Originally posted by Zorndorf

Originally posted by Gameloading

Originally posted by Zorndorf

Originally posted by Xasapis

@Zorndorf:

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but you mentioned doubling the servers, not adding a couple more for each region and language.

Even the added servers are still not enough though, at least for now. The thing is, no matter what the retention rate is, the game will lose people because of the queues. If I can only play a couple hours per day, I can't stay in the queue for 1.5hrs.

As much as I like the game, I can't recommend to my friends joining it considering the current state of servers.

 

Sorry to prove you wrong X,

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/3093949#3093949

In this post I predicted the following/

I quote: posted on Sep 17th .......!!! That was even before launch !!!!!

....
They will ADD servers in the first week of launch. Even will give you the number: around 6 US / 8 EU.

.... because you simply can't host 400K with 24 servers. It IS a marketing move.

....

Not bad from ol' Zorn ....:)))

In fact it is now at 4US/6 EU and like you said back then ... "what is that for a kind of marketing move."

They made exactly the same policy with the Korean launches. "We added 50% more servers"...

NOT difficult if a chimpansee could see their servers were just to few for the 400K people expected at launch.

I could give details how I do these counts and predictions, but I would be banned for trolling :)))

....greetings

 

Oh well that's pretty easy, you become a fanboy of WoW and simply predict every other game that isn't wow is crap and is going to fail. Obviously you're going to be right about some, wrong about others. As for Aion, it's starting to look like you're wrong. Ofcourse when NCsoft does announce the subscribers, I don't expect to see your face around here.

Good ol' Zorndorf just proved by Sep 17th even the (almost) exact count of servers added, even by region. Btw the numbers I gave were even a BETTER solution to their created "problem", because that would limit the queues.
 

So while I can't predict the thoughts in their heads, I could predict the servers needed.

Now here is a very very interesting statement found on the Aion website: they speak of unseen numbers ... that 60% of the players would be trying to log in at the same (prime) time.

Mmmm, interesting for my stats ... What is 60% of 400K first time at launch... I see, 240K ...

Of course since the 12/12 original servers could only serve around 180K at launch concurrently. That's 30% of the players waiting in the queues (add the shops - which can be easly relaunched every 30 minutes - ) and you can get nice of the way Xfire stats .... which don't make sense if you use the usual measuring stick of Wow-EVE-Lotro...

It all fits together. It really is. :))) And it is being confirmed by the minute.

Given Zorndorfs argued that the average age of Warcraft player is 30 in the past  I seriously doubt the accuracy anything he posts.
 

Hes a well know WoW fanbois ( proberbly the biggest in existance ) the fact he has felt the need to come into Aion forums speaks volumes . Hes worried because even he is noticing a drop in WoW players .

Originally posted by ronan32

Originally posted by metalhead980

Originally posted by Gameloading

Originally posted by metalhead980

Originally posted by Gameloading

Originally posted by Zorndorf

Originally posted by Xasapis

@Zorndorf:

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but you mentioned doubling the servers, not adding a couple more for each region and language.

Even the added servers are still not enough though, at least for now. The thing is, no matter what the retention rate is, the game will lose people because of the queues. If I can only play a couple hours per day, I can't stay in the queue for 1.5hrs.

As much as I like the game, I can't recommend to my friends joining it considering the current state of servers.

 

Sorry to prove you wrong X,

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/3093949#3093949

In this post I predicted the following/

I quote: posted on Sep 17th .......!!! That was even before launch !!!!!

....
They will ADD servers in the first week of launch. Even will give you the number: around 6 US / 8 EU.

.... because you simply can't host 400K with 24 servers. It IS a marketing move.

....

Not bad from ol' Zorn ....:)))

In fact it is now at 4US/6 EU and like you said back then ... "what is that for a kind of marketing move."

They made exactly the same policy with the Korean launches. "We added 50% more servers"...

NOT difficult if a chimpansee could see their servers were just to few for the 400K people expected at launch.

