Originally posted by kazamx

I am really happy we have long queues on servers at the moment.

Yes it sucks to be stuck in the queue but MMOs are a long term thing and not a 2 day thing.

When a new MMO comes out everyone plays it loads. That means the servers are packed. I play double my normal hours at launch. After a week or two I cut my playtime back to normal. If everyone does that then the number of people online at any one time would half. On top of that you have the WOW tourists who will quit at the end of the month anyway.

If they add enough servers to cope with the current number of players online we will end up with ghost servers in a months time as people go back to normal playtimes and the tourists leave.

I would prefer queues for the first few weeks and then active busy servers for the months and years after that rather thn ghost servers.

We all saw the disaster that WAR and AOC servers became, lets not have that here.

IDK man....as much as the WoW fanboi's  like to continue bitching in the general area chat....I don't see them alt f4'ing out of the gaming and  going back to WoW. I still see them lvling and enjoying it. They just like to front that Aion is not better than WoW.

We know the real answer though. :]

This is nothing like those 2 failures. (AoC and WAR)

Originally posted by Shastra

 

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Originally posted by Hepisodic

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Originally posted by Salvatoris

 

Is everyone forgetting that the game has already been out for a while?   Of course it's ready for launch now, it's just localization of a game that was already up and running in another language. :/ 

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Have you forgotten that WoW has been out for 5 years and no patch or expansion has ever been this smooth? 
Or the fact that no WoW server Q went as fast as 10  mins for a 300 person Q? (friend got stuck after 11 pm in a 674 person Q and said it took him 25 minutes Tops. Unheard of in WoW.

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You still don't get it. AIon has been our for more then 3 years as a live game. People had time to give feedback regarding bugs and company had plenty of time to polish it. You can not make comparison with other MMO which did not have this luxury. You are making it sound as if Aion just came out of one month beta for first time and suddenly set up some standards. Give 3 years to any MMO out there and they will be as good as Aion in terms of playability.

Hell even AOC is such a playable game after one year.

3 years?? You best check those facts Sir.

South Korea
Aion was released in South Korea on November 28, 2008. Making this the first country to get a final release of the game. Given the success of NCsoft's previous games, Lineage and Lineage II, Aion had been a highly anticipated game in South Korea ever since its announcement. At the end of 2008 Aion won the award "Best Korean Game of the Year" for its "epic scale, immersive story, and stunning graphics and sound design".

It hasn't been even a year yet...

And again, WoW has been out for 5 years. (Legit 5 years....) and still can't have this kind of lauch with expansions.... OR patches.

This game just might cut down that 400 lb. gorilla in the room that is WOW. I predict that Aion will be big. I just hope NC Soft is ready for the masses that are sure to come!

Originally posted by Regnevanz

That new website - A game with bugger all bugs?

I can't think of any other game this polished with such good community functions at launch?

What are you smoking and would you please share? The game hasn't officially launched, for one, and two - the 5 hour queues and server crashes hardly constitute a smooth sudo-launch. CoH had a much better launch by far, and so did LotRO. I like Aion, but this headstart launch (which is what it actually is) was pretty much handled incredibly poorly.

I guess you think only a WoW clone can be the WoW killer....

Originally posted by Puuk

Originally posted by Regnevanz

That new website - A game with bugger all bugs?

I can't think of any other game this polished with such good community functions at launch?

 

What are you smoking and would you please share? The game hasn't officially launched, for one, and two - the 5 hour queues and server crashes hardly constitute a smooth sudo-launch. CoH had a much better launch by far, and so did LotRO. I like Aion, but this headstart launch (which is what it actually is) was pretty much handled incredibly poorly.

define poorly? Cause I don't think anyone who was online in the servers thinks the game was handled Poorly at all. 

There is nothing to complain about. What are YOU smoking?

Originally posted by Hepisodic

Originally posted by Puuk

Originally posted by Regnevanz

That new website - A game with bugger all bugs?

I can't think of any other game this polished with such good community functions at launch?

 

What are you smoking and would you please share? The game hasn't officially launched, for one, and two - the 5 hour queues and server crashes hardly constitute a smooth sudo-launch. CoH had a much better launch by far, and so did LotRO. I like Aion, but this headstart launch (which is what it actually is) was pretty much handled incredibly poorly.

 

define poorly? Cause I don't think anyone who was online in the servers thinks the game was handled Poorly at all. 

 

There is nothing to complain about. What are YOU smoking?

