It takes very little effort to reach level 5.  The fix has a small effect, because previously the Ad-bots would stand around at the newbie starting point and spam away  Now at least some activity has to be involved in each character before it can be used to spam, but that isn't much of a barrier.  

In contrast, Aion provides the spammer ample tools to perform their task. The Social/Friends management screen allows for single character wildcard searches, and then allows each person on the list to be right clicked on with the option to whisper...so working ones way down a list is fairly easy. Add to that the built in feature in the Memo pad that allows one to click on a paragraph in the notepad and have it become the text of a whisper easily - this means that a human being could easily process a list of characters and send each one the same message, all with built in game features.

Aion has not provided the user a means to click on an offending message and select an option to block that user directly from the message, instead you must type /block <name>. The Ad-bots have used random switches of characters and numbers to make it very difficult to match the spelling. What's more, there is no option to 'block all except (Friends/Group/Alliance/Legion), so the player is stuck managing an ever growing list of blocks when adding the simple blanket block would reduce the problem of ad-bots drastically.

OMFG did you really think that a /tell lock on lvl 5 and lower players would even begin to touch the issue??? Wow!!! You really need to take a step back rethink of a way to better controle the RMTs in Aion. Maybe you should start a team of GMs that do nothing but keep track of the RMTs and block there IP Address. Granted there are ways around this but at least it will make it harder for the RMTs to keep doing business. All in all in boils down to ALL the GD people who actualy BUY the gold from these people. Dont do it!!! Just say no!!! Im REALLY having second thoughts about Aion ; ; and i really do like the game. Maybe in six months ill come back and see if the RMTs have calmed down a bit. FFXI is a better game in the fact that they dont allow RMTs.

ROFL

Anyone who honestly thought this would help was deluding themselves.  I've removed myself from all the Public Channels, and since I play with my Wife I have no need for them for a while. (No idea when the instanced dungeons or what have you occur.  We're only LVL 10 on a few toons) 

Now I have to wonder why the companies don't just get into the gold selling business themselves?  I mean might as well make the extra money yourself.  :p

(Yes I'm being silly) 

DarthSpike says
"Aion has not provided the user a means to click on an offending message and select an option to block that user directly from the message, instead you must type /block <name>. The Ad-bots have used random switches of characters and numbers to make it very difficult to match the spelling. "
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WRONG!!! You can simplly Right Click on the users name in the Chat window and choose Wisper or Block. I've been doing that for a least the last week!

I do like your idea of block all except (Friends/Group/Alliance/Legion). But the rest of you comments are terrible. But I’m just a guy with an opinoin, just like you.

Originally posted by SnarlingWolf

But it comes down to the line I say everytime there is any thread like this. Stop blaming the company which can only do so much to stop it. BLAME THE PEOPLE WHO KEEP BUYING GOLD IN GAMES! They cause all of these issues. If people weren't so ridiculous and lazy that they need to spend real world money to get gold and get a short cut then this wouldn't happen.

Was thinking exactly the same thing.

The game is so great all they complain about is Chat Spam?   Unbelievalbe there are that many little crybabys having to complain about something.   Let them figure it out and ignore in the meantime.  Be greatfull thats the only complaint with game.   Unreal.

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Originally posted by Harvey_Scorp

DarthSpike says
"Aion has not provided the user a means to click on an offending message and select an option to block that user directly from the message, instead you must type /block <name>. The Ad-bots have used random switches of characters and numbers to make it very difficult to match the spelling. "
......
WRONG!!! You can simplly Right Click on the users name in the Chat window and choose Wisper or Block. I've been doing that for a least the last week!
I do like your idea of block all except (Friends/Group/Alliance/Legion). But the rest of you comments are terrible. But I’m just a guy with an opinoin, just like you.

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I am glad you liked the idea of the "block all whispers except" options. Here is another idea to go with it... apparently there is a command /anon that makes you invisible, and therefore not on the aforementioned search There is a dropdown list in your Friends list for invisible but I don't know for sure if it has the same effect (or what 'busy' does). The idea I have is to put the Invisible right next to wherever you put the whisper block exception options, with the same 4 exception options for it...Invisible to everyone except friend/group/alliance/legion. In my opinion, if we can block whispers, and remove ourselves from the search, while still being visible and able to talk to our friends, it would make it harder for the ad-bots to do their job.

I am curious what other comments you found so terrible? That I said that a person can hit V type in a single character in the Search, and then right click on each and every name on that list and whisper- its true, and you can check it in-game yourself. Is that the terrible part? Perhaps its the FACT that the memo pad feature tells you in the instructions at the bottom how ctrl-right click will copy a link from the memopad to the chat...nope that was true too so not sure how that is terrible.

Maybe you meant terrible in the "OMG he is right all of this stuff is provided by the game itself to become a spam-bot's dream come true" Either way, I certainly have no desire or interest in fighting or arguing with someone who also wants the game to be better than it is so it can be more playable and enjoyable. I think you are one of those people, but for some reason your response to my earlier post was 'flamy' but I guess that's your right. Just figure saving that vehemence for the Spammers and gold farmers is better than roasting me.

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Originally posted by Shreddi

The game is so great all they complain about is Chat Spam?   Unbelievalbe there are that many little crybabys having to complain about something.   Let them figure it out and ignore in the meantime.  Be greatfull thats the only complaint with game.   Unreal.

