Originally posted by greed0104

Originally posted by Sabiancym

 

 

The MMO Gamer: So then, can you put it in context? What’s the experience going to be for the average player, the breakdown between time spent doing essentially solo activities versus group based ones?

 

Blaine Christine: That’s entirely up to you. We want to cater to different play styles.

Our intent is to make the game entirely solo-able.  If you want to go through and solo, if you’re that type of player, you can play it as essentially a single-player experience.

Of course, you’re going to have other people running around you when you’re in the areas like Hutta, just like you would in any other MMO.

But if you choose to pursue the story on your own, you can do that.

Similarly, if you’re a social gamer, and your core gameplay is you want to get into the game, play with your guild, group up with a bunch of people, and either just do combat or do quests together, we’re going to have a lot of opportunities for group quests so that you can do that.

I got a question the other day, “Hey, if I’m really into more the crafting, harvesting, auction house type of gameplay, are you going to support that?” Absolutely.

If you want to spend a lot of time in the game being great at crafting—we  haven’t talked about the specifics yet, but we’re going to have an entire system like you would expect—you’ll be able to play the game of crafting, harvesting, selling things on the auction house, do that type of gameplay, as well.

 

 

 

FAIL

Supporting player choice is fail?

So this basically said. We support Solo Players, We support group players, We support crafting and will deliver an experience you would expect.

Sounds like a success to me, and if they pull it off, I could see it being a major financial success as well.

First off people, YES! THIS GAME WILL BE SINGLE PLAYER ORIENTED! You can complain and whine as much as you want but it is clear on how they talk about the game and it is also written that they want it to be very solo friendly. Just cause something is solo friendly does not mean it can't have other players running around or have group interaction. Yes, it will still be an MMO.

Really, there is nothing to argue about it is a hybrid. It can be a solo game yet it can also be an mmo if you decide to play with friends. If you get bored of PvE and your solo adventures. You can go to a PvP planet and fight other players till your starwars heart desires.  

Originally posted by Odela

Is there a reason?

Is it because we haven't seen anything massive yet?  Or because people think doing the main story is all there is to the game?


They've announced that there will be massive PvP fights and raids, as well as endgame when you complete the story.  Why are people still calling it a single player oriented MMO?

Indeed with so little info out at this time everyone has a right to speculate but I'm of the mind that the letters should be taken literally and if a game has those components it is not my place to say it isn't.  Some games I've played like AOC,COH,GW and even others have had instanced zones where all the players in that zone still may not be on the same map and while this particular design method is a negative to me I don't presume to argue the merits of wether these games are "really" mmo's or not, for most who make this argument they try so hard to be smart they just look dumb when you fail to take the letters exactly as they are meant massive,multiplayer,online,roleplaying,game.  Nothing in that really leaves interpretation it doesn't mean unless it is less than four people in the world, it doesn't say if the world exists in separate shards or servers.

  We know though many will have lot's of different answers some having absolutely nothing to do with wether the game is even an mmo but again it's hard to say truly how this game is goiong to be implimented until we learn more.

Originally posted by greed0104

Originally posted by Sabiancym

 

 

The MMO Gamer: So then, can you put it in context? What’s the experience going to be for the average player, the breakdown between time spent doing essentially solo activities versus group based ones?

 

Blaine Christine: That’s entirely up to you. We want to cater to different play styles.

Our intent is to make the game entirely solo-able.  If you want to go through and solo, if you’re that type of player, you can play it as essentially a single-player experience.

Of course, you’re going to have other people running around you when you’re in the areas like Hutta, just like you would in any other MMO.

But if you choose to pursue the story on your own, you can do that.

Similarly, if you’re a social gamer, and your core gameplay is you want to get into the game, play with your guild, group up with a bunch of people, and either just do combat or do quests together, we’re going to have a lot of opportunities for group quests so that you can do that.

I got a question the other day, “Hey, if I’m really into more the crafting, harvesting, auction house type of gameplay, are you going to support that?” Absolutely.

If you want to spend a lot of time in the game being great at crafting—we  haven’t talked about the specifics yet, but we’re going to have an entire system like you would expect—you’ll be able to play the game of crafting, harvesting, selling things on the auction house, do that type of gameplay, as well.

 

 

 

FAIL

Supporting player choice is fail?

So this basically said. We support Solo Players, We support group players, We support crafting and will deliver an experience you would expect.

Sounds like a success to me, and if they pull it off, I could see it being a major financial success as well.

