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  User Deleted
 
9/22/09 9:14:23 AM#1

So basically, they have pushed patch 3.2.2 out as we speak, and it is slowly downloading after a week full of trojans on the official website. An obvious attempt to cripple games that have recently released, at a time when they have yet to even fix the content they have released (heroic toc bugs, brewfest.)  I'll be personally paying atttention to see how this pans out, specifically how bugged they make Ony and the class changes they have pushed live without adequate testing.

In other words, patch 3.2.2 is now live, 2 months before the original projected date..2 months of live testing of an unfinished patch. Enjoy!

Oh..and just so ya all know, I play the game every day, though sometimes it seems like more of habit than something I do for fun ^^

  Smikis

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9/22/09 9:21:50 AM#2

3.2.2 is minor patch, with few bugfixes and few changes, apart  onyxia ,there is nothing in it more or less, i dont see how it can cripple anything

 

as for too early ? 3.2.2 was never supposed to be released on 11/xx  , not enough testing? minor patch on ptr for over month.. how much testing do you actually need?

 

there are no brewfest or toc bugs you speak off..  even if there are.. releasing bugfixing patch is CLEARLY A BAD THING ?

  Thenarius

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9/22/09 9:26:16 AM#3

Rofl...2 months? That would destroy this season of arena as well.
They changed a lot of things like destroying bleastcleave, a big nerf to FOK-specced PvP rogues and a pretty big nerf to Prot/Holy paladins as well.
However, the star of this nerf is ARP, which will affect many specs/combos in both PvP and PvE, but it will probably fix the extremely overpowered ARP stacking warriors we have today.
That, and some flavor changes to secondary specs such as Moonkins.
All these things are well planified nerfs(and knew-that-was-coming nerfs as well).
 

  User Deleted
 
9/22/09 9:29:34 AM#4

World of Warcraft PTR Patch 3.2.2

The latest test realm patch notes can always be found at http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/patchnotes/test-realm-patchnotes.html

The latest patch notes can always be found at http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/patchnotes/

General

The Brood Mother Returns
After years of lurking in her lair battling the many brave adventurers who travelled from afar to challenge her, Onyxia returns stronger than before to commemorate World of Warcraft's five-year anniversary.
Onyxia has been scaled to offer new challenges to level 80 players and is now available for testing in 10- and 25-player modes.
Adjusted for modern raiding, but with the fundamental experience of fighting the Brood Mother still in effect, including the horrors of her Deep Breaths!
Onyxia will now drop level 80 item versions of some classic loot items from the level 60 encounter.
Brood of Onyxia, a very rare 310%-speed mount modeled after Onyxia herself will be available for the luckiest of challengers.
Armor Penetration Rating: The amount of armor penetration gained per point of this rating has been reduced by 12%.
Copied Test Realm characters will no longer be copied with their achievement history in order to better facilitate the character copy process.

PvP

Battlegrounds
Players level 11 and higher will now always see a daily Battleground quest, as the quest giver will only offer daily quests for a Battleground in which a player is eligible to participate according to level bracket (i.e. players levels 11-20 will always be offered a Warsong Gulch daily quest, while players levels 11-50 will be offered either an Arathi Basin or a Warsong Gulch daily quest, etc.).

Death Knights

Frost Presence: The damage reduction granted by this ability has been increased from 5% to 8%.
Pets
Gnaw: This death knight ghoul ability now has a 1-minute cooldown.
Talents
Blood
Heart Strike: Secondary targets of Heart Strike now take half as much damage.
Subversion: Now also increases the critical strike chance of Scourge Strike by 3/6/9%.
Vampiric Blood: Cooldown reduced to 1 minute and duration reduced to 10 seconds.
Frost
Threat of Thassarian now also causes Rune Strike to use both weapons when dual-wielding.
Unbreakable Armor: Cooldown reduced to 1 minute and changed back to granting 25% additional armor while active instead of flat damage reduction based on armor. The amount of strength granted has been reduced to 10%.
Unholy
Bone Shield: This ability now has 3 charges instead of 4. Cooldown reduced to 1 minute.
Dirge: This talent no longer grants additional runic power from using Obliterate.

Druids

Talents
Balance
Moonkin Form: This form now also reduces the damage the druid takes while stunned by 15%.
Typhoon: The daze duration has been increased from 3 seconds to 6 seconds.
Feral Combat
Infected Wounds: The debuff generated by this talent no longer stacks and instead causes the full effect with a single application.
Predatory Strikes: This talent now also causes the druid's finishing moves to provide a 7/13/20% chance per combo point to make the next Nature spell with a cast time below 10 seconds instant cast.

