Originally posted by deviliscious

Yea, I bet it was the scenery. Ii mean look at how beautiful that view is from Rio, We would have had to put up Hawaii to beat that.
 

Look at  it this way, where would you rather vacation? On a tropical Island Oasis or in a windy city?

The notion that Chicago can't afford it is not absurd, NO ONE in the US can afford it right now, our economy is still going down the shitter.

No, it was mostly the fact that the games have not been held in South America..ever.  I find it funny you say no one can afford stuff like,  this yet you sit in a city with THE most expensive football stadium ever built.

In the end it doesn't really matter, neither one of us will agree on the other opinions no matter what.

Originally posted by deviliscious

He didn't choose Chicago? Does the Olympic comitee just randomly pick cities in countries, I am sure each country has to select a city and submit it. Why would none of our beautiful mountainous regions not have been on the list instead?  I mean it isn't like either Chicago or Dallas could compete with the views you get in Hawaii.. I mean c'mon we both know we don't have any of that  exotic island Oasis to offer up to go head on with Rio. LOL

Jesus... H... Christ,

Will you at least ATTMEPT to become educated in items you are arguing?

Here, let me help you this time:

There are 203 National Olympic Committees (NOCs) representing not only nations, but commonwealths, geographical areas, protectorates, and territories as well. If a city wishes to host the Olympics, a formal proposal must be made through its respective NOC. Once the proposal has been received by the IOC, the city is placed on a list with other applicant cities.

Each applicant city receives an Olympics questionnaire from the IOC. The city must respond in writing to a variety of topics that range from their motivation in hosting the Olympics to what venues they intend to use for each event. Each city must also list what kinds of accommodations will be available, and what types of transportation will be provided for athletes and spectators.

Applications are reviewed by IOC members and external experts to determine each city’s potential to host the Olympics. After reading all of the questionnaires, the IOC selects a group of five cities that will continue on in the process. These semi-finalists are known as “candidate cities.”

Phase 2: Candidate Cities

Each of the five candidate cities has to respond to a new questionnaire about their plans to host the Olympics. The new questionnaire is over 250 pages long and covers such topics as media operations, marketing, and the structure and workings of the athlete’s Olympic Village. Once all of the completed questionnaires have been received, an Evaluation Commission within the IOC analyzes the detailed documents and visits each potential host city for four days.

Phase 3: The Selection

The Evaluation Commission prepares a report for the IOC listing its recommendations. It is made public one month before the final selection of an Olympics host city is made.

A meeting of the IOC general assembly takes place to make the final selection. The meeting must be held in a city that is not on the list of candidate cities.

Each active member of the IOC general assembly gets one vote to choose the new Olympics host city. Members who reside in a country that has a city on the final list cannot participate in the voting process as long as that city is in contention.

Originally posted by BaronJuJu

Originally posted by deviliscious

Yea, I bet it was the scenery. Ii mean look at how beautiful that view is from Rio, We would have had to put up Hawaii to beat that.
 

Look at  it this way, where would you rather vacation? On a tropical Island Oasis or in a windy city?

The notion that Chicago can't afford it is not absurd, NO ONE in the US can afford it right now, our economy is still going down the shitter.

 

No, it was mostly the fact that the games have not been held in South America..ever.  I find it funny you say no one can afford stuff like,  this yet you sit in a city with THE most expensive football stadium ever built.

In the end it doesn't really matter, neither one of us will agree on the other opinions no matter what.

Actually I sit in ROCKWALL TX, just east of Dallas. I did not vote for the stadium, and I am not paying for it. LOL
 

See that little square NEXT to Dallas:

Originally posted by BaronJuJu

Originally posted by deviliscious

He didn't choose Chicago? Does the Olympic comitee just randomly pick cities in countries, I am sure each country has to select a city and submit it. Why would none of our beautiful mountainous regions not have been on the list instead?  I mean it isn't like either Chicago or Dallas could compete with the views you get in Hawaii.. I mean c'mon we both know we don't have any of that  exotic island Oasis to offer up to go head on with Rio. LOL

Jesus... H... Christ,

Will you at least ATTMEPT to become educated in items you are arguing?

