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General Discussion  » Ok So What are the Problems so far? The Bad Thing in Aion? (excluding Starter Bugs of course)

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  tro44_1

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I Love the Holy Warrior Archtype

 
10/08/09 1:39:22 AM#1

Whats bad about the game so far?

Hows the Economy in AION?

Hows the Gathering System?

Hows the Crafting System?

Hows the Combat System?

PvP Problems?

PvE Problems?

Does Auto Move and Auto Face, ruin the PvPvE in AION?

Hows the Classes?

Hows End Game PvE?

Hows End Game PvP?

Is this Game Never Ending, like most MMORPG, or is it completable like Guild Wars?

How Fast and Smooth is the Melee Combat in Aion? (Instant Attacks like WoW?) | (Queued Strikes like Guild Wars)?

  Kaocan

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10/08/09 2:03:02 AM#2
Originally posted by tro44_1

Whats bad about the game so far? nothing, game has been live for 2 weeks, I'ld assume that once the game actually reaches the end of its first live month that some people might have some info about what might be bad with it. Until then all your going to hear is going to be from people who hated the game before they ever started to play it, or from people who never did.

Hows the Economy in AION? Live 2 weeks, seriously, how many MMOs have ever had a 100% stable economy in the first 2 weeks after launch? Give it time to build.

Hows the Gathering System? working as intended - again lets be serious here, game has been live 2 weeks and your looking for accurate information on a system that is just being learned by everyone?

Hows the Crafting System? working as intended - see above

Hows the Combat System? working as intended - see above

PvP Problems?  like? oh you just want to know anything here - troll much?

PvE Problems? like? oh you just want to know anything here - troll much?

Does Auto Move and Auto Face, ruin the PvPvE in AION? no, not at all - myth made up by trolls to incite forum rants

Hows the Classes? Live 2 weeks - oh and tons of fun to play, if you actually want to try and play the game.

Hows End Game PvE? Live 2 weeks - anyone who says they know what end-game is like is lying to you - they are assuming they know because they think they are able to see the future

Hows End Game PvP? Live 2 weeks - see above

Is this Game Never Ending, like most MMORPG, or is it completable like Guild Wars? This is an MMO, all MMOs intentionally do not end - seriously how can you eeven concider this a real question? You Honestly think you can finish that one boss in that one dungeon and the game pops up a box that says Congrats - YOU WIN!!

How Fast and Smooth is the Melee Combat in Aion? (Instant Attacks like WoW?) | (Queued Strikes like Guild Wars)? Perfectly smooth, it can be done on stupid mode (mashing keys blindly) or with forethought. Its smooth and interactive, the more you participate the better your results.


 

Games been out a little over 2 weeks and half your questions ask how end-game is? The other half, all based off troll threads with little to no basis from in-game experience. Not to mention all you want to hear about are the 'problems so far' and the 'bad things'. Yeah, not worth feeding the troll here (even though I did, sometimes its just too much fun).

 

Lock the thread please!

(DISCLAIMER - The use of the word YOU in the above post is not directed at any one person in particular, but towards those who fall into the category itself - there is no personal attack here, neither intentional nor implied.)

  Wolfenpride

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10/08/09 2:09:30 AM#3
Originally posted by tro44_1

Whats bad about the game so far?

Fun, polished, interesting world, RvR/PvP, decent PVE

Hows the Economy in AION?

Pretty good, easy to get rich off it selling aether/gathered mat's and green's.

Hows the Gathering System?

boring, you click and you watch the bar suceed or fail, leveling it up takes some time though. aether gathering will make you want to shoot a dev. Good money though, since most crafters are to lazy to level gathering.

Hows the Crafting System?

you buy a few mat's, use a few gathered ones, and watch a bar suceed or fail. Work orders help you level/ get mat's. Rare recipes can be found as drops/quests and such. Some recipes can proc for a better result.

Hows the Combat System?

Like any other, combo system is fun though, and animations look great

PvP Problems?

occasional gankage if your running solo in a pvp zone. very team based but i find that a good thing.

PvE Problems?

None i'd say really..some complain grind is a little harder but honestly it's about comparable to CoH grind.

Does Auto Move and Auto Face, ruin the PvPvE in AION?

Not that i've noticed, in fact I love auto move. others who want to move around for the bonuses can do so.

Hows the Classes?

each very basic, you've got your tanks, healers, dps, pet's, etc. they are all very speacialized in their own field though, not to many hybrid classes.

Hows End Game PvE?

ask the koreans, no one here is 50 yet.

