I liked the next discussion about this topic better.

Originally posted by illyana

i didnt state my opinion if GW1 is an MMO or not
im lamenting the fact that another thread became an argument abt this moot topic abt GW1
most of the time it's started by YOU!

so what if GW1 is a CORPG? its still one of the best online games out there

Resistance 2 is still a better Online Game

Yes they have said that it is an coorpg. if you watched interwievs or seen their bloggs. you would know they have said that it is an coorpg. so get your facts right next time.

Originally posted by SweetZoid

Yes they have said that it is an coorpg. if you watched interwievs or seen their bloggs. you would know they have said that it is an coorpg. so get your facts right next time.

which is why I say

"calling Guild Wars a MMORPG is like calling it a Racing Game. You can call it what ever you like, but once you do, people will compare it to other games in that genre. so in this example, GW would suck as a game, if it was labled a Racing Game because it isn't. But does that make it a bad game? No! "

GW1 is not a MMORPG, and while people try to call it a MMO, it isnt. And when you do, people will compare it to other MMORPGs out there. This games Sucks big time for a MMORPG, because it isnt a MMORPG. Its a CORPG. does that mean its a bad game in general? NO!, but as a MMORPG? YES

GUILD WARS2 Will be in a brand new Genre of Games. So things will Change. Which is why Anet is holding back on the Mechanics Info. Because they dont want Fans to jump to conclusion, that the brand new System will be bad, just because it different from the system GW1 had.

 *sigh* This is akin to watching a Turing test go horribly wrong.

MMO:  a video game which is capable of supporting hundreds or thousands of players simultaneously. By necessity, they are played on the Internet, and feature at least one persistent world.

Persistent World: The persistence comes from maintaining and developing the state of the world in the game around the clock. Quite unlike other types of games, the plot and events in a persistent world game continue to develop even while some of the players are not playing their characters.

What sets GW apart from Diablo II in this regard, is that global prices for scrolls, materials, and dyes are updated in real time based on the volumes being bought and sold by players at any given interval. There's also favor of the gods. Which requires players to be earning titles at regular intervals to be maintained. Merchant prices in Diablo II and whatever else you listed are hard coded and will never bow to supply and demand. Ergo, even though thousands of players may be playing the game at once, they don't qualify as persistent.

Persistance has nothing to do with the lack of instancing. Tons of offline games qualify as persistent. Just because the thousands of players are spread out through thousands of instances, does not mean they're not contributing to the persistant state of the game world.

You seem to be confusing the definition of MMORPG with the currently dominant form of the genre; Aion/WoW/RoM that you seem to be so fond of. Just because it's a fringe game that you don't like doesn't mean that it's not a member of the club.

The CORPG/MMORPG debate is an irrelevant red herring. There's nothing about a Cooperative Online Role Playing Game that precludes it from being a Massively Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game. MMORPG's do allow cooperation, do they not?

Delete this thread. Sorry OP that your topic got derailed in another inane argument about what is an mmo.

Originally posted by Alchem1st

Originally posted by drbaltazar

Originally posted by Alchem1st

Originally posted by tro44_1

Thats your opinion, and others have theirs. Yes GW1 may not have been a MMORPG, but it still was labled such, by many blinded rabit fanboys.

But this time around, GW2 will be a MMO, and it will be compared to the MMORPGs already out there. The common term of killing a MMO, doesnt mean that it gets shut down, it only means, the base or avg number of players is constantly dropping.

F2P MMORPGs , regardless of their success, will still have a player base that grows. But usully when this is applied to a F2P game, it is refering to if the avg online player population is depleting or not.

 

 

are you autistic or something? explain why GW is not an MMORPG.

because arenanet says so(game maker)

corpg if i recall or close to that

 

ye, corpg? show me 1 place where those words are written or said. wtf does corpg even mean? is it diminishing the size impression of the word massive? no one not even anet has ever called GW anything other than an MMORPG.

I remember when it was in Beta.. and at launch, it was called  Competetive Online Role Playing Game...
 

Originally posted by tro44_1

If GW is a MMO then so is Halo and Resistance, and Diablo and WC3 so on so on :^)

GW is very different from those. GW is in the same line as DDO. You play together in the city hubs but not outside, then it is all instanced. There is also a few battlegrounds in Factions ala Wow.

