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9/21/09 2:37:42 AM#161
Hey people I dont know if you people know it!!!! BUT NCSOFT CANT GET THE SERVERS RIGHT FROM THEIR ASS!!!!!!!!!!! Servers cost money... the one they dont have... because they are the target of lots of lawsuits in the past few months... like the world.com one.... the Richard Garriot one.. yeah he quit ncsoft, got into space and now he sue ncsoft for more cash to return to space... and now one about some guy with a taleyer name or something.... dont really remember the last one... and a few other lawsuits..... in other words everyone is sucking the cash of ncsoft... wondering how they manage to finish up this game....
THE POINT IS!!!! THEY NEED THE CASH FROM THE BOXES SOLD IN ORDER TO HAVE MONEY FOR MORE SERVERS!!!!!!!!!! now they need someone to drive into the computer store to get the servers.... yeah right! and is weekend... stores are closed!! ps: servers are high end computers that are ordered and sended through mail or other private transport.. which also dont work on weekends.... NOT EVEN NCSOFT WORK ON WEEKENDS!!!!!!!
by the way quote me if you going to say something about me... thx
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9/21/09 2:44:13 AM#162
Originally posted by Pelu
Are you serious? The law suit is not even over yet, they don't need to pay anyone right now. No one even know who is going to win the law suit... NCsoft profit was up like 300% on the report... gees... please read more information before post something liek this...
Personally, I think 12 servers is about right for NA anyway, don't know what's the big deal here?? Or you want them to do it like China, has over 100 servers and lot of servers are empty?? |
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9/21/09 3:27:22 AM#163
Originally posted by teco221
Are you serious? The law suit is not even over yet, they don't need to pay anyone right now. No one even know who is going to win the law suit... NCsoft profit was up like 300% on the report... gees... please read more information before post something liek this...
Personally, I think 12 servers is about right for NA anyway, don't know what's the big deal here?? Or you want them to do it like China, has over 100 servers and lot of servers are empty??
Yes China does have over 100 servers (113 to be exact) but they, apparently if you can believe thier press reports, have over 1 million unique users in China. Thats an Avr. of 8-9000 per server. Sure some will be "empty" but I'd imagine they are the minority. Most of those 113 servers are apparently active with healthy populations.
I think most peoples issue is that they were allowed to pre-make characters on selected servers but then unable to log into said servers. I dont know how NCsoft handled this but I assume somewhere in thier system they knew that there were X-amount of pre-ordered accounts selecting each server. Maby they should have refused access to non-preselected folks to these "favored" servers after a pre-determined limit was reached. I remember the same issue with Warhammer online. Its known as "Guild seeding" Warhammer released the names of 12 or so servers before the headstart which was a terrible idea, as all the guilds "picked" one of those 12ish .. Seeding means that adding new servers on-the-fly does not work if you released a server list ahead of release. Reason being people already committed to a known server with thier guild. Seems NCsoft did the same thing allowing people to pick a server before release. It's alot more flexible if your consumers dont have a server list until release then guilds are free to move to lower pop servers. Knowing the server name before release just means you deal with seeding. The community made many posts on the Warhammer Alliance boards before the headstart about guild seeding, Myself included, and we were ignored. It lead to a massive Cluster-F on warhammers release and Aion is suffering from it too. Thier apparent reluctance to open more servers quickly is costing them too with the casuals that are not part of guild seeding. Non-affiliated folks will tend to hop to a server they can log onto rather than wait in a queue. Commited guild members will sit in a queue for hours and bitch about it ... Lesson to be learned, dont pre-release server names and dont allow people to "roll" characters ahead of release. It wont solve the whole problem but it will mean that your community is more flexible about which server they go to.
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9/21/09 3:38:33 AM#164
I played on Chinese server for over 2 months, Elyos is 100% dead on my server. No PvP what so ever, last time I checked Asmodian has 72% in Abyss and Elyos 0%. |
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9/21/09 9:14:38 AM#165
Originally posted by Dubhlaith
You honestly think you're going to not have a giant mass of people coming in to play on launch? Wow they really need to get this up and running just so half you guys won't feel like the only thing you can do is come to these forums and complain. Things go wrong during launches, and this is the de facto launch. Either you're so angry you can go play another game, or realize that complaining about it won't help you log in faster and wait in the line or get over it.
"God help us sinful children of Ivalice.." |
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9/21/09 1:00:04 PM#166
I strongly suspect that not everyone who preordered the game will necessarily get to participate in head-start now (including little me) which would be a real shame. |
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9/21/09 1:39:38 PM#167
Just to let you all know, im sitting next to my other half who is in the game, and the channel is empty, not one person in sight... that never happened with the open beta, and im still stuck in a 2000 strong queue and cant get in! Sort it out NCsoft, i know you have been over cautious with the population caps, this is not a success :P |
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9/21/09 1:45:47 PM#168
Originally posted by demarc01
There is another way.. make the chars global to all servers.. a bit like old Diablo 2 did.. you would just pick a server to play, but chars were stored in a global server. |
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9/21/09 1:48:14 PM#169
After posting my rant on Aions forums regarding 4hour queues... a fanboiz posted this up.
