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  Stradden

Managing Editor

Joined: 7/08/05
Posts: 6729

 
9/24/09 9:01:53 AM#1

MMORPG.com World of Warcraft Correspondent Eric Grucza writes this look at Cataclysm and makes the case that with the addition of this new expansion, Blizzard is opening up a whole other world of possibilities for players.

Now that Blizzcon has officially been over for a few weeks and we have been left with quite a bit of information on the new expansion pack, what does it mean to current players? At some point we have all looked at World of Warcraft and asked ourselves if anything is ever going to change. Many players every few months will quit the game and come back after a hiatus just to get away from the gear grind. The core of World of Warcraft is coming up on its five year birthday and I can't help but think the developers at Blizzard have abandoned the old world of Azeroth that we grew to love in the original World of Warcraft. The idea of leveling again has completely been removed from everyone's thoughts. Those who do decide to level again will simply blow through the 80 levels as fast as they can so that they can get to the end game content. Yet once they get there, they will be greeted by nothing but gear grinding and raid farming.

Read A Whole New World

Cheers,
Jon Wood
Managing Editor
MMORPG.com

  arctarus

Apprentice Member

Joined: 9/26/06
Posts: 2418

9/24/09 9:13:06 AM#2

After reading the first paragraph, i thought Blizz is gona do something new apart from the gear grind at end-game, got me excited for a few secs. But im wrong...

By the way, can you please separate those words that stick together? That's many of them...

 

 

RIP Orc Choppa

  jiveturkey12

Elite Member

Joined: 12/22/04
Posts: 1164

9/24/09 9:23:33 AM#3
Originally posted by arctarus

After reading the first paragraph, i thought Blizz is gona do something new apart from the gear grind at end-game, got me excited for a few secs. But im wrong...

By the way, can you please separate those words that stick together? That's many of them...

 

 

 

So you dont RP? Try any professions? Participate in PvP? Run a guild? Go to any of the multitude of social events they openly announce on the calendar? 

 

Sorry bud, its not Blizzard who forces people to grind gear end game. Its people who force people. Just like its not Blizzards fault people dont RP, its not Blizzards fault people only see the game as one dimensional. 

 

You dont need to have a player driven economy and a dancing class to make a game social or fun. Seriously everyone needs to quit the WoW hate. ITs been five years people, and people complain about the SWG vets, your average "Hardcore wannabe" will always be worse than any EX SWG player!

-Jive

 

  thormach

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Joined: 5/29/04
Posts: 14

9/24/09 9:34:17 AM#4

Space bar and spell check are your friends.

  arctarus

Apprentice Member

Joined: 9/26/06
Posts: 2418

9/24/09 9:40:48 AM#5
Originally posted by jiveturkey12
Originally posted by arctarus

After reading the first paragraph, i thought Blizz is gona do something new apart from the gear grind at end-game, got me excited for a few secs. But im wrong...

By the way, can you please separate those words that stick together? That's many of them...

 

 

 

So you dont RP? Try any professions? Participate in PvP? Run a guild? Go to any of the multitude of social events they openly announce on the calendar? 

 

Sorry bud, its not Blizzard who forces people to grind gear end game. Its people who force people. Just like its not Blizzards fault people dont RP, its not Blizzards fault people only see the game as one dimensional. 

 

You dont need to have a player driven economy and a dancing class to make a game social or fun. Seriously everyone needs to quit the WoW hate. ITs been five years people, and people complain about the SWG vets, your average "Hardcore wannabe" will always be worse than any EX SWG player!

-Jive

 

 

I never say i hate WoW, in fact if you look at my profile WoW is 1 of my favourite game.

I just say that the first paragraph give me the impression that they are gona do something new for end-game, but upon further reading its not the case.

And apart from RP and run a guild, i do participate the rest of the contents...

 

 

 

 

 

RIP Orc Choppa

  Gravarg

Advanced Member

Joined: 8/24/06
Posts: 1280

"Wardens only port the people we need for a fellowship."

