Originally posted by Vinterkrig

Originally posted by MisterSr

Elyos don't look like fruitcakes, haha, you can make them look that way, but the truth is that they just look like normal humans. :P and to be honest if I saw an Asmodian in real life, I probably would just stare at them and label them mentally as a freak. But for all pertensive purposes, Asmodian is definitely the cooler race, although Elyos at high levels get some kickass armor and wings.

 

they look like very feminine, the males anyways... fruitcakes :D

 

and your poll will give you no solid information to determine anything other then the very small % of mmorpg.com aion players

 

 http://www.aionsource.com/forum/attachments/marchutan-east/7766d1253367579-character-pics-aion0000.jpg

   If I was going to buy this game, which I'm not. I would go with the Asmodian side. Their city is so much more detailed and better looking. Plus I'm sure it would be the more mature side. Like WoW all the five to twenty year olds will populate the alliance side, so that means that all the little kiddies will be the Elyos.

Looks pretty even so far. Elyos for me.

I'm planning on playing both.  Had a chance to experience both factions during the beta and really enjoyed the difference in the quest progression to Ascension.  Can hardly wait for noon tomorrow!

Basing server balance by a poll on a forum of which maybe 1:1000 people will actually vote on, is a bad way to come to conclusions.

Server balance will be fine because NCSoft is smart and taking control of it.

Originally posted by Shiymmas

Originally posted by Vinterkrig

i had to go Asmodian, because they Elyos look like a bunch of fruitcakes o_O  honestly, i was gonna suck it up and deal with the lameness that is Elyos because my wifes WH guild is playing that side, and one of the guys called it angelic , and I told her that was my nail in the coffin.

 

...and joining you will be the thousands of other insecure xeno/homophobes that think Elyos are "gay" because they have white wings and sunlight!

I hate to get into stereotypes, but man you just filled one.  I know I don't understand the context of what some guy said on vent; I wasn't there.  However, the guy stated a very plain and clear fact which is that Elyos do look "angelic".  I mean, is someone on the opposite end going to get offended when their asmodian toon is called "demonic"?  Oh, naw, because clearly that's acceptable and cool.  Frankly, I'm sooo glad that I'm beyond an age of being insecure and wrapped up in what someone else might think of me if I play the lighter, cheerier side of things because if not, I might let my experience be ruined by the rampant immaturity on the asmodian side, too.

i see his point and it has nothing to do with "white wings and sunlight" the male elyos scout stands like a pregnant woman. it has nothing to do with being insecure either, if my character is standing like that, kinda looses the immersion that he's some killing machine at war.
 

As stated I think that the servers are going to be pretty balanced and NC is'nt going the route of Warhammer and Aoc by dumping a bunch of xtra servers out there.  They, by all appearances, are taking care to fill the 24 servers they have up.   I was really worried about the balance with such a seemingly a high percent of people wanting to play Asmo, but I think they have it under control.....fingers crossed.

Originally posted by abyss610

Originally posted by Shiymmas

Originally posted by Vinterkrig

i had to go Asmodian, because they Elyos look like a bunch of fruitcakes o_O  honestly, i was gonna suck it up and deal with the lameness that is Elyos because my wifes WH guild is playing that side, and one of the guys called it angelic , and I told her that was my nail in the coffin.

 

...and joining you will be the thousands of other insecure xeno/homophobes that think Elyos are "gay" because they have white wings and sunlight!

I hate to get into stereotypes, but man you just filled one.  I know I don't understand the context of what some guy said on vent; I wasn't there.  However, the guy stated a very plain and clear fact which is that Elyos do look "angelic".  I mean, is someone on the opposite end going to get offended when their asmodian toon is called "demonic"?  Oh, naw, because clearly that's acceptable and cool.  Frankly, I'm sooo glad that I'm beyond an age of being insecure and wrapped up in what someone else might think of me if I play the lighter, cheerier side of things because if not, I might let my experience be ruined by the rampant immaturity on the asmodian side, too.

i see his point and it has nothing to do with "white wings and sunlight" the male elyos scout stands like a pregnant woman. it has nothing to do with being insecure either, if my character is standing like that, kinda looses the immersion that he's some killing machine at war.
 

