Sab-

Where do you live in Chicago? City/burbs etc.

I live in the western suburbs, right off of I290

Originally posted by Zindaihas

Originally posted by Enkindu

Sabian, don't feed the dumb rednecks.

They are like dogs that can't help pissing on the carpet when they get excited.

Let me see if I can lower myself to their level......

Here we go: Yeehaw! Bring the olympics to Charleston in 2020 and we can turn lynching into a competetive sport!

Fucking cretins.

 

Would you say you're the most arrogant person on this forum or just in the top 5?  From what I've read so far, my vote would be - the most arrogant.  Much like Obama, you think you know everything when, in fact, you know very little.

Don't bother. That level of ignorance does not deserve a reply. 
 

Originally posted by deviliscious

The thing is, we are not just in the red.. we are in the red WORSE than we have EVER been in the red, we have China calling to replace our currency , we have  credit being shut down and the outlook does not look good.  I do not think that people fully understand the impact of what is happening right now.  We are on a sinking ship, and we need to be making repairs fast just to keep afloat.
 

Yes, IT REALLY IS THAT BAD not an exageration, just facing the reality of our situation.  The difference now than in the past is we had industry to keep us afloat, that is not the case anymore, because we ran most of our industry out of the country, and most of what were american owned businesses, are now owned by foreign companies. We are not having this revenue return, only more is leaving.  

Unless we solve this now with long term lasting solutions yes, The United states will only sink further, who knows where the bottom will be. We have tent cities growing in the US, another housing market collapse in the near future, and the number of unemployed are rising by the day with no hopes of jobs returning now or ever with the current state of things. These issues must be tackled head on before we can dream of pulling out of this.

To better grasp our current situation check these out:

The National Debt Road Trip

The Obama Stimulus: Predictions vs. Reality

Obama's $17 Billion Budget Cuts In Context

How To Balance the Obama Budget

Ah, the ol' stimulus package argument rears its ugly head again. Should have seen that one coming. So, your plan is for the US to give up the opportunity to bring in billions in investments, tourism, etc. intot he US and instead find other ways of fixing the economy.

Brilliant.

Glad to see we remained on the subject here

Originally posted by BaronJuJu

Originally posted by deviliscious

The thing is, we are not just in the red.. we are in the red WORSE than we have EVER been in the red, we have China calling to replace our currency , we have  credit being shut down and the outlook does not look good.  I do not think that people fully understand the impact of what is happening right now.  We are on a sinking ship, and we need to be making repairs fast just to keep afloat.
 

Yes, IT REALLY IS THAT BAD not an exageration, just facing the reality of our situation.  The difference now than in the past is we had industry to keep us afloat, that is not the case anymore, because we ran most of our industry out of the country, and most of what were american owned businesses, are now owned by foreign companies. We are not having this revenue return, only more is leaving.  

Unless we solve this now with long term lasting solutions yes, The United states will only sink further, who knows where the bottom will be. We have tent cities growing in the US, another housing market collapse in the near future, and the number of unemployed are rising by the day with no hopes of jobs returning now or ever with the current state of things. These issues must be tackled head on before we can dream of pulling out of this.

To better grasp our current situation check these out:

The National Debt Road Trip

The Obama Stimulus: Predictions vs. Reality

Obama's $17 Billion Budget Cuts In Context

How To Balance the Obama Budget

 

Ah, the ol' stimulus package argument rears its ugly head again. Should have seen that one coming. So, your plan is for the US to give up the opportunity to bring in billions in investments, tourism, etc. intot he US and instead find other ways of fixing the economy.

Brilliant.

Glad to see we remained on the subject here

This is on subject.. where are we going to get these billions to spend in investments when we are not even going to receive the revenue Obama is relying on to cover his budget? Where are we supposed to get it? Out of our ass? I am completely serious here, Have you not been paying attention to  the recent predictions in tax revenue? The numbers are plummiting fast. More businesses are closing everyday, this equates to less tax revenues than were predicted.   How do you propose we come up with this money?