Hunters

Talents
Beast Mastery
The Beast Within: The duration of this talent has been reduced to 10 seconds. In addition, hunters with this talent will do 10% additional damage at all times.
Bestial Wrath: The duration of this talent has been reduced to 10 seconds.

Mages

Arcane Blast: The buff from using this ability now stacks up to 4 times instead of 3, and each application increases mana cost by 175% instead of 200%. In addition, the duration of the buff has been reduced to 6 seconds.
Arcane Missiles: Casting this spell while both Missile Barrage and Clearcasting are active will cause only Missile Barrage to be consumed.
Talents
Arcane
Missile Barrage: The effect from triggering this talent now removes the mana cost of Arcane Missiles. In addition, the chance for Arcane Blast to trigger this talent is now 8/16/24/32/40%. All other listed spells continue to have a 4/8/12/16/20% chance to trigger it. This talent no longer has a chance to be triggered when spells miss.
Fire
Combustion: This talent now also increases the critical strike damage bonus of Fire spells by 50% while it is active. In addition, Living Bomb periodic ticks will no longer interact with the count or the charges on the talent.

Paladins

Righteous Fury: The bonus threat from Holy spells caused by this talent has been reduced from 90% to 80%.
Seal of Corruption and Seal of Vengeance: These seals will now only use the debuff stacks generated by the attacking paladin to determine the damage done by the seal and by the judgement.
Talents
Protection
Ardent Defender: This talent now reduces damage taken below 35% health by 7/13/20% instead of 10/20/30%.
Blessing of Sanctuary: This blessing now grants 10% strength in addition to its current effects. Also, the strength and stamina bonuses from this blessing will no longer be lost when Blessing of Kings is removed.
Judgements of the Just: The reduction in cooldown to Hammer of Justice provided by this talent has been reduced to 5/10 seconds instead of 10/20 seconds.
Touched by the Light: This talent now provides 20/40/60% of the paladin's strength as spell power instead of 10/20/30% of the paladin's stamina.
Retribution
Seal of Command: This ability now chains to strike up to 2 additional targets when it is triggered by an attack that can only strike a single target.

Priests

Talents
Shadow
Improved Spirit Tap: Mind Flay periodic critical strikes now have a 50% chance to trigger this talent.
Twisted Faith now grants spell power equal to 4/8/12/16/20% of spirit, up from 2/4/6/8/10%.

Rogues

Envenom's scaling has been increased from 7% to 9% of attack power per combo point.
Fan of Knives: The damage done by this ability has been reduced by 30%.
Talents
Assassination
Master Poisoner: No longer increases the Deadly Poison application rate following a successful Envenom and instead now provides a 33/66/100% chance of preventing Envenom from consuming Deadly Poison.
Combat

Throwing Specialization: This talent no longer causes Fan of Knives to interrupt spellcasting.
Subtlety
Honor Among Thieves: A 1-second cooldown is now enforced on how often a rogue can gain combo points from his party via this talent.

Shamans

Cleansing Totem: No longer pulses instantly when dropped.
Flame Shock: The duration of all ranks has been increased by 6 seconds.
Lava Burst: This ability no longer ever consumes a Flame Shock debuff off of the target.
Talents
Elemental Combat
Shamanism: Your Lightning Bolt and Chain Lightning spells gain an additional 3/6/9/12/15% and your Lava Burst gains an additional 4/8/12/16/20% of your bonus damage effects.
Enhancement
Earthen Power: No longer causes Earthbind to pulse a persistent snare immunity aura. It does still remove snares from allies as an instant pulse, but there is no lingering immunity. Earthen Power now also brings Earth Shock's melee attack speed reduction up to -15%/-20% (with 1 or 2 points in it, respectively).

Warriors

Talents
Arms
Sword Specialization: Now has a 2/4/6/8/10% chance to proc an extra attack, up from 1/2/3/4/5%.
Protection
Critical Block: This talent now grants a 20/40/60% chance to block double the normal amount instead of 10/20/30%.

Dungeons & Raids

Shadowfang Keep
Wailing Guardsman: Screams of the Past will no longer have multiple applications on a target. Recast time has been increased.
Ulduar
Increased the cooldown on Immortal Guardians' Drain Life ability in the Yogg-Saron encounter.

Achievements

The Achievement "Iron, Dwarf Medium Rare (25 player)" now requires 25 kills, down from 50.
The Frostwolf Howler and Stormpike Battle Charger Achievements will now be awarded when a player learns the respective mount spells.

