Originally posted by mortharx

Originally posted by Jackcolt

Windows 7 is good and all, but it STILL has issues

I suppose thats why it's in beta still ? I mean there's tons of manufacturers there's always someone's hardware that doesn't work properly and it needs to be perfected with software to balance it.

Version I used was RTM.

I tried the windows 7 beta and rc version i installed it and i love the features even though it's like the upgraded vista. but my major problem then is the compatibility with some of the application. but it's good somehow. ^^

Originally posted by Jackcolt

The final release has been available for pirates for some time now.

I did use windows 7 for a couple of days, but it's audiodg.exe process would randomly take up a full core. The only reason I know is because I monitor the system performance, didn't actually notice any slow downs when playing (Got a pretty good rig). It's enough of a problem to annoy me to going to Vista x64. Furthermore there are a few drivers not working correctly, such as drivers for the Razer Lycosa. Windows 7 is good and all, but it STILL has issues, unlike what some people choose to think. It's also going to roughly a year before it's as stable as Vista is now.

 

I do like the new taskbar. It's awesome.

Bad advice there.

The audiodg.exe issue you were having is due to an old Creative driver. You'd have the exact same issue on a fresh Vista install without a driver update. Creative has a section now dedicated to Windows 7 drivers and you shouldn't have such an issue; even if you do, then its still a rather known bug with the driver, not Windows 7 or Vista for that matter.

The same goes with drivers for your Razer Lycosa, Windows 7 compatible ones have already been released.

If anyone were dabbling around with a pirated version prior to release then they'd really have no business complaining, since manufacturers had no obligations to release drivers prior to RTM on account of that kind of activity. That said, most of 'em like Creative and Razer mentioned here do have Windows 7 targeted drivers out now, but at the same time the OS isn't so finicky that drivers for Vista and XP haven't been working without a hitch for it.

Anyway, take "roughly a year" for what? You'd have to specify something actually wrong with it to make that claim.

Thanks for the information. ^^

Originally posted by Godliest

Microsoft are truly clever.

• 1. Get monopoly.
• 2. Release a new operating system that's bad in every kind of way, except one: the visuals. So that everyone who looks at it will think "fuck, I need to upgrade to that".
• 3. Quit supporting the previous operating system. Now there's no return.
• 4. Patience. Wait while more and more people are getting the new operating system, and realize that it's bad in every kind of way except one.
• 5. Show this awesome operating system that will fix all of the previous programs errors and which will be much better in every way!
• 6. Provide a free beta and everyone with the old bad operating system (that's bad in every kind of way except one) will get it and praise it because they're comparing it to their current, bad, operating system.
• 7. The ones who didn't buy the new, bad, operating system will only hear good things and go buy the new operating system. The ones who bought the new, bad, operating system will essentially be forced to buy it, and love it.

The results is that everyone will forget about that little incident with the bad operating system and instead start loving Microsoft for how good the new one is, plus that Microsoft manages to make everyone upgrade (except my school which of course won't be able to afford it so it will have to stick to Windows 2000). Very clever.

It's less of Microsoft being clever and more of you being a clueless idiot.

I've been using the final version of Windows 7 Pro for over a month now, and just like I don't get all of the scorn for Vista, I don't get all of the love for the half assed hack job that 7 is.

I used from when it's early release until when the Windows 7 RTM was released to technet, and it was nothing but a pure pleasure.  It ran fast and is by far the most stable OS I've ever used. (and I've used a lot)  Windows 7 has been a mixed bag.  So far for office computers it has been great.  It runs fast and stable.  Gaming though has been a completely different story.

I reformatted my home computer for the first time since I got it years ago replacing Vista Ultimate with 7 pro.  It ended up being such a mess I ended up giving up on it, something that I never do with computers, and switched it with my work computer, a brand new core i7 build.  Well, that confirmed that it wasn't the hardware.  It's rare to play any game without some kind of crash, often weird ones where it just exits the game without any warning or error to be found.  It's hard to fix problems when they are not recognized as errors.  These are all games that always ran perfectly in Vista.

Then again, anyone who knows computers can see the snake oil dripped all over Vista.  Microsoft realized the average user is to ignorant to realize that it's not a bad idea for ram to be used.  Memory management was done so well in Vista, but the average user was clueless, so Microsoft did a half assed hack job to make ram usage show as lower when 7 is idle.  Everyone is happy as the average user is happy to see their ram go to waste, and they are certainly not going to notice how much quicker their rams fills up with they are actually doing stuff.  I multi-task a lot at work, and while I could easily get by with 4 gigs of ram in Vista, with 7 my computer chugs to a near halt with a full load unless I have a minimum of 6 gig.

Are their improvements in 7?  Yes.  Are there as many steps backwards?  Definately.  A lot of the ideas are good, and Microsoft is trying to go in the right direction.  Maybe they'll get there in a service pack or in Windows 8, but anyone expecting the miracle changes that everyone is touting is going to be very dissapointed when they install that final version of windows 7

   After years of basically limping along on XP I find it gratifying to be using Windows 7. Finally being able to use up all that ddr3 ram has been such a joy! I personally haven't ran into any issues with drivers so maybe Im just lucky with that. At the moment though after using Vista as work and W7 at home, Id pick W7. As Philly said though, W7 has its flaws and they cant be ignored. With time though I think it will prove to be one of MS best OS to date.

Well thanks for that info. guys..

I'll try using windows 7 again i hope that i won't have the same prob again.

but aside from the compatibility this OS is really great. ^^

Originally posted by Techleo

   After years of basically limping along on XP I find it gratifying to be using Windows 7. Finally being able to use up all that ddr3 ram has been such a joy! I personally haven't ran into any issues with drivers so maybe Im just lucky with that. At the moment though after using Vista as work and W7 at home, Id pick W7. As Philly said though, W7 has its flaws and they cant be ignored. With time though I think it will prove to be one of MS best OS to date.

Xp being the best OS still to date, how can you be limping along? unless your on a terrible rig?

Maybe I'm just being very dim...

Anyway, I also like 7 but still prefer XP. Though I'll probably end up going over to Windows 7, but only after a couple of months after official release on the 22nd.

9.10.13

Gamer's W7

W7 at us$30 for students, Home or Pro, 32 or 64b version through download (d/l) until 3 Jan 2010. ref or free (MSDNAA students)

To see if your computer can run W7.
For quick reference, here are the Windows 7 System Requirements:
- 1GHz or faster 32-bit (x86) or 64-bit (x64) processor
- 1GB RAM (32-bit) / 2GB RAM (64-bit)
- 16GB available disk space (32-bit) / 20 GB (64-bit)
- DirectX 9 graphics device with WDDM 1.0 or higher driver

for d/l size, consider the ISO file 32b W7 Release Candidate was 2.35GB and the 64b was 3.04GB.

One will need a clean install going from Wxp to W7.

XP is much comportable and user friendly^^