Hey fellas, I have just made a channel for SWG on Gamesurge to bring the games community together! Internet Relay Chat is a really great way to discuss the game with people who have the same passion for the game as you do. Hope to see you all there!

--------------------------- Server: irc.gamesurge.net ---------------------------
---------------------------------- Channel: #SGW ----------------------------------

This is a step by step guide on how to connect to Stargate Worlds IRC channel..

Step 1 - Head over to mIRC: Internet Relay Chat client

Step 2 - Click on the Download tab up the top

Step 3 - Click on 'Download mIRC'

Step 4 - Click on 'Download Now'

Step 5 - Install it to your hardrive

Step 6 - Open mIRC

Step 7 - Press Continue

Step 8 - Fill in your name, email (if you want, its not needed)

Step 9 - Fill in your Nickname

Step 10 - Click on Servers on the left

Step 11 - Search for the 'GameSurge' Folder and double click on it

Step 12 - Double click on 'Random server'

Step 13 - It should take you back to the connect screen

Step 14 - Click 'Connect'

Step 15 - A whole lot of text should fly up and finally bring up a channels window, in that channels window click 'Add'

Step 16 - Type 'SGW' into the Channel window, with no spaces

Step 17- Click Join on connect then Click 'OK'

Step 18 - Make sure 'Pop up favorites on connect' and 'Enable join on connect' are clicked

Step 19 - Double Click on the channel #SGW

Step 20 - Chat!

Good. You fixed the 'SWG'

Why? So we can discuss the shady business practices and disappointment that the game will never be made?

Why do people not check the SGW forums which shows that there is an SGW channel up already? forums.stargateworlds.com/showthread.php it is the first few lines.

Originally posted by Aseenus

Internet Relay Chat is a really great way to discuss the game with people who have the same passion for the game as you do.

That is what this forum is for.

Yeah but gamesurge is better :P

Originally posted by Aseenus

Yeah but gamesurge is better :P

Actually no it isn't. #stargate-worlds used to be on gamesurge before moving to bctrainer's sgwirc and later renamed replay irc. replay irc is doing a better job then gamesurge as it isn't full of bugs like nick auth problems.

Since when is ANY IRC better than a forum? I've never understood the obsession some people have with IRC.

Originally posted by Raltar

Since when is ANY IRC better than a forum? I've never understood the obsession some people have with IRC.

IRC is real time, while forums are a "delay posting" type of setup. I don't know of any forum currently other than DSLReports.com that automatically adds in new replies while you are viewing the current tread. :)

If "real time" chat is the  only advantage of IRC, then you might as well use AOL Instant Messenger...

Meanwhile a forum has the advantage that you can communicate with large numbers of people without them ALL having to be online at the same time as you. You can take as much time as you need to type up your message. You can fix spelling and grammar errors before posting. You can edit your message after it has been posted in the event that you missed something. And after posting the message you can go do something fun while you wait for a reply.

 Just use Ventrillo! LOL

Originally posted by RavingRabbid

 Just use Ventrillo! LOL

Yeah, another good point.

For any scenario where a gamer would actually NEED a real time chat, voice chat has made IRC obsolete.

Originally posted by Raltar

Originally posted by RavingRabbid

 Just use Ventrillo! LOL

 

Yeah, another good point.

For any scenario where a gamer would actually NEED a real time chat, voice chat has made IRC obsolete.

That is only true if everyone in question wanted to speak. IRC allows chat without people hearing anothers voice. Not everyone wants to hear or be heard ;)

Originally posted by Tylantia

That is only true if everyone in question wanted to speak. IRC allows chat without people hearing anothers voice. Not everyone wants to hear or be heard ;)

Unless you are deaf/mute, 13 years old (and don't want anyone to find aout about it) or pretending to be a gender you are actually not part of... then I can't see any logical reason why you wouldn't want to use your own voice. Or want others to do the same for that matter.

Plus, good luck using IRC while playing a game. While you are alt-tabbing out of the game to type in IRC the guy using vent who you are playing aginst will be shooting rockets at you and laughing with his buddies about it at the same time.

I have no qualms about chatting in ventrillo, but I prefer IRC when not in game. I don't always want to listen to someone's voice when I want to chat. It is often preferable to use IRC. Even organising things is much easier and CLEARER through text chat like IRC.

Suggesting people use messenger over IRC is rediculous and just goes to show you have no idea what you're talking about.  IRC allows dozens even hundreds of people to chat or just sit and stare at the screen if they want to.  The chat can be controlled by operators (ie no abusive behaviour, bullying) and a whole range of channels can be set up to accomodate different topics etc.  If you can't see the advantages of that then you're, well... stupid.

Another important point.  Many people on the internet simply don't have the confidence to talk on ventrillo to people from around the world.  IRC allows them to chat or give their opinion on something without feeling uncomfortable.

Nobody said IRC makes in game event's easier to do. It doesn't.
 

Originally posted by Gaunt2005

A: I don't always want to listen to someone's voice when I want to chat. It is often preferable to use IRC.