I could give details how I do these counts and predictions, but I would be banned for trolling :)))

....greetings

 

Oh well that's pretty easy, you become a fanboy of WoW and simply predict every other game that isn't wow is crap and is going to fail. Obviously you're going to be right about some, wrong about others. As for Aion, it's starting to look like you're wrong. Ofcourse when NCsoft does announce the subscribers, I don't expect to see your face around here.

As much as I hate to defend Zorn He's not a hater of every game besides WoW.

I've actually read decent things from him about Lotro and He doesnt seem to give Eve a hard time either besides saying its not his type of game.

Aion is just a pure F2p/Lineage Clone and all of you guys deserve Zorn in your thread after talking so much shit during Aions NA/Euro Beta.

Seriously If you just stfu about the game and not spam the forum you wouldnt be getting the shit you are now. Because its clear Aion is anything but the perfect game.

 

You clearly have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. The lineage series was a point & click, Open pvp clan politics,  grind driven game where it could take up to a year of hardcore playing to reach the cap. Aion is a WASD, Faction vs Faction, quest driven where 2 weeks into release people are already getting close to the level. Saying Aion is the same is ignorant.

 

Bullshit!!!! Aion runs on the god damn lineage engine. Just look at those fucking retarded character running animations with those female characters with their asses pushed out. Give me a fucking break already.

Stop being such a fanboy, you know this game runs on the lineage engine just like everyone else does.

As for the spamming of the forums im not talking about the fucking Aion forums, check back posts we got "AION will pAwnzzz all" posts in every forum from WAR to fucking off topic, you deserve this shut dude.

Have fun in your pathetic excuse for a game. Shit the fact that you defend all Korean games this hardcore makes every one of your opinions invalid.

Atleast Zorn defends a good game, unlike yourself.

It actually runs on the cryengine you idiot. maybe if you played the game you would know this.

Yet has the same Running animations and combat system as Lineage? yeah if this is true they tried really hard to copy Lineage II to a tee. It's a pathetic excuse for a engine imo. You can't deny the simalarities I don't give a shit what name they give the engine put the games side by side and you see the same exact running and combat animations. 

Originally posted by Zorndorf

Originally posted by Gameloading

Originally posted by Zorndorf

Good ol' Zorndorf just proved by Sep 17th even the (almost) exact count of servers added, even by region. Btw the numbers I gave were even a BETTER solution to their created "problem", because that would limit the queues.
 

So while I can't predict the thoughts in their heads, I could predict the servers needed.

Now here is a very very interesting statement found on the Aion website: they speak of unseen numbers ... that 60% of the players would be trying to log in at the same (prime) time.

Mmmm, interesting for my stats ... What is 60% of 400K first time at launch... I see, 240K ...

Of course since the 12/12 original servers could only serve around 180K at launch concurrently. That's 30% of the players waiting in the queues (add the shops - which can be easly relaunched every 30 minutes - ) and you can get nice of the way Xfire stats .... which don't make sense if you use the usual measuring stick of Wow-EVE-Lotro...

It all fits together. It really is. :))) And it is being confirmed by the minute.

Predicting to have new servers added is nothing exceptional. It's always very difficult to predict how many servers will be necessary and it's always safe to start with few and add more when necessary.

You seem to forget once more that you don't have any actual numbers.

 

W8 a minute I not only predicted the server numbers needed BY REGION BEFORE the launch.......but ... a month before Sep I predicted the launching numbers too :)))   ....400K.

If you reread my original posts on this I also stated why they DO this ... to create hype. Not only by creating messages like servers added btw.

----Now comes the difficult part ---> read on -----

The queuing lines (together with the on line shops) serve a complete other purpose (I forgot to mention) ... they boost Xfire playing sessions. How does it work ?...

@X ... what do you do when you can't log in?

You either wait ....(having the client run ....) or you quit the game, do something else and ... relog 30 minutes later.

Nice: ok having the client on adds ..." playing time" , quitting and re-entering makes for a number change in logging players . --> Actually the standard log off for SQL servers is 15 minutes after which a ... new IP session is opened.

