Nice find! I hope that means that space combat will be around at launch. The fact that they are already preparing a page with information about it is a good sign.

Originally posted by Lateris

 

At least Eve doesn't have Jar Jar Binks.

 

 

Not sure what's worse to be honest, Jar Jar Binks, or Starfield screen saver 2.0.

I wonder if it would be technologically feasible to make a hybrid of EVE/TIE Fighter where the larger capital ships controlled like EVE i.e more tactically and slower, and the smaller ships like X-Wings would be manned by players in a twitch dog fight type gameplay...that way the tactical lovers could command fleets and when they ordered the X-Wings or TIEs to dispatch, they were manned by actual players instead of generic AI. Probably some flaws in doing it that way, but seems like kind of a cool idea at the time. :)

Originally posted by xphil3

I wonder if it would be technologically feasible to make a hybrid of EVE/TIE Fighter where the larger capital ships controlled like EVE i.e more tactically and slower, and the smaller ships like X-Wings would be manned by players in a twitch dog fight type gameplay...that way the tactical lovers could command fleets and when they ordered the X-Wings or TIEs to dispatch, they were manned by actual players instead of generic AI. Probably some flaws in doing it that way, but seems like kind of a cool idea at the time. :)

I always liked the idea of multi passanger controlled ships. IE large ship 10 turrets, 10 players to gun, 1 to control the ship. I could see massive guild faction battles taking place in space, fleets of small and large ships fighting in large scale battles. That's pretty much what I want, considering how visual the ground terrain is, I could only imagine the intensity of twitch based space combat and how well it would look visually. My next concern would be ship customizations.

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Originally posted by xphil3
I wonder if it would be technologically feasible to make a hybrid of EVE/TIE Fighter where the larger capital ships controlled like EVE i.e more tactically and slower, and the smaller ships like X-Wings would be manned by players in a twitch dog fight type gameplay...that way the tactical lovers could command fleets and when they ordered the X-Wings or TIEs to dispatch, they were manned by actual players instead of generic AI. Probably some flaws in doing it that way, but seems like kind of a cool idea at the time. :)

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This game you speak of is already in the works. It's called Black Prophecy. You should check it out.

Awesome, this may nullify the argument that STO is better than TOR, now that it both ground and space combat.

Originally posted by stillkillin

no one wants an action game in an mmoRPG

look at what it did to swg all jtls did was allow the damn action twich arcade gamers in and they are the ones who whined to $OE about how swg needed to be more like wow.

oh and hey look at how well a wow star wars has done with the nge.

point is bioware needs to take notes and see what gamers really want.

Ok we've got to fix some of this

"no one wants an action game in an mmoRPG" you mean you don't want it.

"look at what it did to swg all jtl did was allow the damn action twich arcade gamers in and they are the ones who whined to SOE about how swg needed to be more like wow." proof?

"oh and hey look at how well a wow star wars has done with the nge" oh as opposed to how well it was doing before the NGE news flash had the pre cu game been doing well in the first place the changes would not have been made.

"point is bioware needs to take notes and see what gamers really want."  Let's be honest here since we are all gamers and Bioware has done fine by it's fans (me included) in the past, you don't mean what gamers want you mean what disgruntled swg vet's want  as evidenced by your very next post.

  When it comes to trusting an opinion about gaming I'm sorry I'll stick to whatever it is that Bioware is deciding to do as opposed to being led to believe that you disgruntled vet's give two shits about what anyone else wants and that it isn't about trying to pressure them into recreating pre CU SWG in whatever form you all decide.

Originally posted by jaxsundane

Originally posted by stillkillin

no one wants an action game in an mmoRPG

look at what it did to swg all jtls did was allow the damn action twich arcade gamers in and they are the ones who whined to $OE about how swg needed to be more like wow.

oh and hey look at how well a wow star wars has done with the nge.

point is bioware needs to take notes and see what gamers really want.

 

Ok we've got to fix some of this

"no one wants an action game in an mmoRPG" you mean you don't want it.

"look at what it did to swg all jtl did was allow the damn action twich arcade gamers in and they are the ones who whined to SOE about how swg needed to be more like wow." proof?

"oh and hey look at how well a wow star wars has done with the nge" oh as opposed to how well it was doing before the NGE news flash had the pre cu game been doing well in the first place the changes would not have been made.

"point is bioware needs to take notes and see what gamers really want."  Let's be honest here since we are all gamers and Bioware has done fine by it's fans (me included) in the past, you don't mean what gamers want you mean what disgruntled swg vet's want  as evidenced by your very next post.

  When it comes to trusting an opinion about gaming I'm sorry I'll stick to whatever it is that Bioware is deciding to do as opposed to being led to believe that you disgruntled vet's give two shits about what anyone else wants and that it isn't about trying to pressure them into recreating pre CU SWG in whatever form you all decide.