It's not supporting group players when solo players can achieve the exact same thing without the effort needed to coordinate with a group.  It diminishes the accomplishment of groups and takes away the community aspect of the game.

It's almost forced solo play.

Person A:  "Does anyone want to go do *Insert raid/quest/mission*"

Person B: "LOL, just go do it by yourself."

Person A: "But I want to do it with other people"

Person B: "I can solo it faster."

If they add a system where grouped players can achieve more than solo players, I'll be content.  But if someone can complete every part of the game by themselves, what is the point of it being an mmo.  It might as well be KOTOR III with a chat room.

Originally posted by Odela

Is there a reason?

Is it because we haven't seen anything massive yet?  Or because people think doing the main story is all there is to the game?


They've announced that there will be massive PvP fights and raids, as well as endgame when you complete the story.  Why are people still calling it a single player oriented MMO?

Ill tell you why,it's because of comments like this..

Read what she says, she dosent say "you can solo most of the game" she actually says..

The MMO Gamer: So then, can you put it in context? What’s the experience going to be for the average player, the breakdown between time spent doing essentially solo activities versus group based ones?

Blaine Christine: That’s entirely up to you. We want to cater to different play styles.

Our intent is to make the game entirely solo-able. If you want to go through and solo, if you’re that type of player, you can play it as essentially a single-player experience.

Of course, you’re going to have other people running around you when you’re in the areas like Hutta, just like you would in any other MMO.

But if you choose to pursue the story on your own, you can do that.

She has just sait "we intend to make the ENTIRE GAME SOLO-ABLE,these are her words,it's their in black& white..

Read the whole thing here...

www.mmogamer.com/10/18/2009/bioware-blaine-christine-the-old-republic

I dont remember seeing jango fett getting 40 friends to track down a jedi. I never seen 100 jedis go out and kill some sith guy. Jedis work in pairs, and even mace windu only took 3 jedis with him for sidious, a sith lord. do you nay sayers even wanna play a star wars game or EQ with lightsabers? and before you pull that coliseum fight in Episode 2 on me, grats, you just proved me right. there was no grouping there, just a huge free for all. kinda like a battleground. or a unreal tournament deathmatch.

On the flipside, even if this game turns out to be kotor 3 with co-op, i will still play it and absolutely love it! and so will my (few) friends.

Originally posted by Sabiancym

It's not supporting group players when solo players can achieve the exact same thing without the effort needed to coordinate with a group.  It diminishes the accomplishment of groups and takes away the community aspect of the game.

You have absolutely no clue what will be achievable while solo and neither do I, other then you can go from 1 to level cap. I highly doubt the gear you receive that required a group will be obtainable solo.

When you say takes away the community aspect, you mean since they arn't being forced to participate it kills it completely? During my time in WoW, another solo friendly game, I was constantly grouping and socializing, For a few reasons, Dungeons/Raids, Quests, PvP, to help people, for the hell of it.

It's almost forced solo play.

Person A:  "Does anyone want to go do *Insert raid/quest/mission*"

Person B: "LOL, just go do it by yourself."

Person A: "But I want to do it with other people"

Person B: "I can solo it faster."

Let's try another.

Person A: Does anyone want to do this group mission (links mission)?

Person B: Yeah I need that one. Throw an invite.

Person A: Anybody else?

Please at least play a damn quest based MMO before you make wild assumptions that every single quest is absolutely soloable. You actually need people for some, and as they have said, there will be plenty group content and quests that are not soloable unless you have a good range of levels on the quest.

 

If they add a system where grouped players can achieve more than solo players, I'll be content.  But if someone can complete every part of the game by themselves, what is the point of it being an mmo.  It might as well be KOTOR III with a chat room.

Yeah that's usually called instances, but what the hell do I know. If you're talking about quests, they are called group quests. And please don't start spewing that Solo players level faster, I always had a static group in WoW of 3 people from start to end, and I leveled twice if not three times faster even while taking on collection quests. You just want a significant advantage over solo players.

Originally posted by billynomates

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Ill tell you why,it's because of comments like this..

 

Read what she says, she dosent say "you can solo most of the game" she actually says..

The MMO Gamer: So then, can you put it in context? What’s the experience going to be for the average player, the breakdown between time spent doing essentially solo activities versus group based ones?

Blaine Christine: That’s entirely up to you. We want to cater to different play styles.

Our intent is to make the game entirely solo-able. If you want to go through and solo, if you’re that type of player, you can play it as essentially a single-player experience.

