Originally posted by EduardoASG

once people reach the lvl 20s, they realize this games content is basically ganking and grind.. and not really nothing else.

Nice graphics [ Asian stylish tho ] + constant ganking [ ganking someone else or beeing ganked ] + endless grindfest + low loot drop rates promoting farming and real cash tradings = Nice graphics + CRAP.

oh well.. i got into this boat.. still some days till the free month is over, doubt my opinion will change tho.

You really have no clue do you?

I have found many quests from 20 to 28 in Eltnan and Theobomos.

Only after 28 do the quests start to become few, but this is when you start dioing the abyss and the quests there as well as the instances to gain your level.

You also have to take into account that many people are holding off reviewing this game if they are casual players because they haven't leveled enough yet to see all of the content. Most of your good ratings and bad ratings right now are people who either just didn't like the game and didn't see all of the content, or people who are so hyped about it that they gave it a good rating, without seeing all the content.

Remember too that some of the free games, which IMO are inferior to this title and many other titles are actually rated high mainly because people really like free things. So ratings on this site are somewhat suspect. They should really seperate the free games and the P2P games as seperate classes considering that the few free games I have tried were not very good with the exception of Saga of Ryzom, which has limited free play, at least when I played it.

In short the ratings on this site really don't indicate whether or not you'll like a game very well.

The ratings on this site have never been worth the cyberspace they take up.

Warhammer is still 8.25

Aion is 8.35

Warhammer is very close to closing its doors or becoming F2P.  It's the worst disaster in MMO history, yet it is still a top ranked game.  I think this site is more about selling software than honestly rating games.

Originally posted by Nihilist

The game is a polished korean grinder - of course the rating will fall once people beging to realize it.

I don't think it is that polished at all.  For a year live with tons of players Aion has a shocking number of unpolished elements.  Of course, if you stop and realize that the lack of polish is just the nature of a game made for Korea then you get to the heart of the issue of this topic, that being Aion is just not a game for NA/Europe.

That being said, I think the title of the topic is a bit much, Aion is not at its 'end' and will likely do well enough to justify the launch in the US/Euro.  Heck, games like Conan and Warhammer even managed to draw folks to keep the lights on.  However, the idea that Aion is a 'big' title in US/Euro I think is over reaching and once the 'nothing new is out' effect blows over Aion will just be another also ran.  Besides, games like Aion with their gank or be ganked PvP system never do very well as in short order the folks who want more compelling PvP leave and all that is left is the gankers and since they only get off on fights where they have little resistance the lack of people to gank wears thin and they move on to corrupt another game.  When are DEVs going to realize that the whole 'crush to win' and 'no crying in the red circle' type PvP has little to no appeal?  People want PvP, even non consensual PvP, but they want it to be fair and not dominated by roaming ganks squads and griefers.

Originally posted by mrbbman

In short the ratings on this site really don't indicate whether or not you'll like a game very well.

Wrong.. ratings on this site DO reflect if a game is good or not.. thats why MMORPG has grown to what it is today.

Originally posted by EduardoASG

Originally posted by mrbbman

In short the ratings on this site really don't indicate whether or not you'll like a game very well.

 

Wrong.. ratings on this site DO reflect if a game is good or not.. thats why MMORPG has grown to what it is today.

Nope, they don't.  8.25 for Warhammer is ridiculous and we all know it.

Originally posted by EduardoASG

 

Wrong.. ratings on this site DO reflect if a game is good or not.. thats why MMORPG has grown to what it is today.

Other than personal experience, in most cases outside some extreme of a game that is terribly flawed and dysfunctional, there is no way to say if a game is good or not as that is a completely subjective judgment for each person.  However, ratings like those here and forums comments can help people get a sense of whether a game is something that might be up their ally.

Those ratings are one of the worst parameters to use.

The best idea you can get from a MMO is judging it at release, then 2 months later.

Originally posted by MisterSr

Okay, I understand it just came out and the hype is falling, and so the rating will fall. But the fact that it has dropped so drastically in just a matter of days astounds me, being this game is actually good. So why is it falling like this? Warhammer and LoTRo didn't drop this quickly after release, why is Aion. I literally looked at the rating maybe 3 days ago and it was a 8.51 and today is was at 8.36 and then dropped in an hour to 8.33. I just don't understand this, can someone enlighten me?

Easy, Mr reality hit the players.

WAR didn't start to drop until poeple hit T3, I guess hitting the place where you see how good the game truly is goes faster with Aion.

Don't get me wrong, I don't think Aion is better or worse than most other MMOs but the game got too hyped just like WAR.

LOTRO was never that much hyped. And it never sold as much initially as WAR and AION.

Originally posted by DevilXaphan

Originally posted by EduardoASG

once people reach the lvl 20s, they realize this games content is basically ganking and grind.. and not really nothing else.

Nice graphics [ Asian stylish tho ] + constant ganking [ ganking someone else or beeing ganked ] + endless grindfest + low loot drop rates promoting farming and real cash tradings = Nice graphics + CRAP.

oh well.. i got into this boat.. still some days till the free month is over, doubt my opinion will change tho.

