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Kyleran
Elite Member
Joined: 9/13/06
A simple truth-"What people want and what is good for an mmo is not always the same thing"-mrw0lf |
9/24/09 4:50:06 PM#21
Originally posted by Cephus404
I dunno, both you and the OP seem to reek with jealousy over the fact some people play their games more seriously than you do, and devote more time and effort to them. So you mock saying they aren't hardcore enough to handle life. I do know people who are hardcore foot ball fans, or tennis players, or collectors of Disney merchandise. It simply denotes someoene who puts a lot more time and effort into something (perhaps to the point of fanaticism) than the average person.
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9/24/09 5:12:27 PM#22
While there are plenty of hardcore gamers, I agree with the OP that you´re not hardcore for playing a video game.
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9/24/09 5:20:23 PM#23
i've never heard someone claim there hardcore in life either okay 1 but he was in the marines. now if the people you talk to meant hardcore gamer then look at the final fantasy xi players from the early days brfore exp was made easy. or players beating ninja gaiden on hardest mode. want hardcore how about that guy in asia who played for days till he dead thats hardcore gamer and in real life. |
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karat76
Novice Member
Joined: 8/22/06
Greatest threat to society is letting casualties of puberty reproduce. |
9/24/09 5:26:02 PM#24
I agree with some on here. That playing a game is not hardcore. I have no problem with people who base their lives on how tough they are online but lets not pretend because you can kill more pixels than me that you are some hardcore badass. Want to be hardcore join the military or go into law enforcement. Be hardcore for something greater than yourself or your epeen. |
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9/24/09 5:28:01 PM#25
Originally posted by daveospice
Well, I was going to agree with the OP to a degree. There are very, very few truely hardcore video game players. But then he just had to go and reveal his true intentions by saying grinding alone is somehow hardcore. |
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9/24/09 9:45:49 PM#26
Leave the hardcore gamers to themselves. In 4-5 years they'll be hardcore flipping burgers and asking if you'd like to supersize your order at the McDonalds drive thru because thats the extent of their accomplishments in reality from playing WOW 24/7 and being hardcore.
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Tisiphone
Novice Member
Joined: 3/16/04
"Every time you skip security patches, Cthulu kills a kitten." |
9/24/09 9:51:20 PM#27
I'm sorry - that's great, and I'll let you finish, but 1997 had some of the most hardcore l337 of all time! Of ALL TIME! |
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9/24/09 10:07:45 PM#28
Originally posted by Kyleran
I dunno, both you and the OP seem to reek with jealousy over the fact some people play their games more seriously than you do, and devote more time and effort to them. So you mock saying they aren't hardcore enough to handle life. I do know people who are hardcore foot ball fans, or tennis players, or collectors of Disney merchandise. It simply denotes someoene who puts a lot more time and effort into something (perhaps to the point of fanaticism) than the average person.
What your saying if I got the jist of it is , is hardcore fans of a sport and hardcore gamers are the same, but in most cases that not true, the people who spout 'i,m hardcore a gamer" believe they are like the sports players, not the dedicated fan. Which is disturbing as sitting on your fat ass doesnt make you a uber in any shape of form, unless its Uber fat, not Phat just plain fat. People that need to feel special will create all sorts of titles for themselves, people who mostly feel disempowered in real life, will create ways to be larger than life., and least we not forget that hormones and dropping ball sacks also play a part to all this. If you want to be truely hardcore to the genre, go to further education, and make an MMO(insert whatever here) get well known, create an in game char, and prance around getting adored and your e-peen stroked by the elf pixels you yourself put into the game, a self masterbation ego trip of hardcore preportions, because thats what it boils down to, and thats the hardcore part. Apart from that WHATEVER lol, if people want to delude themselves into thinking they are special, by playing a video game, well whatever gets you through the night mate. Currently Subbed EVE, thats it after years off MMO play I am reduced to one sub due to the massive levels of CRAP in the market. |
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9/24/09 10:15:36 PM#29
The Real Hardcore Video Game Players... They make big money kicking butt at video game tournaments. They are few and we pray there are never giant fighting robots for them to control. |
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9/24/09 10:45:47 PM#30
Originally posted by kruler What your saying if I got the jist of it is , is hardcore fans of a sport and hardcore gamers are the same, but in most cases that not true, the people who spout 'i,m hardcore a gamer" believe they are like the sports players, not the dedicated fan. Which is disturbing as sitting on your fat ass doesnt make you a uber in any shape of form, unless its Uber fat, not Phat just plain fat. People that need to feel special will create all sorts of titles for themselves, people who mostly feel disempowered in real life, will create ways to be larger than life., and least we not forget that hormones and dropping ball sacks also play a part to all this. If you want to be truely hardcore to the genre, go to further education, and make an MMO(insert whatever here) get well known, create an in game char, and prance around getting adored and your e-peen stroked by the elf pixels you yourself put into the game, a self masterbation ego trip of hardcore preportions, because thats what it boils down to, and thats the hardcore part. Apart from that WHATEVER lol, if people want to delude themselves into thinking they are special, by playing a video game, well whatever gets you through the night mate.