CORPG is what arenanet calls it themselves (and they do so in their FAQ, or at least it used to say so there when I started to play it). I would say that GW is a MMO, or at least a semi MMO. And since it is on this forum, while Diablo and Warcraft 3 isn't means that the staff of this site thinks so too.

But all this have nothing to do with Guildwars 2 which are set in a open persistant world. There will still be some instanced places but most will be open so it will be a classic MMO in many ways, but the persistant world is something rather new (that WAR was supposed to have but canceled out when they cut the content).

So the "is GW a MMO" thread is off topic here and should be in the Guildwars forum instead of here, stay on topic.

Originally posted by Alchem1st

Originally posted by drbaltazar

Originally posted by Alchem1st

Originally posted by tro44_1

Thats your opinion, and others have theirs. Yes GW1 may not have been a MMORPG, but it still was labled such, by many blinded rabit fanboys.

But this time around, GW2 will be a MMO, and it will be compared to the MMORPGs already out there. The common term of killing a MMO, doesnt mean that it gets shut down, it only means, the base or avg number of players is constantly dropping.

F2P MMORPGs , regardless of their success, will still have a player base that grows. But usully when this is applied to a F2P game, it is refering to if the avg online player population is depleting or not.

 

 

are you autistic or something? explain why GW is not an MMORPG.

because arenanet says so(game maker)

corpg if i recall or close to that

 

ye, corpg? show me 1 place where those words are written or said. wtf does corpg even mean? is it diminishing the size impression of the word massive? no one not even anet has ever called GW anything other than an MMORPG.

They did actually make up their own label CORPG (check http://www.guildwars.com/products/guildwars/features/default.php second question). But who cares.

Im more annoyed that you use autistic as insult. That really shows ignorance from your part.

Originally posted by dplagius

Everything I have read so far has points to Guild Wars 2 not trying to compete to overpower WOW or even steal WOW players.
Guild Wars 2 is not meant for the average typical gamer who likes to grind 5 or 10 levels to reach the cap then quit playing because there is nothing else to do except raids. GW2 is being made for the user who likes to be challenged with Skill use and GvG.

Coming from experience I have witnessed several people who played WOW and switched over to GW. Most of them end up going back to WOW after they reach 20 because "there isn't anything else to do in the game". Well on the contrary there were tons of missions still not completed. Campaigns were not even unlocked nor was the expansion to the game.

Conclusion, GW is not trying or being made to overtake WOW, it's just trying to be the best game OF ITS KIND ever to be created.

Well, trying to make a new Wow always fail, besides did the team that did GW and work on GW2 started with working for several years on Wow. Strain was Wows first lead developer before Kaplan. People who love Wow will stay with Wow.

But I actually know a lot of people that play both games, Wow for PvE and GW for PvP. I asked a friend of mine about it and he said that he didn't like Wows PvP, it was to imbalanced and slow. He liked the raiding and groups however and since GW have no monthly fees he said it was the perfect alt game.

But we don't know how GW2s system will be, there was talk early that it shouldn't have a level cap at all whatever that means but that was when the announced the game and started to work on it. We can't assume it will be like the first game in that aspect.

There is a lot of rumours but few facts. One thing is that the game will be zoneless, not like Wow but using some new system Strain made (he did the zooneless thing in Wow too).

I myself played thru GW ('cept the last 2 missions of Factions) because of I liked the story and I think GW together with Diablo (1) is the best programmed computer game I ever played. Never seen a single bug or issue.

Originally posted by dplagius

Everything I have read so far has points to Guild Wars 2 not trying to compete to overpower WOW or even steal WOW players.
Guild Wars 2 is not meant for the average typical gamer who likes to grind 5 or 10 levels to reach the cap then quit playing because there is nothing else to do except raids. GW2 is being made for the user who likes to be challenged with Skill use and GvG.

Coming from experience I have witnessed several people who played WOW and switched over to GW. Most of them end up going back to WOW after they reach 20 because "there isn't anything else to do in the game". Well on the contrary there were tons of missions still not completed. Campaigns were not even unlocked nor was the expansion to the game.

Conclusion, GW is not trying or being made to overtake WOW, it's just trying to be the best game OF ITS KIND ever to be created.

You know they say politics is all about talking a lot and not saying anything.

Even thought this post has nothing to do with politics, you still did manage come up with nothing to say.

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