This is not just about the stimulus bill, this is about all of those jobs lost that were not predicted. This is about how many families have no money to spend because they are unemployed.  People need to wake up and realize the US is fighting for it's life right now ON the home front. These families are in need of help NOW, not later.
 

Originally posted by deviliscious

Originally posted by BaronJuJu

Ah, the ol' stimulus package argument rears its ugly head again. Should have seen that one coming. So, your plan is for the US to give up the opportunity to bring in billions in investments, tourism, etc. intot he US and instead find other ways of fixing the economy.

Brilliant.

Glad to see we remained on the subject here

This is on subject.. where are we going to get these billions to spend in investments when we are not even going to receive the revenue Obama is relying on to cover his budget? Where are we supposed to get it? Out of our ass? I am completely serious here, Have you not been paying attention to  the recent predictions in tax revenue? The numbers are plummiting fast. More businesses are closing everyday, this equates to less tax revenues than were predicted.   How do you propose we come up with this money?
 

The discussion was on how you thought the Olympics were a waste of money and no long term investment, not how Obama spends the Stimulus package. The state bidding for the hosting position sets aside a proposed budget for building and some federal funding also kicks in. the state knows it has to spend money to make money (ala $1.5 billion football arena). As I've also said now several times, corporations also spend a ton of money bidding and investing into the Olympics set-up and advertising. Billions of dollars being injected into the economy. Jobs created, new business ventures started.

But you're right, lets just figure out a way to bring tons of money in without having to spend a cent. I'm all ears.

Originally posted by BaronJuJu

Originally posted by deviliscious

Originally posted by BaronJuJu

Ah, the ol' stimulus package argument rears its ugly head again. Should have seen that one coming. So, your plan is for the US to give up the opportunity to bring in billions in investments, tourism, etc. intot he US and instead find other ways of fixing the economy.

Brilliant.

Glad to see we remained on the subject here

This is on subject.. where are we going to get these billions to spend in investments when we are not even going to receive the revenue Obama is relying on to cover his budget? Where are we supposed to get it? Out of our ass? I am completely serious here, Have you not been paying attention to  the recent predictions in tax revenue? The numbers are plummiting fast. More businesses are closing everyday, this equates to less tax revenues than were predicted.   How do you propose we come up with this money?
 

 

The discussion was on how you thought the Olympics were a waste of money and no long term investment, not how Obama spends the Stimulus package. The state bidding for the hosting position sets aside a proposed budget for building and some federal funding also kicks in. the state knows it has to spend money to make money (ala $1.5 billion football arena). As I've also said now several times, corporations also spend a ton of money bidding and investing into the Olympics set-up and advertising. Billions of dollars being injected into the economy. Jobs created, new business ventures started.

But you're right, lets just figure out a way to bring tons of money in without having to spend a cent. I'm all ears.

I have not brought up stimulus money spending at all, you did. I am not discussing that on this topic. If you would like to, we can start another thread to do so.
 

What I am talking about is the insane amount of jobs lost, companies bought out that will be affecting our families here at home now, and not having the money for extras( including the olympics) at this moment in time.

Yes there are ways to support job creation NOW without spending a cent, instead they have to cut back every cent they are spending now that is not necessary. They have to cut taxes for businesses, remove the special laws that allow for big business to have the upper hand,  we need tax cuts for small business to get started, and make it easier for them to get up and going. We need to make it easier for people to employ themselves right now, and give them  tax breaks for hiring others. 

We need to encourage job growth in  small buisness, and make it easier for them to get started right now. Now is not the time to start raising their taxes, now is not the time to fine people for not having insurance, now is not the time to just provide people with temporary jobs. We must allow people to do for themselves easier, so they will be able to and not have to rely on the government revenues.

We must change laws right now to accomodate small business, and rebuild the foundation that has faltered. Everyone from Levi's to rawlings has sold out to foreign companies, and this greatly affects our nation as a whole. Our solutions do not need to be targeted to specific areas, but blanketed over the entire nation to get the entire nation working again immediately.

