Originally posted by Securion

Originally posted by apocalance

Unless you can disable nudity in the game, I'll have no part of MO for sure. I have kids and I don't want them walking in to see these types of thing in my "game". It doesn't make sense to be there in the first place, so it's a deal breaker for me.

Tits are bad for them, right? But blood and gore is ok i guess?

Of course it's bad for them! The nude body is an ugly, horrible and scary thing - unlike murdering animals and wiping out entire races because you don't see eye to eye with them.

MO stands for "Mature Only" now it seems... and those who aren't mature enough to understand that nudity ISN'T worse than killing people are more than welcome to not play. (To be honest, it's best you don't come as even if you get over the nudity issue, I'm sure people will find some way to simulate necrophilia after they've taken everything and left your dead character naked... all the more reason to yet again roll a male).

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Tits are bad for them, right? But blood and gore is ok i guess?

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Blood and gore is something you SHOULDN'T be doing in real life while sex is. So watching porn in video games is bad yes, while looking at blood & gore is fine.

Originally posted by scuubeedoo

 

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Tits are bad for them, right? But blood and gore is ok i guess?

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Blood and gore is something you SHOULDN'T be doing in real life while sex is. So watching porn in video games is bad yes, while looking at blood & gore is fine.
 

What? Firstly that logic is so flawed it's quite scary. Secondly, if that's your idea of porn you have lived a sheltered life and have some serious net filter software going on there.

Ooooh, nudity! I've seen better. Though its kind of refreshing that you can actually strip someone to their bare skin after you clobber them on the high road. Talk about the glorious life of banditry!

That said, devs have said there will be basic clothing readily available for the more chaste. Now, if only they flag naked people grey (so you can kill them in towns without guards intervening) everything will be just fine. As soon as someone tries to dance naked on a table or in the street, use them as a target practice dummy.

Graphically wise, I think the beta looks just fine. Expectations are just too high these days - that why we are constantly getting games which have spent 100 million $ on graphics and 500$ on actual content. Personally I am more excited by the sandbox concept of the game, reminds me of Ultima. Plus the vistas are just incredible... I don't remember seeing a mountain I actually wanted to climb just for kicks in a MMO.

Also, keep in minds that mega-crisp graphics and MMO's don't mix, unless you like slideshows as soon as you actually try to interact (read: beat the crap out of) with more than three other players. MO caters to the PvP crowd, and we usually turn things down to get smooth framerate anyway.

Originally posted by ManSh00ter

Graphically wise, I think the beta looks just fine. Expectations are just too high these days - that why we are constantly getting games which have spent 100 million $ on graphics and 500$ on actual content. Personally I am more excited by the sandbox concept of the game, reminds me of Ultima. Plus the vistas are just incredible... I don't remember seeing a mountain I actually wanted to climb just for kicks in a MMO.

Also, keep in minds that mega-crisp graphics and MMO's don't mix, unless you like slideshows as soon as you actually try to interact (read: beat the crap out of) with more than three other players. MO caters to the PvP crowd, and we usually turn things down to get smooth framerate anyway.

I don't think it's too much to ask for a game that looks and plays well. I always ran AoC on high, and had no problems with framerate (and my computer is definitely mid-range at this point). Do I think that AoC is a great game? Not necessarily. I'd say it's good in some areas, but poorly implemented in others. What it does show, however, is that an mmorpg can look awesome. It just needs to be handled correctly. It's time for some hugely rich, successful company to do it right (Blizzard, I'm looking at you...)

Originally posted by Ozmodan

You had to know that someone would try it.  Again it is a MMO, there is no way for the producers to prevent the 12 year old from playing the game and acting out his silly fantasies making a fool out of himself.

Just another reason why this game will implode on release.  This game is not hardcore, it is stupidcore.

How is it stupidcore, they are trying to make the game as realistic as possible and considering some of their races in the game nudity compliments that, indian tribes even now some wear barely anything and you can see tits on regular TV without an M rating or even R rating.

It's not the producers job to make sure a 12 year old doesn't play this game, its their parents.

Originally posted by Cacolaco

Originally posted by ManSh00ter

Graphically wise, I think the beta looks just fine. Expectations are just too high these days - that why we are constantly getting games which have spent 100 million $ on graphics and 500$ on actual content. Personally I am more excited by the sandbox concept of the game, reminds me of Ultima. Plus the vistas are just incredible... I don't remember seeing a mountain I actually wanted to climb just for kicks in a MMO.