So the people playing had no complaints... what about the people waiting in the queue for hours at a time?  I guess their complaints don't count. :/

Originally posted by Salvatoris

Originally posted by Hepisodic

Originally posted by Puuk

Originally posted by Regnevanz

That new website - A game with bugger all bugs?

I can't think of any other game this polished with such good community functions at launch?

 

What are you smoking and would you please share? The game hasn't officially launched, for one, and two - the 5 hour queues and server crashes hardly constitute a smooth sudo-launch. CoH had a much better launch by far, and so did LotRO. I like Aion, but this headstart launch (which is what it actually is) was pretty much handled incredibly poorly.

 

define poorly? Cause I don't think anyone who was online in the servers thinks the game was handled Poorly at all. 

 

There is nothing to complain about. What are YOU smoking?

 

So the people playing had no complaints... what about the people waiting in the queue for hours at a time?  I guess their complaints don't count. :/

I highly doubt it was hours. I don't know about the EU servers but the NA servers didn't have any problems. Like I said before my friend had a 670 something Q and I had a  ~300 Q and we both were in in ~ 30 mins. 

Also. Q Lines aren't something Ncsoft really cares about right now. If anything they love it because they know how many more people want to play. They will soon lvl everything out and all will be well. Day one of the headstart is hardly the time to worry about server Q's.... 400,000 people logging into (what was it?) ~10 servers, yeah there will be a Q. But you know what? While all you poor  souls were stuck in Q. There was no overload lag in the servers you guys were trying to get into. We played perfect, Undisturbed games. 

Originally posted by Hepisodic

Originally posted by Salvatoris

Originally posted by Hepisodic

Originally posted by Puuk

Originally posted by Regnevanz

That new website - A game with bugger all bugs?

I can't think of any other game this polished with such good community functions at launch?

 

What are you smoking and would you please share? The game hasn't officially launched, for one, and two - the 5 hour queues and server crashes hardly constitute a smooth sudo-launch. CoH had a much better launch by far, and so did LotRO. I like Aion, but this headstart launch (which is what it actually is) was pretty much handled incredibly poorly.

 

define poorly? Cause I don't think anyone who was online in the servers thinks the game was handled Poorly at all. 

 

There is nothing to complain about. What are YOU smoking?

 

So the people playing had no complaints... what about the people waiting in the queue for hours at a time?  I guess their complaints don't count. :/

 

I highly doubt it was hours. I don't know about the EU servers but the NA servers didn't have any problems. Like I said before my friend had a 670 something Q and I had a  ~300 Q and we both were in in ~ 30 mins. 

 

Also. Q Lines aren't something Ncsoft really cares about right now. If anything they love it because they know how many more people want to play. They will soon lvl everything out and all will be well. Day one of the headstart is hardly the time to worry about server Q's.... 400,000 people logging into (what was it?) ~10 servers, yeah there will be a Q. But you know what? While all you poor  souls were stuck in Q. There was no overload lag in the servers you guys were trying to get into. We played perfect, Undisturbed games. 

Just to let you know, not every server is like yours. My guilds server had over 3k Q and it was taking atleast 1-2 hours...so yea

Originally posted by Hepisodic

Originally posted by Salvatoris

Originally posted by Hepisodic

Originally posted by Puuk

Originally posted by Regnevanz

That new website - A game with bugger all bugs?

I can't think of any other game this polished with such good community functions at launch?

 

What are you smoking and would you please share? The game hasn't officially launched, for one, and two - the 5 hour queues and server crashes hardly constitute a smooth sudo-launch. CoH had a much better launch by far, and so did LotRO. I like Aion, but this headstart launch (which is what it actually is) was pretty much handled incredibly poorly.

 

define poorly? Cause I don't think anyone who was online in the servers thinks the game was handled Poorly at all. 

 

There is nothing to complain about. What are YOU smoking?

 

So the people playing had no complaints... what about the people waiting in the queue for hours at a time?  I guess their complaints don't count. :/

 

I highly doubt it was hours. I don't know about the EU servers but the NA servers didn't have any problems. Like I said before my friend had a 670 something Q and I had a  ~300 Q and we both were in in ~ 30 mins. 

 

Also. Q Lines aren't something Ncsoft really cares about right now. If anything they love it because they know how many more people want to play. They will soon lvl everything out and all will be well. Day one of the headstart is hardly the time to worry about server Q's.... 400,000 people logging into (what was it?) ~10 servers, yeah there will be a Q. But you know what? While all you poor  souls were stuck in Q. There was no overload lag in the servers you guys were trying to get into. We played perfect, Undisturbed games. 