So by deliberately letting queues happen, you up the stats of both playing time (which is at a ridiculous average 7Hours + for Aion now) AND add much more playing sessions.

How is that for a marketing move X? :))).

You can run the Xfire test with the WOW-EVE_Lotro always and come up within the 5M-300K-170K anytime (with a 10% accuracy). The moment you hit Aion: WOW it has 1.000.000 western players.... yep on ... 16/14 servers. :))))

Like I said: Xfire CAN be used, but only in reference to other variables (like sales samples and servers available). Aion is not even in the top 90 of video games on amazon.com. Both War and Aoc were there for weeks/months.

Happy chewing....

 

400k is not an unreasonable and something just about anyone could have guessed.

Moving on, If you seriously think that NCsoft cares about numbers on Xfire, you need a reality check. Companies don't care what Xfire says because Xfire isn't an accurate representation in any way or form.

Aion does not have 1 million western players. The game launched with 400k pre - orders. So in 2 weeks that would mean the game would shift 600 million copies. 1 million copies when the game is 2 weeks old, and thats just xfire numbers? For  a non big IP game? Very unlikely.

Amazon is not an accurate representation, nor does it have anything to do with the actual subject.

Originally posted by metalhead980

Originally posted by Gameloading

Originally posted by metalhead980

Originally posted by Gameloading

Originally posted by Zorndorf

Originally posted by Xasapis

@Zorndorf:

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but you mentioned doubling the servers, not adding a couple more for each region and language.

Even the added servers are still not enough though, at least for now. The thing is, no matter what the retention rate is, the game will lose people because of the queues. If I can only play a couple hours per day, I can't stay in the queue for 1.5hrs.

As much as I like the game, I can't recommend to my friends joining it considering the current state of servers.

 

Sorry to prove you wrong X,

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/3093949#3093949

In this post I predicted the following/

I quote: posted on Sep 17th .......!!! That was even before launch !!!!!

....
They will ADD servers in the first week of launch. Even will give you the number: around 6 US / 8 EU.

.... because you simply can't host 400K with 24 servers. It IS a marketing move.

....

Not bad from ol' Zorn ....:)))

In fact it is now at 4US/6 EU and like you said back then ... "what is that for a kind of marketing move."

They made exactly the same policy with the Korean launches. "We added 50% more servers"...

NOT difficult if a chimpansee could see their servers were just to few for the 400K people expected at launch.

I could give details how I do these counts and predictions, but I would be banned for trolling :)))

....greetings

 

Oh well that's pretty easy, you become a fanboy of WoW and simply predict every other game that isn't wow is crap and is going to fail. Obviously you're going to be right about some, wrong about others. As for Aion, it's starting to look like you're wrong. Ofcourse when NCsoft does announce the subscribers, I don't expect to see your face around here.

As much as I hate to defend Zorn He's not a hater of every game besides WoW.

I've actually read decent things from him about Lotro and He doesnt seem to give Eve a hard time either besides saying its not his type of game.

Aion is just a pure F2p/Lineage Clone and all of you guys deserve Zorn in your thread after talking so much shit during Aions NA/Euro Beta.

Seriously If you just stfu about the game and not spam the forum you wouldnt be getting the shit you are now. Because its clear Aion is anything but the perfect game.

 

You clearly have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. The lineage series was a point & click, Open pvp clan politics,  grind driven game where it could take up to a year of hardcore playing to reach the cap. Aion is a WASD, Faction vs Faction, quest driven where 2 weeks into release people are already getting close to the level. Saying Aion is the same is ignorant.

 

Bullshit!!!! Aion runs on the god damn lineage engine. Just look at those fucking retarded character running animations with those female characters with their asses pushed out. Give me a fucking break already.

Stop being such a fanboy, you know this game runs on the lineage engine just like everyone else does.

As for the spamming of the forums im not talking about the fucking Aion forums, check back posts we got "AION will pAwnzzz all" posts in every forum from WAR to fucking off topic, you deserve this shut dude.