Of course, you’re going to have other people running around you when you’re in the areas like Hutta, just like you would in any other MMO.

But if you choose to pursue the story on your own, you can do that.

She has just sait "we intend to make the ENTIRE GAME SOLO-ABLE,these are her words,it's their in black& white..

 

Read the whole thing here...

www.mmogamer.com/10/18/2009/bioware-blaine-christine-the-old-republic

 

 

Don't be dumb, dungeons and raids have already been confirmed, they are not going to let you solo those.

I find it funny that you also didn't mention the next paragraph in which she describe what social players could do that solo players cannot.

"Similarly, if you’re a social gamer, and your core gameplay is you want to get into the game, play with your guild, group up with a bunch of people, and either just do combat or do quests together, we’re going to have a lot of opportunities for group quests so that you can do that."

Whats that? Group quests? Oh, fun, me and my buddies in a quest together that solo players can't do? Awesome!

Originally posted by greed0104

Let's try another.

Person A: Does anyone want to do this group mission (links mission)?

Person B: Yeah I need that one. Throw an invite.

Person A: Anybody else?

Please atleast play a damn quest based MMO before you make wild assumptions that every single quest is absolutely soloable. You actually need people for some, and as they have said, there will be plenty group content and quests that are not soloable unless you have a good range of levels on the quest.

 

 

  rofl 95% of the time that shit does not work like that in a solo friendly game. 

Originally posted by Sabiancym

Originally posted by greed0104

Originally posted by Sabiancym

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Supporting player choice is fail?

So this basically said. We support Solo Players, We support group players, We support crafting and will deliver an experience you would expect.

Sounds like a success to me, and if they pull it off, I could see it being a major financial success as well.

 

It's not supporting group players when solo players can achieve the exact same thing without the effort needed to coordinate with a group.  It diminishes the accomplishment of groups and takes away the community aspect of the game.

 

It's almost forced solo play.

Person A:  "Does anyone want to go do *Insert raid/quest/mission*"

Person B: "LOL, just go do it by yourself."

Person A: "But I want to do it with other people"

Person B: "I can solo it faster."

 

 

If they add a system where grouped players can achieve more than solo players, I'll be content.  But if someone can complete every part of the game by themselves, what is the point of it being an mmo.  It might as well be KOTOR III with a chat room.

Please tell me how that is any different than an MMORPG with 11 million players?

That's exactly why there are options, if you don't want to group with anyone, then you don't need to, which is a great choice to be able to make for people who don't want to deal with people like Person B.

Originally posted by toddze

Originally posted by greed0104

Let's try another.

Person A: Does anyone want to do this group mission (links mission)?

Person B: Yeah I need that one. Throw an invite.

Person A: Anybody else?

Please atleast play a damn quest based MMO before you make wild assumptions that every single quest is absolutely soloable. You actually need people for some, and as they have said, there will be plenty group content and quests that are not soloable unless you have a good range of levels on the quest.

 

 

  rofl 95% of the time that shit does not work like that in a solo friendly game. 

I'm sorry you have had bad experiences. I think you're stretching it with "95%", but sure. Also  I heard Guilds were something for people. People that wanted to be social, quest, run dungeons, group and PvP. Btw saying "in a solo friendly game" in comparison to what, a group game? Hell, I wonder why.

Originally posted by mrroboto40

Originally posted by billynomates

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Ill tell you why,it's because of comments like this..

 

Read what she says, she dosent say "you can solo most of the game" she actually says..

The MMO Gamer: So then, can you put it in context? What’s the experience going to be for the average player, the breakdown between time spent doing essentially solo activities versus group based ones?

Blaine Christine: That’s entirely up to you. We want to cater to different play styles.

Our intent is to make the game entirely solo-able. If you want to go through and solo, if you’re that type of player, you can play it as essentially a single-player experience.

Of course, you’re going to have other people running around you when you’re in the areas like Hutta, just like you would in any other MMO.

But if you choose to pursue the story on your own, you can do that.

She has just sait "we intend to make the ENTIRE GAME SOLO-ABLE,these are her words,it's their in black& white..

 

Read the whole thing here...

www.mmogamer.com/10/18/2009/bioware-blaine-christine-the-old-republic

 

 

 

Don't be dumb, dungeons and raids have already been confirmed, they are not going to let you solo those.

I find it funny that you also didn't mention the next paragraph in which she describe what social players could do that solo players cannot.

"Similarly, if you’re a social gamer, and your core gameplay is you want to get into the game, play with your guild, group up with a bunch of people, and either just do combat or do quests together, we’re going to have a lot of opportunities for group quests so that you can do that."