We need to have tax breaks for those that are actively helping  our families, for those that are solving the problems so they can use that money to rebuild our country instead.

Change laws, give tax break incentives, cut programs, not spend money is the solution here. We have to go to the source to solve the problems, not just throw bandaids at it as new wounds open up.

Originally posted by Zindaihas

Originally posted by Enkindu

Sabian, don't feed the dumb rednecks.

They are like dogs that can't help pissing on the carpet when they get excited.

Let me see if I can lower myself to their level......

Here we go: Yeehaw! Bring the olympics to Charleston in 2020 and we can turn lynching into a competetive sport!

Fucking cretins.

 

Would you say you're the most arrogant person on this forum or just in the top 5?  From what I've read so far, my vote would be - the most arrogant.  Much like Obama, you think you know everything when, in fact, you know very little.

Arrogant? Yeah maybe. Sick of dumb rednecks? Most definitely.
 

Originally posted by deviliscious

I have not brought up stimulus money spending at all, you did. I am not discussing that on this topic. If you would like to, we can start another thread to do so.

No Devil, once again...it was you ..

"Originally posted by deviliscious

The thing is, we are not just in the red.. we are in the red WORSE than we have EVER been in the red, we have China calling to replace our currency , we have credit being shut down and the outlook does not look good. I do not think that people fully understand the impact of what is happening right now. We are on a sinking ship, and we need to be making repairs fast just to keep afloat.

Yes, IT REALLY IS THAT BAD not an exageration, just facing the reality of our situation. The difference now than in the past is we had industry to keep us afloat, that is not the case anymore, because we ran most of our industry out of the country, and most of what were american owned businesses, are now owned by foreign companies. We are not having this revenue return, only more is leaving.

Unless we solve this now with long term lasting solutions yes, The United states will only sink further, who knows where the bottom will be. We have tent cities growing in the US, another housing market collapse in the near future, and the number of unemployed are rising by the day with no hopes of jobs returning now or ever with the current state of things. These issues must be tackled head on before we can dream of pulling out of this.

To better grasp our current situation check these out:

The National Debt Road Trip

The Obama Stimulus: Predictions vs. Reality

Obama's $17 Billion Budget Cuts In Context

How To Balance the Obama Budget"

Originally posted by BaronJuJu

Originally posted by deviliscious

I have not brought up stimulus money spending at all, you did. I am not discussing that on this topic. If you would like to, we can start another thread to do so.

 

No Devil, once again...it was you ..

"Originally posted by deviliscious

The thing is, we are not just in the red.. we are in the red WORSE than we have EVER been in the red, we have China calling to replace our currency , we have credit being shut down and the outlook does not look good. I do not think that people fully understand the impact of what is happening right now. We are on a sinking ship, and we need to be making repairs fast just to keep afloat.

Yes, IT REALLY IS THAT BAD not an exageration, just facing the reality of our situation. The difference now than in the past is we had industry to keep us afloat, that is not the case anymore, because we ran most of our industry out of the country, and most of what were american owned businesses, are now owned by foreign companies. We are not having this revenue return, only more is leaving.

Unless we solve this now with long term lasting solutions yes, The United states will only sink further, who knows where the bottom will be. We have tent cities growing in the US, another housing market collapse in the near future, and the number of unemployed are rising by the day with no hopes of jobs returning now or ever with the current state of things. These issues must be tackled head on before we can dream of pulling out of this.

To better grasp our current situation check these out:

The National Debt Road Trip

The Obama Stimulus: Predictions vs. Reality

Obama's $17 Billion Budget Cuts In Context

 

 

 

 

How To Balance the Obama Budget"

 

You brought the Stimulus idea into the discussion. The rest were talking about the pro's and con's of having an Olympic event in a city or even th US. You started down the Stimulus path. I attemtpted to get our discussion back on track, but apprently that is not what you want. If you would like to continue to discuss how chicago hosting an event would have been bad as you did before, then I'm all ears. Otherwise, its concluded.