Also, keep in minds that mega-crisp graphics and MMO's don't mix, unless you like slideshows as soon as you actually try to interact (read: beat the crap out of) with more than three other players. MO caters to the PvP crowd, and we usually turn things down to get smooth framerate anyway.

 

I don't think it's too much to ask for a game that looks and plays well. I always ran AoC on high, and had no problems with framerate (and my computer is definitely mid-range at this point). Do I think that AoC is a great game? Not necessarily. I'd say it's good in some areas, but poorly implemented in others. What it does show, however, is that an mmorpg can look awesome. It just needs to be handled correctly. It's time for some hugely rich, successful company to do it right (Blizzard, I'm looking at you...)

You will never get that from Blizzard, they have their own art style that basically limits them from making a game thats looks close to AoC. Their future MMO will probably be another cartoon.

Originally posted by mrw0lf

Originally posted by scuubeedoo

 

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Tits are bad for them, right? But blood and gore is ok i guess?

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Blood and gore is something you SHOULDN'T be doing in real life while sex is. So watching porn in video games is bad yes, while looking at blood & gore is fine.
 

 

What? Firstly that logic is so flawed it's quite scary. Secondly, if that's your idea of porn you have lived a sheltered life and have some serious net filter software going on there.

The logic is flawed and that is the point.  This is how society is now, sex and nudity is the devils work yet every time you turn on the news you see some guy beheaded in the streets or the gory scene of a mass murder.  Kids are aware how sexual activities work from the TV what they are not aware of are the repercussions.  The parents should be teaching them precautions instead of keeping it a dark secret.

I blame this whole stupid argument about "is Nudity right or not?" on Eve and her eating that damn apple.

People are taking the whole nudity totally out of proportion. Its not like people have an emote of /erection or something like that. This isn't sex sure some people will screw around with it and what not but the developer isn't designing it around sex. Even in WoW you find sex and its a fucking cartoon so I don't really get the arguement.

I personally would much rather show my children naked people than showing me decapitating someone. I mean comon I am pretty sure your kid has seen you naked more than once whats the problem with them seeing a naked computer model.

Two things that I would like to comment on:

1.  This whole immaturaty towards nudity is just rediculous.  I mean seriously, it seems the older people are the ones that are more immature about it than someone who's 16.  Also, this bullshit with, i have kids and i don't want them to walk in on me playing and there's boobs or penis on the screen is just the most retarded thing i have ever heard.  How about this, he walks in and you are chopping someone's fucking head off and blood splashes on your screen, you ok with him seeing that?  If not you shouldn't play MO in the first place cause that happens in the game as well.  Also, be a fucking parent and pay attention to your kids or lock the door instead of playing an MMO and letting your kids run freely around the house. 

You have 2 options as a parent, lock your fucking door and have you babies daddy or husband watch the kids while you play your game.  Is it really that hard to prevent a kid from seeing you play a computer game or is it that you're not fit enough to be a parent and maybe should have never had kids.

2.  The graphics of this game are just fine.  It's beta people and ealry beta at that, the graphics are set to lowest possible and the textures are not good atm.  They still have to add plenty of things and give us the option to turn up the graphics to make it look all pretty.  Now, the textures suck atm but at least look at the sky in the game, that won't change and the rest of the game will match up with how nice that look once all the options are in.

Regardless of where anyone stands on the nudity issue, I would place my money that MO will never release in the U.S. with full nudity.

Personally, the nudity in and of itself does not bother me. What would be annoying as hell would be the putzes that WILL antagonize any and everyone, just for their own jollies.

It is bad enough without full nudity in the games we have now.

Just saying...

Originally posted by Respit

Regardless of where anyone stands on the nudity issue, I would place my money that MO will never release in the U.S. with full nudity.

Personally, the nudity in and of itself does not bother me. What would be annoying as hell would be the putzes that WILL antagonize any and everyone, just for their own jollies.

It is bad enough without full nudity in the games we have now.

 

Just saying...

From my understanding of following this game is the game won't be released in stores anywhere. It will be all digital distribution.

Game has some nice graphics.  The nudity issue doesnt bother  me and I think a lot of people are getting shook up over nothing.  So while its optional I dont think you will see 200 naked toons in a group grope going on.  In fact, nudity in that time period is most likely more accurate  than some would like to believe.  Paganism was pretty much the order of the day in ancient times.

I predict epic t-bagging in this game's future.