B: Even organising things is much easier and CLEARER through text chat like IRC.

C: IRC allows dozens even hundreds of people to chat or just sit and stare at the screen if they want to.  The chat can be controlled by operators (ie no abusive behaviour, bullying) and a whole range of channels can be set up to accomodate different topics etc. 

D: If you can't see the advantages of that then you're, well... stupid.

E: Many people on the internet simply don't have the confidence to talk on ventrillo to people from around the world.  IRC allows them to chat or give their opinion on something without feeling uncomfortable.

A: Why? You still can't explain that. What advantage could there possibly be to having to type instead of speak or read some tiny text on a page rather than hear it spoken? Plus, you STILL have to be looking RIGHT AT an IRC window to chat in it. I can do ANYTHING I want while chatting on a Vent server. I can play a game (it doesn't even need to be the same game others on the server are playing, nor do I even need to be talking about it), looking at a website, reading a book, watching TV... anything! All without havint to ever ALT-TAB back to some other window to read text messages or type messages for others to read.

B: Again, WHY? I can speak out loud much easier than I can type. If a permanent record of what was said in the past is needed, then I would say that is what a forum is for. Plus, unlike IRC, a discussion can easily take place on a forum over several days with participants who don't all have to be online at the same time in order to speak with one another. If you need to be organized use a forum. If you need speed use Vent. IRC is just like a weird mutant who exists in between forums and Vent, but with fewer advantages than either of them.

C: So does a forum or a Vent server. I have my own vent server and I can boot anyone I want out and make any changes I like to the server. I also have been an administrator on many different forums down through the years. You talk like these are features exclusive to IRC but they aren't.

Bear in mind that these things aren't always advantages. Often IRC users are very elitist and only become OPs or channel admins so they can lord their power over other users. Every channel will have its own self appointed king and anyone who dares to challenge him gets the ban hammer. Of course you can always just change your name and come back. Plus, IRC is not very secure. Anyone can try to guess the channel admin password and if they get it right they can become the new self appointed king, banning anyone they don't like. Its like a nerd version of king of the hill, with people constantly bickering and shoving each other around to try and be the guy on top.

D: Ohhhh! Insults! You are so grown up and mature! (Note for everyone else: This is that elitist IRC user attitude I was talking about. They assume anyone who isn't smart enough to see the "obvious advantages" of IRC must be too stupid to understand them. If this were an actual IRC chat room he would have just kicked me out of the channel the instant I said anything he didn't agree with.)

E: Thats their problem and one they need to get over. Assuming its an "advantage" of IRC that some people are apparently too afraid of real social contact to actually let anyone hear their voice sounds like nerd logic to me.

A - One of the things with IRC is you can have multiple (different) conversations at the same time, which would become to confusing if it were over chat, unlike these voice chats, you can have serveral screens open, 4-5 private chats going, 2-3 group chats going. Voice your really limited to one group or person to person (with alot of jumping around, mich more than would be required compared to IRC.

B - Again ever had people drop in and out, or go AFK, if someone goes AFK while in voice, if they didnt hear you, then they dont know you said it.  In a IRC chat you can actually be AFK 24 hours and come back and quickly review what you missed.  Even if you recorded the last 24 hours of chat, its going to take you much longer to review what you missed, compared to scanning through text.  (also searching for specific text is going to be much easier).

C - Admin of a IRC server is just a simple as any other medium, usually you have bots running on IRC to automate alot of stuff which cannot be done by Ventrillo or a Forum (without actual human intervention).

D - I am just raising some points here, not saying which is better than the other, my personal preference is Voice for a small group(upto 5 people), and then IRC for a larger group (5+).  More than not I will be chatting to one person, or a small group with SKYPE and chatting with a larger group with privates in IRC (at the same time).  I think they work habd in hand, not that one is better than the other.

E - no comment......

Originally posted by yellowperil

A - One of the things with IRC is you can have multiple (different) conversations at the same time, which would become to confusing if it were over chat 

B - Again ever had people drop in and out, or go AFK, if someone goes AFK while in voice, if they didnt hear you, then they dont know you said it.  In a IRC chat you can actually be AFK 24 hours and come back and quickly review what you missed.   

C - Admin of a IRC server is just a simple as any other medium, usually you have bots running on IRC to automate alot of stuff which cannot be done by Ventrillo or a Forum (without actual human intervention). 

D - my personal preference is Voice for a small group(upto 5 people), and then IRC for a larger group (5+). 

A: By that logic you should never speak to more than five people at once without rushing off to your computer and demanding they all join your IRC server. Life doesn't work that way. Imagine if Congress had to meet through IRC. Do you really think that would be better? (Not to mention that Vent servers offer the option to send private messages to other users, so this once again is not a feature which is exculsive to IRC.)

B: That is what a forum is for. If I want to leave a message for a person who is not online or communicate with a large group of people who may not all be online at the same time, then I would use a forum. Asking all of those people to remain logged into an IRC server 24/7 just so they don't miss anything I say is absurd. Post your messages on a forum and they can come see them and reply to them at their leisure.

