Originally posted by stillkillin

my friends $OE has shown me something

they have shown me that them along with micro$oft and ea are more then willing to rip players off to lie to players and to treat us like we are the worst thing ever and i am sick of it i am sick of mico$oft stealing money from people i am sick of ea coming out with bad games and telling people how they want to play it and most of all i am sick of $OE lying and stealing from we the players who make there game.

raph koster once said it is us the players that make the game it is we players who made swg one of the most beloved mmos of all time before it was stolen from us. and yes it was stolen from us my friends it was stolen from us and turned into that pos nge cuz $OE wanted to make the wow players and the action gamers who came into our game happy.

this is why i said years ago jump to lightspeed was going to be the worst move $OE could make for our game. i told people that all that would bring in are the action gamers who will start making demands and ruin our game. and they got it with the nge and look at what $OE did.

250k players gone over night

everyone losing almost everything that they have worked years for

and now look at the game all $OE does is lie to the player base and say everything is fine as bioware makes the nge 2.0 and $OE sells lame card packs that idiots hope will have the new uber loot that will help them win in pvp.

no more my friends.

this site and this board is where we need to come united and say no more to those ruining our games. we have done a great job for the last 4 years but now we have to go out and show the world that we the players want our game back and for our game to stay the way it is.

say it whenever you can in any game you play we want pre-cu swg

Wow dude, no one is stealing from you/us - we pay these companies that you speak of. We are not forced to pay, we are not forced to play.

We take a stand simply by not playing or quitting their games.... SWG sucked from the get go - the slow pace of the game killed it for me - then when jedi's were opened up to everyone - that made it a sure bet that I don't even consider playing this trash game.

I was hoping for more - and look forward to the old republic...

Originally posted by kilun

JTL killed the game?  JTL is awesome, I've resubscribed just to get my old xwing-tie fighter itch in a newer game done.

CU was the start of the downfall.  I quit with that horrible partical effect remove of the queue trash.  I resubbed a month before the NGE and tried to have fun, but after being an Armorsmith since launch and having all my resources now utter trash since they switched up the entire recipes(thankfully between WS and AS you could get semi decent stuff) it was a bore.

I'm sorry but once SOE back is against the wall and they lose a lot of subscribers once SWTOR is released., it would not surprise me that they open a pre-cu server to try to keep the game alive, or even after one of the emulators go live and they see hard data on how many people are playing.  This clone wars free realms type could be a nice addition, if they incorporate some of the basic advanced crafting and lots/harvesters I can see it becoming a swg2, or it could be a pile if its just a cheap action game. 

Yeah, but heres the kicker.... many of us that would have gone back about a year or so ago wouldnt any more if they opened up a pre cu server... why?

Well its quite simple: "Rolling back to the pre cu is out of the question, we don't even have that old code" <--- stated by smed at some point.

So if they did that they would have admitted lying to us in a very big way. And many of us would just give them a big middle finger and tell them where to shove it.

That is... not that we arent already telling them that :p

Originally posted by ferndip

Ugh really, how is this constructive?

Originally posted by ArcheusCross

Originally posted by ferndip

 

Ugh really, how is this constructive?

it is not

they do not understand that we are the ones who have driven $OE into the ground and we will do that again if we are ever ripped off in the sameway. not only that fanbois and fanbots can never understand how wonderful the pre-cu was

Yes it's beating the dead horse, but we have the right to do so.

I'm growing more annoyed due to the fact that every new game are catering to noobness and the challenge factor are disappearing. The Call of Duty * series for example, CoD4 and World at War are such nub games it isn't even funny and Modern Warfare 2 will be just as bad (they sold out on pre-orders of the $200 prestige limited edition!), Gears of War 2, Halo *, etc. Not only that, but companies are taking advantage of paid DLC, just like MMO RMT/microtransactions. IMO Team Fortress 2 is one of the last good FPS games out there right now.

I just wish that greedy companies would realize that money isn't easy to earn these days and $15/mo x(number of subscribers) should be plenty enough, the kind of extra money they get are from addicted customers that buys TCG packs and whatnot.

For me, Publish 9 was a huge step towards the wrong direction.

It is there where you see once and for all where the focus of development was heading towards (Jedi) at the expense of everything else.

It is from there where publish after publish was catered towards Jedi, receiving many passes.  When the NGE finally hit the fan, some of the regular professions had not received any passes / revamps.

It is there where the Jedi population skyrocketed and nothing would keep them in check ever again.  Not even the BHs.