Here, let me help you this time:

There are 203 National Olympic Committees (NOCs) representing not only nations, but commonwealths, geographical areas, protectorates, and territories as well. If a city wishes to host the Olympics, a formal proposal must be made through its respective NOC. Once the proposal has been received by the IOC, the city is placed on a list with other applicant cities.

Each applicant city receives an Olympics questionnaire from the IOC. The city must respond in writing to a variety of topics that range from their motivation in hosting the Olympics to what venues they intend to use for each event. Each city must also list what kinds of accommodations will be available, and what types of transportation will be provided for athletes and spectators.

Applications are reviewed by IOC members and external experts to determine each city’s potential to host the Olympics. After reading all of the questionnaires, the IOC selects a group of five cities that will continue on in the process. These semi-finalists are known as “candidate cities.”

Phase 2: Candidate Cities

Each of the five candidate cities has to respond to a new questionnaire about their plans to host the Olympics. The new questionnaire is over 250 pages long and covers such topics as media operations, marketing, and the structure and workings of the athlete’s Olympic Village. Once all of the completed questionnaires have been received, an Evaluation Commission within the IOC analyzes the detailed documents and visits each potential host city for four days.

Phase 3: The Selection

The Evaluation Commission prepares a report for the IOC listing its recommendations. It is made public one month before the final selection of an Olympics host city is made.

A meeting of the IOC general assembly takes place to make the final selection. The meeting must be held in a city that is not on the list of candidate cities.

Each active member of the IOC general assembly gets one vote to choose the new Olympics host city. Members who reside in a country that has a city on the final list cannot participate in the voting process as long as that city is in contention.

I admit, I have never bothered reading up on how they select cities, It has never been an important issue to me. So yes, I am quite ignorant on this sujbect.

 SO basically Chicago applied, wrote up a bunch of good stuff about their city.  sent lobbyists, Obama endorsed and that is how they were in the lot to begin with?
 

You know .. why are we still talking about this? I mean seriously don;t we have more pressing issues such as healthcare, the economy, and  the war to worry about ?

 This whole discussion about where Olympics are held seem petty in comparision.

Had Chicago won it would have made 2 Olympics held in the US within 20 years, 3 within 32 years, South America (the entire fucking continent) has never held a games, ever..... how the fuck do you guys manage a 3 page political blame game debate about this given those facts?

Originally posted by efefia

Had Chicago won it would have made 2 Olympics held in the US within 20 years, 3 within 32 years, South America (the entire fucking continent) has never held a games, ever..... how the fuck do you guys manage a 3 page political blame game debate about this given those facts?

First round elimination is not a coincidence, and has nothing to do with the South American continent.  In fact, Tokyo had previously hosted the Olympics and survived the first round. 

You might underestimate this, or perhaps not aware of it, but political leaders from Putin to the Pope have been able to influence the Olympics.

Obama, however, was not able to, which goes to my original point of Obama as a symbol for everything (good and bad).

Originally posted by declaredemer

Originally posted by efefia

Had Chicago won it would have made 2 Olympics held in the US within 20 years, 3 within 32 years, South America (the entire fucking continent) has never held a games, ever..... how the fuck do you guys manage a 3 page political blame game debate about this given those facts?

 

First round elimination is not a coincidence, and has nothing to do with the South American continent.  In fact, Tokyo had previously hosted the Olympics and survived the first round. 

 

 

You might underestimate this, or perhaps not aware of it, but political leaders from Putin to the Pope have been able to influence the Olympics.

 

 

Obama, however, was not able to, which goes to my original point of Obama as a symbol for everything (good and bad).

There's a big wide world outside your borders bud, you haven't got a god given right to anything, other than obesity.

Originally posted by efefia

Originally posted by declaredemer

Originally posted by efefia

Had Chicago won it would have made 2 Olympics held in the US within 20 years, 3 within 32 years, South America (the entire fucking continent) has never held a games, ever..... how the fuck do you guys manage a 3 page political blame game debate about this given those facts?

 

First round elimination is not a coincidence, and has nothing to do with the South American continent.  In fact, Tokyo had previously hosted the Olympics and survived the first round. 

 

 

You might underestimate this, or perhaps not aware of it, but political leaders from Putin to the Pope have been able to influence the Olympics.

