Originally posted by MMO_Doubter

Originally posted by Palebane

It would be nice to see loot upgrades take a backseat to community and loyalty.  I envision a faction based PvP game where everyone on a faction works together so that everyone benefits equally. And of course they would work together to stop the opposing factions.

That's what Warhammer was supposed to be. Which is why I was so excited before release.

It never happened. Virtually everything was some loot grind.

I agree. It would also be nice to have more than 2 or 3 factions. Like Horizons was supposed to be or how Fallen Earth would have been if there was no faction hopping.

Originally posted by MMO_Doubter

Originally posted by Palebane

It would be nice to see loot upgrades take a backseat to community and loyalty.  I envision a faction based PvP game where everyone on a faction works together so that everyone benefits equally. And of course they would work together to stop the opposing factions.

That's what Warhammer was supposed to be. Which is why I was so excited before release.

It never happened. Virtually everything was some loot grind.

This sounds an awful lot like wishfully thinking Communism would work, without comprehending that that's just not how humans are wired. 

Originally posted by Axehilt

This sounds an awful lot like wishfully thinking Communism would work, without comprehending that that's just not how humans are wired. 

Very interesting article - though I'd be more impressed if there weren't pictures of chimpanzees when monkeys are being discussed.

I must be one amazing monkey, as I think of every human as a person, rather than a thing.

Thanks for the link.

Warhammer must have been designed by very small-minded monkeys, indeed.

Did you ever read 'Stranger in a Strange Land' or 'The Selfish Gene'?

I wouldnt really change anything. Cause for as long as there are MMO's there will be grinding,leveling, and imature and unskilled players. And thats the way I like my MMOs.

It would have to be cutting down on the solo content. To say 60/40 solo /grouping. 

One changes just isn't enough.

First I would change the focus of mmo development from gear centric to character development and while doing this I think it would also be a good time to get rid of class/level system.

Second I think they should stop designing mmo around the holy trinity.

Originally posted by Axehilt

Originally posted by MMO_Doubter

Originally posted by Palebane

It would be nice to see loot upgrades take a backseat to community and loyalty.  I envision a faction based PvP game where everyone on a faction works together so that everyone benefits equally. And of course they would work together to stop the opposing factions.

That's what Warhammer was supposed to be. Which is why I was so excited before release.

It never happened. Virtually everything was some loot grind.

 

This sounds an awful lot like wishfully thinking Communism would work, without comprehending that that's just not how humans are wired. 

Ok, so humans are inherently selfish and greedy creatures.  What's to stop a video game from giving incentives to work together. After all, humans are determined to survive. It's instinct. So if you HAD to rely on others in order to survive, that's not really communism. They could make it fun and interesting to help out your faction without having some stupid item rewards. Status would be a mutual conglomerate, not an individual e-peen contest.

Originally posted by Palebane 

Ok, so humans are inherently selfish and greedy creatures.  What's to stop a video game from giving incentives to work together. After all, humans are determined to survive. It's instinct. So if you HAD to rely on others in order to survive, that's not really communism. They could make it fun and interesting to help out your faction without having some stupid item rewards. Status would be a mutual conglomerate, not an individual e-peen contest.

That is a very sound observation.

It is co-operation which caused Humanity to become the dominant species. An individual Human is a pretty feeble creature, compared to the competition.

It's true that small groups tend to co-operate better than large ones. Both in real life, and in MMOs.

A mob of the same level that can kill me, or make me screem for my mommy. Loot drops that make sents, dogs don't carrie swords.