Originally posted by Thillian

How is this different from Tabula Rasa / AoC instanced world again, which was heavily flamed here?

Selective memory I guess=)  Those who flamed AOC for this particular feature would be hypocrites.

Originally posted by Thillian

All right, so I assume the game has the same crappy instanced world as Age of Conan? Once a zone is filled up with players (let's say 100), it opens up a new instance/channel. Why don't people mind that suddently? I remember all the hate on AoC and Tabula Rasa especially for that.

Apparently the clarification isn't very clear.

Thillian...

In the starter areas going on to the next  new player area, you will find channels. This is very much like Guild wars. However that is where the channels end. everywhere else is one area where everyone in the area is actually there. Channels end with the noob area and the first area after. The abyss has no channels, eltinen has no channels, Theobomos has no channels (this is elyos side). The same goes for the corresponding asmo side.

Originally posted by Thillian

Originally posted by beauxaj

Originally posted by Thillian

All right, so I assume the game has the same crappy instanced world as Age of Conan? Once a zone is filled up with players (let's say 100), it opens up a new instance/channel. Why don't people mind that suddently? I remember all the hate on AoC and Tabula Rasa especially for that.

 

Remember what Assuming does.   Channels are only available in the "starter "zones areas where there would be a lot of competition for PvE mobs during the leveling phase. The Main cities, Abyss, and lvl 30+ areas are all 1 world.   People aren't complaining because they don't want to wait in line to "kill quest mob XZ24" when they are just trying to get to the end game things. 

Also it makes for interesting farming in certain ways.  Random boss who drops blues not there on chan 1?  Try the next.

and ... is that "interesting farming" supposed to be an advantage of instanced zones? 

  Actually the "interesting  farming" is a side effect that is only available in the lowbie areas.   I answered your question and added a little extra for those who hadn't thought of it.   If you chose to only concentrate on the fact that the low level areas are instanced that is a problem that you have.   You asked why people don't mind the instances I gave you an answer that is more than likely the reason people don't mind them. 

You still did not answer me how is this different from the instanced world of Tabula Rasa (which in fact did not have instances in higher level zones either) and was heavily flamed here. Because of that, I have to assume again and agree with what Josher said. Selective memory. You would even call it an advantage here right?

aion is a wow clone

Originally posted by Thillian

You still did not answer me how is this different from the instanced world of Tabula Rasa (which in fact did not have instances in higher level zones either) and was heavily flamed here. Because of that, I have to assume again and agree with what Josher said. Selective memory. You would even call it an advantage here right?

I can't answer that question as I didn't play tabula rasa. I can only tell you what I know. Aion has channels for noob areas and one additional area after you become a daeva. Thereafter it's all one world. So if Tabula Rasa had channels a la guild wars for the noob area and one additonal area before you went into the wider world then they are exactly the same. If it didn't then they are not.

The extremist instance-hatemongers can't be expected to show up in every thread, jeez.

If "instance" was in this thread's title I assure you they'd be here decrying the game as a travesty against MMORPGs and a devolution of the genre.

Originally posted by Dark-Asylum

aion is a wow clone

lol!flying while fighting ,pvp etc

ya right it is a wow clone i did abyss kind of fight all last season lol(sarcasm)

will you guys give wow a rest (

Originally posted by Lansid

Originally posted by Hellrazor27

Hey everyone,i dont post too much on here but i felt i should give my opinion on Aion from my experiance in game.

There has been a lot of talk about Aion being a "WoW clone" or "WoW 2" and while something will remind you of WoW,Aion is very much not WoW.I've always been a gamer that like to play "risk for reward" PvP games,i've played Neocron,UO ,Shadowbane and Darkfall to name a few,so when hearing about Aion and they hype behind it turned me off about the game.

It took a lot of begging on some of my friends parts but they got me to try Aion,and i must say they have done a very good job with blending a lot of things i like about MMO's,and belive it or not ....there is risk i PvP .So maybe its not full loot,but  there higher level you are the more you risk (meaning if you die you going to pay a ton of gold to get a soul heal and you also going to take a nasty hit on your abyss points ,and that could be hours of work ,or worse yet ....you set them back so they cant obtain that new peice of gear they wanted ).

So in short i want to let people know that you should choose for yourself to try it or not  and dont belive the BS for so called 'hardcore gamers" ....because this game has some hardcore values and i myself think its a very good step in belinding what everyone likes about MMO's.

OP, I was a SB vet, how is it in similarity to that?

Not really too meny similaritys to SB,i was just stating that i've came from and play what some people would call "Hardcore PvP " or "Nitche" games.My basic point is that its not all fluff and there is a lot of goos fun in the game .
 

PS .Yes most people will PvE there way to get there abyss points but that still dont mean that it wont make me happy when i kill there noob ass and they get to go grind for another 6 hours to get back to where they were.

Hardcore gamer's definition belongs to...

A crazy person with no life or someone who gives up their life to play the game without sleeping for 24 hours and beyond without taking care of their selves at all. So committed to playing the game that they love that it's scary and wrong.

Hardcore Game's definition belongs to either...

Hardcore mode: If you die in the game your character is deleted.

The game pulls you into it literally or it follows you around somehow on a floating screen.

:P

The game itself isn't really enthralling, and I don't see it beign as hardcore as some people think it will be.

Originally posted by drbaltazar

Originally posted by Dark-Asylum

aion is a wow clone

lol!flying while fighting ,pvp etc

ya right it is a wow clone i did abyss kind of fight all last season lol(sarcasm)

will you guys give wow a rest (

They'll give it a rest when you stop butchering the English language.  Deal?