You doubt it was hours? I personally waited 5 hours. Your friend got lucky and you are "doubting" events you did  not witness.

Originally posted by crunchyblack

This is going to be Aions 3rd launch now?  Korea, China (am i missing one?), Now EU/NA.

How many closed then open betas did they do?

It better go pretty damn smooth.

I still expect some lag issues for some people however.

Besides lag issues and quee's I would be surprised IF they suddenly see a lot of issues with the launch. As you wrote they have launched the  game twice so far so the typical launch bugs should not be a issue now.

The queue and the wait time you see right now is actually NCSoft model for the launch day. The short answer is NO, THEY WILL NOT FIX IT. It's their intention in the first place. They intentionally make you wait. Will they add more servers? May be later, but not now. Let me make it more clear. This is their model for launch day. It will not change. You will have to wait until the rush is over. It will probably be several weeks.

This exact same thing happened twice before at Korean and Chinese launch. You will see queue for a while and then after the rush is over, then they will evaluate the server load and added more server if needed.

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Originally posted by Hepisodic

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Originally posted by Shastra

 

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Originally posted by Hepisodic

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Originally posted by Salvatoris
 
Is everyone forgetting that the game has already been out for a while?   Of course it's ready for launch now, it's just localization of a game that was already up and running in another language. :/ 

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Have you forgotten that WoW has been out for 5 years and no patch or expansion has ever been this smooth? 
Or the fact that no WoW server Q went as fast as 10  mins for a 300 person Q? (friend got stuck after 11 pm in a 674 person Q and said it took him 25 minutes Tops. Unheard of in WoW.

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You still don't get it. AIon has been our for more then 3 years as a live game. People had time to give feedback regarding bugs and company had plenty of time to polish it. You can not make comparison with other MMO which did not have this luxury. You are making it sound as if Aion just came out of one month beta for first time and suddenly set up some standards. Give 3 years to any MMO out there and they will be as good as Aion in terms of playability.
Hell even AOC is such a playable game after one year.

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3 years?? You best check those facts Sir.
 
South Korea
Aion was released in South Korea on November 28, 2008. Making this the first country to get a final release of the game. Given the success of NCsoft's previous games, Lineage and Lineage II, Aion had been a highly anticipated game in South Korea ever since its announcement. At the end of 2008 Aion won the award "Best Korean Game of the Year" for its "epic scale, immersive story, and stunning graphics and sound design".
 
It hasn't been even a year yet...
 
And again, WoW has been out for 5 years. (Legit 5 years....) and still can't have this kind of lauch with expansions.... OR patches.
 

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Aion Closed beta testing in Korea began in late 2007, so its not just one year. You didn't answer my previous question. How many lvls have you played? have you seen entire content of Aion that you know this game has no bugs at all? its unfair to compare Aion which went through beta twice and had one year of live game experience with other MMO who never had this luxury.

no it is not. it isn't the worst either tho.

Originally posted by Shastra 

its unfair to compare Aion which went through beta twice and had one year of live game experience with other MMO who never had this luxury.

Or course its not unfair - what a funny comment to make.  WOW and others benefitted massively from the same phenomenon in reverse (e.g. when that game opened in China) so why not the other way round?

I would say its one of the best done launches I have ever seen. Game is very polished, very high quality, I think they should have made 4 more servers but truth be told they probably predict the rapid downfall of players come after the first 30 days are up. So the servers they have is more than  likely enough to keep the ones who will stay happy and with plenty of people to play with. 

I think its a bit too early to say.  If they sort the current queuing mess out in the next day or so then I think it is up there.  Most games have teething problems the first 48 or so hours.

However if not then the game will be nigh on launched in the EU with plenty of people not being able to take advantage of one of the bonuses that they parted money for early - which I think will drive quite a few away (particularly as I can't see it getting any better when the game is launched officially).  The next 24 hours I think are very important to the way this story will be told in the future.

Originally posted by FunkyLasagne

Originally posted by Shastra 

its unfair to compare Aion which went through beta twice and had one year of live game experience with other MMO who never had this luxury.

 

Or course its not unfair - what a funny comment to make.  WOW and others benefitted massively from the same phenomenon in reverse (e.g. when that game opened in China) so why not the other way round?

So we should only compare the aion launch to the launch of WoW in China....  Which point were you arguing?

I doubt it had a better launch than WAR, which was flawless. WAR can hang its hat on that, at least. Too bad its worthless to creditors.