 

 

Of course you try and focus on ONE link that showed both the predictions of the stimulus AND THE SHEER NUMBER OF JOBS LOST. which I made clear repeatedly was why I posted that link. My focus was actually on the jobs that were lost , not on the stimulus itself, but yet you remain fixated on the stimulus even though I elaborated in detail what I was referring to.  Get out of the tunnelvision of the stimulus for a second and see the rest of the picture here.
 

Would you like to address the rest of what I said rather than keep ranting about the stimulus? I am saying we have no money for olympics, we have no money for ANYTHING but bare necessity. NO NEW PROGRAMS, no we have to cut them all right now and get people working and spending ALL over the nation, not just in one city.

I repeat:

"What I am talking about is the insane amount of jobs lost, companies bought out that will be affecting our families here at home now, and not having the money for extras( including the olympics) at this moment in time.

Yes there are ways to support job creation NOW without spending a cent, instead they have to cut back every cent they are spending now that is not necessary. They have to cut taxes for businesses, remove the special laws that allow for big business to have the upper hand, we need tax cuts for small business to get started, and make it easier for them to get up and going. We need to make it easier for people to employ themselves right now, and give them tax breaks for hiring others.

We need to encourage job growth in small buisness, and make it easier for them to get started right now. Now is not the time to start raising their taxes, now is not the time to fine people for not having insurance, now is not the time to just provide people with temporary jobs. We must allow people to do for themselves easier, so they will be able to and not have to rely on the government revenues.

We must change laws right now to accomodate small business, and rebuild the foundation that has faltered. Everyone from Levi's to rawlings has sold out to foreign companies, and this greatly affects our nation as a whole. Our solutions do not need to be targeted to specific areas, but blanketed over the entire nation to get the entire nation working again immediately.

We need to have tax breaks for those that are actively helping our families, for those that are solving the problems so they can use that money to rebuild our country instead.Change laws, give tax break incentives, cut programs, not spend money is the solution here. We have to go to the source to solve the problems, not just throw bandaids at it as new wounds open up."
 

You said you would be all for job creation that doesn't spend money.. so how bout it?

Originally posted by deviliscious

Of course you try and focus on ONE link that showed both the predictions of the stimulus AND THE SHEER NUMBER OF JOBS LOST. which I made clear repeatedly was why I posted that link. My focus was actually on the jobs that were lost , not on the stimulus itself, but yet you remain fixated on the stimulus even though I elaborated in detail what I was referring to.  Get out of the tunnelvision of the stimulus for a second and see the rest of the picture here.
 

Would you like to address the rest of what I said rather than keep ranting about the stimulus? I am saying we have no money for olympics, we have no money for ANYTHING but bare necessity. NO NEW PROGRAMS, no we have to cut them all right now and get people working and spending ALL over the nation, not just in one city.

I repeat:

 

 

"What I am talking about is the insane amount of jobs lost, companies bought out that will be affecting our families here at home now, and not having the money for extras( including the olympics) at this moment in time.

Yes there are ways to support job creation NOW without spending a cent, instead they have to cut back every cent they are spending now that is not necessary. They have to cut taxes for businesses, remove the special laws that allow for big business to have the upper hand, we need tax cuts for small business to get started, and make it easier for them to get up and going. We need to make it easier for people to employ themselves right now, and give them tax breaks for hiring others.

We need to encourage job growth in small buisness, and make it easier for them to get started right now. Now is not the time to start raising their taxes, now is not the time to fine people for not having insurance, now is not the time to just provide people with temporary jobs. We must allow people to do for themselves easier, so they will be able to and not have to rely on the government revenues.

We must change laws right now to accomodate small business, and rebuild the foundation that has faltered. Everyone from Levi's to rawlings has sold out to foreign companies, and this greatly affects our nation as a whole. Our solutions do not need to be targeted to specific areas, but blanketed over the entire nation to get the entire nation working again immediately.

