DDO has always been maligned because it is different.  Turbine really did the right thing making it f2p.  I agree it probably has the best item store in the business.  Not one $20-$50 mount to be seen.

Glad Turbine opened this game up, it is fun to play.  I am laughing at all the Aion advocates.  When they get to endgame Aion falls apart, 2 faction pvp games just die on the vine.

I've been having a blast with DDO too, haven't spent a dime yet and I've purchased Warforge and Sorrowdusk Isle already. I played DDO for a month or two a long time ago but quit because there wasn't anyone around to run the quests with when I was online. Now there's a ton of people and it's not an issue, so I plan to stick with it a good while.

I just started playing this game actually.  Have anyone actual level up to level20 and not spend a dime?

Downloaded tonight, hopefully you guys are right. I usually stay far away from games with an item mall but hell.

Originally posted by Josexph

Downloaded tonight, hopefully you guys are right. I usually stay far away from games with an item mall but hell.

Well, lemme see if this'll help you. I belong to a RPG-focused forum community that is full of the most cynical, angry cunts of gaming ever assembled in one place. Hell, I consider myself to be pretty cynical with regard to gaming in general, and RPGs specifically. Anyway, MMOs are a target of some of the more extreme hatred, because of the fact that they're RPGs in name only. I would agree with this, but that's bound to go into semantics that are neither here nor there in the context of this thread and post.

Suffice it to say, I was rather shocked and amazed at a thread in their MMO subforum where some of the more outspoken of the aforementioned cynical angry cunts were praising the game. So much so that I had to check it out myself. If these guys said it was good, it must be something special. So I did.

It's not perfect by any means, but it's fun as all hell. It feels to me similar to how NWN could have felt free of the constraints of the Aurora engine. Granted, I've only played up to the first warehouse mission on the newbie island (protecting the crystal from the cultists), but I was very impressed with the atmosphere. That tomb quest before the warehouse was great. Nice and creepy. The game's got some rough edges, but I do think it's worth checking out. It's not your typical MMO, and to me, that's one of the perks. As has been mentioned already, it DOES feel almost like a good single player RPG.

Originally posted by Albos

 If you don't work for turbine then I don't see how you talk so excited for a mediocre game which had to go f2p to maybe attract some population cause no one is playing it. I tried DDO and imo the game is worst then lotro and lotro is boring.

Hmm im playing wow but tried both lotro and Ddo. How on earth can u say the lotro crap is better than ddo?Lotro feels like a wow clone when u play it only it has worst combat mechanics.

Ddo has the best character proggresion/build system with feats/skills etc cant be compared with any other mmorpg in this department..also it has the best combat system by far compared to every other mmorpg. Also it has the best pve fights .

What ddo lacks is free roaming adventuring in the wilds like most mmorpg's do , and a well designed pvp system with ladder where players can compete with others like wow's arenas ..And thats the reason Ddo failed in subs and went free.

Originally posted by Albos

I bet this guy works for turbine.

Yeah, that's as scripted a marketing pitch as I have ever seen.  They should at least try to be a little covert with their viral marketing.  Then again Turbine suffers from the same garbage in their games.  Marketers pitching Aion and AoC are always popping up on glff in LOTRO with a level 1-5 char telling us all how great some other game is.  This industry seriously needs some regulation.

Originally posted by holdenhamlet

 

Keeping the dice rolling system and just speeding it up so you're theoretically rolling every half a second doesn't work for me.  I wish they either would've gotten rid of that system entirely or made it more of a turn based game with alot of quality and voice overs- although that would still get boring unlike if you're playing pen and paper with friends.

Agree 100% mate. I wouldn't mind pay evry sum of sub they would ask if i had the chance to play turn based d&d style as mmorpg.

In my opinion since they putted the old school roling in ddo there are 2 options only.

1.Either they should slow down a lot the attack speed so you can enjoy the rolls and watch them

2.Make it turn based so ppl can admire how ethistic and deep is the turn based combat. And i DONT mean the crap final fantasie turn based combat style or Atlantika online also crap turn based combat. I MEAN for example the temple of elemental's evil turn based combat where you have loads of options on what to do on every turn ,charge fight defensively,trip, and many many others things to do so ppl can see and admire how deep the turn based combat system style can be.