Have fun in your pathetic excuse for a game. Shit the fact that you defend all Korean games this hardcore makes every one of your opinions invalid.

Atleast Zorn defends a good game, unlike yourself.

How clueless can you be? thanks for making me laugh, allways nice to read posts like yours.

Originally posted by metalhead980

Originally posted by ronan32

Originally posted by metalhead980

Originally posted by Gameloading

Originally posted by metalhead980

Originally posted by Gameloading

Originally posted by Zorndorf

Originally posted by Xasapis

@Zorndorf:

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but you mentioned doubling the servers, not adding a couple more for each region and language.

Even the added servers are still not enough though, at least for now. The thing is, no matter what the retention rate is, the game will lose people because of the queues. If I can only play a couple hours per day, I can't stay in the queue for 1.5hrs.

As much as I like the game, I can't recommend to my friends joining it considering the current state of servers.

 

Sorry to prove you wrong X,

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/3093949#3093949

In this post I predicted the following/

I quote: posted on Sep 17th .......!!! That was even before launch !!!!!

....
They will ADD servers in the first week of launch. Even will give you the number: around 6 US / 8 EU.

.... because you simply can't host 400K with 24 servers. It IS a marketing move.

....

Not bad from ol' Zorn ....:)))

In fact it is now at 4US/6 EU and like you said back then ... "what is that for a kind of marketing move."

They made exactly the same policy with the Korean launches. "We added 50% more servers"...

NOT difficult if a chimpansee could see their servers were just to few for the 400K people expected at launch.

I could give details how I do these counts and predictions, but I would be banned for trolling :)))

....greetings

 

Oh well that's pretty easy, you become a fanboy of WoW and simply predict every other game that isn't wow is crap and is going to fail. Obviously you're going to be right about some, wrong about others. As for Aion, it's starting to look like you're wrong. Ofcourse when NCsoft does announce the subscribers, I don't expect to see your face around here.

As much as I hate to defend Zorn He's not a hater of every game besides WoW.

I've actually read decent things from him about Lotro and He doesnt seem to give Eve a hard time either besides saying its not his type of game.

Aion is just a pure F2p/Lineage Clone and all of you guys deserve Zorn in your thread after talking so much shit during Aions NA/Euro Beta.

Seriously If you just stfu about the game and not spam the forum you wouldnt be getting the shit you are now. Because its clear Aion is anything but the perfect game.

 

You clearly have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. The lineage series was a point & click, Open pvp clan politics,  grind driven game where it could take up to a year of hardcore playing to reach the cap. Aion is a WASD, Faction vs Faction, quest driven where 2 weeks into release people are already getting close to the level. Saying Aion is the same is ignorant.

 

Bullshit!!!! Aion runs on the god damn lineage engine. Just look at those fucking retarded character running animations with those female characters with their asses pushed out. Give me a fucking break already.

Stop being such a fanboy, you know this game runs on the lineage engine just like everyone else does.

As for the spamming of the forums im not talking about the fucking Aion forums, check back posts we got "AION will pAwnzzz all" posts in every forum from WAR to fucking off topic, you deserve this shut dude.

Have fun in your pathetic excuse for a game. Shit the fact that you defend all Korean games this hardcore makes every one of your opinions invalid.

Atleast Zorn defends a good game, unlike yourself.

It actually runs on the cryengine you idiot. maybe if you played the game you would know this.

Yet has the same Running animations and combat system as Lineage? yeah if this is true they tried really hard to copy Lineage II to a tee. It's a pathetic excuse for a engine imo. You can't deny the simalarities I don't give a shit what name they give the engine put the games side by side and you see the same exact running and combat animations. 

Will you stop making a fool out of yourself?

The combat animations look completely different, Lineage 2's combat animations are fairly realistic. Aion's combat animations are clearly over the top. Even a blind monkey can notice the difference. It doesn't have the combat system of Lineage either. Lineage 2 you usually only use 2 or 3 skills on a mob. in Aion, you use about 7 or 8 slightly depending on which class you play. It also has a combo system which Lineage 2 doesn't have.

