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  Jackio81

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Joined: 11/11/08
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The MMO genre as a whole is a running joke considering a 5+ year old game is so dominant.

9/28/09 4:54:55 PM#41

Well I did watch this one video on youtube where they were asked about it I believe at blizzcom. What they told the interviewer is what they've been brainstorming about and it seems they've even talked about a possible MMOFPS or MMORTS, so let's see what turns out.

 

Actually let me see if I can hunt down that youtube video, give me a sec...=)

  Ihmotepp

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9/28/09 5:28:19 PM#42
Originally posted by Jackio81

Well I did watch this one video on youtube where they were asked about it I believe at blizzcom. What they told the interviewer is what they've been brainstorming about and it seems they've even talked about a possible MMOFPS or MMORTS, so let's see what turns out.

 

Actually let me see if I can hunt down that youtube video, give me a sec...=)

 

That would be the smart thing to do. A MMOFPS or MMRTS doesn't compete with WoW, since it is an MMORPG.

  User Deleted
9/28/09 5:35:12 PM#43

I don't play wow simply because of the design philosophy they followed (they just don't develop anything in the game that interests me anymore they have always just added on to what they have but never really add anything new) but I do agree with a few posters here people who complain about Blizzard are foolish to say the least they put out some of the most polished product on the market and if the concept interests me I will try it out but I am fairly certain I won't play for long after that they just don't follow a pattern I'm comfortable with from a design standpoint and I highly doubt they will next time.  I would certainly love though to see a World Of Starcraft and have heard people say that would be either very difficult or impossible which I don't believe if SOE pulled off SWG (as it were) then Blizz could design a Starcraft with multiple planets and such.

  Teala

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9/28/09 6:52:09 PM#44

I once speculated on one of my blog articles about Blizzards next game and I think I got it wrong and here is why and it comes from one statement.   Someone from Blizzard said that their new game would be aimed at even a larger market than WoW currently has because the game would have "greater appeal" to more people.    So I do not think it will be a sandbox game as I once thought because sandbox games really do not have that kind of greater appeal to more people.

This leads me to think it is some kind of persistent world FPS(FPS games are played more than any other games currently on the market) or it will be a sports game based on soccer.  I could be totally off base here, but those are the only two things I can think of right off hand that will appeal to more people than WoW.

  camp11111

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9/28/09 7:26:30 PM#45

WotLK and its patches learned me one thing:

The more accessable you make a game and its parts, the more you find players who want to group with you....

WOTLK had something new for a 5 year old mmo in group play:

The simple message ....

"No more dungeons can be launched at this time" because everyone and his dog was motivated to do heroic dungeons and intro Raids with a PUG rated succes rate of 90% without too much dying.

Think about it: you all want to group. But you can't group with ease if you only offer hardcore.

That's why they mentioned "mainstream".

 

 

Want a real mmorpg? Play WOW with experience turned off mode and be Pve_Pvp King at any level without a rat race.

  GreenChaos

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9/28/09 7:43:25 PM#46
Originally posted by skarwolf

 Jeff Kaplan was the lead quest desginer, left WOW for blizzards next gen and yet unannounced MMO.  Given the success of WOW what could they possibly be working on ?  Anyone know or care to speculate ?


 

Considering how slow Blizzard is moving these days, despite all of their income, I'm guessing we won't see it for at least 10 years, perhaps more. At that point who cares really.

  skarwolf

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Posts: 248

 
9/28/09 8:02:45 PM#47

 I remember reading about Starcraft Ghost year or so ago and telling my friend at work about it.  Only to learn they scrapped that project.  Why ?  I'm thinking that perhaps thats where they're going.  World of Starcraft.  They could do it and it'd be great. 

They could make the game like DAOC with three main factions, Terran, Protoss & Zerg.

Then split them up based on the different classes.

Doing a search for World of Starcraft brings up various results like a youtube video that apparently shows gameplay and some articles.

 

  Jackio81

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Joined: 11/11/08
Posts: 437

The MMO genre as a whole is a running joke considering a 5+ year old game is so dominant.

9/28/09 8:11:47 PM#48
Originally posted by skarwolf

 I remember reading about Starcraft Ghost year or so ago and telling my friend at work about it.  Only to learn they scrapped that project.  Why ?  I'm thinking that perhaps thats where they're going.  World of Starcraft.  They could do it and it'd be great. 

They could make the game like DAOC with three main factions, Terran, Protoss & Zerg.

Then split them up based on the different classes.