We need to have tax breaks for those that are actively helping our families, for those that are solving the problems so they can use that money to rebuild our country instead.Change laws, give tax break incentives, cut programs, not spend money is the solution here. We have to go to the source to solve the problems, not just throw bandaids at it as new wounds open up."
 

You said you would be all for job creation that doesn't spend money.. so how bout it?

 

 

You posted the links to Youtube commentators on the Stimulus package dear, not I.

So instead of supporting getting an Olympic venue into the US, creating jobs and money flow for the people, your "simpler" solution is to just change all the tax laws and "cut back every cent that is not necessary" with tax breaks thrown in.

Wow, how simple. 

Oh, please explain what is curently not necessary that money is being spent on (the new healthcare doesn't count because it doesn't exist yet) that the majority of Americans would agree on. Also, while you are at it explain how lobbists for big businesses (Lockheed martin, WalMart, Boeing, Microsoft, etc) will allow the removal of the "upper hand" from them to smaller businesses. So instead of tax breaks for large companies employing thousands of Americans, we divert tax breaks  to small businesses instead...right? Isn't that just more Federal regulation that you are complaining about just reveresed to the other side? So I take it you are not a Free Market person...interesting.

Then when you are done, explain how all of the ideas you suggested will not cost any money.

Finally, after all of that...explain how the city of Chicago if it had received the nomination for the Olympics would have lost money on the venture with plans on using the arenas built for future post-olympic use such as the Salt Lake City did.

p.s. - I really want to here the Olympic one more than the stimulus debate you diverted us off to.

Originally posted by BaronJuJu

 

You posted the links to Youtube commentators on the Stimulus package dear, not I.

So instead of supporting getting an Olympic venue into the US, creating jobs and money flow for the people, your "simpler" solution is to just change all the tax laws and "cut back every cent that is not necessary" with tax breaks thrown in.

Wow, how simple. 

Oh, please explain what is curently not necessary that money is being spent on (the new healthcare doesn't count because it doesn't exist yet) that the majority of Americans would agree on. Also, while you are at it explain how lobbists for big businesses (Lockheed martin, WalMart, Boeing, Microsoft, etc) will allow the removal of the "upper hand" from them to smaller businesses. So instead of tax breaks for large companies employing thousands of Americans, we divert tax breaks  to small businesses instead...right? Isn't that just more Federal regulation that you are complaining about just reveresed to the other side? So I take it you are not a Free Market person...interesting.

Then when you are done, explain how all of the ideas you suggested will not cost any money.

Finally, after all of that...explain how the city of Chicago if it had received the nomination for the Olympics would have lost money on the venture with plans on using the arenas built for future post-olympic use such as the Salt Lake City did.

p.s. - I really want to here the Olympic one more than the stimulus debate you diverted us off to.

I will answer some of your points.

Libertarians (note I didn't say conservatives because that label really means nothing today) would do two things immediately.

1) Remove our troops from non-combat zones and put our allies on notice that we will no longer be subsidizing their defense.  Also we would do as much as possible to remove our troops from Afghanistan and Iraq as soon as possible, and not replace them with contractors or rename our troops as "advisors".  By 2012 we would cut funding for all over seas ambitions.

Savings from this alone has been estimated to cut our budget drastically.  We would then be able to afford one of two options with our current budget.  Eliminate the federal income tax or fully fund our current welfare obligations.  If we eliminate the income tax we will replace it with........nothing.

2) End the Fed.  By removing the federal reserve we will stabilize our currency, allow the recession/depression to run its course and will be better for it in the long run.  We won't be able to stop the huge inflation coming our way completely but by stopping the fed now we can limit the damage the infusion of over $1 trillion dollars to the money supply over the past 8 months will do.