 

You really have no clue do you?

I have found many quests from 20 to 28 in Eltnan and Theobomos.

Only after 28 do the quests start to become few, but this is when you start dioing the abyss and the quests there as well as the instances to gain your level.

The game is really about GanknGrind with a few other things mixed in that doesnt mean its a bad game it just not for everyone. for alot of people tring to get away from WoW, to them it just feels like a asian WoW theme. But over all the game is ok and polished, just not for everyone.

Wrong again...people who can't think for themselves may care what a game is rated or what others thnk of it. but there are those of us who like to decide for ourselves what we will like and what we wont.  Like i said before, just as this is my opinion, all the other posts on here are others opinions.  Doesn't mean they are right or wrong.  Best thing is try it for yourself and then decide if you like it.  Ratings are a waist of time.

 It drops because some of the honeymoon has wore off. Then you also have those that bought it and were disappointed out of the gate. Lots of reasons as it should settle in line with thte rest of the NCSoft games and pvp games. It wasnt going to stay number 1.

Originally posted by jpaprocki

Wrong again...people who can't think for themselves may care what a game is rated or what others thnk of it. but there are those of us who like to decide for ourselves what we will like and what we wont.  Like i said before, just as this is my opinion, all the other posts on here are others opinions.  Doesn't mean they are right or wrong.  Best thing is try it for yourself and then decide if you like it.  Ratings are a waist of time.

Well I wish that you are correct but I am afraid that you are not. For example Tabula Rasa was good game for me but it had poor ratings and servers are down now. It is all based on money game earns and ratings of the game. Publisher will not invest into something that HE finds is not woth the investment. He is not interesed in how good game is, or do you or me like it, he is only interesed in money income. Sad, but true.

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Originally posted by Carnivorous

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Originally posted by rav3n2

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Originally posted by Nihilist

The game is a polished korean grinder - of course the rating will fall once people beging to realize it.

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3000 ppl waiting on every server 3 hours on queue everyday waiting to play seem to disagree with you, but then again everyone is entitled to their opinion.

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Easy dumbed down games have been always more accessible to the average masses.
 

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Well yeah, the game is to have fun, not for personal fulfillment and development for that I have my job and my goals everyday, if all of those ppl come home and have fun playing the game then it already filled its purpose as an entretainment tool.
You are a great example of the vocal minority I talked about where you will bash at anything mainstream for the sake of it, dumbdown or not its a game if ppl are playing they are obviously having fun and thats what a game should provide not an elaborate maths problem, if I want challenges I will actually do something that contributes towards my personal development not play a game. Or do you think yourself above average because you play a different game? LOL.

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They do, and a difficult game is what makes them happy because they have no real self-fulfilment in the real world. That is the reason we have some epeen strutters running about our games. There is a place for those games, no doubt, but it is usually because of this. I am not saying that everyone that wants a harder game is like this, and I am not saying it is necessarily bad on its face. The problem when these people, usually children that do not have careers to challenge them, think they are better than other gamers when they want a more difficult game, or a maths problem, as you said.

I want a skill-based world, not a theme park like WoW, but that is not because WoW is a bad game or that I think the people that play it are stupid just for playing it. That sort of game does not appeal to me on a different more fundamental level. Frankly, I am annoyed at the "WoW clones" that are becoming so prevalent, because I hate the idea of having so many games that are so very similar.

The reason I want a fleshed-out world is that I am a roleplayer and theme parks are terrible for roleplaying. Just imagine, in WoW, everyone has done the same epic things, killed the same incredibly powerful monsters. When everyone's course is the same, roleplaying is a ridiculous concept, even though there are roleplayers there. How can you roleplay evil when the only quests are those that are those of heroes. It is very rare to have a quest that is something an evil person would really do. Or what if you want to roleplay some more specific concepts, it will be difficult in places because you are "on a rail."

 Speaking of rating and I don't want to derail here. 

But if AION is going down how in the world is Atlantica online evening off with Lotro. I've plaid both and to me and probably that's why it seams wierd .. .but to me they are not equal in popularity. 

Anyways happy hunting /dance  <-- hahah I love that emote. 

Ok now I'm a true believer of the OP. 

Look at it today down another 5 spots at 8.24 hehehe

Does mmorpg boost up ratings for new releases then rely on the hate to gage where it should be? Course I don't know but anyways, it sure makes something interesting to observe. 

Originally posted by xcopymmo

 Speaking of rating and I don't want to derail here. 

But if AION is going down how in the world is Atlantica online evening off with Lotro. I've plaid both and to me and probably that's why it seams wierd .. .but to me they are not equal in popularity. 

 

Anyways happy hunting /dance  <-- hahah I love that emote. 

Probably because these ratings mean absolutely nothing .....

I mean the top 2 games havnt even been released yet, so how would anyone know if their good or not?

It's a hype meter, the rating should be null.

There is nothing to "hype" the game is released.