Hows End Game PvP?

ask the koreans, likely centered around abyss battles/sieges.

Is this Game Never Ending, like most MMORPG, or is it completable like Guild Wars?

never ending, though their is a storyline for you character you can complete i think. each zone has its own campaign.

How Fast and Smooth is the Melee Combat in Aion? (Instant Attacks like WoW?) | (Queued Strikes like Guild Wars)?

Pretty fast-paced, melee attacks are instant but animation does have it's own 2-3 sec's before it strikes usually. Very smooth though, animations connect beautifully.


 

  luciusETRUR

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10/08/09 2:10:32 AM#4

Guild Wars is not Aion. Not at all, I don't really see how you came to such a conclusion. Guild Wars was catered as PvP game with a co-operative campaign-style storyline. There was no question about it going into that game, where did you get this idea with Aion? Aion is much like Lineage II, except I would imagine the grind is not nearly as "bad". Also, factions takes a big change from Lineage II, as you don't have control over who your keep/castle gives benefits to. (On the faction-based ones..)

  ArcheusCross

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10/08/09 4:06:06 AM#5
Originally posted by tro44_1

Whats bad about the game so far? Gold sellers. The economy. The AH is flooded with way more things than it should be. People are buying gold to grind out crafting and flooding the AH making it hard for legit crafters to flourish. Community is fair, though sometimes its just downright horrible. Quests get bad after awhole, same shit sifferent color. No thought put into them.

Hows the Economy in AION?

Horrible. The AH is stacked with items from botters and gold buying crafters. Good luck selling anything fast for a decent price without having to undercut a lot.

Hows the Gathering System?

Decent but exploitable. Things pop in the same area each time and the channel change functio makes this easier. Just grind away to a high lv gathering nad go back to lower level areas for high lv crafting items (green)

Hows the Crafting System?

Shitty. Most work orders give you stupid random shit like one nail (i kid you not) id rather have money. Not to mention people buying gold have just made crafting meaningless as they control the AH. You might as well not craft, unless its ofr the guild, bu good luck funding that without pulling your hair out.

Hows the Combat System?

Fine, but it gets annoying as hell to repeat the same combos with no brain power needed or no tactics needed.

PvP Problems?

PvP is decent. Probably my only positive thumbs up.

PvE Problems?

YES. For the love of all thats holy i cant stand another kill x of y quest...

Does Auto Move and Auto Face, ruin the PvPvE in AION?

Nah.

Hows the Classes?

Most play the gladiato, at least until lthey nerf it. they are all ok, some just need a little love.


 

Ill end it there.. that should be enough info.

 

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  tro44_1

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I Love the Holy Warrior Archtype

 
10/11/09 3:46:34 PM#6

ok thx

  laokoko

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Posts: 1057

10/11/09 5:16:01 PM#7

I think the endgame is lacking.  That's probably why you need to grind forever to reach max level.

I also hate the fact that there is only 1 true character that can tank, and 1 true character that can crowd control. 

  pmcubed

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Joined: 12/17/05
Posts: 180

10/11/09 5:34:05 PM#8
Originally posted by laokoko

I think the endgame is lacking.  That's probably why you need to grind forever to reach max level.

I also hate the fact that there is only 1 true character that can tank, and 1 true character that can crowd control. 

 

and 1 true ring to rule them all?  PvP like DOAC would be great.  3 factions so one cant get OP vs. another if they are allowed to team up...  AION is niche, its hard to say.. you might or might not like it~ 

  Aleste

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Joined: 9/25/09
Posts: 63

10/12/09 1:14:56 AM#9

Its only problem is that its actually a good game, causing it to attract all sort of trolls, sort of how light attracts insects.

In a nutshell the only problem is the Leveling curve, which will be greatly improved in the coming patch.

Improve Aion's Graphics with a simple text file that you can create by yourself:

-Increase in-game Field of View to 175% or more

-Increase view distance for players to 100 meters with camera at max distance

-Lots of other settings

Learn how by reading this guide at Aionsource

http://www.aionsource.com/forum/general-guides/84379-definite-guide-aions-graphical-settings-performance-tips.html

  Fortenc

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Joined: 8/03/09
Posts: 429

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10/12/09 1:22:01 AM#10

A random note about the economy...