If that had been all he'd said, then fair point.  However, I was responding to his statements as a whole, particularly the "angelic" part, and making a counter-point.

As for your defense, I guess I can see that........but wait, asmodian males (particularly scouts) have an idle stance that looks like they're zero-confidence kids standing with their heads slumped.  I mean, given a preference (yay choice!) I pick good posture.  I don't see this "pregnant woman" stance of which you speak.  I see elyos males standing with their shoulders back, and their heads high, rather than looking defeated before they start.  Different strokes for different folks I reckon...

I picked Elyos. I'm not a lore nerd for this game or anything, but I don't recall either side being the "bad guys," so it's really not a good versus bad thing, more of a light versus dark thing. I chose Elyos, because I do like sunnier environments than dark environments. Plus I wouldn't want claws in real life, so why would I in a game? It's ugly as hell, to be honest. Blue skin too? Yuck!

However, the black wings are cooler than white wings and the red eyes are cool, but neither is significant enough to make me roll Asmo. To all those saying they're rolling Asmo due to friends, and that they were forced too, I call bullshit. My guild, TOG, chose to roll Asmo, so I can't join them in this game. It shows that people have choices. Your friends may play one race, but that doesn't mean you have to. You'll always meet new friends. Grow a backbone and play the race you really want to.

Originally posted by abyss610

Originally posted by Shiymmas

Originally posted by Vinterkrig

i had to go Asmodian, because they Elyos look like a bunch of fruitcakes o_O  honestly, i was gonna suck it up and deal with the lameness that is Elyos because my wifes WH guild is playing that side, and one of the guys called it angelic , and I told her that was my nail in the coffin.

 

...and joining you will be the thousands of other insecure xeno/homophobes that think Elyos are "gay" because they have white wings and sunlight!

I hate to get into stereotypes, but man you just filled one.  I know I don't understand the context of what some guy said on vent; I wasn't there.  However, the guy stated a very plain and clear fact which is that Elyos do look "angelic".  I mean, is someone on the opposite end going to get offended when their asmodian toon is called "demonic"?  Oh, naw, because clearly that's acceptable and cool.  Frankly, I'm sooo glad that I'm beyond an age of being insecure and wrapped up in what someone else might think of me if I play the lighter, cheerier side of things because if not, I might let my experience be ruined by the rampant immaturity on the asmodian side, too.

i see his point and it has nothing to do with "white wings and sunlight" the male elyos scout stands like a pregnant woman. it has nothing to do with being insecure either, if my character is standing like that, kinda looses the immersion that he's some killing machine at war.
 

and thats my point. the way they stand around and whatnot, just not my thing. if its your thats great, enjoy it, i'm not trying to change your mind. i could give a shit what someone thinks of me, and to be honest i'm only playing this game because my pregnant wife was a little down that she wont be able to do much other then play a game for the next 7 months, so I said I'd join her. and she thinks the whole cheery white winged sun bathed elyos is kinda gay looking herself, go figure ... she likes to make disfigured troll looking characters o_O  Frankly, I love people who whine about what someone says and thinks of themselves as any better then the other person.. so mature! +2 Great Job!

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Originally posted by Vinterkrig

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Originally posted by abyss610

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Originally posted by Shiymmas

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Originally posted by Vinterkrig

i had to go Asmodian, because they Elyos look like a bunch of fruitcakes o_O  honestly, i was gonna suck it up and deal with the lameness that is Elyos because my wifes WH guild is playing that side, and one of the guys called it angelic , and I told her that was my nail in the coffin.

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...and joining you will be the thousands of other insecure xeno/homophobes that think Elyos are "gay" because they have white wings and sunlight!
I hate to get into stereotypes, but man you just filled one.  I know I don't understand the context of what some guy said on vent; I wasn't there.  However, the guy stated a very plain and clear fact which is that Elyos do look "angelic".  I mean, is someone on the opposite end going to get offended when their asmodian toon is called "demonic"?  Oh, naw, because clearly that's acceptable and cool.  Frankly, I'm sooo glad that I'm beyond an age of being insecure and wrapped up in what someone else might think of me if I play the lighter, cheerier side of things because if not, I might let my experience be ruined by the rampant immaturity on the asmodian side, too.