Whats that? Group quests? Oh, fun, me and my buddies in a quest together that solo players can't do? Awesome!

You are the one being dumb..

Do you know what the word "entire" means? yes you do i hope.

She says that you can solo the entire game AND,wait for it,and have a single player experience.In the next breath she says that you can Group with friend and do group content.She does not say that the group content is any harder than the solo ruote,only that you can group with your friends for a more social play style.

Raids and instances..Hmm we already know that the game will have instances ,but no where have i read that these will only be duoable by groups,no where.As for raids,well link me a devs talking about raids please,you seem to know so much about the game,you obviously can back up your claims.

I am basing mine off what a DEV has said with her own words.Surely she had every opportunity in that interview ,to mention raids and content that only groups can do,she didn't.In fact she went the other route by stating the "ENTIRE game, no parts or bits,but the ENTIRE game can be done solo and in a single player experience.

So before you call people dumb,mr dumb ass fanboy/read what she says,it's as clear us day for us that are not blinded by the lights.

Link me where the devs say that  certain group content can only be done with a group,As a matter of fact link me where the devs are actually talking about raids?

You know no more than we do about this game,you like most are just assuming.

I have no problem with this game being a KOTOR3 with multiplayer add on and an Auction house plus crafting.If it is that game ,then BioWare should promote it as such,instead of making out it's a mmorpg.

NEXT...

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Originally posted by billynomates

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Originally posted by mrroboto40

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Originally posted by billynomates

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Ill tell you why,it's because of comments like this..
 
Read what she says, she dosent say "you can solo most of the game" she actually says..
The MMO Gamer: So then, can you put it in context? What’s the experience going to be for the average player, the breakdown between time spent doing essentially solo activities versus group based ones?
Blaine Christine: That’s entirely up to you. We want to cater to different play styles.
Our intent is to make the game entirely solo-able. If you want to go through and solo, if you’re that type of player, you can play it as essentially a single-player experience.
Of course, you’re going to have other people running around you when you’re in the areas like Hutta, just like you would in any other MMO.
But if you choose to pursue the story on your own, you can do that.
She has just sait "we intend to make the ENTIRE GAME SOLO-ABLE,these are her words,it's their in black& white..
 
Read the whole thing here...
www.mmogamer.com/10/18/2009/bioware-blaine-christine-the-old-republic
 
 

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Don't be dumb, dungeons and raids have already been confirmed, they are not going to let you solo those.
I find it funny that you also didn't mention the next paragraph in which she describe what social players could do that solo players cannot.
"Similarly, if you’re a social gamer, and your core gameplay is you want to get into the game, play with your guild, group up with a bunch of people, and either just do combat or do quests together, we’re going to have a lot of opportunities for group quests so that you can do that."
Whats that? Group quests? Oh, fun, me and my buddies in a quest together that solo players can't do? Awesome!

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You are the one being dumb..
Do you know what the word "entire" means? yes you do i hope.
She says that you can solo the entire game AND,wait for it,and have a single player experience.In the next breath she says that you can Group with friend and do group content.She does not say that the group content is any harder than the solo ruote,only that you can group with your friends for a more social play style.
Raids and instances..Hmm we already know that the game will have instances ,but no where have i read that these will only be duoable by groups,no where.As for raids,well link me a devs talking about raids please,you seem to know so much about the game,you obviously can back up your claims.
I am basing mine off what a DEV has said with her own words.Surely she had every opportunity in that interview ,to mention raids and content that only groups can do,she didn't.In fact she went the other route by stating the "ENTIRE game, no parts or bits,but the ENTIRE game can be done solo and in a single player experience.
So before you call people dumb,mr dumb ass fanboy/read what she says,it's as clear us day for us that are not blinded by the lights.
Link me where the devs say that  certain group content can only be done with a group,As a matter of fact link me where the devs are actually talking about raids?
You know no more than we do about this game,you like most are just assuming.
I have no problem with this game being a KOTOR3 with multiplayer add on and an Auction house plus crafting.If it is that game ,then BioWare should promote it as such,instead of making out it's a mmorpg.
NEXT...

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Since you rather foolishly decided to word your entire worthless argument on a statement a DEV made that you took out of context and ran with...

Allow me to do the same.

The MMO Gamer: To follow up a bit on some of that speculation you just mentioned…
Word association: What is the first thing that comes to mind when you hear the phrase, “Massively Single-Player Online Role-Playing Game?”