Doing a search for World of Starcraft brings up various results like a youtube video that apparently shows gameplay and some articles.

 

 

They've already announced it won't be one of their older IPs, so unless they go back on the statement there won't be any Starcraft or Diablo MMO.

The reason SC Ghost was scrapped was because it just wasn't building to being a good game, and I've seen the videos of gameplay. It looked like a weak Mass Effect with a bit of Metal Gear thrown in, I guess Blizz still isn't very good at making shooters....=/

  Zhqrxt

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9/29/09 4:05:23 AM#49
Originally posted by Jackio81

 

They've already announced it won't be one of their older IPs, so unless they go back on the statement there won't be any Starcraft or Diablo MMO.

The reason SC Ghost was scrapped was because it just wasn't building to being a good game, and I've seen the videos of gameplay. It looked like a weak Mass Effect with a bit of Metal Gear thrown in, I guess Blizz still isn't very good at making shooters....=/


 

..Yes but you forget that the game is as old as WoW. It was due to release in 2003. Its engine performed Graphic which on a mmo lvl is - imo ( and completely subjective), compareable at the very least with Fallen Earth, maybe even a stylished version of Tabular Rasa. However i agree that the games content looked like a niche. A Platform/shooter thing which is made by the bundle and never really finds more then average sale. I simply think it was scrapped because the game didnt have potentiel to be something extraordinary, there was a risk the game would end up as "the most forgetable Blizzard game".

Someone mentioned a Fps mmo, a wagon i could be on. It would have broader appeal, especially if it contains the typical rps elements - so if you arent that good at making snap quick headshots, you can craft a shotgun which blow everthing away in a huge radius, you could be a medic/healer or something like that. The game would allso work fine as cybersport, it would be fun to watch since it would be fairly skillbased.

Always fun to try and predict a Blizzard game. They attract the best of the best in the field (on a site as CGtalk.com Blizzard intertainment actually seems more atractive then Lucas art, when it comes to high profiled jobs) and have money to support it. And usualy they end up surprising everybody in the end.

 

 

  camp11111

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Joined: 9/24/09
Posts: 638

9/29/09 4:17:08 AM#50
Originally posted by Zhqrxt


 

..Yes but you forget that the game is as old as WoW. It was due to release in 2003. Its engine performed Graphic which on a mmo lvl is - imo ( and completely subjective), compareable at the very least with Fallen Earth, maybe even a stylished version of Tabular Rasa. However i agree that the games content looked like a niche. A Platform/shooter thing which is made by the bundle and never really finds more then average sale. I simply think it was scrapped because the game didnt have potentiel to be something extraordinary, there was a risk the game would end up as "the most forgetable Blizzard game".

Someone mentioned a Fps mmo, a wagon i could be on. It would have broader appeal, especially if it contains the typical rps elements - so if you arent that good at making snap quick headshots, you can craft a shotgun which blow everthing away in a huge radius, you could be a medic/healer or something like that. The game would allso work fine as cybersport, it would be fun to watch since it would be fairly skillbased.

Always fun to try and predict a Blizzard game. They attract the best of the best in the field (on a site as CGtalk.com Blizzard intertainment actually seems more atractive then Lucas art, when it comes to high profiled jobs) and have money to support it. And usualy they end up surprising everybody in the end.

 

 


 

Wrong track. Mainstream is mainstream: everyone can play and everyone can find his/her tuning.

Do you know many grandma's who play FPS or sports games. I don't?

I know grandma's on DS brain trainer  though.

The tric is to appeal to everyone from casual to hardcore (scaling) and from teenager to grand daddy.

Because even tomorrow's grand daddy played on a computer as a teenage kid.

Massively played online alternate reality with extreme different options of play and rewards for everyone. Perhaps even for the handicapped.

That's all we know for now.

 

Want a real mmorpg? Play WOW with experience turned off mode and be Pve_Pvp King at any level without a rat race.

  Addt4

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Joined: 8/06/06
Posts: 99

9/29/09 5:08:24 AM#51

They have no incentive to produce another MMO right now, even though I personally think WOW is crap, it still turns over a massive profit for them. WOW2 or whatever would cost them development money that they dont need to spend.