Originally posted by Wrender

Uhh no I'm actually laid off from a 22 dollar an hour job making the connectors in your computer that I had for last 8 years. (Man am I pissed off). I'm 49 yrs old, balding, toothless, I play rock guitar in a band, everyone who knows me thinks im crazy for playing computer games instead of sitting on the couch watching fooking football on tv all day like they do,and guzzling beer while thinking of laying thier best friend's wife. I also build gaming computers, And I can out party any of them any time of the day or night! And I have more fun than anyone should at my age I know!   :)~    ...Thank you very much.

And NO I do NOT play the fooking Wii.

Ohh, however I do love to eat Kimchi. I eat a LOT of it and boy, do I stink!

And NO I am not Korean.

lmfao

Amazing... You could be my husband's twin, down to the kimchi. 

Originally posted by Wrender

I have played virtually every mainstream MMO that has come out over the last 10 years or so. I am not new to the genere. Mainstream subscription games, Free to play games, Guild Wars(in a class by itself), Everything since early Everquest all the way to World of Warcraft and everything in between and how on earth did I miss this game is beyond me????You really need to check out DDO Unlimited I downloaded it for free the other day and OMG. I have never been this addicted to a game. This has got to be the best MMO I have ever played and to think it has been here for so long and I never tried it till now is simply put..Dumbfounding...It just boggles my mind to think that there was an MMO this good all along and I NEVER KNEW!!!. At first I didn't quite know what to think of it, but I kept at it and slowly began to realize the depth and complexity of it. And I'm only lvl 3 but that's like level 15 in other games. It is quite different than any other MMO that you are probably familiar with. Turbine has really changed things a lot I have heard from the players I meet. Everyone is loving this game I meet so it's not just me. The community is the best I have seen as well. It's free and the item shop is quite unlike any other cheap crappy item shop in other games. This is how an item shop SHOULD be done. (I can't believe I would have ever said that as I absolutely HATE F2P games with item shops) The game is quite frankly.......Fantastic! Give it a try...You will be glad you did! I swear I may never play another MMO for a Long time now and I waS really looking forward to Aion tommorrow, A friend has already bought me a copy and told me I had better be playing it! Quite frankly I just can't seem to tear myself away from DDO. I'm almost 50 yrs old and I really do think I have finally found my dream game.
 

Now I realise this game might not be for everyone that is used to being spoon fed with most all recent MMO's since World of Warcraft came along and Casualized (nice new word) the industry. DDO actually takes some thought as well as careful planning and strategy to run some of the better created dungeons that is in this game. And yeah I have been told by some that being able to repeat almost any dungeon(the difficulty scales upward each time) can get repetitive but so far I am loving it as I am also having a blast redoing them and taking groups of new players through and introducing them to the game. There are so many options in this game it is mindblowing. But it does take a bit to realize just how good this game really is. Lot more to it than it looks like at first! Also the best party finder I have ever seen in any game and grouping with good players that don't rush is where the game really shines.

Oh and the level cap right now is 20. That's the equivalent of level 100 in any other game. I can't imagine 100 levels of this kind of gameplay. I really do feel all warm and fuzzy all over! .........................**GASP**....................>><<

DDOs 20 levels are not like 100 levels or any other game. The gains you get between levels in DDO are not like real levels.
 

Originally posted by Kokushibyou

Originally posted by Albos

I bet this guy works for turbine.

 

Yeah, that's as scripted a marketing pitch as I have ever seen.  They should at least try to be a little covert with their viral marketing.  Then again Turbine suffers from the same garbage in their games.  Marketers pitching Aion and AoC are always popping up on glff in LOTRO with a level 1-5 char telling us all how great some other game is.  This industry seriously needs some regulation.

all of you who are screaming its a viral marketer are just silly foolish paranoid people, the OP has been on these forums for a day or 3 look at his post history FFS, he gets excited about any of the games he plays and it shows in his posts.

Reading comprehension and post history FTW sheesh

and to be quite honest DDO is doing quite well as a F2P game, my server is packed full of players any time day or night. and its fun to play as well great for a casual gamer , it is also has some depth to the character progression as you can easily screw your character up and have to reroll it from lessons learned.

Does it have some downsides? sure does but the perks outweigh the bad in my personal opinion (read personal opinion)

again this game will not be for everyone, but it is worth a look

Kudos to those who hearken to the heyday of NWN-powered D&D MORPGs! These were not "Massively" multiplayer --but they were Massively varied, creative and hilarious (except when deadly serious).