Professions

The blacksmiths of Orgrimmar grew tired of running to the rear of the city to craft items and have installed a new anvil & forge at the General Store in the Valley of Strength.
Engineering
The Mind Amplification Dish no longer changes the appearance of your helmet.
Inscription
Added a recipe for Runescroll of Fortitude. This item grants a stamina buff equal to the highest rank of Power Word: Fortitude (untalented) to all players in the raid. The effect of this runescroll is exclusive with other stamina scrolls and Power Word: Fortitude.
Leatherworking
Added a recipe for Drums of Forgotten Kings. These drums increase all stats by 8% for all players in a raid. The effect of these drums is exclusive with Blessing of Kings.
Added a recipe for Drums of the Wild. These drums grant a buff equal to the highest rank of Mark of the Wild (untalented) to all players in a raid. The effect of these drums is exclusive with Mark of the Wild.

Items

The Black Heart: This item's animation has been changed and no longer resembles Hand of Protection.
Death Knight Tier-9 Tanking 4-Piece Set Bonus: Now decreases the cooldown on Vampiric Blood, Unbreakable Armor, and Bone Shield by 10 seconds instead of 20.
Druid Tier-8 Healer 4-Piece Set Bonus: The amount of healing this set bonus grants on the initial cast of Rejuvenation has been reduced by 50%. In addition, this set bonus no longer has strange interactions with Harold's Rejuvenating Broach.
Glyphs
Glyph of Bone Shield: This glyph now grants 1 additional charge instead of 2.
Glyph of Flame Shock: Redesigned. This glyph now makes Flame Shock periodic damage able to be critical strikes.
Glyph of Mind Flay: This glyph no longer reduces the magnitude of the movement reduction on the Mind Flay victim.
Glyph of Scourge Strike: Redesigned. This glyph now causes Scourge Strike to extend the duration of Frost Fever and Blood Plague by 3 seconds each time Scourge Strike is used on a target, up to a maximum of 9 seconds.
Glyph of Typhoon: This glyph now increases the range on Typhoon by 10 yards in addition to its current effects.
Glyph of Unbreakable Armor: Now increases the armor gained from Unbreakable Armor by 20%.
Glyph of Vampiric Blood: The glyph now increases the duration of Vampiric Blood by 5 seconds instead of 10.
Libram of Obstruction: The buff to block value from this relic is now exclusive with the buff to block value from Libram of the Sacred Shield; it is impossible to have both buffs at once.
Libram of the Sacred Shield: The block value buff from this relic has been increased to match its item level.
Relics: All buffs provided by relics (idols, librams, totems and sigils) now share an exclusive category such that gaining a buff from one of these items will remove all other buffs gained from items in this category.
Totem of Quaking Earth: Attack power value increased to 400.

User Interface

Battleground Queuing
Players may now only queue for no more than two Battlegrounds at a time.
The dialog box for entering a Battleground match has been changed to reflect the following options: "Enter Battle," "Leave Queue," and "Minimize."
The time a player has to enter a battle when selected has been reduced to 40 seconds when not already in a Battleground and 20 seconds when in a Battleground.
Players already in a Battleground can now choose "Enter Battle" for a new Battleground under any circumstance (i.e. while dead, in combat, falling, etc.).
A new Battleground will not launch until the maximum number of players on each side are in the queue (i.e. 40 players per side for Alterac Valley).
The size of the Focus Frame can now be adjusted via the Interface Options menu.
Mail System Auto-Complete Feature
The inline auto-complete feature for the mail system has been added back into the game. The mail system will now have both the pre- and post-3.2.0 auto-complete features available.
Added a label to notify players that the Tab key will allow players to navigate through the character names listed via the auto-complete feature.
For additional notes on Lua and XML changes please visit the UI & Macros forum.