C: I will concede that I have seen bots in IRC channels and to the best of my knowledge there is no similar feature offered by Vent or a forum. But I suspect that is partly because such things are largely unnessary on vent or a forum.

D: And my personal prefrence is Vent when talking to people who are online and I need to communicate with quickly and easily. If I need to have a civilized discussion with a very large group of people or I need to communicate with people who may not be online then I will use a forum for that. IRC does not offer any advantage which cannot be obtained by use of either a vent server or a forum and is thus a waste of time in my opinion.

Originally posted by Raltar

Originally posted by Gaunt2005

A: I don't always want to listen to someone's voice when I want to chat. It is often preferable to use IRC.

B: Even organising things is much easier and CLEARER through text chat like IRC.

C: IRC allows dozens even hundreds of people to chat or just sit and stare at the screen if they want to.  The chat can be controlled by operators (ie no abusive behaviour, bullying) and a whole range of channels can be set up to accomodate different topics etc. 

D: If you can't see the advantages of that then you're, well... stupid.

E: Many people on the internet simply don't have the confidence to talk on ventrillo to people from around the world.  IRC allows them to chat or give their opinion on something without feeling uncomfortable.

A: Why? You still can't explain that. What advantage could there possibly be to having to type instead of speak or read some tiny text on a page rather than hear it spoken? Plus, you STILL have to be looking RIGHT AT an IRC window to chat in it. I can do ANYTHING I want while chatting on a Vent server. I can play a game (it doesn't even need to be the same game others on the server are playing, nor do I even need to be talking about it), looking at a website, reading a book, watching TV... anything! All without havint to ever ALT-TAB back to some other window to read text messages or type messages for others to read.

B: Again, WHY? I can speak out loud much easier than I can type. If a permanent record of what was said in the past is needed, then I would say that is what a forum is for. Plus, unlike IRC, a discussion can easily take place on a forum over several days with participants who don't all have to be online at the same time in order to speak with one another. If you need to be organized use a forum. If you need speed use Vent. IRC is just like a weird mutant who exists in between forums and Vent, but with fewer advantages than either of them.

C: So does a forum or a Vent server. I have my own vent server and I can boot anyone I want out and make any changes I like to the server. I also have been an administrator on many different forums down through the years. You talk like these are features exclusive to IRC but they aren't.

Bear in mind that these things aren't always advantages. Often IRC users are very elitist and only become OPs or channel admins so they can lord their power over other users. Every channel will have its own self appointed king and anyone who dares to challenge him gets the ban hammer. Of course you can always just change your name and come back. Plus, IRC is not very secure. Anyone can try to guess the channel admin password and if they get it right they can become the new self appointed king, banning anyone they don't like. Its like a nerd version of king of the hill, with people constantly bickering and shoving each other around to try and be the guy on top.

D: Ohhhh! Insults! You are so grown up and mature! (Note for everyone else: This is that elitist IRC user attitude I was talking about. They assume anyone who isn't smart enough to see the "obvious advantages" of IRC must be too stupid to understand them. If this were an actual IRC chat room he would have just kicked me out of the channel the instant I said anything he didn't agree with.)

E: Thats their problem and one they need to get over. Assuming its an "advantage" of IRC that some people are apparently too afraid of real social contact to actually let anyone hear their voice sounds like nerd logic to me.

Ok lets make this short and sweet shall we?

A: Does it matter?  Really?  Sometimes I don't want to talk on ventrillo.  It's as simple as that.  IRC is the happy medium between Forums and Ventrillo.  This does not mean I do not use Forums or Ventrillo.  I use them often.  This also does not mean I have to stop using IRC simply because you do not see the advantages.  Who are you in my life, eh? 

B: Not even going to bother with this one.  But you do have some points that I would not have argued against anyway.

C: The same could be said for ventrillo.  May I present... Ventrillo Harrassment.  And this is only one of many.

D: Playing to the crowd are we?  Now I know why you adore ventrillo so much.  You love the sound of your own voice, and want others to love it to...

Oh and by the by I would not have kicked you.  I allow others to have opinions and share them if they so wish.  You however (and this must be said) do not seem to appreciate the opinions of others, especially when they differ from your own.  Did you have a bad experience in IRC once upon a time?

E: Who are you to tell them that?  Let them do as they will.  It is their life.  You have no right to tell them to "get over it".

Originally posted by Gaunt2005

A: Does it matter?  Really?  Sometimes I don't want to talk on ventrillo.  Who are you in my life, eh? 

B: Not even going to bother with this one. 

C: The same could be said for ventrillo. 

D: Now I know why you adore ventrillo so much.  You love the sound of your own voice, and want others to love it to...

E: You have no right to tell them to "get over it".

So "short and sweet" is the way you want to do this, eh? You got it.

A: I'm nobody in your life. I'm proud to say that I have nothing to do with you and never will.

B: Because you know I'm right.

C: Anything can be abused by the right kind of asshat. You have demonstrated very well how this forum can be abused.

D: More insults? Thanks for confirming what I said about your attitude problem.

E: Free Speech.