I'd concur the first horrible sign of a downward spiral was the Holocrons.

Second would be Publish 9.

Third would be the CU.

The 3 signs of the pending apocalypse that was the NGE, which caught practically everyone offguard, like a knife in the back while sleeping.

Originally posted by sookster54

Yes it's beating the dead horse, but we have the right to do so.

I'm growing more annoyed due to the fact that every new game are catering to noobness and the challenge factor are disappearing. The Call of Duty * series for example, CoD4 and World at War are such nub games it isn't even funny and Modern Warfare 2 will be just as bad (they sold out on pre-orders of the $200 prestige limited edition!), Gears of War 2, Halo *, etc. Not only that, but companies are taking advantage of paid DLC, just like MMO RMT/microtransactions. IMO Team Fortress 2 is one of the last good FPS games out there right now.

I just wish that greedy companies would realize that money isn't easy to earn these days and $15/mo x(number of subscribers) should be plenty enough, the kind of extra money they get are from addicted customers that buys TCG packs and whatnot.

As far as FPS goes, I've gone back to BF2 with the 1.5 patch.  Still fun.

But personally, I've always been a fan of realistic stuff.  Looking forward to try Operation Flashpoint 2.  Nubs hate realism.

And no, having a beautiful game model of a heavily accessorized M4 equal Realism.

Speaking of greed, have you heard about the price gouging for Modern Warfare 2?  Wasn't planning on buying the game, but it's hilarious to watch people b**ch and moan about it, but you know will go out and buy it.  Even better considering the CEO of Activision openly said that's what's going to happen, lots of unhappy people about the high price ($60 US for a STANDARD PC version) yet they'll buy it like obedient choad boys.

Alot of dudes will be slurping it up for Activision Score another one for corporate greed!

It is funny seeing people complain about a company so call stealing there money and ripping them off but yet it isent like thay got a gun to there heads forcing them, So my point is if you dont like it dont buy it in 1st place.

Originally posted by greed0104

Lol? So now it's JTL fault? Wow dude, you're full of surprises everytime you post.

I approve this message

Originally posted by charlespayne

It is funny seeing people complain about a company so call stealing there money and ripping them off but yet it isent like thay got a gun to there heads forcing them, So my point is if you dont like it dont buy it in 1st place.

That fails because they did this way past launch

Originally posted by charlespayne

It is funny seeing people complain about a company so call stealing there money and ripping them off but yet it isent like thay got a gun to there heads forcing them, So my point is if you dont like it dont buy it in 1st place.

It's one thing when people pay for a product and service, have been happily using it, then all of the sudden, have it changed for something totally inferior as well as completely, radically different.

You are right in that we weren't forced to keep paying SOE for SWG.  That's why the majority of the players left and never came back.  What was once an MMO that was considered to have a decently sized population went to an MMO with a pitifully small population.  SWG never had WoW numbers, but at 250k subs, it was healthy.  But SOE doesn't have to worry about that population anymore, since there's barely any left.

Our wallets did the talkin'!

Originally posted by stillkillin

Originally posted by ArcheusCross

Originally posted by ferndip

 

Ugh really, how is this constructive?

 

it is not

they do not understand that we are the ones who have driven $OE into the ground and we will do that again if we are ever ripped off in the sameway. not only that fanbois and fanbots can never understand how wonderful the pre-cu was

Pre-CU was good. I would hesitate to call it "wonderful."

Originally posted by kobie173 

 

Pre-CU was good. I would hesitate to call it "wonderful."

There are a lot of mmos that release in terrible condition, but have great potential to turn into great games.

Despite the horrible condition that the game was in, the gameplay was wonderful.  The community was wonderful.  There were many wonderful aspects with the game. 

The company running the game did just about everything possible to not fix the problems that were holding the game back.   If the pre-cu game had even 1/3 of the effort spent on the countless revamps and last several years, it would blow many games out of the water.

Originally posted by Deestroy

Originally posted by warty

why are you posting here when you could be signing up for SWTOR beta right fucking now?

 

 

Probably because TOR is going to be an EZ mode raid progression grind with little or no use for crafting.

Not to mention a clone of the WoW faction system, it is everything NGE aspired to be and more. 

Sad for Star Wars really, very sad.

While neither of us truly knows, the Devs did state there would be crafting. I have high hopes for ToR. TBH, after playing NGE:SWG, ToR will be NO worse mate. Don't give up on it before it's released and don't expect it to be preCU/CU SWG either. It's a different game altogether.