 

 

Obama, however, was not able to, which goes to my original point of Obama as a symbol for everything (good and bad).

 

There's a big wide world outside your borders bud, you haven't got a god given right to anything, other than obesity.

LOL.  What?

Originally posted by BaronJuJu

Originally posted by deviliscious

Yea, I bet it was the scenery. Ii mean look at how beautiful that view is from Rio, We would have had to put up Hawaii to beat that.
 

Look at  it this way, where would you rather vacation? On a tropical Island Oasis or in a windy city?

The notion that Chicago can't afford it is not absurd, NO ONE in the US can afford it right now, our economy is still going down the shitter.

 

No, it was mostly the fact that the games have not been held in South America..ever.  I find it funny you say no one can afford stuff like,  this yet you sit in a city with THE most expensive football stadium ever built.

In the end it doesn't really matter, neither one of us will agree on the other opinions no matter what.

Actually, that stadium is not in Dallas.  It's over in Arlington.  Dallas didn't want any part of it once Jerry Jones let it be known that he wanted the tax payers to foot the bill.  A lot of people in Dallas got mad that Dallas didn't suck up to that creep, but I'm damn proud of Dallas for not doing it.  For once some people decided to put principles in front of economic gain.

I look at that stadium as an shameful eyesore now because of how it was built.  And I hope the people in Arlington come to resent it.  Just the way they treated the people who had homes on the property they wanted was enough to make the morals of this country a joke to Jerry Jones.  They abused the rule of eminent domain with no remorse.

When you're watching a Cowboys game, I hope everyone realizes the people that stadium hurt.

But my guess is that it will just turn out like everything else.  No one will care once they see their cherished football games being played out. 

Originally posted by Ockham

Originally posted by BaronJuJu

Originally posted by deviliscious

Yea, I bet it was the scenery. Ii mean look at how beautiful that view is from Rio, We would have had to put up Hawaii to beat that.
 

Look at  it this way, where would you rather vacation? On a tropical Island Oasis or in a windy city?

The notion that Chicago can't afford it is not absurd, NO ONE in the US can afford it right now, our economy is still going down the shitter.

 

No, it was mostly the fact that the games have not been held in South America..ever.  I find it funny you say no one can afford stuff like,  this yet you sit in a city with THE most expensive football stadium ever built.

In the end it doesn't really matter, neither one of us will agree on the other opinions no matter what.

Actually, that stadium is not in Dallas.  It's over in Arlington.  Dallas didn't want any part of it once Jerry Jones let it be known that he wanted the tax payers to foot the bill.  A lot of people in Dallas got mad that Dallas didn't suck up to that creep, but I'm damn proud of Dallas for not doing it.  For once some people decided to put principles in front of economic gain.

I look at that stadium as an shameful eyesore now because of how it was built.  And I hope the people in Arlington come to resent it.  Just the way they treated the people who had homes on the property they wanted was enough to make the morals of this country a joke to Jerry Jones.  They abused the rule of eminent domain with no remorse.

When you're watching a Cowboys game, I hope everyone realizes the people that stadium hurt.

But my guess is that it will just turn out like everything else.  No one will care once they see their cherished football games being played out. 

Hurt? Sure if they had some sentimental value living there otherwise most of them made 3 times the value of their house because Jerry had a deadline to meet. A $30,000 house going for $90,000-$100,000 in these times? Would hardly call that hurt.

I would much rather go to Rio than Chicago, regardless of who is president.

Originally posted by Arndur

Originally posted by Ockham

Originally posted by BaronJuJu

Originally posted by deviliscious

Yea, I bet it was the scenery. Ii mean look at how beautiful that view is from Rio, We would have had to put up Hawaii to beat that.
 

Look at  it this way, where would you rather vacation? On a tropical Island Oasis or in a windy city?

The notion that Chicago can't afford it is not absurd, NO ONE in the US can afford it right now, our economy is still going down the shitter.

 

No, it was mostly the fact that the games have not been held in South America..ever.  I find it funny you say no one can afford stuff like,  this yet you sit in a city with THE most expensive football stadium ever built.

In the end it doesn't really matter, neither one of us will agree on the other opinions no matter what.