Originally posted by Gameloading

Originally posted by metalhead980

Originally posted by ronan32

Originally posted by metalhead980

Originally posted by Gameloading

Originally posted by metalhead980

Originally posted by Gameloading

Originally posted by Zorndorf

Originally posted by Xasapis

@Zorndorf:

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but you mentioned doubling the servers, not adding a couple more for each region and language.

Even the added servers are still not enough though, at least for now. The thing is, no matter what the retention rate is, the game will lose people because of the queues. If I can only play a couple hours per day, I can't stay in the queue for 1.5hrs.

As much as I like the game, I can't recommend to my friends joining it considering the current state of servers.

 

Sorry to prove you wrong X,

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/3093949#3093949

In this post I predicted the following/

I quote: posted on Sep 17th .......!!! That was even before launch !!!!!

....
They will ADD servers in the first week of launch. Even will give you the number: around 6 US / 8 EU.

.... because you simply can't host 400K with 24 servers. It IS a marketing move.

....

Not bad from ol' Zorn ....:)))

In fact it is now at 4US/6 EU and like you said back then ... "what is that for a kind of marketing move."

They made exactly the same policy with the Korean launches. "We added 50% more servers"...

NOT difficult if a chimpansee could see their servers were just to few for the 400K people expected at launch.

I could give details how I do these counts and predictions, but I would be banned for trolling :)))

....greetings

 

Oh well that's pretty easy, you become a fanboy of WoW and simply predict every other game that isn't wow is crap and is going to fail. Obviously you're going to be right about some, wrong about others. As for Aion, it's starting to look like you're wrong. Ofcourse when NCsoft does announce the subscribers, I don't expect to see your face around here.

As much as I hate to defend Zorn He's not a hater of every game besides WoW.

I've actually read decent things from him about Lotro and He doesnt seem to give Eve a hard time either besides saying its not his type of game.

Aion is just a pure F2p/Lineage Clone and all of you guys deserve Zorn in your thread after talking so much shit during Aions NA/Euro Beta.

Seriously If you just stfu about the game and not spam the forum you wouldnt be getting the shit you are now. Because its clear Aion is anything but the perfect game.

 

You clearly have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. The lineage series was a point & click, Open pvp clan politics,  grind driven game where it could take up to a year of hardcore playing to reach the cap. Aion is a WASD, Faction vs Faction, quest driven where 2 weeks into release people are already getting close to the level. Saying Aion is the same is ignorant.

 

Bullshit!!!! Aion runs on the god damn lineage engine. Just look at those fucking retarded character running animations with those female characters with their asses pushed out. Give me a fucking break already.

Stop being such a fanboy, you know this game runs on the lineage engine just like everyone else does.

As for the spamming of the forums im not talking about the fucking Aion forums, check back posts we got "AION will pAwnzzz all" posts in every forum from WAR to fucking off topic, you deserve this shut dude.

Have fun in your pathetic excuse for a game. Shit the fact that you defend all Korean games this hardcore makes every one of your opinions invalid.

Atleast Zorn defends a good game, unlike yourself.

It actually runs on the cryengine you idiot. maybe if you played the game you would know this.

Yet has the same Running animations and combat system as Lineage? yeah if this is true they tried really hard to copy Lineage II to a tee. It's a pathetic excuse for a engine imo. You can't deny the simalarities I don't give a shit what name they give the engine put the games side by side and you see the same exact running and combat animations. 

Will you stop making a fool out of yourself?

The combat animations look completely different, Lineage 2's combat animations are fairly realistic. Aion's combat animations are clearly over the top. Even a blind monkey can notice the difference.

Do I really need to post the ass in the air running animations of the females for you to admit im right? seriously you fanbots are pathetic lol.

Don't trust XFire, not everyone uses it.  So it's not a accurate way to measure players.