Blaine Christine: To me, right now, it’s something that I want to try to avoid. I don’t know if people perceive that as a positive or a negative, but I want to make sure that people know this is a true MMO.

Let's just reiterate the important part since I doubt reading comp is really your strong suite.

...but I want to make sure that people know this is a true MMO.

Ya. That's what a DEV said.

So clearly this is a true MMO. Clearly you are wrong. Clearly you need to move on.

Next...

Originally posted by Odela

Is there a reason?

Is it because we haven't seen anything massive yet?  Or because people think doing the main story is all there is to the game?


They've announced that there will be massive PvP fights and raids, as well as endgame when you complete the story.  Why are people still calling it a single player oriented MMO?

Both..

I believe it when i see it...

All i see is piece of crap mmos coming out..so...i gotta see first...i really hope they know what mmo means...massive..really massive not AOC massive or CO massive.

Originally posted by Vagrant_Zero

 

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Originally posted by billynomates

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Originally posted by mrroboto40

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Originally posted by billynomates

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Ill tell you why,it's because of comments like this..
 
Read what she says, she dosent say "you can solo most of the game" she actually says..
The MMO Gamer: So then, can you put it in context? What’s the experience going to be for the average player, the breakdown between time spent doing essentially solo activities versus group based ones?
Blaine Christine: That’s entirely up to you. We want to cater to different play styles.
Our intent is to make the game entirely solo-able. If you want to go through and solo, if you’re that type of player, you can play it as essentially a single-player experience.
Of course, you’re going to have other people running around you when you’re in the areas like Hutta, just like you would in any other MMO.
But if you choose to pursue the story on your own, you can do that.
She has just sait "we intend to make the ENTIRE GAME SOLO-ABLE,these are her words,it's their in black& white..
 
Read the whole thing here...
www.mmogamer.com/10/18/2009/bioware-blaine-christine-the-old-republic
 
 

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Don't be dumb, dungeons and raids have already been confirmed, they are not going to let you solo those.
I find it funny that you also didn't mention the next paragraph in which she describe what social players could do that solo players cannot.
"Similarly, if you’re a social gamer, and your core gameplay is you want to get into the game, play with your guild, group up with a bunch of people, and either just do combat or do quests together, we’re going to have a lot of opportunities for group quests so that you can do that."
Whats that? Group quests? Oh, fun, me and my buddies in a quest together that solo players can't do? Awesome!

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You are the one being dumb..
Do you know what the word "entire" means? yes you do i hope.
She says that you can solo the entire game AND,wait for it,and have a single player experience.In the next breath she says that you can Group with friend and do group content.She does not say that the group content is any harder than the solo ruote,only that you can group with your friends for a more social play style.
Raids and instances..Hmm we already know that the game will have instances ,but no where have i read that these will only be duoable by groups,no where.As for raids,well link me a devs talking about raids please,you seem to know so much about the game,you obviously can back up your claims.
I am basing mine off what a DEV has said with her own words.Surely she had every opportunity in that interview ,to mention raids and content that only groups can do,she didn't.In fact she went the other route by stating the "ENTIRE game, no parts or bits,but the ENTIRE game can be done solo and in a single player experience.
So before you call people dumb,mr dumb ass fanboy/read what she says,it's as clear us day for us that are not blinded by the lights.
Link me where the devs say that  certain group content can only be done with a group,As a matter of fact link me where the devs are actually talking about raids?
You know no more than we do about this game,you like most are just assuming.
I have no problem with this game being a KOTOR3 with multiplayer add on and an Auction house plus crafting.If it is that game ,then BioWare should promote it as such,instead of making out it's a mmorpg.
NEXT...

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Since you rather foolishly decided to word your entire worthless argument on a statement a DEV made that you took out of context and ran with...

Allow me to do the same.

The MMO Gamer: To follow up a bit on some of that speculation you just mentioned…
Word association: What is the first thing that comes to mind when you hear the phrase, “Massively Single-Player Online Role-Playing Game?”

Blaine Christine: To me, right now, it’s something that I want to try to avoid. I don’t know if people perceive that as a positive or a negative, but I want to make sure that people know this is a true MMO.

Let's just reiterate the important part since I doubt reading comp is really your strong suite.

...but I want to make sure that people know this is a true MMO.

Ya. That's what a DEV said.

So clearly this is a true MMO. Clearly you are wrong. Clearly you need to move on.

Next...

