should comment on something at least somehow related to the op so I'm not accused of being a derailment advocate :P

Agreed one or two RP servers would hurt nothing. RP servers do pretty well in fantasy games.  I know AB in EQ2 has a very good population and Landroval in LOTRO, while the "unofficial RP server" is also one of the better population servers.  Official or unofficial, a mixed language server of any kind is a mistake.

Originally posted by grandpagamer

Gets better and better. Im amazed at what im seeing here since release. I realize that one has to sift through the crap but even after that its pretty apparent that NCsoft has taken what could have been a great launch and totally screwed it up. Its one nightmare after another.

lol -- chill with the drama queen crap guy.  This game is the farthest thing from a nightmare launch as it gets.  You dont like the game, but you dont need to lie about it.  Find a message board that relates to something you enjoy and stop making yourself look like a fool. 

Originally posted by Tyvolus89

Originally posted by grandpagamer

Gets better and better. Im amazed at what im seeing here since release. I realize that one has to sift through the crap but even after that its pretty apparent that NCsoft has taken what could have been a great launch and totally screwed it up. Its one nightmare after another.

 

lol -- chill with the drama queen crap guy.  This game is the farthest thing from a nightmare launch as it gets.  You dont like the game, but you dont need to lie about it.  Find a message board that relates to something you enjoy and stop making yourself look like a fool. 

Lets see, Q's lasting for hours, bots and gold spammers up the ass and what is NCsofts solution? Ban legit players. Keep telling yourself how cool it is while you play on a RP server where nobody speaks the same language.

Originally posted by grandpagamer

Originally posted by Tyvolus89

Originally posted by grandpagamer

Gets better and better. Im amazed at what im seeing here since release. I realize that one has to sift through the crap but even after that its pretty apparent that NCsoft has taken what could have been a great launch and totally screwed it up. Its one nightmare after another.

 

lol -- chill with the drama queen crap guy.  This game is the farthest thing from a nightmare launch as it gets.  You dont like the game, but you dont need to lie about it.  Find a message board that relates to something you enjoy and stop making yourself look like a fool. 

Lets see, Q's lasting for hours, bots and gold spammers up the ass and what is NCsofts solution? Ban legit players. Keep telling yourself how cool it is while you play on a RP server where nobody speaks the same language.

Someone seems a bit bitter for some reason.  I don't play on the RP server and I honestly have still never encountered a que, though maybe I've just been lucky.  Although the gold spamming is annoying, honestly it's the same as any other newer MMO I've played. And while this may not be the game for everybody, or even for me, I would say its a far cry from a nightmare.

Is gold spamming bad on RP server?

Usually it is a lot less.