Originally posted by metalhead980

Originally posted by Gameloading

Originally posted by metalhead980

Originally posted by ronan32

Originally posted by metalhead980

Originally posted by Gameloading

Originally posted by metalhead980

Originally posted by Gameloading

Originally posted by Zorndorf

Originally posted by Xasapis

@Zorndorf:

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but you mentioned doubling the servers, not adding a couple more for each region and language.

Even the added servers are still not enough though, at least for now. The thing is, no matter what the retention rate is, the game will lose people because of the queues. If I can only play a couple hours per day, I can't stay in the queue for 1.5hrs.

As much as I like the game, I can't recommend to my friends joining it considering the current state of servers.

 

Sorry to prove you wrong X,

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/3093949#3093949

In this post I predicted the following/

I quote: posted on Sep 17th .......!!! That was even before launch !!!!!

....
They will ADD servers in the first week of launch. Even will give you the number: around 6 US / 8 EU.

.... because you simply can't host 400K with 24 servers. It IS a marketing move.

....

Not bad from ol' Zorn ....:)))

In fact it is now at 4US/6 EU and like you said back then ... "what is that for a kind of marketing move."

They made exactly the same policy with the Korean launches. "We added 50% more servers"...

NOT difficult if a chimpansee could see their servers were just to few for the 400K people expected at launch.

I could give details how I do these counts and predictions, but I would be banned for trolling :)))

....greetings

 

Oh well that's pretty easy, you become a fanboy of WoW and simply predict every other game that isn't wow is crap and is going to fail. Obviously you're going to be right about some, wrong about others. As for Aion, it's starting to look like you're wrong. Ofcourse when NCsoft does announce the subscribers, I don't expect to see your face around here.

As much as I hate to defend Zorn He's not a hater of every game besides WoW.

I've actually read decent things from him about Lotro and He doesnt seem to give Eve a hard time either besides saying its not his type of game.

Aion is just a pure F2p/Lineage Clone and all of you guys deserve Zorn in your thread after talking so much shit during Aions NA/Euro Beta.

Seriously If you just stfu about the game and not spam the forum you wouldnt be getting the shit you are now. Because its clear Aion is anything but the perfect game.

 

You clearly have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. The lineage series was a point & click, Open pvp clan politics,  grind driven game where it could take up to a year of hardcore playing to reach the cap. Aion is a WASD, Faction vs Faction, quest driven where 2 weeks into release people are already getting close to the level. Saying Aion is the same is ignorant.

 

Bullshit!!!! Aion runs on the god damn lineage engine. Just look at those fucking retarded character running animations with those female characters with their asses pushed out. Give me a fucking break already.

Stop being such a fanboy, you know this game runs on the lineage engine just like everyone else does.

As for the spamming of the forums im not talking about the fucking Aion forums, check back posts we got "AION will pAwnzzz all" posts in every forum from WAR to fucking off topic, you deserve this shut dude.

Have fun in your pathetic excuse for a game. Shit the fact that you defend all Korean games this hardcore makes every one of your opinions invalid.

Atleast Zorn defends a good game, unlike yourself.

It actually runs on the cryengine you idiot. maybe if you played the game you would know this.

Yet has the same Running animations and combat system as Lineage? yeah if this is true they tried really hard to copy Lineage II to a tee. It's a pathetic excuse for a engine imo. You can't deny the simalarities I don't give a shit what name they give the engine put the games side by side and you see the same exact running and combat animations. 

Will you stop making a fool out of yourself?

The combat animations look completely different, Lineage 2's combat animations are fairly realistic. Aion's combat animations are clearly over the top. Even a blind monkey can notice the difference.

Do I really need to post the ass in the air running animations of the females for you to admit im right? seriously you fanbots are pathetic lol.

Do I need to post a combat comparisson that shows a clear difference in style? The only running animations that are obviously similar are the dark elves (1 race) and Asmodians. All other races run pretty tyupical because there are only so many ways you can run.

I'm the ones that's pathetic?

You thought an open pvp game where it takes up to a year of dedicated grinding was the same as a faction vs faction pvp game which features lots of quests and where people are near the level cap in 2 weeks.

You didn't even know the games used two entirely different engines.