What she is saying is that it's not a single player game ,meaning you can group and do quests.What i am saying is "you can play the "Entire" game solo.

Now until BioWare decide to actually show us the mmorpg elements of this game,i will take on what she has said,meaning that the WHOLE game can be played solo.That means i will never have to group ,but i can still play through all the content  of the game on my own without a group.

This mean that anything you can do in a group,i can do it solo.

Key words..

"Entire and "Single player" experience. These are the terms she used to describe the content of this game.Of course if i want to group i can,so their for, in her eyes it's also a multiplayer game ,which it is.

The real question to ask is: "Can i play this entire games content solo", yes i can.She doen't say that their is certain content only a group can do,what she says is"you can group if you want to".

But you know what,we can go round and round but until you,i and all the other players get into the game,you know as much as me.

Time will tell....

 PS. Why wouldn't i base my info of off something a BioWare dev has said? are you saying she is wrong?

Originally posted by Teala

If you think this game is going to be anything like a sandbox game or be as open as WoW, you're sadly mistaken. 

Doubt anyone expect this to be as sandbox as EVE. However, it is quite pathetic to use WoW as an example of  open MMO, since most, at the end, spend  their time doing instanced content. 

I expect SW: TOR to be a great RPG experience like Baldur's Gate II or Mass Effect, but with frequent content patches and group/raid orientated gameplay after following your current storyline to the end.

Personally, I would hate it to be anything like WoW (expect polish and stability) and also would hate it to be anything like SWG. Only thing from SWG I might consider having is the crafting system.

I have played through most Bioware games and have no doubt that they can bring forth a better RPG experience than Blizzard or SOE. However, it remains to be seen how good MMO experience they can provide.

Originally posted by thexrated

Originally posted by Teala

If you think this game is going to be anything like a sandbox game or be as open as WoW, you're sadly mistaken. 

Doubt anyone expect this to be as sandbox as EVE. However, it is quite pathetic to use WoW as an example of  open MMO, since most, at the end, spend  their time doing instanced content. 

I expect SW: TOR to be a great RPG experience like Baldur's Gate II or Mass Effect, but with frequent content patches and group/raid orientated gameplay after following your current storyline to the end.

Personally, I would hate it to be anything like WoW (expect polish and stability) and also would hate it to be anything like SWG. Only thing from SWG I might consider having is the crafting system.

I have played through most Bioware games and have no doubt that they can bring forth a better RPG experience than Blizzard or SOE. However, it remains to be seen how good MMO experience they can provide.

It's not going to be like WOW anyway,You can't play through the "entire content" of WOW solo,this you can do in SWTOR.

Yes i can play the "Entire "game solo,if i want to group i can group but what's the point if i can do the same content solo,their is none.She doent say that their is content that only groups can do and she doesnt mention anything about raids,as a matter of fact i have not seen anything even talked about concerning raids.

KOTOR3 with multiuplayer add ons,slip in an auction house and a crafting system,then called it a mmorpg,clever but not pulling the wool over the mmorpg gamers.

The KOTOR die hard fans will love it...

Originally posted by billynomates

Originally posted by Vagrant_Zero

 

 

Since you rather foolishly decided to word your entire worthless argument on a statement a DEV made that you took out of context and ran with...

Allow me to do the same.

The MMO Gamer: To follow up a bit on some of that speculation you just mentioned…
Word association: What is the first thing that comes to mind when you hear the phrase, “Massively Single-Player Online Role-Playing Game?”

Blaine Christine: To me, right now, it’s something that I want to try to avoid. I don’t know if people perceive that as a positive or a negative, but I want to make sure that people know this is a true MMO.

Let's just reiterate the important part since I doubt reading comp is really your strong suite.

...but I want to make sure that people know this is a true MMO.

Ya. That's what a DEV said.

So clearly this is a true MMO. Clearly you are wrong. Clearly you need to move on.

Next...

What she is saying is that it's not a single player game ,meaning you can group and do quests.What i am saying is "you can play the "Entire" game solo.

Now until BioWare decide to actually show us the mmorpg elements of this game,i will take on what she has said,meaning that the WHOLE game can be played solo.That means i will never have to group ,but i can still play through all the content  of the game on my own without a group.

This mean that anything you can do in a group,i can do it solo.

Key words..

"Entire and "Single player" experience. These are the terms she used to describe the content of this game.Of course if i want to group i can,so their for, in her eyes it's also a multiplayer game ,which it is.

The real question to ask is: "Can i play this entire games content solo", yes i can.She doen't say that their is certain content only a group can do,what she says is"you can group if you want to".