9/24/09 9:51:53 AM#6

I'm happy that Blizz is going to revamp Azeroth.  I can't count how many times in an MMO I said to myself,"How many times is "a quest giver" going to lose this "lost item"."

 

Really the only thing that disappoints me about this expansion is no new class.  It would be nice to see something different, like DK was.  A multipet class, pure healer/support, etc.  any of them would be welcomed by players.

  spinach8puff

Novice Member

Joined: 11/06/06
Posts: 867

Help someone who can not return the favor.

9/24/09 9:57:00 AM#7

Good article, but yeah it needs proof read badly.

 

I am unsure if Blizzard plans to, but it'd be cool if they would let players control their own terrain phasing so people that want to experience the original world could. However I don't think it is possible to truly experience the original content today. Yes, you can get a small taste of what it used to be like, but there is nothing quite like when an MMO first comes out. Everyone leveling together, experiencing content for the first time, taking it slow through new zones and instances, and forging new relationships with strangers just doesn't happen as much after a certain time. It stills happens, but not as intense, fast, or common.

I partially agree with the article when it says that most people barrel through the original content to reach end game content, but I don't think it is just for gear and raiding though. For a number of players I believe it is also to be with other people to forge the relationships and experience a smaller taste of what I mentioned above.

  dalestaines1

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Joined: 9/29/06
Posts: 102

Don''t cry if you don''t like a game. Find another and have fun!
It''s a more healthy tactic :)

9/24/09 10:03:38 AM#8

I couldn't read it all because of all the errors. 

What I did get was yet another article that repeated the same thing.  A very, very long article with no new info.

Whether you hate the changes that happen or not, the old world needs updating for people who care about the entire experience of the game.  To me, the end game is just tolerable, but the journey is everything. 
I look forward to the update.

  Gel214th

Novice Member

Joined: 9/11/07
Posts: 140

9/24/09 10:07:54 AM#9

World of Warcraft was disappointing.

After a loooong climb to level 80, the game devolved into forced grouping and only being able to really play a few times a week with guild created raids. The Equipment Grind through Heroics...and Raids means it is not possible any more to play the game solo, or even Duo which I did while leveling from 1 to 80.

So the game has become something that I would not have played had it started out this way, and therefore do not want to play now.

Nothing I see here from Blizzard indicates a change in that. All they are trying to steer me toward is making an alt and leveling it for four months to 80.

The End game is an item grind. Or a reputaiton Grind. PVP is nice, and roleplaying is nice...but neither really helps you progress like you did from 1 to 80.

Daily Quests are also limited. So there is actually a cap on the amount of quests I can do in a day...again a massive change from when I was leveling.

So the entire gameplay has changed once I hit level 80.

I'm waiting on the next generation MMORPGs that are due out next year. Cataclysm doesn't reignite my passion to play World of Warcraft.

  Mrdirty

Apprentice Member

Joined: 7/28/09
Posts: 13

Bah

9/24/09 10:15:11 AM#10

I know some ppl have already commented on this...but i find the need to also.  ITS CALLED A !@#$%!@ SPACE BAR!

  gakule

Novice Member

Joined: 8/24/07
Posts: 60

9/24/09 10:20:03 AM#11
Originally posted by thormach

Space bar and spell check are your friends.

 

Agree'd. Doesn't MMORPG.com have editors? I couldn't bear to read more than three paragraphs.

  thormach

Novice Member

Joined: 5/29/04
Posts: 14

9/24/09 10:29:02 AM#12

Does not matter what MMO you play they will all end the same. Raid and gear grinding. It is something that can not be avoided for now. You can always play a new game but once you reach max lvl you will be stuck again and there is no guarantee that the new game will be anywhere near as fun as WOW is to lvl.

  battleaxe

Novice Member

Joined: 1/06/04
Posts: 158

9/24/09 10:42:12 AM#13

I wonder if the experience boosters will be rolled back for Cataclysm.  It would be a shame for all of these new alts to blast past most of the new content with experience being so easy to get now.