Actually, that stadium is not in Dallas.  It's over in Arlington.  Dallas didn't want any part of it once Jerry Jones let it be known that he wanted the tax payers to foot the bill.  A lot of people in Dallas got mad that Dallas didn't suck up to that creep, but I'm damn proud of Dallas for not doing it.  For once some people decided to put principles in front of economic gain.

I look at that stadium as an shameful eyesore now because of how it was built.  And I hope the people in Arlington come to resent it.  Just the way they treated the people who had homes on the property they wanted was enough to make the morals of this country a joke to Jerry Jones.  They abused the rule of eminent domain with no remorse.

When you're watching a Cowboys game, I hope everyone realizes the people that stadium hurt.

But my guess is that it will just turn out like everything else.  No one will care once they see their cherished football games being played out. 

 

Hurt? Sure if they had some sentimental value living there otherwise most of them made 3 times the value of their house because Jerry had a deadline to meet. A $30,000 house going for $90,000-$100,000 in these times? Would hardly call that hurt.

Then you're  not familiar with the proceedings leading up to the building of that monument of government bullying and thievery.

There were many people who's families had lived there for decades or more.  Land that had been passed down from one generation to the next.  It was widely publicized here in the DFW area on television and radio, but people didn't give a damn about watching their rights being violated.  I guess since it didn't hit them square in the face personally, they felt it could never rear it's ugly head against them later on.

I'm not sure if you keep up with the recent abuses using eminent domain, but if you aren't I would hope you take some time and look around at the stories of how cities and states are taking up properties for use with such things as malls, Wal Mart type stores, and other things they feel are for the "public good".

And property rights are one of the foundations of this country.  If people cannot feel safe and secure on their own property then we are nothing but servants from that point on.  And there were people on that land that did not want to sell no matter what they price.  They were forced off.  They were even offered a deadline to take a large sum of cash or it would be lowered.  And they held out. 

Taking peoples property away from them for a football stadium that tax payer dollars had to build is just dead wrong.

Originally posted by Ockham

Originally posted by Arndur

Originally posted by Ockham

Originally posted by BaronJuJu

Originally posted by deviliscious

Yea, I bet it was the scenery. Ii mean look at how beautiful that view is from Rio, We would have had to put up Hawaii to beat that.
 

Look at  it this way, where would you rather vacation? On a tropical Island Oasis or in a windy city?

The notion that Chicago can't afford it is not absurd, NO ONE in the US can afford it right now, our economy is still going down the shitter.

 

No, it was mostly the fact that the games have not been held in South America..ever.  I find it funny you say no one can afford stuff like,  this yet you sit in a city with THE most expensive football stadium ever built.

In the end it doesn't really matter, neither one of us will agree on the other opinions no matter what.

Actually, that stadium is not in Dallas.  It's over in Arlington.  Dallas didn't want any part of it once Jerry Jones let it be known that he wanted the tax payers to foot the bill.  A lot of people in Dallas got mad that Dallas didn't suck up to that creep, but I'm damn proud of Dallas for not doing it.  For once some people decided to put principles in front of economic gain.

I look at that stadium as an shameful eyesore now because of how it was built.  And I hope the people in Arlington come to resent it.  Just the way they treated the people who had homes on the property they wanted was enough to make the morals of this country a joke to Jerry Jones.  They abused the rule of eminent domain with no remorse.

When you're watching a Cowboys game, I hope everyone realizes the people that stadium hurt.

But my guess is that it will just turn out like everything else.  No one will care once they see their cherished football games being played out. 

 

Hurt? Sure if they had some sentimental value living there otherwise most of them made 3 times the value of their house because Jerry had a deadline to meet. A $30,000 house going for $90,000-$100,000 in these times? Would hardly call that hurt.

Then you're  not familiar with the proceedings leading up to the building of that monument of government bullying and thievery.

There were many people who's families had lived there for decades or more.  Land that had been passed down from one generation to the next.  It was widely publicized here in the DFW area on television and radio, but people didn't give a damn about watching their rights being violated.  I guess since it didn't hit them square in the face personally, they felt it could never rear it's ugly head against them later on.