There is such a thing as hardcore sports fans, ever heard of hooligans? Every group of people that share an interest has a core of purists, the "hard" core are just those that take it to an extreme. For instance, WoW fanboys may go to ridiculous lenghts (like forum discussions) to prove their "dedication" to the game. Hardcore WoW fanboys will never even try another game, they won't even touch Blizzard's upcoming MMO whenever it comes out. I bet there's an even a harder core that continue to believe expansions "ruined" the game and will only play vainilla WoW on private servers or whatever version up to the patch that they feel spoiled their "classic" game. This is what hardcore actually means, not that your heart or your soul have become toughened and you now live in a noir novel a la Hamett. Hardcore at life? What you mean? a guy that has nothing but whisky and cigarrettes for breakfast, has a knife fight with an excon on his way downstairs just to send on her way the former beauty queen now waitress in a dive that he "hooked" up with while investigating a murder case? Wth? There's no such thing as "hardcore at life" actual green berets, if they're lucky, are happy enough to spend time watching cartoons with their kids. There are however such things as hardcore embroidery enthusiasts or hardcore cat lovers... geez, man Just to make things clear... |
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9/24/09 10:58:45 PM#31
Originally posted by Caleveira What your saying if I got the jist of it is , is hardcore fans of a sport and hardcore gamers are the same, but in most cases that not true, the people who spout 'i,m hardcore a gamer" believe they are like the sports players, not the dedicated fan. Which is disturbing as sitting on your fat ass doesnt make you a uber in any shape of form, unless its Uber fat, not Phat just plain fat. People that need to feel special will create all sorts of titles for themselves, people who mostly feel disempowered in real life, will create ways to be larger than life., and least we not forget that hormones and dropping ball sacks also play a part to all this. If you want to be truely hardcore to the genre, go to further education, and make an MMO(insert whatever here) get well known, create an in game char, and prance around getting adored and your e-peen stroked by the elf pixels you yourself put into the game, a self masterbation ego trip of hardcore preportions, because thats what it boils down to, and thats the hardcore part. Apart from that WHATEVER lol, if people want to delude themselves into thinking they are special, by playing a video game, well whatever gets you through the night mate.
There is such a thing as hardcore sports fans, ever heard of hooligans? Every group of people that share an interest has a core of purists, the "hard" core are just those that take it to an extreme. For instance, WoW fanboys may go to ridiculous lenghts (like forum discussions) to prove their "dedication" to the game. Hardcore WoW fanboys will never even try another game, they won't even touch Blizzard's upcoming MMO whenever it comes out. I bet there's an even a harder core that continue to believe expansions "ruined" the game and will only play vainilla WoW on private servers or whatever version up to the patch that they feel spoiled their "classic" game. This is what hardcore actually means, not that your heart or your soul have become toughened and you now live in a noir novel a la Hamett. Hardcore at life? What you mean? a guy that has nothing but whisky and cigarrettes for breakfast, has a knife fight with an excon on his way downstairs just to send on her way the former beauty queen now waitress in a dive that he "hooked" up with while investigating a murder case? Wth? There's no such thing as "hardcore at life" actual green berets, if they're lucky, are happy enough to spend time watching cartoons with their kids. There are however such things as hardcore embroidery enthusiasts or hardcore cat lovers... geez, man
That's nice and all and very true, but realize this. You're trying to tell a young kid on a forum that life isn't all Black and White but there are various shades of grey in between. They have to learn that for themselves, that only comes with experience. Noble effort though.