It's actually not worthy trying to explain, you're best off just shrugging it off, Stillkillin doesn't understand logic and probably never will. All you have to know is he has "200K" friends ready to boycott ToR, he thinks he has the power to change ToR in to Pre-cu or has the power to make them put up a Pre-cu server, he also claims he is the reason SoE is "dying". It gets really retarded, I could go on, but at this point, I have accepted the fact that some mental institution has given its patients computers.

Originally posted by Malickie

Originally posted by stillkillin

no one wants an action game in an mmoRPG

look at what it did to swg all jtls did was allow the damn action twich arcade gamers in and they are the ones who whined to $OE about how swg needed to be more like wow.

oh and hey look at how well a wow star wars has done with the nge.

point is bioware needs to take notes and see what gamers really want.

 

How is it you have become the universal ambassador for everyone? Please refrain from speaking for others in the future.

Great find you have there OP! I never got into JTL and kinda regret that. I wouldn't mind giving space a shot this time around.

Stillkillin is a troll and his posts should be ignored by anyone with half a brain. He posts the same things over and over again every week, maybe the logic there is that repetition makes your opinion universal. That logic fails. Hard.

Originally posted by greed0104

Originally posted by jaxsundane

Originally posted by stillkillin

no one wants an action game in an mmoRPG

look at what it did to swg all jtls did was allow the damn action twich arcade gamers in and they are the ones who whined to $OE about how swg needed to be more like wow.

oh and hey look at how well a wow star wars has done with the nge.

point is bioware needs to take notes and see what gamers really want.

 

Ok we've got to fix some of this

"no one wants an action game in an mmoRPG" you mean you don't want it.

"look at what it did to swg all jtl did was allow the damn action twich arcade gamers in and they are the ones who whined to SOE about how swg needed to be more like wow." proof?

"oh and hey look at how well a wow star wars has done with the nge" oh as opposed to how well it was doing before the NGE news flash had the pre cu game been doing well in the first place the changes would not have been made.

"point is bioware needs to take notes and see what gamers really want."  Let's be honest here since we are all gamers and Bioware has done fine by it's fans (me included) in the past, you don't mean what gamers want you mean what disgruntled swg vet's want  as evidenced by your very next post.

  When it comes to trusting an opinion about gaming I'm sorry I'll stick to whatever it is that Bioware is deciding to do as opposed to being led to believe that you disgruntled vet's give two shits about what anyone else wants and that it isn't about trying to pressure them into recreating pre CU SWG in whatever form you all decide.

It's actually not worthy trying to explain, you're best off just shrugging it off, Stillkillin doesn't understand logic and probably never will. All you have to know is he has "200K" friends ready to boycott ToR, he thinks he has the power to change ToR in to Pre-cu or has the power to make them put up a Pre-cu server, he also claims he is the reason SoE is "dying". It gets really retarded, I could go on, but at this point, I have accepted the fact that some mental institution has given its patients computers.

This is his fourth or fifth MMORPG.com forum handle. They all say the same thing. Truly delusional.

Originally posted by stillkillin

no one wants an action game in an mmoRPG

look at what it did to swg all jtls did was allow the damn action twich arcade gamers in and they are the ones who whined to $OE about how swg needed to be more like wow.

oh and hey look at how well a wow star wars has done with the nge.

point is bioware needs to take notes and see what gamers really want.

Plenty of people want an action MMO.  Someday, some gaming company is going to look past all the MMO dinosaurs and make one for us.

Whats Star Wars without epic space combat?

The game has to have space combat of some type, if I had my way it would be twitch combat very like JTL or Freelancer.

I just hope it does not turn out to be this.......... www.youtube.com/watch

Originally posted by silicnsmiley

Originally posted by stillkillin

no one wants an action game in an mmoRPG

look at what it did to swg all jtls did was allow the damn action twich arcade gamers in and they are the ones who whined to $OE about how swg needed to be more like wow.

oh and hey look at how well a wow star wars has done with the nge.

point is bioware needs to take notes and see what gamers really want.

Plenty of people want an action MMO.  Someday, some gaming company is going to look past all the MMO dinosaurs and make one for us.

Agreed - and I look forward to that brave new MMOworld.  My ideal Star Wars MMO would play something like:

The action of the JEDI KNIGHT series...

The PVP of the BATTLEFRONT series...

The movement, animation quality, environmental interaction and sense of adventure/exploration of the UNCHARTED games...

The character customization of All Points Bulletin...

The space combat of Freelancer/JTL...

The sandboxy elements of SWG/Vanguard...

and finally, the DEPTH of KOTOR games.

MASH that all together into a hybrid monster and you've got one unbeatable SWMMO in my humble opinion :D

Bioware hasnt released 95% of the content info yet. Space combat would most certainly be cool if added in.

(AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH engages Revan in plunger vs lightsaber duel.......)

I doubt there'll be any real space combat, similar to the KotOR games. Perhaps in an expansion?

Originally posted by DeaconX

Originally posted by silicnsmiley

Originally posted by stillkillin

no one wants an action game in an mmoRPG

look at what it did to swg all jtls did was allow the damn action twich arcade gamers in and they are the ones who whined to $OE about how swg needed to be more like wow.

oh and hey look at how well a wow star wars has done with the nge.

point is bioware needs to take notes and see what gamers really want.

Plenty of people want an action MMO.  Someday, some gaming company is going to look past all the MMO dinosaurs and make one for us.

 

Agreed - and I look forward to that brave new MMOworld.  My ideal Star Wars MMO would play something like:

The action of the JEDI KNIGHT series...

The PVP of the BATTLEFRONT series...

The movement, animation quality, environmental interaction and sense of adventure/exploration of the UNCHARTED games...

The character customization of All Points Bulletin...

The space combat of Freelancer/JTL...

The sandboxy elements of SWG/Vanguard...

and finally, the DEPTH of KOTOR games.

MASH that all together into a hybrid monster and you've got one unbeatable SWMMO in my humble opinion :D

::sniffles::  You know...we would make beautiful babies together.    This is why you'll always have a special place in my heart.   Because you think like me in terms of games.  
 

Originally posted by tillamook

Originally posted by stillcrying

no one wants an action game in an mmoRPG

look at what it did to swg all jtls did was allow the damn action twich arcade gamers in and they are the ones who whined to $OE about how swg needed to be more like wow.

oh and hey look at how well a wow star wars has done with the nge.

point is bioware needs to take notes and see what gamers really want.

I liked the twitch combat TBH. felt like star wars to me.

 

i liked it as well. i prefer twitch fighting to precu. and im  firmly against alot of things that came with nge, but im also against alot of what SWG was in any versions of it.

action in a mmo is a good thing as long as its balanced with story imo.

On the subject though, i certainly welcome space combat. i cant see what a SW game would be like without it. People have to remember that this game will have mmo elements, but dont expect the hdden sandbox beuty of SWG in this game. i really doubt we will see it, and you should set yourself up to expect it...... well unless your a troll that is, lol

Originally posted by DeaconX

Originally posted by silicnsmiley

Originally posted by stillkillin

no one wants an action game in an mmoRPG

look at what it did to swg all jtls did was allow the damn action twich arcade gamers in and they are the ones who whined to $OE about how swg needed to be more like wow.

oh and hey look at how well a wow star wars has done with the nge.

point is bioware needs to take notes and see what gamers really want.

Plenty of people want an action MMO.  Someday, some gaming company is going to look past all the MMO dinosaurs and make one for us.

 

Agreed - and I look forward to that brave new MMOworld.  My ideal Star Wars MMO would play something like:

The action of the JEDI KNIGHT series...

The PVP of the BATTLEFRONT series...

The movement, animation quality, environmental interaction and sense of adventure/exploration of the UNCHARTED games...

The character customization of All Points Bulletin...

The space combat of Freelancer/JTL...

The sandboxy elements of SWG/Vanguard...

and finally, the DEPTH of KOTOR games.

MASH that all together into a hybrid monster and you've got one unbeatable SWMMO in my humble opinion :D

You and i think very much alike!
 

Originally posted by jadan2000

Originally posted by tillamook

Originally posted by stillcrying

no one wants an action game in an mmoRPG

look at what it did to swg all jtls did was allow the damn action twich arcade gamers in and they are the ones who whined to $OE about how swg needed to be more like wow.

oh and hey look at how well a wow star wars has done with the nge.

point is bioware needs to take notes and see what gamers really want.

I liked the twitch combat TBH. felt like star wars to me.

 

 

i liked it as well. i prefer twitch fighting to precu. and im  firmly against alot of things that came with nge, but im also against alot of what SWG was in any versions of it.

action in a mmo is a good thing as long as its balanced with story imo.

See in my eyes that is where SOE went wrong in SWG-NGE.  Not just the mucking up of clases and stuff, but that gawd-awful psuedo FPS combat system they incorperated.    If they really wished to add FPS shooter combat they should have just gone total FPS combat - like we saw in say Star Wars Battlefront.    Instead we got a crappy wannabe system with no physics and no LOS system in place.    It sucked and always will suck.
 

Originally posted by jinxit

Whats Star Wars without epic space combat?

The game has to have space combat of some type, if I had my way it would be twitch combat very like JTL or Freelancer.

I wouldn't mind that kind of system in TOR either.  

Of course it has to be implemented well.   That's a given with any game mechanic.   It should be fun and playable on it's own, not just something slapped onto a MMORPG to provide game mechanics that people wouldn't want to play otherwise.