I'm not sure if you keep up with the recent abuses using eminent domain, but if you aren't I would hope you take some time and look around at the stories of how cities and states are taking up properties for use with such things as malls, Wal Mart type stores, and other things they feel are for the "public good".

And property rights are one of the foundations of this country.  If people cannot feel safe and secure on their own property then we are nothing but servants from that point on.  And there were people on that land that did not want to sell no matter what they price.  They were forced off.  They were even offered a deadline to take a large sum of cash or it would be lowered.  And they held out. 

Taking peoples property away from them for a football stadium that tax payer dollars had to build is just dead wrong.

Yes it gets abused but Jerry had a timeline and these people made off with way more then what it was worth.

Originally posted by Arndur

Originally posted by Ockham

Originally posted by Arndur

Originally posted by Ockham

Originally posted by BaronJuJu

Originally posted by deviliscious

Yea, I bet it was the scenery. Ii mean look at how beautiful that view is from Rio, We would have had to put up Hawaii to beat that.
 

Look at  it this way, where would you rather vacation? On a tropical Island Oasis or in a windy city?

The notion that Chicago can't afford it is not absurd, NO ONE in the US can afford it right now, our economy is still going down the shitter.

 

No, it was mostly the fact that the games have not been held in South America..ever.  I find it funny you say no one can afford stuff like,  this yet you sit in a city with THE most expensive football stadium ever built.

In the end it doesn't really matter, neither one of us will agree on the other opinions no matter what.

Actually, that stadium is not in Dallas.  It's over in Arlington.  Dallas didn't want any part of it once Jerry Jones let it be known that he wanted the tax payers to foot the bill.  A lot of people in Dallas got mad that Dallas didn't suck up to that creep, but I'm damn proud of Dallas for not doing it.  For once some people decided to put principles in front of economic gain.

I look at that stadium as an shameful eyesore now because of how it was built.  And I hope the people in Arlington come to resent it.  Just the way they treated the people who had homes on the property they wanted was enough to make the morals of this country a joke to Jerry Jones.  They abused the rule of eminent domain with no remorse.

When you're watching a Cowboys game, I hope everyone realizes the people that stadium hurt.

But my guess is that it will just turn out like everything else.  No one will care once they see their cherished football games being played out. 

 

Hurt? Sure if they had some sentimental value living there otherwise most of them made 3 times the value of their house because Jerry had a deadline to meet. A $30,000 house going for $90,000-$100,000 in these times? Would hardly call that hurt.

Then you're  not familiar with the proceedings leading up to the building of that monument of government bullying and thievery.

There were many people who's families had lived there for decades or more.  Land that had been passed down from one generation to the next.  It was widely publicized here in the DFW area on television and radio, but people didn't give a damn about watching their rights being violated.  I guess since it didn't hit them square in the face personally, they felt it could never rear it's ugly head against them later on.

I'm not sure if you keep up with the recent abuses using eminent domain, but if you aren't I would hope you take some time and look around at the stories of how cities and states are taking up properties for use with such things as malls, Wal Mart type stores, and other things they feel are for the "public good".

And property rights are one of the foundations of this country.  If people cannot feel safe and secure on their own property then we are nothing but servants from that point on.  And there were people on that land that did not want to sell no matter what they price.  They were forced off.  They were even offered a deadline to take a large sum of cash or it would be lowered.  And they held out. 

Taking peoples property away from them for a football stadium that tax payer dollars had to build is just dead wrong.

 

Yes it gets abused but Jerry had a timeline and these people made off with way more then what it was worth.

No, they didn't. 
What is the value of knowing that the government cannot just take your land away from you?  Answer: more than any of the money that our "Federal" Reserve could ever print.
That land has more than a monetary value.  Some things are just beyond the reach of money.  Freedom from government tyranny is one of those things.  And the government taking your property to build a football stadium has the rancid stank of tyranny all over it. 

Originally posted by Ockham

Originally posted by Arndur

Originally posted by Ockham

Originally posted by Arndur

Originally posted by Ockham

Originally posted by BaronJuJu

Originally posted by deviliscious

Yea, I bet it was the scenery. Ii mean look at how beautiful that view is from Rio, We would have had to put up Hawaii to beat that.
 

Look at  it this way, where would you rather vacation? On a tropical Island Oasis or in a windy city?