I agree about the level 80 game - it's completely different than the 1-80 game.  Leveling up with a couple of friends was a blast the first time, and the second time with a guild.  The 80 endgame is just a string of daily quests and the same dungeons over and over.

I don't know any MMO that has solved the endgame problem successfully.

  saker

Hard Core Member

Joined: 2/11/04
Posts: 587

Make a WORLD,
Not a Game.

9/24/09 10:42:44 AM#14

Blizzard is talked about as being so creative, so innovative (not saying I agree), where's the creativity, or innovation? No new class is a very major minus (and such a obvious thing to have done), can't imagine what they were thinking no including one. I don't see this expansion as doing them any good. I have no interest in re-opening my account for this.

  saker

Hard Core Member

Joined: 2/11/04
Posts: 587

Make a WORLD,
Not a Game.

9/24/09 10:43:54 AM#15


Originally posted by battleaxe
I wonder if the experience boosters will be rolled back for Cataclysm.  It would be a shame for all of these new alts to blast past most of the new content with experience being so easy to get now.
I agree about the level 80 game - it's completely different than the 1-80 game.  Leveling up with a couple of friends was a blast the first time, and the second time with a guild.  The 80 endgame is just a string of daily quests and the same dungeons over and over.
I don't know any MMO that has solved the endgame problem successfully.

level-based games are deeply afflicted with this whole "end-game" bs, no getting around it. High time to dump the whole level/class design.

  streea

Novice Member

Joined: 8/04/06
Posts: 664

9/24/09 10:54:01 AM#16

It's been several hours and still no edit... even if it is an interesting article, it doesn't matter as I couldn't stand to read more than a line or two.

  jiveturkey12

Elite Member

Joined: 12/22/04
Posts: 1164

9/24/09 11:01:01 AM#17
Originally posted by arctarus
Originally posted by jiveturkey12
Originally posted by arctarus

After reading the first paragraph, i thought Blizz is gona do something new apart from the gear grind at end-game, got me excited for a few secs. But im wrong...

By the way, can you please separate those words that stick together? That's many of them...

 

 

 

So you dont RP? Try any professions? Participate in PvP? Run a guild? Go to any of the multitude of social events they openly announce on the calendar? 

 

Sorry bud, its not Blizzard who forces people to grind gear end game. Its people who force people. Just like its not Blizzards fault people dont RP, its not Blizzards fault people only see the game as one dimensional. 

 

You dont need to have a player driven economy and a dancing class to make a game social or fun. Seriously everyone needs to quit the WoW hate. ITs been five years people, and people complain about the SWG vets, your average "Hardcore wannabe" will always be worse than any EX SWG player!

-Jive

 

 

I never say i hate WoW, in fact if you look at my profile WoW is 1 of my favourite game.

I just say that the first paragraph give me the impression that they are gona do something new for end-game, but upon further reading its not the case.

And apart from RP and run a guild, i do participate the rest of the contents...

 

 

 

 

 

 

O ok, I completely misinterpreted that, but im sure you can see where your sarcasm could appear misplaced. But yea I agree with you, horrible article haha.

 

-Jive

  Stradden

Managing Editor

Joined: 7/08/05
Posts: 6729

 
9/24/09 11:01:21 AM#18
Originally posted by gakule
Originally posted by thormach

Space bar and spell check are your friends.

 

Agree'd. Doesn't MMORPG.com have editors? I couldn't bear to read more than three paragraphs.

technical error folks, it's being looked into.

Cheers,
Jon Wood
Managing Editor
MMORPG.com

  Orphes

Hard Core Member

Joined: 3/18/07
Posts: 2877

You make, you buy, you die!

9/24/09 11:03:08 AM#19

Anyone gone into the whole NGE thing?
And anyone gone into this is nothing like NGE?

I'm just curious.

I'm so broke. I can't even pay attention.
"You have the right not to be killed"

  Lucian.jp

Novice Member

Joined: 10/07/05
Posts: 8

9/24/09 11:08:39 AM#20

New expansion maybe, but not a new game. WoW time is over. Can't wait to see refreshing new stuff like SOR.

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