But you know what,we can go round and round but until you,i and all the other players get into the game,you know as much as me.

Time will tell....

 PS. Why wouldn't i base my info of off something a BioWare dev has said? are you saying she is wrong?

 

I think the dev saying "entire" was probably hyberbole. Here is why.

"group up with a bunch of people, and either just do combat or do quests together, we’re going to have a lot of opportunities for group quests so that you can do that."

Source:www.mmogamer.com/10/18/2009/bioware-blaine-christine-the-old-republic/2

When they say entire, I think they mean being given options to skip group quests/dungeons and doing other quests. Similar to WoW. And out of curiosity what are the MMORPG elements to you? Do you expect to see everything so early? You do understand they can't demonstrate half the game without having the world full of people. Also take note that they are trying to demonstrate what makes them different. Another quote.

"We’re trying to really get the message out, all of the other stuff is there, it’s just a little harder to demo that. Of course we want to demo the coolest stuff, and things that we feel is new into an MMO, but all of the other stuff is definitely going to be there."

Originally posted by greed0104

 

I think the dev saying "entire" was probably hyberbole. Here is why.

It's not hype when said by someone involved in making the game. It's lying.

You are just practicing spin control. 'They didn't actually say what they just said. This is what they mean.'

 

"group up with a bunch of people, and either just do combat or do quests together, we’re going to have a lot of opportunities for group quests so that you can do that."

Source:www.mmogamer.com/10/18/2009/bioware-blaine-christine-the-old-republic/2

When they say entire, I think they mean being given options to skip group quests/dungeons and doing other quests. Similar to WoW. And out of curiosity what are the MMORPG elements to you? Do you expect to see everything so early? You do understand they can't demonstrate half the game without having the world full of people. Also take note that they are trying to demonstrate what makes them different. Another quote.

"We’re trying to really get the message out, all of the other stuff is there, it’s just a little harder to demo that. Of course we want to demo the coolest stuff, and things that we feel is new into an MMO, but all of the other stuff is definitely going to be there."

 

'Our game will be everything to everyone.' Standard devspeak.

Originally posted by greed0104

Originally posted by billynomates

Originally posted by Vagrant_Zero

 

 

Since you rather foolishly decided to word your entire worthless argument on a statement a DEV made that you took out of context and ran with...

Allow me to do the same.

The MMO Gamer: To follow up a bit on some of that speculation you just mentioned…
Word association: What is the first thing that comes to mind when you hear the phrase, “Massively Single-Player Online Role-Playing Game?”

Blaine Christine: To me, right now, it’s something that I want to try to avoid. I don’t know if people perceive that as a positive or a negative, but I want to make sure that people know this is a true MMO.

Let's just reiterate the important part since I doubt reading comp is really your strong suite.

...but I want to make sure that people know this is a true MMO.

Ya. That's what a DEV said.

So clearly this is a true MMO. Clearly you are wrong. Clearly you need to move on.

Next...

What she is saying is that it's not a single player game ,meaning you can group and do quests.What i am saying is "you can play the "Entire" game solo.

Now until BioWare decide to actually show us the mmorpg elements of this game,i will take on what she has said,meaning that the WHOLE game can be played solo.That means i will never have to group ,but i can still play through all the content  of the game on my own without a group.

This mean that anything you can do in a group,i can do it solo.

Key words..

"Entire and "Single player" experience. These are the terms she used to describe the content of this game.Of course if i want to group i can,so their for, in her eyes it's also a multiplayer game ,which it is.

The real question to ask is: "Can i play this entire games content solo", yes i can.She doen't say that their is certain content only a group can do,what she says is"you can group if you want to".

But you know what,we can go round and round but until you,i and all the other players get into the game,you know as much as me.

Time will tell....

 PS. Why wouldn't i base my info of off something a BioWare dev has said? are you saying she is wrong?

 

I think the dev saying "entire" was probably hyberbole. Here is why.

"group up with a bunch of people, and either just do combat or do quests together, we’re going to have a lot of opportunities for group quests so that you can do that."

Source:www.mmogamer.com/10/18/2009/bioware-blaine-christine-the-old-republic/2

When they say entire, I think they mean being given options to skip group quests/dungeons and doing other quests. Similar to WoW. And out of curiosity what are the MMORPG elements to you? Do you expect to see everything so early? You do understand they can't demonstrate half the game without having the world full of people. Also take note that they are trying to demonstrate what makes them different. Another quote.