Bug Fixes

Death Knight
Rune of Razorice: The frost vulnerability granted by this enchantment will now increase the damage done by Frost Fever as intended.
Druid
Balance of Power: Misleading tooltip reworded. The tooltip previously reported an incorrect value for the increased chance to hit with spells. The actual benefit of the talent is unchanged.
Hunter
Master's Call: This ability now correctly removes the snaring component of Infected Wounds, Frostfire Bolt, and Slow.
Trap Mastery's (Survival) tooltip now states the correct amount of snakes summoned.
Mage
Arcane Missiles: Ranks 12 and 13 will now properly cause players to enter combat.
Paladin
Hand of Freedom: This ability now correctly removes the snaring component of Infected Wounds and Frostfire Bolt.
Priest
Divine Aegis: Ranks 1 and 2 will now work with Holy Nova.
Glyph of Power Word: Shield now correctly uses the Priest's spell critical chance instead of the target's.
Rogue
Vanish: This ability now correctly removes the snaring component of Frostfire Bolt.
Honor Among Thieves: This talent will now work properly again if two rogues with different ranks of the talent are in the same party.
Shaman
Grounding Totem will now properly protect against the Death Grip spell.
Lava Burst can no longer deal critical damage to targets who are immune to critical strikes (due to, e.g. Roar of Sacrifice, Blessed Resilience).
Lightning Shield: This spell will no longer set off some trinkets when it is cast.
Stoneclaw Totem's pulses will no longer break stealth on nearby hostile units.
Thunderstorm and Shamanistic Rage can no longer be used while Frozen, Cycloned, Sapped, or Incapacitated.
Warlock
Demonic Circle: This ability now correctly removes the snaring component of Frostfire Bolt.
Fel Armor: This spell was unable to set off trinkets and other effects. That has been corrected.
When using Shadowbolt or Incinerate while having Backlash and Backdraft active, only Backlash will now be properly consumed.
Coliseum Trinkets: Some spells that should have triggered these trinkets will now trigger them (such as Holy Nova and Fel Armor).
Death Knight Tier-9 DPS 4-Piece Set Bonus: Now grants the correct chance for disease damage ticks to be critical strikes.
Hunter Tier-9 2-Piece Set Bonus: Critical damage from Serpent Sting will now work properly with the Mortal Shots and Expose Weakness talents.
Lightweave Embroidery: This tailoring item enhancement will no longer trigger from the periodic healing granted by the warlock spell Fel Armor.
Mote of Flame: Corrected a typo in the tooltip.
Paladin Tier-9 DPS 2-Piece Set Bonus: Now grants the correct chance for Righteous Vengeance ticks to be critical strikes.
Shard of Flame: Corrected a typo in the tooltip.
Val'anyr, Hammer of The Ancient Kings: Healing from Prayer of Mending now triggers the shield from this item. In addition, a bug was corrected which would cause the shield points to be overwritten rather than stack up as intended.

 

 

This is NOT a minor patch. In fact, it doesn't even fix the brewfest quest turn in bug with drohn's distillery, nor the one that causes the 5 man toc faction champs to refuse to enter melee combat and/or despawn permanently, nor does it fix the bug that plagues many realms who cannot hit the dark iron dwarves in brewfest with their mugs. Do your research ebfore replying, don't make me do it for you, my friend.

 

now to the 2nd person to reply, you've got a better idea of the way this is shaping out, though missed many changes forced out early without proper testing on their impact.

  Thenarius

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Joined: 8/29/08
Posts: 1114

9/22/09 9:31:29 AM#5

It's not minor, but my point still stands.

  Jimmydean

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Joined: 9/21/04
Posts: 846

9/22/09 9:33:47 AM#6

gotta tell ya, it's gonna take a whole lot more than a buggy , re-hashed content patch to cripple the competition atm.

  Scalebane

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Joined: 10/28/06
Posts: 2225

9/22/09 9:34:25 AM#7

yes we know there are bugs with brewfest but this patch was in testing for other things way before, i doubt they were even looking at brewfest.

so they will either have to fix things while the servers are down now or just say screw it. but unless you can prove otherwise this patch was released when blizzard decided to release it, i find it funny these so called other mmo's that are coming out are releasing on a blizzard maintenance day.

As for how long its been on the PTR's its been over a month now, maybe longer, i'll have to check...either way they never said this patch would come out in November, they just said they are revamping Ony for blizzs 5 year anniversery.

"The great thing about human language is that it prevents us from sticking to the matter at hand."
- Lewis Thomas

  Thenarius

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Joined: 8/29/08
Posts: 1114

9/22/09 9:34:39 AM#8
Originally posted by Jimmydean

gotta tell ya, it's gonna take a whole lot more than a buggy , re-hashed content patch to cripple the competition atm.

Like Blizzard cares about competition.
This is an arena patch, Onyxia is just a flavour bonus.

  Beermangler

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Joined: 5/28/09
Posts: 362

9/22/09 9:40:34 AM#9

 Sorry to butt in but things don't quite add up:

Current Patch Notes:
World of Warcraft Client Patch 3.2.0 (08-04-2009)

 

Public Test Realm Patch Notes
World of Warcraft PTR Patch 3.2.2
 

I`m currently at work so I can't launch the client to check this, but the website still states that live version is 3.2.0.

Better to be crazy, provided you know what sane is...

