Supposedly

Adults who are spanked have more fun.

Definitely

I was spanked, mine was over 130 when it was measured.  Are you saying if my parents didn't spank me I would have been Einstien?  BTW my nephews haven't been spanked, and they run around wild even though their father is also intelligent.

Maybe if you are spanking their heads.

Originally posted by Cleffy

I was spanked, mine was over 130 when it was measured.  Are you saying if my parents didn't spank me I would have been Einstien?  BTW my nephews haven't been spanked, and they run around wild even though their father is also intelligent.

Nah, I agree with spanking children to disciplne them as long as it's not done in anger.  I just saw the article and thought it would make a perfect segue into the other kind of spanking.  But I didn't want to come right out and start a thread solely for that reason.  What would people think?

I was spanked a lot. But I often had an above average score whenever I took IQ tests.

You opened up a big ole can of worms.  I 100% support spanking kids.  Asshole children don't get it unless there's some form of measurable punishment.  When I see kids acting out of control in Walmart, I just don't get it.  The parents basically beg their child to stop, the kids keeps throwing a fit, so the parent caves in and buys them whatever.  If I made a scene in public, I got one warning.  If I continued, we exited the store immediately, went home, and my dad got a belt. Then again, the jury seems to be pretty split on this issue. 

The egghead in the article assumes that if children were smart enough to make better decisions about their behavior that they automatically would choose the best behavior... instead of knowing something wasnt the best idea and doing it anyway because you're 5 and you figured it would be funny as hell.

My parents would punch me in the head.

Does that make a retard?

errr, i dont believe this. i was spanked as well when i was a kid and i have 130+ IQ as well. theres a lot of things to consider measuring IQ, not just this one.

I'm not against spanking. But spanking shouldn't be because of anger that you don't care wherever it hits. Maybe it can affect IQs, then again it could also be coincidence since there are lots more other factors that can affect a child's IQ.

Average, people, average. If you all have such genius-level IQs, surely, you'd understand advanced statistical methods and how variables work and how they are minimised in the social sciences. You'd surely understand what 'average' means, and how you as an N=1 are not representative of all people who were spanked. It does not even claim to have a one on one relation - merely one small but noticable variable.

I agree the social sciences are largely hokum, but the people behind it are not complete idiots.

Corporeal punishment works for children, adolescents, and adults.  End of story.  With children it requires parental self discipline to conduct it in a method that becomes constructive rather than destructive. 

I have 4 kids and corporeal punishment worked very well with the boys, but was only semi-effective on the one girl.  It takes a measure of restraint, a lot of patience, and proper timing to make spanking work with a child.  Unfortunately, at times when a parent REALLY wants to use corporeal punishment, those qualities in judgment are often lacking with the parent.

I learned to set boundaries for my children that once crossed, result in a spanking.  That spanking does not come until near the end of the day, and the # adds up through the day.  It does not take long before you no longer need to spank.  Note also that some of the most important rules cannot have solely negative response.  Things like crossing the street, knives, guns, matches, etc.

Considering that the two oldest, which I refined my technique on, are both in med school at the tops of their respective classes is affirmation enough for me that my technique worked and did not make them "dumb."

Originally posted by seabass2003

Maybe if you are spanking their heads.

I'd be more likely to believe that for a lot of people, their brains are in their asses. Then spanking would affect them.

Originally posted by modjoe86

When I see kids acting out of control in Walmart, I just don't get it.  The parents basically beg their child to stop, the kids keeps throwing a fit, so the parent caves in and buys them whatever.

Things changed. I got spanked in public as well. But now, you are not allowed. If you are seen spanking your child, there is no doubt DHS will be notified. I saw the same thing in a Walmart (maybe it is Walmart who makes kids bad?), but the mother actually spanked her kid. This is one of those Walmarts with a bank in it and local police serve guard duty. The cop saw it, and, alll I saw was the woman taken aside, sat down, and eventually more cops come.

She didn't beat her child, nor did she yell, scream, or belittle the child. She simply swatted him on the ass. I don't know what happened to her, but, the point being, this is why kids are out of control. Big government steps in again and tries to control our lives.

Originally posted by seabass2003

Maybe if you are spanking their heads.

Well were else are you supposed to then?

Are you implying that im doing it wrong?

Okay,   no kids (i hope) but as for my 2 nephews and niece I KNOW that the middle one needs his asswhipped regularly,  a damn mini monster tornado.   The oldest not so much,  and the girl,   I don't think doing somthing wrong is even in her.  Which I hear are the ones you have to be the most concerned about.

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Not true.. Still depends on the situation.. You can be intelligent or not based on how you are raised and also you can decide if you want to stay stupid for the rest of your life or be a better man. :)

Or it could be that the children getting spanked are the ones dumb enough to get caught, not that IQ really measures that it is a really limited measure of intelligence but you know what I mean.

You all make the assumption that IQ is a good measure of intelligence.

Originally posted by //\\//\\oo

You all make the assumption that IQ is a good measure of intelligence.

 

   This.

Originally posted by //\\//\\oo

You all make the assumption that IQ is a good measure of intelligence.

 

Well, yeah. That's because I have a (BSc) degree in psychology, and while it's not a good measure by any means, it's by far the best we have and correlates heavily with achievements in fields that, in our eyes, require mostly intelligence. Intelligence itself is a rather vague term; hell, some psychologists even go as far as to say that 'intelligence is what the test tests'.

(Note: Even though I have a degree in biological psychology, I'm highly critical of my field and methodology of other social sciences, and I'm currently persuing a different degree altogether.)