The notion that Chicago can't afford it is not absurd, NO ONE in the US can afford it right now, our economy is still going down the shitter.

 

No, it was mostly the fact that the games have not been held in South America..ever.  I find it funny you say no one can afford stuff like,  this yet you sit in a city with THE most expensive football stadium ever built.

In the end it doesn't really matter, neither one of us will agree on the other opinions no matter what.

Actually, that stadium is not in Dallas.  It's over in Arlington.  Dallas didn't want any part of it once Jerry Jones let it be known that he wanted the tax payers to foot the bill.  A lot of people in Dallas got mad that Dallas didn't suck up to that creep, but I'm damn proud of Dallas for not doing it.  For once some people decided to put principles in front of economic gain.

I look at that stadium as an shameful eyesore now because of how it was built.  And I hope the people in Arlington come to resent it.  Just the way they treated the people who had homes on the property they wanted was enough to make the morals of this country a joke to Jerry Jones.  They abused the rule of eminent domain with no remorse.

When you're watching a Cowboys game, I hope everyone realizes the people that stadium hurt.

But my guess is that it will just turn out like everything else.  No one will care once they see their cherished football games being played out. 

 

Hurt? Sure if they had some sentimental value living there otherwise most of them made 3 times the value of their house because Jerry had a deadline to meet. A $30,000 house going for $90,000-$100,000 in these times? Would hardly call that hurt.

Then you're  not familiar with the proceedings leading up to the building of that monument of government bullying and thievery.

There were many people who's families had lived there for decades or more.  Land that had been passed down from one generation to the next.  It was widely publicized here in the DFW area on television and radio, but people didn't give a damn about watching their rights being violated.  I guess since it didn't hit them square in the face personally, they felt it could never rear it's ugly head against them later on.

I'm not sure if you keep up with the recent abuses using eminent domain, but if you aren't I would hope you take some time and look around at the stories of how cities and states are taking up properties for use with such things as malls, Wal Mart type stores, and other things they feel are for the "public good".

And property rights are one of the foundations of this country.  If people cannot feel safe and secure on their own property then we are nothing but servants from that point on.  And there were people on that land that did not want to sell no matter what they price.  They were forced off.  They were even offered a deadline to take a large sum of cash or it would be lowered.  And they held out. 

Taking peoples property away from them for a football stadium that tax payer dollars had to build is just dead wrong.

 

Yes it gets abused but Jerry had a timeline and these people made off with way more then what it was worth.

No, they didn't. 
What is the value of knowing that the government cannot just take your land away from you?  Answer: more than any of the money that our "Federal" Reserve could ever print.
That land has more than a monetary value.  Some things are just beyond the reach of money.  Freedom from government tyranny is one of those things.  And the government taking your property to build a football stadium has the rancid stank of tyranny all over it. 

They went with whats best for the city. They already have the 2011 superbowl, NCAA bowl game and the 2011 final four lined up. There is even talk of a BCS game being added there when they meet to talk about this stuff in 2 years time. Not to mention it would help a Dallas olympic bid and the US bid for the 2018 and 2022 world cup. Yes it sucked that those people had to move for Jerryworld but it will greatly help the city as a whole.

Originally posted by Arndur

Originally posted by Ockham

Originally posted by Arndur

Originally posted by Ockham

Originally posted by Arndur

Originally posted by Ockham

Originally posted by BaronJuJu

Originally posted by deviliscious

Yea, I bet it was the scenery. Ii mean look at how beautiful that view is from Rio, We would have had to put up Hawaii to beat that.
 

Look at  it this way, where would you rather vacation? On a tropical Island Oasis or in a windy city?

The notion that Chicago can't afford it is not absurd, NO ONE in the US can afford it right now, our economy is still going down the shitter.

 

No, it was mostly the fact that the games have not been held in South America..ever.  I find it funny you say no one can afford stuff like,  this yet you sit in a city with THE most expensive football stadium ever built.

In the end it doesn't really matter, neither one of us will agree on the other opinions no matter what.

Actually, that stadium is not in Dallas.  It's over in Arlington.  Dallas didn't want any part of it once Jerry Jones let it be known that he wanted the tax payers to foot the bill.  A lot of people in Dallas got mad that Dallas didn't suck up to that creep, but I'm damn proud of Dallas for not doing it.  For once some people decided to put principles in front of economic gain.