For the people who keep mentioning linear level design: Play beyond level 10.

It's very obvious that up to level 10 is more of a tutorial, Which is why you don't get to pick your "real" class untill level 10.

Once you're level 10 you will be teleported out of the newbie zone and you will enter the big world, which is much more open ended than the starter areas.

Originally posted by Eben

Originally posted by drbaltazar

Originally posted by Dark-Asylum

aion is a wow clone

lol!flying while fighting ,pvp etc

ya right it is a wow clone i did abyss kind of fight all last season lol(sarcasm)

will you guys give wow a rest (

 

They'll give it a rest when you stop butchering the English language.  Deal?

since at least i try to write in a tong im not born with i dont see the issue

if you see one it because you ran out of argument about op subject

Originally posted by kakarotrage

Aion is just a korean version of a game that wishes to be wow but fails due to amazing linearity, instanced zones and just all too boring for anyone who  experienced wow.

NEEEXTTT

 

P.S

Wings... gee great

LoL, you'll get this a lot in game on the general chat, they'll go on for hours talking about AIon vs. WoW....and the funny thing is they don't leave....lol

Originally posted by Gameloading

For the people who keep mentioning linear level design: Play beyond level 10.

It's very obvious that up to level 10 is more of a tutorial, Which is why you don't get to pick your "real" class untill level 10.

Once you're level 10 you will be teleported out of the newbie zone and you will enter the big world, which is much more open ended than the starter areas.

Yet, right after you get your wings, the very next zone is just as linear as the tutorial, albeit a little more open.

Asmodians: Ishalgen (1-10)>Altgard (10-20)>Brusthonin (20-30)>Morheim (30-39)>Beluslan (40-50).

I haven't really played the Elyos side but I'm sure that it's the same.

I'm sorry but that is the epitome of linear game design.

Instanced zones do sound like the ones in AoC and CoX, but I never had a problem with those. They are not an advantage though as some are trying to paint here. With high end graphic games like AoC and Aion it is understandable that something has to give to allow the game to run smoothly.

I like the idea that in main cities and pvp areas there will not be instancing/channels, if I have got that right?

Originally posted by Gameloading

I encourage everyone to at least give Aion a try. I'm not saying that Aion will be the game you're looking for but at the very least, you're not dealing with an unpolished product like Warhammer or Age of Conan.

Although I suggest you don't try it right now because the servers are already quite full.

It's a very expensive price to pay for a "try", though.  As you say, the servers are utter crap at the moment, and I managed to log in only twice over the entire weekend - when you're 2231 in a queue of 2231 and the estimated time to get in is over the two-hour mark, well, I certainly wasn't going to sit and wait around for it.

One major word of warning is that the quests are the same old unsophisticated shit we've seen for nearly a decade - fed-ex this, kill 10 of that, grind mob, grind mob, grind mob.  What they hell they were thinking of when someone put that into a brand-new up baffles me. The game is pretty enough, mind you, but just about any Asian game can say that.  The sound effects in combat will have you turning the sound levels for those down to around 5% though, to avoid listening to your character screaming and grunting like a chimp in heat.

The game is a chore rather than a pleasant form of entertainment and my subs were cancelled within 30 minutes.  I've unenthusiastically got to lvl 12, just to see if the game is worth paying a monthly fee for, and so far I wouldn't play it all that much even if it went F2P. It's too simplistic and repetitive, up to now.  Even players who are lvl 20+ admit, if pushed, that the game stays pretty much the same.  It figures.

I might try the game but with everyone having wings and flying around like fairies? No thanks.

Originally posted by Dibdabs

Originally posted by Gameloading

I encourage everyone to at least give Aion a try. I'm not saying that Aion will be the game you're looking for but at the very least, you're not dealing with an unpolished product like Warhammer or Age of Conan.

Although I suggest you don't try it right now because the servers are already quite full.

It's a very expensive price to pay for a "try", though.  As you say, the servers are utter crap at the moment, and I managed to log in only twice over the entire weekend - when you're 2231 in a queue of 2231 and the estimated time to get in is over the two-hour mark, well, I certainly wasn't going to sit and wait around for it.

One major word of warning is that the quests are the same old unsophisticated shit we've seen for nearly a decade - fed-ex this, kill 10 of that, grind mob, grind mob, grind mob.  What they hell they were thinking of when someone put that into a brand-new up baffles me. The game is pretty enough, mind you, but just about any Asian game can say that.  The sound effects in combat will have you turning the sound levels for those down to around 5% though, to avoid listening to your character screaming and grunting like a chimp in heat.

The game is a chore than a pleasant form of entertainment and my subs were cancelled within 30 minutes.  I've unenthusiastically got to lvl 12, just to see if the game is worth paying a monthly fee for, and so far I wouldn't play it all that much even if it went F2P. It's too simplistic and repetitive, up to now.  Even players who are lvl 20+ admit, if pushed, that the game stays pretty much the same.  It figures.

Don't take THIS review as the one for this game, he even states in it himself he barely got out of the tutorial (1 to 10 is tutorial and he only got to 12).  Seriously biased review of a game he barely tried, just another bad opinion from someone who thinks they can review a game in the first 5 minutes of play. Seriously though, if you honestly think you 'experienced' this game in the short time you tried it than yes you should have cancelled your subs. Anybody who decides they hate something before they try it...hmm there is a word for that type of attitude isn't there...just can't remember what it is, oh yeah - prejudice.