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That being said, I agree with you that if the ad-bot plague was gone there would be very little to complain about with this game. The graphics are great, the quests seem plentiful, classes seem balanced. If NCSoft invests some real effort into fighting these farmers and clearing up the incessant advertisements, I think this would become one of the best games out there.

Incidentally, I played in the OB for Aion, and it was ad-bot free at that point. It is an amazing game, facing an obstacle. I really want to see the obstacle overcome.

Do they have GMs in the game?

I read that as "good game" originally.  Then I saw your post and realized it was Game Guard.

As most of us know, GG would have zero effect on the spammers.  Nada.  It doesn't matter to me if it's in or out because I never had a problem with GG, but I know that others have.  There's no point in it.

What they need to do is add a Report feature to the right-click menu.  They already have an /autoreportwhatever command. I don't see why they didn't add it to the silly menu instead of a simple block.

This has me curious:  How many names can go into a block list?  It's not going to take long to fill it up, and then things are going to get all kinds of fun.

Originally posted by LilandraF

The only way to get rid of gold sellers is to put them out of business by selling gold officially.  When it's not lucrative for them, they will leave.

Just like anything banned in real life, once it is sold and regulated legitimately, the black market is destroyed.

You guys just don't get.... NcSoft  has gold selling in every game they own. The will make billions off of selling gold, do you really believe that some small dude in an apartment and now real way to laundry money is selling gold ? IN MY OPINION.

Originally posted by solareus

You guys just don't get.... NcSoft  has gold selling in every game they own. The will make billions off of selling gold, do you really believe that some small dude in an apartment and now real way to laundry money is selling gold ? IN MY OPINION.

Every mmorpg has gold sellers it's not ncsoft only... the only difference is that other games hide it more then ncsoft but they are still there.

I always thought.. what is wrong with you people? I've played tons of mmorgp's and still I haven't found the game that has no gold sellers. Why don't you get over it already? When I get spamed I just look at the msg and move on. They don't affect my gameplay whatsoever nor my joy of playing. This has turned into something normal in every mmorpg and if you don't pass trough this I wonder why you bother to play at all?

Honestly gold farmers are hard workers. they spend lots of time doing everything and anything to make gold. Their job is at the end of the day to make as much gold as possible, because they get paid by how much they make. Its nothing to them to get to a level that's needed to do as much farming as possible. They trade secrets among themselves that seem to make the most gold. Personally I've been able to tell who are gold farmers by just listening to them for a little bit. It seems that they start out small leveling, begging, ninjaing then somewhere along the lines graduate either to botting, or stealing accounts.

imo the only way to combat gold farmers is two fold. One stop hack tools from being run, and going after people who buy gold. Many people have grown way too comfortable with how easy it is to buy gold, run code to level faster, or farm.

5 min and you are lvl 5 do they make fun with os???

Originally posted by GozerTC

ROFL

Anyone who honestly thought this would help was deluding themselves.  I've removed myself from all the Public Channels, and since I play with my Wife I have no need for them for a while. (No idea when the instanced dungeons or what have you occur.  We're only LVL 10 on a few toons) 

Now I have to wonder why the companies don't just get into the gold selling business themselves?  I mean might as well make the extra money yourself.  :p

(Yes I'm being silly) 

 

 

are you being silly? or did you just uncover their master plan!?
 

and poor voiceless noobs :(

The EU version of Runes of Magic suffers from the same crap.

No amount of reporting makes any difference and sometimes the scum are using the SAME character 3 days after being reported.

At least there are some decent ADDONS to combat this now with custom and auto ban-lists. 

They seem to have added the level 5 ban to zonechat too but leveling is too easy as Aion.

But to the point on this game, why don't the devs build filters for the naming of characters to block keyboard hammerings like the good old goldspammers "sadfsadfghjk" deal?  And ANY name with the same character 3 times or more.

If they had to sit down and create real sounding names it would slow them another 5% I expect :)

(have the filter give them 3 tries then delete the account,  with a message warning that stupid names are not acceptible)

Raising the lvl for chat will not stop the spammers. Even other MMOs have issues. right now AION is being flooded by it as it is the new hot game of the moment.

You can right click the name of the offender and then click block. Today I blocked for the first 2 mins on and had very few issues afterward. If players do not buy the currency and promised powerlvling through bots then this will cause the advertisers to go away as they will be unable to make money.

There is only so much the GMs can do as the spammers change accounts faster than a super model changes clothes in a photo shoot.  If they are abusing the trial account then maybe this should be done away with to only allow paying players access or make a seperate server for trial accounts that does not affect players that play.

AION is pretty fun and I have no problem lvling and making kinah so I do not understand why anyone would use that route.

Keep in mind too that if you do buy from these spammers you could be compromising your account and personnal information.

The best prevention falls to players of all MMOs to stop buying from these gold sellers and stop buying their power lvling bot programs. This will cause them to not make money and they will go away. As long as they have customers they will continue to advertise.

Originally posted by Jalita

What I think they should do (this is just my two-cents, mind) is not allow whispers from people that aren't on your friends list.  This doesn't have to be mandatory!  But it could be an option.  No one can whisper you unless you add them as a friend.  If someone else wants to talk with you (say, someone passing by), then they can either form a group with you and talk that way, or just speak out loud. 

Of course, banning ip addresses would probably work too... until the gold spammers find a way around it.

make yourself invisible, no one can see you on the search menu, and only appear online to guildies