Seriously, why are you still posting in this thread? It's clear that you know nothing about the game and people keep making fun of you and you don't seem to be interested in educating yourself or playing the game, so what are you doing here? You're just insulting anybody who doesn't agree with your silly Korean mmorpg stereotype. Stop being a troll.

What exactly are you arguing about? That NCsoft toned down the player shops from the default 24hrs to 30mins so they look better on Xfire due to more logins happening per player? This would hold any ground, if Xfire was a major marketing tool. Alas, very few people use and even fewer care about the statistics involved.

It is more likely that they lowered the shop time to appease all those that complained about the asshats making shops with messages like "I made a shop and you waited in line sucker". Perhaps the shops have an impact on the queue times, perhaps they don't. But it was a good marketing move to show that they responded to people's requests. Not to inflate the statistics of an addon most people care little about (even in our nerdy community).

Besides, what's how many hours people are playing have to do with popularity? So a game with 100 people playing for 30mins is less popular than one played by 10 people for 10 hours? Doesn't xfire count people playing, or it just counts hours played?

All haters keep on saying that people say Aion will kill wow but I haven't seen that line in months were the hell are you seeing it? or your pretending on seeing it to keep on flaming?

All I saw about the east is that they say it didn't fail there and about population NOTHING ABOUT WOW.

Or at least show some links were those "wow killer" posts are please? I haven't seen them and so did many.

Originally posted by Zorndorf

@Metalhead.

So (some) people like Aion. Let them be.

The only problem I have is the very hyped up screwed number of players, while NCsoft hardly says a word.

FOR MONTHS these guys keep yelling the same slogans....

"It kiled Wow in the east". "It has 3.5 M players in the east" .... without ANY official NCSoft back up of any kind.

"Our servers are full", .... not too difficult if you know they could handle only 180K concurrently on line at launch.

THAT's what's pissing me off.

And btw: if WOW would come down from the throne, due to SW or an excellent ST I would applaud.

But it will HAVE to be an ORIGINAL game that will take that deserved position. That doesn't need to be hyped through false statements BEFORE launch.

The highlighted text is the only reason someone like me would even lower myself and speak on this themepark forum.

I have my own Issues with WoW but the way the Aion posters on this site have acted they deserve it. Anyway im going to go back and discuss games I actually enjoy that are clearly better. Later Zorn.

Good luck with that. I don't think you'll find an MMO whose followers haven't started a "WoW killer" thread, no matter how niche or small that MMO is. It happened and it will keep on happening. Instead of getting annoyed by it, you should instead be satisfied that for all intents and purposes every game coming out is trying (unsuccessfully) to measure up.

By the way. Star Trek is an RMT item mall game, similar to Champions Online. And SW:TOR for the little we know so far, is a glorified Mass Effect in Star Wars universe. Lets hope I'm proven wrong of course.

Originally posted by metalhead980

...

The highlighted text is the only reason someone like me would even lower myself and speak on this themepark forum.

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After a comment such as this, I automatically go and check the poster's age. I know, I can't gauge maturity by age, I just hope these thoughtless comments don't originate from a person in my own age bracket.

Originally posted by metalhead980

Yet has the same Running animations and combat system as Lineage? yeah if this is true they tried really hard to copy Lineage II to a tee. It's a pathetic excuse for a engine imo. You can't deny the simalarities I don't give a shit what name they give the engine put the games side by side and you see the same exact running and combat animations. 

Yeahhhh...umm...I think you need to go try out the video game Crysis first then come back and say its engine is shitty...=/

Anyways let the Aion fans enjoy their moment in this thread while it lasts.

I don't know if they'll be singing the same tune in a month or two.....>>

Originally posted by Zorndorf

@Metalhead.

So (some) people like Aion. Let them be.

The only problem I have is the very hyped up screwed number of players, while NCsoft hardly says a word.

FOR MONTHS these guys keep yelling the same slogans....

"It kiled Wow in the east". "It has 3.5 M players in the east" .... without ANY official NCSoft back up of any kind.