  User Deleted
 
9/22/09 9:42:32 AM#10

Seems, if anything, to be more of a pve patch than pvp, with a couple pvp changes that were tested extensively..and many that were not. Highlighted important information, nerfs/buffs etc.

And to the people claiming that this wasn't pushed out early to hurt Aion, one need only look at how they forced out this entire EXPANSION to block other games from taking their playerbase...god I remember when wrath launched. Worst lag/bugfest ever.

 

 Btw, Its currently downloading the patch as we speak, Beer <.<

 

some forum topics links.

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=19820551091&sid=1

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=19820880776&sid=1

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=19820551151&sid=1

  Thenarius

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9/22/09 9:43:42 AM#11
Originally posted by Cavall

Seems, if anything, to be more of a pve patch than pvp, with a couple pvp changes that were tested extensively..and many that were not. Highlighted important information, nerfs/buffs etc.

And to the people claiming that this wasn't pushed out early to hurt Aion, one need only look at how they forced out this entire EXPANSION to block other games from taking their playerbase...god I remember when wrath launched. Worst lag/bugfest ever.

A couple? Do you have any idea how much impact this will have in arena? :|

  User Deleted
 
9/22/09 9:47:41 AM#12

Yep, prot no longer heals in arena. Arena is now fixed. Enjoy your (somewhat more) fair fights.

  Thenarius

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9/22/09 9:50:27 AM#13
Originally posted by Cavall

Yep, prot no longer heals in arena. Arena is now fixed. Enjoy your (somewhat more) fair fights.

That and:
-Warriors without topgear will find ARP useless.
-Nerfs on TBW with shaman earthen power nerf makes beastcleave useless now.
-Pretty hard nerf on cleaves based on ench shamans(<--big one).
-FoK is no longer viable in PvP.
It looks like it's enough for me, WOTLK's balance is on the edge anyway.

  User Deleted
 
9/22/09 9:54:46 AM#14

To be honest, beastcleave is literally a team composition / spec for facerolling. Instagibbing an entire opposing team in a matter of seconds was likely never intended. Also, warriors can stack ARP to roughly 90% passive with no sunders at top end gear/gems, and that was definitely NEVER intended to occur. Warriors are physical damage dealers, and physical damage - armor = too damned high. Theyre not casters ya know =p

  greymann

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9/22/09 10:12:33 AM#15

How could the OP's opinion possibly be correct when blizzard doesn't even have the patch info as their first entry on their site?  Sure doesn't look like they're trying hard to draw attention.  If they were should we be suprised?  Angered? 

  User Deleted
 
9/22/09 10:17:24 AM#16

Generally Blizzard doesn't post new patch info until the servers have had extended maintenance declared or come online. Anyone who actually reads their forums or plays the game itself can easily see the patch has arrived. Blizzard downloader updates much faster than their website when it comes to breaking news.

In short, the info is not up there on their site yet because the patch was not planned to release this early. However, the downloader is currently downloading and installing the patch, while displaying the patch notes.

  greymann

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9/22/09 10:21:04 AM#17
Originally posted by Cavall

Generally Blizzard doesn't post new patch info until the servers have had extended maintenance declared or come online. Anyone who actually reads their forums or plays the game itself can easily see the patch has arrived. Blizzard downloader updates much faster than their website when it comes to breaking news.

In short, the info is not up there on their site yet because the patch was not planned to release this early. However, the downloader is currently downloading and installing the patch, while displaying the patch notes.


 

But if it was a marketing ploy as you suggest, then that should be their first priority.  How is only caring about players who are already subscribed and logging into the patcher crippling the competition?

  Mistou

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9/22/09 10:27:38 AM#18

It was a marketing ploy but you are missing the point they can get new guys whenever they want but giving old players and current subscribers from even taking a look by offrering new little toys early is much better than trying to get new guys to come in

 

  Antipathy

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9/22/09 10:28:01 AM#19

Of course Blizzard responds to the competition.

I can't see much evidence that this patch has much to do with the Aion or CO releases. However, it looks to me as if:

- When the main competition looked like it would be guild wars, arena was added

- When the main competition looked like Warhammer then Wintergrasp and SoTA were added.

But so what - any decent business responds to the competition. And if the competition can't cope with that, then it's their problem, not Blizzard's.

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9/22/09 10:29:05 AM#20

For one, the same people who are checking the forums are the ones checking the official website. Second, the American version of the WOW website is notorious for having slow updates, poor CS, and many other things such as viruses and trojans.

Finally, word of mouth among gamers travels pretty quickly; you'll remember that most of the info that has ever been released by Blizzard was leaked up to a year in advance, and well known within a day.

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