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  glofish

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Joined: 9/06/09
Posts: 351

 
9/18/09 9:44:27 PM#1

I think NCSoft does not fully understand just how many people are ready to jump ship to Aion. For god's sake they have 400,000 preorders and only 24 servers (US and Euro total)!!!

 

That makes for 16K guaranteed people per server. I think the capacity of a server is at most 10K people. And I am being generous here after all WOW servers take no more than 5K simultaneous users before queues kick in. Note that we're not even taking into account regular retail sales.

 

I think the servers will be night unplayable until they open up at least 20 more servers.

 

  Daft

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Joined: 5/03/04
Posts: 109

Everquest

9/18/09 9:47:09 PM#2

I think they want to have the servers overloaded so they can be like wow. If you want to beat WOW you gota be WOW lol

  drbaltazar

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Joined: 3/28/07
Posts: 7366

9/18/09 9:48:16 PM#3
Originally posted by glofish

I think NCSoft does not fully understand just how many people are ready to jump ship to Aion. For god's sake they have 400,0000 preorders and only 24 servers (US and Euro total)!!!

 

That makes for 16K guaranteed people per server. I think the capacity of a server is at most 10K people. And I am being generous here after all WOW servers take no more than 5K simultaneous users before queues kick in. Note that we're not even taking into account regular retail sales.

 

I think the servers will be night unplayable until they open up at least 20 more servers.

 

nha you ll be able to walk on other it will still play it was full the other day and we go 250 ms lag that small patch did very good

  arctarus

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Joined: 9/26/06
Posts: 2418

9/18/09 9:48:48 PM#4

It will be better they leave it this way for awhile for the subs to average out. Players will look for other sververs once the 1 they are hoping to get into is lock.

Right now there's still servers not yet lock out. Releasing too much servers too fast will thin out the pop, look at War. Dont make the same mistake...

 

 

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  andorov

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Joined: 1/22/09
Posts: 28

9/18/09 9:49:38 PM#5

First of all, you have a typo. You  meant 400,000 not 4,000,000.

Secondly, while it may even be correct that 400,000 people will play, all of them will not play at the same time.

No company is stupid enough to set up an extra 20 servers just to accomodate the surge they get on week 1 (when everyone wants to play 24/7). After week 1, 16000 subs per server translates to about 5-10k concurrent users. 

So I think they've done their math right.

  drbaltazar

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9/18/09 9:50:02 PM#6
Originally posted by Daft

I think they want to have the servers overloaded so they can be like wow. If you want to beat WOW you gota be WOW lol

lol check how many player can be on a wow server 

rumor is capacity of one aion server is 60000 ip

  Krilster

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Joined: 7/14/09
Posts: 235

9/18/09 9:51:06 PM#7
Originally posted by Daft

I think they want to have the servers overloaded so they can be like wow. If you want to beat WOW you gota be WOW lol

What a stupid comment.


To the OP, they've said they will add more servers as needed because they want the best possible experience for the players.
So basically, more will be added within a couple weeks of release more than likely.

  teco221

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Joined: 1/20/06
Posts: 367

9/18/09 9:52:35 PM#8

At least you know there will be people there to fight unlike War with so many empty servers I don't mine q for the game, that way you know it's ALIVE!!! :D

  Tisiphone

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9/18/09 9:52:36 PM#9


Originally posted by Krilster

Originally posted by Daft

I think they want to have the servers overloaded so they can be like wow. If you want to beat WOW you gota be WOW lol



What a stupid comment.


To the OP, they've said they will add more servers as needed because they want the best possible experience for the players.
So basically, more will be added within a couple weeks of release more than likely.


They are also trying to fill each server up with an equal number of people from each faction, and then fill up the next one, in order.

If they open 30 at once, it will be really difficult to do that.


  User Deleted
9/18/09 9:56:43 PM#10

 My legion members are disappointed cause only half of us got characters ready the rest can't server is locked. I know you say jump on next server but we are a legion we need everyone on same server.

  glofish

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Joined: 9/06/09
Posts: 351

 
9/18/09 9:57:18 PM#11
Originally posted by drbaltazar

lol check how many player can be on a wow server 

rumor is capacity of one aion server is 60000 ip

 

Sorry but I really doubt this number

 

Imagine that you are in the abyss  say a year later when 80% of the population is high level. Can you imagine what would it be like to have 50,000 peeps on one map?