By stabilizing our currency and by taking the better of the two routes in #1 we will instantly increase middle class American's take home pay by 20-40%.  If you aren't see the ramifications of a 20-40% pay increase for families then I don't know what to tell you...

YES IT IS THIS SIMPLE.

About Chicago, well we are the most corrupt city in the country within the most corrupt state.  London, by far less corrupt is already 300% over its Olympic budget.  I don't see how Chicago would fair any better.  I live in Chicago and I have heard arguments for and against it for the past year and quite frankly am happy we don't have it.  There are dozens of studies that have shown that we would lose money from it, and no I won't find them for you, sorry :(

Sorry if my tone sounds offensive, been a long day at work :)

This thread keeps erroring when I try to post, so I am doing it this way:

Originally posted by BaronJuJu

You posted the links to Youtube commentators on the Stimulus package dear, not I.

Yes I posted a link that spoke about the stimulus but also a visualization of ALL OF THE JOBS THAT HAVE BEEN LOST. You chose to mention the stimulus in text, which I did not in my discussion of that video. And ignore the job losses, and how the prediction of job losses has far exceeded everything they predicted as a visual reference of how much money we have lost in income taxes.

So instead of supporting getting an Olympic venue into the US, creating jobs and money flow for the people, your "simpler" solution is to just change all the tax laws and "cut back every cent that is not necessary" with tax breaks thrown in.

The Olymipcs is a short term revenue for a small area vs long term investments that help the entire nation as a whole.

His priorities are not just Chicago anymore, his priority is the well being of the entire nation.

I do not want to change just Tax laws, but fees and permits and all the other BS they pull out of their ass to make it harder on small business to compete in the US.

Wow, how simple.

It is amazing how they always try to complicate things beyond recognition so that people actually are willing to consent to insane things because they do not understand them. There is no reason for that. Their application of engineered consent is truly amazing.

Oh, please explain what is curently not necessary that money is being spent on (the new healthcare doesn't count because it doesn't exist yet) that the majority of Americans would agree on. Also, while you are at it explain how lobbists for big businesses (Lockheed martin, WalMart, Boeing, Microsoft, etc) will allow the removal of the "upper hand" from them to smaller businesses. So instead of tax breaks for large companies employing thousands of Americans, we divert tax breaks to small businesses instead...right? Isn't that just more Federal regulation that you are complaining about just reveresed to the other side? So I take it you are not a Free Market person...interesting.

We are a republic, not a democracy. This country was never meant to be ruled by " mob rule". It is not that we want to cut these things, it is that we have no other choice. We are on a sinking ship, we either make the necessary repairs or we sink faster. They are not doing that, they are making it worse not better.

Yes, we need to break ourselves free from the grip of big business and take them down in a thousand bites. It is a funnel that is syphoning all the money out of the country, unless we change that this will only get much worse. You compare one giant monster to a single small business, and that is where the problem lies. We need to instead network our small business to compete with the giants. Set up a networking system that allows them to recive the same discounts that the larger businesses do. Instead of making one small group of people wealthy , in turn it creates many people wealthy spread out through out the US. The people in turn spend money in their communities where they live, strengthening and rebuilding our communities. This: small businesses hiring people in their communities+ networking these businesses to compete with large business = many jobs across the US keeping money in their own communities competing with big business. Puts a stopper in big business draining all the money from our communities.

I am a fan of the FREE MARKET , but that is not what we currently have due to big business lobbyist. They used their bargaining power and corrupt politicians to allow them to have separate rules to live by . This must be changed that is not a free market at all, that is not equality. They should be forced to live by the same rules as everyone else. remove the barriers and allow more people to partcipate IN the FREE MARKET. It is not a free market if they make it so more cannot compete, that is a monopoly between giants with special laws protecting them made by the government.

Then when you are done, explain how all of the ideas you suggested will not cost any money.

It will cost the people money to start their businesses, but it will not cost the government money, no instead they have to make do with less money. Cut backs in government spending and allow the people to rebuild our country.

