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  Kyleran

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10/09/09 1:48:52 PM#41

No, I'm playing EVE and Aion atm.

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  User Deleted
10/09/09 1:49:01 PM#42
Originally posted by Cpt_Picard

Wow was great, and still is. How ever, for the past year and a half,  I have greatly toned down the amount of time I spend playing the game since I am simply bored of it. Nothing, short of a sequel can rejeuvenate how it felt when I first started playing.

I'm simply waiting for another game to come out to topple it. I'll continue playing it since it's where all the people are, but the moment it's clear that the population is going somewhere else, I'll be gone.

 

Anyone else have similar feelings?

So you continue to play WOW because its popular even though your bored ?  So no matter what game in the future gets more subs than WOW its the one you will go to?  Yes folks, it has fallen to this.

  Neopsych

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10/09/09 1:49:59 PM#43

I could not give a rats ass if and when WOW gets overtaken nor do I care if it never gest overtaken. I like the game and I play it amongst others and whilst I know its not everyones type of game, I personally think it has done a lot to raise mass interest in the MMO market and that has played a significant part in raising the genre as a whole.

More interest in the market has brought more investment and even though that brings in multiple crap clone cash ins (as in the history of every other genre), there are some excellent alternatives too.

So, imo, good on you Blizzard and I hope you are successful for a long time to come and continue to invest in great games (MMO's and otherwise) - same goes for SOE amd the other major houses.

 

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  Teala

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10/09/09 1:50:57 PM#44

You're going to be waiting a long, long time.  So why wait at all?   Why do you wish it to fail?   If anything I hope other companies learn from Blizzards example and start producing better games.  Games not based on WoW, but based on how Blizzard made WoW a success.

  NotNiceDino

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10/09/09 1:51:14 PM#45

Sure, they are lot's of people waiting around for WoW to be overtaken... and they're all stupid.

Really, how pathetic do you have to be to care? I enjoy my niche games, and don't give a crap that they are niche. I enjoy WoW and don't give a crap that it's popular. My enjoyment is not affected by a games relative popularity to WoW, my enjoyment of WoW isn't even affected by the relative popularity of WoW.

I have nothing to gain or lose by WoW being overtaken. And neither do you.

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  Murashu

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10/09/09 2:55:54 PM#46

I dont really care what happens to WoW. Blizzard has done a great job of picking a target audience and making a quality game for that audience. Grats casual gamers!

 

What I am waiting around for is someone to make a challenging game with death penalties, integrated PvP, limited instancing, skill-based character advancement, player run economy, full player crafted gear (mobs drop materials but not armor/weapons) , player housing/player cities, and content for the soloer, the 6 man group, 20 man group and 50 man raid.

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  Ilvaldyr

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10/09/09 3:03:10 PM#47

I've been playing WoW for 5 years now and yeah, I'm waiting for it to eventually die. I'm waiting for it to be succeeded by a new game that improves on the sky-high standard that Blizzard have set while retaining it's core concepts.

It's not that I want WoW to die; I just want to play the game that kills it.


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  Mardy

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10/09/09 3:52:23 PM#48

Why the need to wait for a game to be toppled?  I don't play a game because it's #1 on the charts, I play because I enjoy it.  When I stop having fun, I move elsewhere.  So for me, I'm not waiting for WoW to be overtaken.  It's making tons of people happy so they have a good fanbase.

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  Goronian

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10/09/09 4:03:33 PM#49

 I think all of us (Blizzard included) know, that WoW won't be toppled in a long time, because people keep[ returning to it, due to "all my friends are playing it", and new people getting in precisely because of that.

'nuff said. However, you can still enjoy the fact, that the rest of 'em are niche and you can have you little geekvanna, just like in old times.

It's easy actually. Imagine WoW as a gigantic Elephant. It's hard o ignore it, unless it's far away.

I hate WoW because it made my plush hamster kill himself, created twin clones of Hitler, punched Superboy Prime in reality, stared my dog down, spoiled my grandmother, assimilated me into the Borg, then made me into a real boy, just to make me a woman again.

  Jackio81

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The MMO genre as a whole is a running joke considering a 5+ year old game is so dominant.

10/09/09 5:32:53 PM#50
Originally posted by Jackio81

I'm waiting for players to stop talking about WoW all butt-hurt just because it's the most successful MMO.

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Just felt like saying this again...I'll be back again to repost this  after a couple more pages...>>

  User Deleted
10/09/09 6:13:14 PM#51
Originally posted by Jackio81
Originally posted by Jackio81

I'm waiting for players to stop talking about WoW all butt-hurt just because it's the most successful MMO.

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Just felt like saying this again...I'll be back again to repost this  after a couple more pages...>>

 

Word. I don't understand why anyone gives a damn if another MMO does better than WOW or not.

  zaxxon23

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10/09/09 6:39:56 PM#52

I just simply don't care about wow.  I played it for two years, found it to be lacking, and left.  Have rarely been tempted to come back.  It's a good game, and I see why people like it.  I did too at one time.  