I'm making it quite rich on the Broker.  I never have any trouble selling things and I can usually buy out a few of the ridiculously underpriced things and then sell them at a good price.  I've never really 'played the 'AH'' in a game before and I find myself able to do so in AION.  Armor and weapons can be sold for anywhere from super expensive to very cheap but if you go out and get some gathering items and trade items, look them up in the Brokerage and buy out the small stacks of cheap ones you can make a good buck by selling them for more.

The botters and the spammers are the bane of this game though I have found absolutely NOTHING wrong with the actual economy.  Nothing is too expensive and only the most basic of items such as leathers are too cheap.  Anything that actually requires you to gather it sells well, so there's no real problem on either of the NA servers I play on.. unless you want to buy legendary type items.  Gotta be rich foo, but that should be expected, nay?

 

EDIT:  Seems like some people are a little jaded (lookin' at you ArcheusCross). 

Crafting is somewhat a grind but looks pretty, can be done just for money instead of for materials if you want and can get you some wicked rewards.  A green item randomly turning into a blue is epic.

As stated above the economy is fine.  Gold farmers don't seem to be affecting any of my NA servers in any other way than bots and spamming.

PvE is just like any other game, quest or grind on mobs, PvP gives a bit of experience and you get a shizzload more experience in the Abyss (25+ PvP zone with PvE mobs and quests) and even gathering gives experience but it becomes negligible quite quickly.

Objectivity is delivered with a lack of personality made for the mainstream but never used for the mainstream.

  blakavar

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10/12/09 1:26:46 AM#11

The only bad thing is that it is formulaic. Its a numbers cruncher not a true escape, grind, level to get to the good stuff. Rinse and repeat level after level. They really had somthing with the mythos and the wings and light and dark and so epicly dropped the ball.

You may insert flame here.

In the end I gave whats left of my sub time to a freind. I won't bash the game a lot of folks love it and it has a ton of potential, just not my cup of tea.

  Swanea

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Joined: 4/25/08
Posts: 2113

10/12/09 1:34:49 AM#12
Originally posted by Aleste

Its only problem is that its actually a good game, causing it to attract all sort of trolls, sort of how light attracts insects.

In a nutshell the only problem is the Leveling curve, which will be greatly improved in the coming patch.

 

Spoken like a true fanboi...

There are problems in every game.  If you say a game has no problems, you obviously can't look at something without letting your own personal feelings influence the facts.

  Aleste

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Joined: 9/25/09
Posts: 63

10/12/09 2:20:23 AM#13
Originally posted by Swanea
Originally posted by Aleste

Its only problem is that its actually a good game, causing it to attract all sort of trolls, sort of how light attracts insects.

In a nutshell the only problem is the Leveling curve, which will be greatly improved in the coming patch.

 

Spoken like a true fanboi...

There are problems in every game.  If you say a game has no problems, you obviously can't look at something without letting your own personal feelings influence the facts.

 

Good thing then that i didn't mention it has no problems. And since when did the possibilty of feelings not influencing opinions emerge ?

 

 

 

Improve Aion's Graphics with a simple text file that you can create by yourself:

-Increase in-game Field of View to 175% or more

-Increase view distance for players to 100 meters with camera at max distance

-Lots of other settings

Learn how by reading this guide at Aionsource

http://www.aionsource.com/forum/general-guides/84379-definite-guide-aions-graphical-settings-performance-tips.html

  heartless

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10/12/09 11:35:39 AM#14

To me, the biggest problem is the community itself. One of the servers I play on, Meslamtaeda, there are guilds called "White Power" and "I DPed your mom."

Besides the constant gold spam and the pointless "WoW vs Aion" discussions, verbal abuse of other players is also very common. WoW's Barrens chat has nothing on Aion.

At this point, I would have to say that Aion has one of the worst communities I have ever experienced. At least on the Meslamtaeda server, not saying that all servers are like that.

  Paragus1

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10/12/09 11:57:56 AM#15

I did a write up on Friday about some of the games strong and weak suits.  You might find it useful...

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  Anubisan

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10/12/09 1:12:49 PM#16
Originally posted by tro44_1

Whats bad about the game so far?

Gold spammers have absolutely overrun the game. It is worse than any other MMO I have ever played. The spammers are so bad that everyone leaves the chat channels, rather than attempting to deal with them. Even then, you get /tell spams from gold sellers. The level grind is also a little annoying because there are content gaps at certain points where you will be required to grind mobs for experience because there simply are no quests for your level. This happens more and more the higher level you get and is quite annoying in my opinion.

Hows the Economy in AION?