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i see his point and it has nothing to do with "white wings and sunlight" the male elyos scout stands like a pregnant woman. it has nothing to do with being insecure either, if my character is standing like that, kinda looses the immersion that he's some killing machine at war.
 

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and thats my point. the way they stand around and whatnot, just not my thing. if its your thats great, enjoy it, i'm not trying to change your mind. i could give a shit what someone thinks of me, and to be honest i'm only playing this game because my pregnant wife was a little down that she wont be able to do much other then play a game for the next 7 months, so I said I'd join her. and she thinks the whole cheery white winged sun bathed elyos is kinda gay looking herself, go figure ... she likes to make disfigured troll looking characters o_O  Frankly, I love people who whine about what someone says and thinks of themselves as any better then the other person.. so mature! +2 Great Job!

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Really, this thread wasn't made to make dispute over looks. Lol, both races look according to the culture and lore the developers made for them, so if you preffer to look dark and demonic or light and angelic is really a prefference. Either way I don't care, I am just rolling Elyos for the more mature community, which I can attest to cause I leveled characters on both Asmodian and Elyos sides during beta.

Originally posted by MisterSr

 

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Originally posted by Vinterkrig

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Originally posted by abyss610

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Originally posted by Shiymmas

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Originally posted by Vinterkrig

 

i had to go Asmodian, because they Elyos look like a bunch of fruitcakes o_O  honestly, i was gonna suck it up and deal with the lameness that is Elyos because my wifes WH guild is playing that side, and one of the guys called it angelic , and I told her that was my nail in the coffin.

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...and joining you will be the thousands of other insecure xeno/homophobes that think Elyos are "gay" because they have white wings and sunlight!
I hate to get into stereotypes, but man you just filled one.  I know I don't understand the context of what some guy said on vent; I wasn't there.  However, the guy stated a very plain and clear fact which is that Elyos do look "angelic".  I mean, is someone on the opposite end going to get offended when their asmodian toon is called "demonic"?  Oh, naw, because clearly that's acceptable and cool.  Frankly, I'm sooo glad that I'm beyond an age of being insecure and wrapped up in what someone else might think of me if I play the lighter, cheerier side of things because if not, I might let my experience be ruined by the rampant immaturity on the asmodian side, too.

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i see his point and it has nothing to do with "white wings and sunlight" the male elyos scout stands like a pregnant woman. it has nothing to do with being insecure either, if my character is standing like that, kinda looses the immersion that he's some killing machine at war.
 

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and thats my point. the way they stand around and whatnot, just not my thing. if its your thats great, enjoy it, i'm not trying to change your mind. i could give a shit what someone thinks of me, and to be honest i'm only playing this game because my pregnant wife was a little down that she wont be able to do much other then play a game for the next 7 months, so I said I'd join her. and she thinks the whole cheery white winged sun bathed elyos is kinda gay looking herself, go figure ... she likes to make disfigured troll looking characters o_O  Frankly, I love people who whine about what someone says and thinks of themselves as any better then the other person.. so mature! +2 Great Job!

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Really, this thread wasn't made to make dispute over looks. Lol, both races look according to the culture and lore the developers made for them, so if you preffer to look dark and demonic or light and angelic is really a prefference. Either way I don't care, I am just rolling Elyos for the more mature community, which I can attest to cause I leveled characters on both Asmodian and Elyos sides during beta.

your a firm believer in basic sample sized statistics huh?

Originally posted by Vinterkrig

and thats my point. the way they stand around and whatnot, just not my thing. if its your thats great, enjoy it, i'm not trying to change your mind. i could give a shit what someone thinks of me, and to be honest i'm only playing this game because my pregnant wife was a little down that she wont be able to do much other then play a game for the next 7 months, so I said I'd join her. and she thinks the whole cheery white winged sun bathed elyos is kinda gay looking herself, go figure ... she likes to make disfigured troll looking characters o_O  Frankly, I love people who whine about what someone says and thinks of themselves as any better then the other person.. so mature! +2 Great Job!