 

As far as i'm concerned, it's not about bringing wow down, it's about creating a quality alternative for those that want more from their mmo.  Naturally, that will likely result in a lower subscription level for wow, but that likely won't "kill" it.  Heck, if there were a good sandbox / linear hybrid out there that only had a million customers, and wow still had 10 million, I'd be ecstatic.  

 

When you really think about it, how many mmos have you played over a million players?  With the exception of those who played Lineage 1/2, pretty much no one has played a mmo with a million customers except for wow.  So here's the key point:  Wow is not the problem.  The problem is that there are no developers who can make a competitive alternative.  If anything, wow is a positive as it sets the bar for that "quality alternative" at a much higher level.

 

There is a gap to be filled in the market, and an entrepreneur with the proper funding has that market 100% completely open to them.  We know that wow clones are possible in a decreased development cycle, and all it would take is a wow clone plus deep sandbox elements and a larger world that is polished and of high mmo quality.  Of course I understand that you can't just whip that up, and that it is a challenge.  However, it's not an insurmountable challenge by any means.  If I had the financial backing, I'd love to do it myself.

  Shazzel1

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10/09/09 9:59:17 PM#53

If you played WoW for two years it wasnt lacking... 420$ for two years worth of entertainment, you could spend that much in a single night out. (without trying)

  Goronian

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10/10/09 2:56:38 AM#54
Originally posted by Shazzel1

If you played WoW for two years it wasnt lacking... 420$ for two years worth of entertainment, you could spend that much in a single night out. (without trying)

Don't forget "social ties". The game may be bad, but "everyone I know plays it", thus you stay.

I'm lucky no one I know plays it, to be honest.

I hate WoW because it made my plush hamster kill himself, created twin clones of Hitler, punched Superboy Prime in reality, stared my dog down, spoiled my grandmother, assimilated me into the Borg, then made me into a real boy, just to make me a woman again.

  aleos

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I will rip your world apart.

10/10/09 3:14:06 AM#55
Originally posted by Cpt_Picard
Originally posted by aleos

 unlike what seems like everyone else in the world, I don't sit around and wait for games to fail. I play what i want when i want and i don't care what anyone says.

 

Oh, I forray into other games all the time, How ever they have never held the same signifcance as wow has.

Like if I get a good piece of endgame loot in lotro, it doesn't feel the same as getting something in wow. It's like windows, It may be worse than Mac but since everyone uses it, it's better.

To my knowledge everyone uses it because its simple, both windows compared to mac and WoW to other MMOs.  You find collecting 10 wolfs teeth to be a challenge. Just because everyone uses something doesn't make it better.  You know how many people out there actually pay for stuff? If they only knew what torrents were.

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  zaxxon23

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10/10/09 8:03:53 PM#56
Originally posted by aleos
Originally posted by Cpt_Picard
Originally posted by aleos

 unlike what seems like everyone else in the world, I don't sit around and wait for games to fail. I play what i want when i want and i don't care what anyone says.

 

Oh, I forray into other games all the time, How ever they have never held the same signifcance as wow has.

Like if I get a good piece of endgame loot in lotro, it doesn't feel the same as getting something in wow. It's like windows, It may be worse than Mac but since everyone uses it, it's better.

To my knowledge everyone uses it because its simple, both windows compared to mac and WoW to other MMOs.  You find collecting 10 wolfs teeth to be a challenge. Just because everyone uses something doesn't make it better.  You know how many people out there actually pay for stuff? If they only knew what torrents were.

 

I intentionally pay for stuff.  I've got a good job and i can afford to, and if no one pays for this stuff the artists will stop making it (or at least not making as much of it).  Of course I know about torrents, and I could have hard drives full of movies and music and games.  But if I've got the capability to pay for it, I'm gonna do that.  I'm not gonna demonize you for it, because truthfully speaking I used to do it myself.  But don't go making out like someone who buys their stuff is some kind of retard for it.  Without them, the stuff you steal wouldn't be there in the first place.

  Aradria

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10/13/09 4:10:32 AM#57

Kind of a daft title. It's like saying "Is anyone else waiting around for Jay-Z to be overtaken at the top of the music charts?", it's only going to be replaced with something equally horrible.

  User Deleted
10/13/09 4:28:57 AM#58
Originally posted by grunty

I play a game because I like it not because other people play it. When I stop liking a game I stop playing a game.


 

But this is what WoW community is they dont play WoW becouse they like it they play it to be cool and can say to there friends they play WoW also thats the mass they all followers of whats most popular.

 

And OP clearly proof he play games MASS play not becouse he likes it lol.

  noblot

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10/13/09 6:14:37 AM#59

Yes, because until it is, game developers will be forced to make games that have elements that are like WoW.

Typical conversation:

Gamedeveloper: I've come up with a new MMO idea.

Banker: Will it make a tonne of cash like WoW?

Gamedeveloper: I'm sure that it will sell, but I wasn't planning on making it much like WoW.

Banker: Oh I'm sure it will be fine, just make sure that there is some half naked elf chicks and we have a deal.

Gamedevelper: <sigh>

Oh the other hand, a game that has made a few squillion dollars of money can only help put MMOs on the map as games that companies should invest in and develop.

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