Economy seems to be reasonably well thought out. Money is not terribly difficult to come by if you gather and take the time to sell things through the trade broker. There are money sinks EVERYWHERE, but they don't usually cause a problem if you are smart about how you play. I honestly don't enjoy the personal stores, however. I don't see any need for them AND the trade brokers, other than the fact that you can only sell 10 items at a time through the broker (which is extremely annoying).

Hows the Gathering System?

Pretty boring in my opinion. You have to watch the success/failure bars race each other on each attempt and it just wastes time in my opinion.

Hows the Crafting System?

Honestly can't comment here. I haven't tried it.

Hows the Combat System?

Combat system is enjoyable and fast-paced. The combo system adds a layer of complexity to encounters that is very enjoyable.

PvP Problems?

You will be ganked a lot unless you travel with a group in the Abyss. Fortunately, there are areas where you can level that are reasonably safe in comparison.

PvE Problems?

Lack of content. There are not enough quests to get your character all the way to cap. There are also not enough dungeons at present. Hopefully this will be resolved as the game ages and NCSoft adds some content. I hear they are already planning to increase the reward gains from questing after level 30, but I don't know when that will be implemented for the North American servers.

Does Auto Move and Auto Face, ruin the PvPvE in AION?

Not in my experience, no.

Hows the Classes?

Every class I have played has been enjoyable. Some have a MUCH easier time leveling than others. I cannot comment on overall balance because I have not reached end game yet.

Hows End Game PvE?

Very few people have reached it, so you probably won't get a good answer to this yet.

Hows End Game PvP?

Same as for end game PvE.

Is this Game Never Ending, like most MMORPG, or is it completable like Guild Wars?

It is not like Guild Wars. It is more akin to World of Warcraft, but with a heavy PvP focus.

How Fast and Smooth is the Melee Combat in Aion? (Instant Attacks like WoW?) | (Queued Strikes like Guild Wars)?

The PvP is very fast and smooth. The developers took many things from World of Warcraft and the combat plays out very much like it does in that game. However, the addition of the combo system makes it a little bit more involved, which I personally enjoy very much.

 

Hope that helps.

  DuraheLL

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10/12/09 4:01:48 PM#17
Originally posted by ArcheusCross

Hows the Economy in AION?

Horrible. The AH is stacked with items from botters and gold buying crafters. Good luck selling anything fast for a decent price without having to undercut a lot.


 

 

... so, that means when you want something you'll probably find it cheap? Which is well beneficial for crafters.

Sounds just like greed-talking to me here. Vendors still pay good Kinah for stuff. And since items have no value how can we really say we "undercut" alot really? If something has alot of it on the broker that means it drops pretty regularly , meaning it deserves a smaller price.

You'r opinion is also flawed because I recall gaining 100'ds of thousands of Kinah every week over the broker


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  Cognoman

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10/12/09 5:37:18 PM#18

Aion is one giant grind.

Imagine this, you are level 29 and you want to lvl up doing missions.  You go to ice Claw village with a weak group.  You die 10 times and spend 60k on soul healing.  You say to yourself wtf?  I should have stayed solo and grind weak mobs.  Then you grind weak mobs then after 1 hour you say to yourself this is fucking boring, Im going to pvp in Abyss.  You go to Abyss and join a zerg and you get credited with 60 kills but wtf, its 60 kills divided by 20 and you find out you got 70 abyss points in total for 1.5 hrs of pvp.  Add to that 20 pot used to keep yourself alive and its another wtf moment!  I should have stayed in that nice safe place grinding lowbie mobs and get reported as a bot.

 

Then you say to yourself, im going to go crafting.  You get all your harvest skills up and you get mats.  You save 200k and you go to pande thinking you have enough to make an ok armor set.  After 3 hours of grinding to get your crafting up you realize you only have enough money and mats to make 2 nice armor and you are broke again.  Guess what, another wtf moment, you say to yourself i shoulda stayed in that nice safe place and grinded another 4 hours before doing this crafting thing.

then you realized, wtf, i shoulda watched CSI or watch the Seahawks, or go out with my friends or look at my uber porn site than go grind for 6 hours straight killing the same dragonfly/seahorse/aardvark looking thing.

 

  Wickedjelly

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10/12/09 5:43:10 PM#19
Originally posted by Cognoman

...watch the Seahawks


 

Now that was just low.  Even for these boards it was cruel to go that far.

1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.

2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.

3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.

  User Deleted
10/12/09 5:52:51 PM#20
Most play the gladiato, at least until lthey nerf it.

Gladiators account for only 16-17% of all characters created in AION. NA servers, at least.

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