Elsavita
NCsoft is waiting for a few weeks, checking how many players are sticking to Aion etc. And then they might consider getting larger servers. At the moment they said they do not want to run the risk of upgrading to larger servers when it won't be necessary later. According to Elsavita, NCSOFT have deliberatley blocked access to the game for preorders because they want to check how many players stick with AION... So are these servers actually full? or blocked for Preorder customers. My advice, if your one of the ones going to buy this on launch date, is DONT! Do you really want to spend 30 quid to sit waiting 4 hours for patching, and then a futher 4 hours+ to get a chance to log on? http://uk.aiononline.com/forums/general/view?articleID=217&category=101 My thread on the subject |
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9/21/09 2:16:27 PM#170
They should have just called this a stress test xD
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9/21/09 6:14:56 PM#171
Well, I just got home for work. Just set down to play. 3 hour, 2400+ person queue. I will not be purchasing the game to reward their incompetence (they had the info and they had the numbers) and the fact I was counting on a 2 day head start and now that didn't happen either. Say what you will, defend them all you want, but in the end I will be speaking with my $50 and will put it towards another game. I guarantee I won't be the only one. |
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Kyleran
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Joined: 9/13/06
A simple truth-"What people want and what is good for an mmo is not always the same thing"-mrw0lf |
9/21/09 6:19:45 PM#172
Originally posted by Crim101
My son logged in earlier after waiting an hour through a 600+ queue, but after getting home from work (with my 2 new copies of the software that I just picked up) I find that both servers my guild has selected are showing 2000+, 3.25 hr queues to get in. Swell, just swell. At least I saved the receipt
"Just because you aren't paying doesn't mean it's not PTW." - Amaranthar |
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9/21/09 6:24:03 PM#173
I rmembered wow's launch day 1 million users tried to log in at the same time.... CRashing the login servers and all the server in World of warcraft crashed choked and died.. |
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9/21/09 6:31:11 PM#174
Originally posted by tillamook
In the end that is the crux of it. You sell a pre order with the promise of access on 9/21 and either you are prepared to allow those customers to access the game or not, all the rest is just noise meant to cover butts. People paid money to be able to play yesterday and NCsoft, either willingly on otherwise, wasn't able to accommodate them.
If they wanted to do a stress test or soft rolling launch to ensure even dispersion across the fewest number of servers then they should not have sold pre orders with the promise of game access on a date certain, period. -------------------------------- |
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9/21/09 6:33:20 PM#175
Originally posted by templarga
And all of us playing will be glad that all the whiners are leaving the game. Good riddance. |
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9/21/09 6:34:14 PM#176
Originally posted by AgtSmith
In the end that is the crux of it. You sell a pre order with the promise of access on 9/21 and either you are prepared to allow those customers to access the game or not, all the rest is just noise meant to cover butts. People paid money to be able to play yesterday and NCsoft, either willingly on otherwise, wasn't able to accommodate them.
If they wanted to do a stress test or soft rolling launch to ensure even dispersion across the fewest number of servers then they should not have sold pre orders with the promise of game access on a date certain, period. Exactly. And to Furor, that was WOW's "launch"....AIon hasn't launched yet...not until tomorrow. |
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Kyleran
Elite Member
Joined: 9/13/06
A simple truth-"What people want and what is good for an mmo is not always the same thing"-mrw0lf |
9/21/09 6:36:16 PM#177
Originally posted by madeux
And all of us playing will be glad that all the whiners are leaving the game. Good riddance.
Leaving "good" folks like yourself eh? ROFL..... "Just because you aren't paying doesn't mean it's not PTW." - Amaranthar |
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9/21/09 6:36:51 PM#178
Originally posted by madeux
And all of us playing will be glad that all the whiners are leaving the game. Good riddance. Fine call me a whiner. You can't debate and argue without calling anyone names anyway so its par for the course from you. Go ahead, reward their incompetence with your money and enjoy your game. I wish you the best. I though have high standards and demand at least a level of competence and forethought and professionalism from companies I choose to reward with my money. I rather be a whiner with ethics and ideals than someone who doesn't. |
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9/21/09 6:39:28 PM#179
Originally posted by templarga Fine call me a whiner. You can't debate and argue without calling anyone names anyway so its par for the course from you. Go ahead, reward their incompetence with your money and enjoy your game. I wish you the best. I though have high standards and demand at least a level of competence and forethought and professionalism from companies I choose to reward with my money. I rather be a whiner with ethics and ideals than someone who doesn't.
I didn't call you "Whiner", I called you a whiner. I described you, there was no name calling. The problems were all yours. There were servers available. You could have played. You chose to cry instead. |
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9/21/09 6:39:58 PM#180
Some very interesting few days are coming. It's gonna be fun... on the forums at least, if not ingame!
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