 

Note that while at low levels they may be able to shard in to zones (instances), there are no instances at higher level, everyone plays in the same region (at least better be that way or else!)

 

  Krilster

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Posts: 235

9/18/09 9:58:17 PM#12
Originally posted by Albos

 My legion members are disappointed cause only half of us got characters ready the rest can't server is locked. I know you say jump on next server but we are a legion we need everyone on same server.

 

They'll just have to wait it out unfortunately. lol
That's the price we pay for faction balance. :)

  LodenDSG

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Joined: 12/10/07
Posts: 267

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9/18/09 9:58:33 PM#13
Originally posted by drbaltazar
Originally posted by Daft

I think they want to have the servers overloaded so they can be like wow. If you want to beat WOW you gota be WOW lol

lol check how many player can be on a wow server 

rumor is capacity of one aion server is 60000 ip


 

I dont doubt there servers can handle 10s of k I have played several games with a boasted single server popualtion usualy around 50k  and yes loged in simo. Now I have no idea what NC has set up the Aion servers to handel its not just what the server side can handle mechanicaly but also what the structure of the world was intended to handel. I do however have some small faith that NCSoft who has done this before . . . several times before can do the basic math and know within a resonable margen what they have coming in and what they can handel and they have te reasources to throw more servers at it as needed.

I for one and so damn happy to see them take such a proactive stance on server population control, I hope they do it well and that is yet to be seen but they are trying and the plan seems like it will work to give us fully populated but not over populated balanced servers which will be very important for the mid to end game with Aion imo.

  Wickedjelly

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Joined: 4/19/09
Posts: 3382

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9/18/09 10:04:04 PM#14

One of the biggest mistakes companies have been making lately is going overboard on server additions so if I would worry about anything it would be NCSoft doing that.

1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.

2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.

3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.

  raykor

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Joined: 11/28/05
Posts: 303

9/18/09 10:24:57 PM#15

Aion has a strong focus on open- world PvP and that requires a high population to succeed.  They can always add some servers in a few months after they get a better idea of the retention rate and the real population.

  Scyris

Novice Member

Joined: 5/12/07
Posts: 148

9/18/09 10:28:48 PM#16

Meh I bet less than half will stay past the first free month, Aion is bascally just a korean grinder (plays like one to). They'll probally be lucky to have 100k players still on by the time they get to bill them. Pre-order's mean little in a mmorpg. the first month its live doesn't count since its the freebie, lets see how many stay after that. Also it may be 16k per server but the chance of more than half or even 1/4th of that being online at one time is slim at best. Maybe for the first day or 2.

  Jangocat

Apprentice Member

Joined: 8/29/09
Posts: 46

9/18/09 10:35:07 PM#17

NCsoft isn't stupid and this isn't their first rodeo. You can bet they already have more servers ready. You can always use another back up server so even if they didn't need to open new servers they would have use for the extra servers eventually.

  blueelf

Novice Member

Joined: 8/30/03
Posts: 221

huh?

9/18/09 10:37:25 PM#18

They are do fine... You will be able join your friends once they head start come up... sure you be able enter then

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  Swanea

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Joined: 4/25/08
Posts: 2113

9/18/09 10:40:02 PM#19
Originally posted by andorov

First of all, you have a typo. You  meant 400,000 not 4,000,000.

Secondly, while it may even be correct that 400,000 people will play, all of them will not play at the same time.

No company is stupid enough to set up an extra 20 servers just to accomodate the surge they get on week 1 (when everyone wants to play 24/7). After week 1, 16000 subs per server translates to about 5-10k concurrent users. 

So I think they've done their math right.

 

Uh, Mythic was....

  Kalay

Novice Member

Joined: 12/03/04
Posts: 149

9/18/09 10:49:35 PM#20

At least 10 more each coast sounds more reasonable.  I don't believe that have fully realized how many people are going to play Aion.

But one thing you have to remember.  With City of Heroes they still only have a small amount of servers.  12 or 14 if I remember right.  And alot, I mean alot of people have/had played that game.

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