Admittedly, I've just about dropped the level of my posts down to troll-mode.  I'm bored, it's fun, and I'm not really stepping on anyone's nuts here, just picking at my future competition.  I know that there's plenty of folks playing asmos because it's just their preference, be it the zones, the eyes, the claws, the flips, the black wings, or even the music.  It's still fun to mess with them... a little forum PVP imo.  Besides, you're calling my race fruity and gay.  Just wait til you see my pompoms and taunts.  Talk about camp.

That said, a large portion of my opinions on the races is based on what I experienced in the beta, and what I've seen from players on both sides in the forums here and elsewhere.  There's no doubt both sides will have their fair share of jerks/kids/asshats, it's just that in my experience, I've already seen far more swaying towards asmo.  Thankfully, even without that perception, elyos would still be my choice for the fact that they are underpopulated, I don't like the darkness of the asmo side (I'll be avoiding the sun enough already just by playing), and overall while I think they stick a bit more to conventional looks, I really prefer how awesome the characters can look in their details which are hidden as asmodian by their tattered, glowing, pointy armor and black-as-night wings.

Edit: As a side note, another one of my favorite things about elyos is how they lend themselves to tongue-in-cheek humor.  I don't think my character's gay for cheering with pompoms or flailing like a girl when he taunts.  Looks more like mockery of my enemies to me.  I mean, male elyos even pick their nose, inspect it, and flick it when you /sleep and lay on your floating cloud.  The asmodian side is just entirely too serious all the way through for me.  Seemed worth noting on this post.

The marketing is interesting too. If you look at the pages in the manual (I have my copy already), for the Elyos, it's a male in full plate heavy armor with a really big axe, but he looks maybe 17. For the Asmodians, it's a female with the expected amount of cleavage showing, and sporting those ridiculous shoulder blade armor pieces. The picture shows neither the clawed feet, nor the back hair-ridge.  Which is more likely to attract the teen male audience? (Note I am aware there is a larger audience, but the male teen demographic is a sizable chunk of any MMO population.)

If I was stereotyping the two factions, I'd have reversed the gender of the sample characters - Elyos an angelic female, Asmo a rugged male. Maybe that's why I'm not in marketing.

Elyos, I really thought the back hair and claws looked stupid.   As far as rudeness in chat, I didnt see much of a difference in beta.  No matter which side has more overall, both sides will have days when they are outnumbered, thats just the way it happens.

Dont whine when you are faced with numbers people, Adapt, Improvise, Overcome....cause its gonna happen.

Been in since CB3, and have played Asmo the whole time, and had plans to roll Asmo..

Logged in for the preselect, and a good number of servers had Asmo locked up.

 Took me all of three seconds to switch to Ely.. I like a target rich enviorment, and hate waiting when i want to play. As someone said already, you can make a pretty mean looking Elyos if you try..

I could have waited, as i figured the Asmo side would open up soon enough, but i'd much rather play on the underdog side. Especially if the game has a balancing factor (Balaur) in case things get too out of hand.

One of each, both named Ender :)

I like the fact that there's not really an "evil" and a "good" side, there's just two opposing sides, although too many people ignorantly assume otherwise.

The reason I picked Asmo was I usually play the "good" side on an MMO. The only thing that makes Elyos look gay is the unicorn on the Assassins shoulder in the selection screen (you can do skin transfers of items so it doesn't matter although many people might not know this). Actually..Elyos seem to have more detail to be honest and if you go into the char creation you can make their skin black which I like and also this deep red color which blows any of the Asmo skin colors out of the water imo.

Given the current 75 votes and 54. 7% Elyos vs. 45.3% Asmodian, the 95% Wald confidence interval for the population proportion for Elyos is (0.447,0.646).  Since 0.5 is contained in this interval, there is insufficient evidence to conclude that the proportion of people playing one faction is greater than the other. However, there are issues with sampling bias given the way the poll was conducted.

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Originally posted by Loben
Given the current 75 votes and 54. 7% Elyos vs. 45.3% Asmodian, the 95% Wald confidence interval for the population proportion for Elyos is (0.447,0.646).  Since 0.5 is contained in this interval, there is insufficient evidence to conclude that the proportion of people playing one faction is greater than the other. However, there are issues with sampling bias given the way the poll was conducted.

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