"Our servers are full", .... not too difficult if you know they could handle only 180K concurrently on line at launch.

THAT's what's pissing me off.

And btw: if WOW would come down from the throne, due to SW or an excellent ST I would applaud.

But it will HAVE to be an ORIGINAL game that will take that deserved position. That doesn't need to be hyped through false statements BEFORE launch.

The 3.5 million number comes from an IGN website. IGN mentions the number in an article that's about the Australian distributer, Obviously the australian distributor knows these numbers because it's important information on making a deal to distribute the game.

NCsoft never confirmed it but they never denied it. To say it's false or a lie is a huge assumption on your part, especially when there are enough servers to justify a 3.5 million playerbase.

180k concurrent users at launch, yes, with people living in very different timezones.
To suggest it's a marketing ploy is downright hilarious. Since when is having known that you have to wait 2 hours before you even get to play the game a good advertisement? If they want to let people wait in que so badly, why did they make the change on shops?

Jackie08: Crysis doesn't use the same engine Aion does. Aion is running on the first Cryengine, which was also used for Far Cry. Crysis runs on the Cry Engine 2.0

The official statement regarding the state of the game and the immediate steps to rectify the current most pressing issues can be found in the link below. It talks about about their own population projections as well..

uk.aiononline.com/board/notices/view

Originally posted by Jackio81

Originally posted by metalhead980

Yet has the same Running animations and combat system as Lineage? yeah if this is true they tried really hard to copy Lineage II to a tee. It's a pathetic excuse for a engine imo. You can't deny the simalarities I don't give a shit what name they give the engine put the games side by side and you see the same exact running and combat animations. 

 

Yeahhhh...umm...I think you need to go try out the video game Crysis first then come back and say its engine is shitty...=/

Anyways let the Aion fans enjoy their moment in this thread while it lasts.

I don't know if they'll be singing the same tune in a month or two.....>>

Um guys I hate say this but Aion did not use the Crysis engine.... it uses the engine used in Farcry.

Originally posted by Jackio81
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Anyways let the Aion fans enjoy their moment in this thread while it lasts.

I don't know if they'll be singing the same tune in a month or two.....>>

I can agree to that, the life span of the game, as far as I'm concerned, is yet to be decided.

Originally posted by MNZeba

Originally posted by Jackio81

Originally posted by metalhead980

Yet has the same Running animations and combat system as Lineage? yeah if this is true they tried really hard to copy Lineage II to a tee. It's a pathetic excuse for a engine imo. You can't deny the simalarities I don't give a shit what name they give the engine put the games side by side and you see the same exact running and combat animations. 

 

Yeahhhh...umm...I think you need to go try out the video game Crysis first then come back and say its engine is shitty...=/

Anyways let the Aion fans enjoy their moment in this thread while it lasts.

I don't know if they'll be singing the same tune in a month or two.....>>

Um guys I hate say this but Aion did not use the Crysis engine.... it uses the engine used in Farcry.

Oh yeah it's not the 2nd version....

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meh can't wait to see the 3rd engine when Crysis 2 comes out...=D

Originally posted by Jackio81

Originally posted by MNZeba

Originally posted by Jackio81

Originally posted by metalhead980

Yet has the same Running animations and combat system as Lineage? yeah if this is true they tried really hard to copy Lineage II to a tee. It's a pathetic excuse for a engine imo. You can't deny the simalarities I don't give a shit what name they give the engine put the games side by side and you see the same exact running and combat animations. 

 

Yeahhhh...umm...I think you need to go try out the video game Crysis first then come back and say its engine is shitty...=/

Anyways let the Aion fans enjoy their moment in this thread while it lasts.

I don't know if they'll be singing the same tune in a month or two.....>>

Um guys I hate say this but Aion did not use the Crysis engine.... it uses the engine used in Farcry.

Oh yeah it's not the 2nd version....

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meh can't wait to see the 3rd engine when Crysis 2 comes out...=D

Isn't that just a dumbed down Cry Engine 2.0 made to run on mid end systems and consoles?