"We’re trying to really get the message out, all of the other stuff is there, it’s just a little harder to demo that. Of course we want to demo the coolest stuff, and things that we feel is new into an MMO, but all of the other stuff is definitely going to be there."

 

 

So, "you think", see what i did their. If what  YOU say is true ,why didn't she say the same thing? she didn't did she.She had every chance to make it clear what she meant,but no she actually went on to say"giving you that single player experiance".

Don't shoot the messenger,take it up with the BioWare dev who stated that the "entire" game can be soloed.

She says that you can do group quests to give you that social feel,she didn't say that these group quests will be any harder than the solo quests,you are just assuming they will be,but the dev did not say that ,did she?

I am not trying to be a kill joy,but i have to go with what i read and what the dev actually said.Until they come out and say different,then this game is looking like a KOTOR3 love fest for the die hard bBioWare fans.

Yes i have played all their games and look forward to Dragon Age and ME2,but i am not going to let my fanboy gogles take over.

BioWare make some good RPG,are they the best,no not IMO.

Originally posted by realdeal

Originally posted by greed0104

Originally posted by billynomates

Originally posted by Vagrant_Zero

 

 

Since you rather foolishly decided to word your entire worthless argument on a statement a DEV made that you took out of context and ran with...

Allow me to do the same.

The MMO Gamer: To follow up a bit on some of that speculation you just mentioned…
Word association: What is the first thing that comes to mind when you hear the phrase, “Massively Single-Player Online Role-Playing Game?”

Blaine Christine: To me, right now, it’s something that I want to try to avoid. I don’t know if people perceive that as a positive or a negative, but I want to make sure that people know this is a true MMO.

Let's just reiterate the important part since I doubt reading comp is really your strong suite.

...but I want to make sure that people know this is a true MMO.

Ya. That's what a DEV said.

So clearly this is a true MMO. Clearly you are wrong. Clearly you need to move on.

Next...

What she is saying is that it's not a single player game ,meaning you can group and do quests.What i am saying is "you can play the "Entire" game solo.

Now until BioWare decide to actually show us the mmorpg elements of this game,i will take on what she has said,meaning that the WHOLE game can be played solo.That means i will never have to group ,but i can still play through all the content  of the game on my own without a group.

This mean that anything you can do in a group,i can do it solo.

Key words..

"Entire and "Single player" experience. These are the terms she used to describe the content of this game.Of course if i want to group i can,so their for, in her eyes it's also a multiplayer game ,which it is.

The real question to ask is: "Can i play this entire games content solo", yes i can.She doen't say that their is certain content only a group can do,what she says is"you can group if you want to".

But you know what,we can go round and round but until you,i and all the other players get into the game,you know as much as me.

Time will tell....

 PS. Why wouldn't i base my info of off something a BioWare dev has said? are you saying she is wrong?

 

 "I think the dev saying "entire" was probably hyberbole". Here is why.

"group up with a bunch of people, and either just do combat or do quests together, we’re going to have a lot of opportunities for group quests so that you can do that."

Source:www.mmogamer.com/10/18/2009/bioware-blaine-christine-the-old-republic/2

When they say entire, I think they mean being given options to skip group quests/dungeons and doing other quests. Similar to WoW. And out of curiosity what are the MMORPG elements to you? Do you expect to see everything so early? You do understand they can't demonstrate half the game without having the world full of people. Also take note that they are trying to demonstrate what makes them different. Another quote.

"We’re trying to really get the message out, all of the other stuff is there, it’s just a little harder to demo that. Of course we want to demo the coolest stuff, and things that we feel is new into an MMO, but all of the other stuff is definitely going to be there."

 

 

So, "you think", see what i did their. If what  YOU say is true ,why didn't she say the same thing? she didn't did she.She had every chance to make it clear what she meant,but no she actually went on to say"giving you that single player experiance".

Don't shoot the messenger,take it up with the BioWare dev who stated that the "entire" game can be soloed.

She says that you can do group quests to give you that social feel,she didn't say that these group quests will be any harder than the solo quests,you are just assuming they will be,but the dev did not say that ,did she?

I think because you can never be 100% certain, which is why I didn't continue pushing the group subject, are you not capable of reading? I never implied it was completely accurate. Please look at the new highlights so you may get a better feel for what I was saying.

Purple = Speculation

Red = Fact.

She didn't but he did, see where that puts us? We are STILL unsure, hence "I think".  The only part I said should be taken as truth is demonstrating all MMORPG elements is sorta impossible.