Finally, after all of that...explain how the city of Chicago if it had received the nomination for the Olympics would have lost money on the venture with plans on using the arenas built for future post-olympic use such as the Salt Lake City did.

The Olympics are a short term revenue increase, AFTER a huge investment. Chicago, just as Dallas does not have the city resources to provide officers for the crime they currently have, how are they going to afford to hire more? It takes tons just to build the facilities themselves, to maintain them afterwards, to build the needed streets. If they do not have enough people move there and stay there to make up for this long term, they cannot support these increases.

What happens to all the renta cops they hire after the olympics? what happens to all of these families relying on these jobs after the olympics? They will move to where the jobs are, and thus removing the support to maintain these facilities. They do not currently have the funds to maintain these things long term, and are relying on people to permanantly relocate there in order to strengthen their tax revenues to support it. If that does not happen, how are they going to support it? Hotels, resteraunts ect make temporary revenue increases, but long term they may have to close their doors after, thus greatly reducing revenues after the olympics are over.

If they currently have the revenues in surplus to support this , that is fine, if not they will only go further in debt.

p.s. - I really want to here the Olympic one more than the stimulus debate you diverted us off to.

Originally posted by deviliscious

This thread keeps erroring when I try to post, so I am doing it this way:

Mine was doing that too and I lost an entire post that I had to retype.   I thought it was timing out or something.  But now it seems to have stopped.  Glad it wasn't just me.

Originally posted by Zindaihas

Originally posted by deviliscious

This thread keeps erroring when I try to post, so I am doing it this way:

 

Mine was doing that too and I lost an entire post that I had to retype.   I thought it was timing out or something.  But now it seems to have stopped.  Glad it wasn't just me.

If it happens again, all you have to do is hit back and you might be able to copy and paste your text to save it. That is what I did the second time .. though it was probably a good thing, My first post was MUCH longer. LOL 
 

AHHH wall of red text making the eyes bleed!

Originally posted by deviliscious

Originally posted by Zindaihas

Originally posted by deviliscious

This thread keeps erroring when I try to post, so I am doing it this way:

 

Mine was doing that too and I lost an entire post that I had to retype.   I thought it was timing out or something.  But now it seems to have stopped.  Glad it wasn't just me.

If it happens again, all you have to do is hit back and you might be able to copy and paste your text to save it. That is what I did the second time .. though it was probably a good thing, My first post was MUCH longer. LOL 
 

AHHH wall of red text making the eyes bleed!

I did that the first time and my post was still lost.  That's why I had to retype.  It did it the second time as well, but this time the post reappeared after I hit the back button.  So that time I copied it.  I fixed it by simply relogging in and pasting it again.  Haven't had a problem since.

Is that why you use the red text?  To annoy people?  I wouldn't know.  Doesn't bother me a bit.  Red is my favorite color.

Originally posted by Zindaihas

Originally posted by deviliscious

Originally posted by Zindaihas

Originally posted by deviliscious

This thread keeps erroring when I try to post, so I am doing it this way:

 

Mine was doing that too and I lost an entire post that I had to retype.   I thought it was timing out or something.  But now it seems to have stopped.  Glad it wasn't just me.

If it happens again, all you have to do is hit back and you might be able to copy and paste your text to save it. That is what I did the second time .. though it was probably a good thing, My first post was MUCH longer. LOL 
 

AHHH wall of red text making the eyes bleed!

 

I did that the first time and my post was still lost.  That's why I had to retype.  It did it the second time as well, but this time the post reappeared after I hit the back button.  So that time I copied it.  I fixed it by simply relogging in and pasting it again.  Haven't had a problem since.

Is that why you use the red text?  To annoy people?  I wouldn't know.  Doesn't bother me a bit.  Red is my favorite color.

The people it bothers aren't the type of people I want to talk to anyways. It is kind of like text screening instead of call screening.

I use red because it helps me find my posts. Besides, I am the devil, so it makes perfect sense for me to type in red. If it pisses them off , that is just a bonus.