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  bongo123

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Joined: 2/26/06
Posts: 300

9/29/09 7:25:57 AM#52
Originally posted by Addt4

They have no incentive to produce another MMO right now, even though I personally think WOW is crap, it still turns over a massive profit for them. WOW2 or whatever would cost them development money that they dont need to spend.

yes because companies never think of the future or invest in it...

whatever it is Blizz is working on you can be sure of several things..

a: It'll be bloody great right out of the box

b: It'll be the first mmo in years that can actually be called a WOW killer

c: It will sell tons

I personally cannot wait for it but its gotta be at least 2years away

  Securion

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Joined: 12/10/08
Posts: 218

9/29/09 8:29:35 AM#53

The questions is; Is it possible to make a game more casual than WOW? If so, how? Auto-play button?

  garrett

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Joined: 6/30/09
Posts: 148

9/29/09 11:31:29 AM#54

 

With Vivendi now owning the company there are a lot of approvals that have to go into place before a new IP gets done.

My guess is some kind of Sci-Fi game.

Did you ever seen the stills and artwork for Blizzard's scrapped "Nomad" project.

It was Sci-Fi.

 

 

  Swoogie

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Joined: 11/07/08
Posts: 402

9/29/09 12:14:37 PM#55
Originally posted by garrett

 

With Vivendi now owning the company there are a lot of approvals that have to go into place before a new IP gets done.

My guess is some kind of Sci-Fi game.

Did you ever seen the stills and artwork for Blizzard's scrapped "Nomad" project.

It was Sci-Fi.

 

 


 

Could you give some more info on nomad? I would like a Sci-fi MMO by Blizz. I havent found a superb one since SWG, I tend to like fantasy.

  Lille7

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Joined: 12/08/08
Posts: 285

9/30/09 12:12:01 PM#56
Originally posted by Jackio81
Originally posted by skarwolf

 I remember reading about Starcraft Ghost year or so ago and telling my friend at work about it.  Only to learn they scrapped that project.  Why ?  I'm thinking that perhaps thats where they're going.  World of Starcraft.  They could do it and it'd be great. 

They could make the game like DAOC with three main factions, Terran, Protoss & Zerg.

Then split them up based on the different classes.

Doing a search for World of Starcraft brings up various results like a youtube video that apparently shows gameplay and some articles.

 

 

They've already announced it won't be one of their older IPs, so unless they go back on the statement there won't be any Starcraft or Diablo MMO.

The reason SC Ghost was scrapped was because it just wasn't building to being a good game, and I've seen the videos of gameplay. It looked like a weak Mass Effect with a bit of Metal Gear thrown in, I guess Blizz still isn't very good at making shooters....=/

 

As far as i know SC: Ghost wasnt officially scrapped, it's just on indefinite hold ;)

  Fein

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Joined: 9/08/07
Posts: 3

9/30/09 1:21:56 PM#57
Originally posted by neo750a

they said that its something that noones ever done before in a MMO.

 

Steampunk? I hope it is a true steampunk setting!

If you are reading this, congratulations, you have baited a lurker!

  braggo1994

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Joined: 9/29/09
Posts: 15

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9/30/09 4:01:55 PM#58

i hope its good :)

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  skydragonren

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9/30/09 4:09:17 PM#59

I am personally hoping for an MMOFPS version based off the Starcraft Universe.

 

As in Terran vs Zerg vs Protoss in a 3 faction war with 1st and 3rd person perspectives based on player pref.

 

Could you imagine running around as a ghost fraggin the hell out of a Zealot.

 

Vehicles, multiple planets to explore. Zerg could fly around in alien type spores, terrans in spaceships, protoss in spaceships. Could have space battle in vehicles, or land it on a nearby planet and take the fight to the ground, fighting over zone control and end result planetary control.

 

It would be awesome.

  luciusETRUR

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9/30/09 4:16:45 PM#60
Originally posted by Securion

The questions is; Is it possible to make a game more casual than WOW? If so, how? Auto-play button?

WoW has only recently become casual with the expansion Wrath of the Lich King, and they only brought casual-options, the core of the content, the really good stuff so to speak, is hardly casual. If you look at the history of WoW raiding, which is really where the game shines, in classic and BC it was an extremely hardcore and time-consuming game. WotLK brought a new dimension in that easy modes could be done by casual 10 and 25-man guilds, and even pugged a few months after they were released. 
 

 

To call the game "casual" makes the assumption that the entire game is casual. That is hardly the case, defeating Yogg +1 or +0 pre-3.2 was hardly a casual feat, and defeating Algalon on 25-man was hardly casual, either. ToC is obviously on scale easier than Ulduar, but that was intended. They are busy creating Icecrown which will most likely be as difficult (on hard-modes) as was Ulduar.

I don't care much for World of Warcraft, anymore, but to say it is casual.. is wrong, it is casual-friendly now, but it is far from a casual video game.

 

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