*edit: just realized my avatar is telling me that I'm a "Hardcore Member" of this forum. About 5 minutes ago it said I was Advanced or something. Funny. |
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9/25/09 1:32:36 AM#32
Originally posted by Kyleran
I can't speak for the OP, but I do not mock people who claim to be "hardcore" gamers, meaning, they play a lot of games. I mock people who claim the type of game they play makes them superior to other gamers, ESPECIALLY in the area of MMORPGs. The idea that you're smarter/cooler/tougher/better if you prefer Everquest to WoW or Darkfall to Hello Kitty Island Adventure is not merely wrong; it's laughably, horribly, pathetically, wrong, and anyone who believes that deserves to be mocked, loudly and continuously. Please listen carefully: There is no way of pretending to be a magical elf in fairyland that will make you cool. None. Not one. If you think there is, you're wrong. If you think that your favorite MMORPG *isn't* about pretending to a magical elf in fairyland, you're wrong. I consider myself a "hardcore" gamer, both online and paper&pencil, in terms of the hours I dedicate to gaming in preference to other hobbies, i.e, given a choice between an hour gaming or an hour, I dunno, watching TV, I'm likely to pick gaming. However, it's rather unlikely I'll state that because I've learned the rules (sort of) to "Advanced Squad Leader"[1] means I'm oh-so-much-cooler and tougher and smarter and sexier than those "kiddies" who only like to play "Settlers of Cataan". THAT'S the kind of hardcore being mocked here, and if you think you can defend that idea, you're welcome to try. Good luck with that. [1]And if you don't why that's an achievement, you are NOT a hardcore gamer. |
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9/25/09 1:55:34 AM#33
I think the op is a little confused by the term “hardcore” and “hardcore gamer” |
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9/25/09 1:57:58 AM#34
Well if hardcore sports fans are hooligans does that mean to be hardcore we have to go round and see the MMO companies that rival the MMO we play? And give them a good kicking? :) |
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9/25/09 2:02:52 AM#35
If I crush your skull, will that be hardcore? Edit: Not that I want to. I just want to judge what is hardcore. If you are thinking that only violence is hardcore, is what I am getting at. Because that would be stupid of you. "Gamers will no longer buy the argument that every MMO requires a subscription fee to offset server and bandwidth costs. It's not true — you know it, and they know it." —Jeff Strain, co-founder of ArenaNet, 2007 |
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9/25/09 10:16:56 AM#36
Originally posted by Kyleran Jealousy? Hardly. We're telling the people who are living live vicariously through on-screen pixels to grow up and get a life. The same goes for "hardcore" football fans. Stop painting your face and having an embolism every time someone throws an inflated ball to someone else, you're acting like an idiot and embarassing yourself and those around you. There's a place where such activities can be part of a balanced life and a place where you've gone way, way, way too far. Most people who think they're "hardcore" belong to the second group. Played: UO, EQ, WoW, DDO, SWG, AO, CoH, EvE, TR, AoC, GW, GA, lots more |
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9/25/09 10:28:34 AM#37
Originally posted by cukimunga
Pffft that is not hardcore....this is hardcore. Watch <<< clicky ![]() |
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cukimunga
Advanced Member
Joined: 4/03/05
Ah I'm drunk and I'm in the street like a vagabond. |
9/25/09 10:42:12 AM#38
Originally posted by Teala
Pffft that is not hardcore....this is hardcore. Watch <<< clicky
Yeah snowboarding is crazy awesome, I used to skateboard for 8 years. But man they get some crazy air which would scare the B'jesus out of me. I guess I'm not hardcore enough. |
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9/25/09 10:51:48 AM#39
Originally posted by cukimunga
Yeah snowboarding is crazy awesome, I used to skateboard for 8 years. But man they get some crazy air which would scare the B'jesus out of me. I guess I'm not hardcore enough. Meh, this is hardcore :p http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsutyvRGqh0 cover yourself in pig blood
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9/25/09 11:00:19 AM#40
There are however such things as hardcore embroidery enthusiasts or hardcore cat lovers... geez, man (quote)...
Just because you can stick the word hardcore infront of another word doesnt mean a thing, I doubt very much that even if Mrs O'Grady while stroking 5 cats with one hand, and with the other hand was embroidering 'The complete knowledge of the Universe" she would claim to be hardcore. As a rule if someone comes up to you and says, " I,M Hardcore" at anything its a damn good bet the next word that enters your head is "Wanker"....Claiming to be hardcore at gaming is just a pathetic attempt to gleen some self respect for a person thats abviously lacking any other social skills,graces or prospects. If a computer game is the bench mark of your achievements, a standard that you can fly high ,while waving your todger around proudly for all to see, then I am so so sorry that your life has ended up like this. But its not all bad because in 40 years time, you have got hardcore cat care and hardcore needlework to look foreward to or so I have been informed in these forums, so YAY maybe you will make some friends there, with the cats maybe. Currently Subbed EVE, thats it after years off MMO play I am reduced to one sub due to the massive levels of CRAP in the market. |
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