I look at that stadium as an shameful eyesore now because of how it was built.  And I hope the people in Arlington come to resent it.  Just the way they treated the people who had homes on the property they wanted was enough to make the morals of this country a joke to Jerry Jones.  They abused the rule of eminent domain with no remorse.

When you're watching a Cowboys game, I hope everyone realizes the people that stadium hurt.

But my guess is that it will just turn out like everything else.  No one will care once they see their cherished football games being played out. 

 

Hurt? Sure if they had some sentimental value living there otherwise most of them made 3 times the value of their house because Jerry had a deadline to meet. A $30,000 house going for $90,000-$100,000 in these times? Would hardly call that hurt.

Then you're  not familiar with the proceedings leading up to the building of that monument of government bullying and thievery.

There were many people who's families had lived there for decades or more.  Land that had been passed down from one generation to the next.  It was widely publicized here in the DFW area on television and radio, but people didn't give a damn about watching their rights being violated.  I guess since it didn't hit them square in the face personally, they felt it could never rear it's ugly head against them later on.

I'm not sure if you keep up with the recent abuses using eminent domain, but if you aren't I would hope you take some time and look around at the stories of how cities and states are taking up properties for use with such things as malls, Wal Mart type stores, and other things they feel are for the "public good".

And property rights are one of the foundations of this country.  If people cannot feel safe and secure on their own property then we are nothing but servants from that point on.  And there were people on that land that did not want to sell no matter what they price.  They were forced off.  They were even offered a deadline to take a large sum of cash or it would be lowered.  And they held out. 

Taking peoples property away from them for a football stadium that tax payer dollars had to build is just dead wrong.

 

Yes it gets abused but Jerry had a timeline and these people made off with way more then what it was worth.

No, they didn't. 
What is the value of knowing that the government cannot just take your land away from you?  Answer: more than any of the money that our "Federal" Reserve could ever print.
That land has more than a monetary value.  Some things are just beyond the reach of money.  Freedom from government tyranny is one of those things.  And the government taking your property to build a football stadium has the rancid stank of tyranny all over it. 

 

They went with whats best for the city. They already have the 2011 superbowl, NCAA bowl game and the 2011 final four lined up. There is even talk of a BCS game being added there when they meet to talk about this stuff in 2 years time. Not to mention it would help a Dallas olympic bid and the US bid for the 2018 and 2022 world cup. Yes it sucked that those people had to move for Jerryworld but it will greatly help the city as a whole.

We are just going to have to strongly disagree on this one.  I soundly fall on the side of citizens property rights here.  It is just absolutely wrong to use governmental force to snatch up a persons land to give over to a private entity.  That's not what the eminent domain laws were intended for.  And it does nothing to ensure a stable society.

"Nothing is ours, which another may deprive us of." -- Thomas Jefferson

Originally posted by stillkillin

once again obama fails.

he failed to do anything with the ecomony and now we are going into the greater depression err the current economy was created over 4 years ago Obama just presided over the pre bubble burst.

he failed to keep nukes out of the hands of north korea had a nuke for 3 years i belive and iran Doesant have nukes but are trying for one....have been for years so dont see how its just Obamas fault. and now they have nukes and along with russia and china will start to war with everyone ???? How did you come to this conclusi...oh right you must have palyed fallout 3. let me let you into a secret Fallout 3 is just a game its not real life.

he failed americans with this stupid heath reform idea when we don't need it as Yes you do need health reform we don't have the money for it and how is this Obamas fault if true and now my kids and your kids will be living only to pay back china

obama has failed and now this shows it i can't wait for 2010 and 2012 when we vote all the lefties out of power and take back our nation real america is back my friends. Break out the Moonshine lets Whoop some niga's asses boys [spits in bucket]

Wow this post is just full of Bullshit, its barely even on Topic

It is nice, though, that even the far right --brithers to Beckers-- seem to even know this was a substantial loss for the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, and Obama took a political risk to help the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

First round elimination - ouch.  I am REALLY not at all rubbing it in, but I am just pointing out that it is telling.

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