I've just discovered the "new", F2P DDO--and I'm very impressed! It's a lot of fun, and offers an experience customizable to each player. My feeling is that the ultimate "automated D&D" platform (where "automated" CAN mean "mutiplayer", but doesn't HAVE to, if one's in a mood to go solo) will incorporate design features of both NWN and DDO--as well as yet-to-be-invented coolness, of course. (My Grail: A gameplay system that supports--and an AI DM "who" can adjudicate the results of--creative Illusion spells, e.g. Spectral Force.)

I too was caught by surprise when it came to DDO. I started playing about two weeks ago and have been loving it since. I feel like I have more control over the build of my char than in other MMOs. I hope more people stumble across this and like it as much as I have. I'm surprised I like this game as much as I do because I really don't like instanced worlds and dungeons but for some reason I do in this game.

Originally posted by wolvie3131

Originally posted by Kokushibyou

Originally posted by Albos

I bet this guy works for turbine.

 

Yeah, that's as scripted a marketing pitch as I have ever seen.  They should at least try to be a little covert with their viral marketing.  Then again Turbine suffers from the same garbage in their games.  Marketers pitching Aion and AoC are always popping up on glff in LOTRO with a level 1-5 char telling us all how great some other game is.  This industry seriously needs some regulation.

 

all of you who are screaming its a viral marketer are just silly foolish paranoid people, the OP has been on these forums for a day or 3 look at his post history FFS, he gets excited about any of the games he plays and it shows in his posts.

Reading comprehension and post history FTW sheesh

 

and to be quite honest DDO is doing quite well as a F2P game, my server is packed full of players any time day or night. and its fun to play as well great for a casual gamer , it is also has some depth to the character progression as you can easily screw your character up and have to reroll it from lessons learned.

Does it have some downsides? sure does but the perks outweigh the bad in my personal opinion (read personal opinion)

again this game will not be for everyone, but it is worth a look

How about a little common sense FTW huh?  It's not like marketing companies work exclusively for a single client.  Why would someone get so hyped up over a lot of different crappy games over a long period of time?  Hmm, causedifferent companies pay them to?  And having a forum account open doesn't mean anything, it's free and anonymous.  It doesn't even have to be the same person writing each post.  Just the intern of the month using the companies account.

And so what ? People will download the game, try it, if they don't like it bye bye.

I don't see any problem.

Originally posted by 9Nineven

And so what ? People will download the game, try it, if they don't like it bye bye.

I don't see any problem.

This. ^^ It's a free to play game after all. Remember, kids. Paranoia will destroy ya.

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Originally posted by laokoko
I just started playing this game actually.  Have anyone actual level up to level20 and not spend a dime?

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If they have, I haven't seen it mentioned yet.

It takes quite a bit of grinding and collecting turbine points on every server to unlock enough of the higher level content. I was going to do just that, but the time investment is too big. I'll probably just buy a few thousand points and buy the end game stuff to save myself days of grinding.

*mod edit*...and i use that word in all its meaning....if someone praises a game you atuomatically say their working for the company....

i agree with him 100%, but not as crazy...lol

and the reason it went F2P is because no one wants 2 spend 15$ bones and most can't afford it  or can't do it. so free 2 play was a smart move. look at all the influx of players.....they even had to shut down for maintenance on release day. hell i am playin it with 5 other friends of mine since F2P, were as we would never of if it was still 15 bones.

and you NAY-SAYERS can gripe all you want and down it like little lame A**es, but the facts of the story are....DDO has done something smart and time will show....don't hate....i don't go on the World OF Warsuck and bitch and moan.

see you all in Stormreach....baby

I recently tried DDO again and I am really enjoying the feeling of having a story unfold as I progress through a mission. The dungeons are nicely done and the narration at different spots gives it a nice ADnD feel.

I really enjoyed the game at first.

Then I started grouping. It's gone downhill from there.

Group A, the power levelers, speed run dungeons. I was barely in a dungeon once and they already completed it.

Group B, the grinders, do the dungeons on normal speed, but multiple times (normal, hard, etite) for the XP.

Neither play style is fun for me, and the game really isn't terribly fun solo...again for me.

In all the games I've ever played, it's always been the players that make or break the game for me. DDO has a great bunch of players, veterans and new people alike. Unfortunately for a new person like me, having everyone else know exactly how a dungeon plays out ruins it =/