Originally posted by Cablespider

Originally posted by SBarastl

Originally posted by Frostbite05

1/10

Honestly i happy its gone cause frankly it was useless. However, It has always been mad easy to stop the errors 99% of the time all you have to do is turn off virus protection and BAM it works perfectly. People really are not very smart.

 

I'd have to say 1/10 if you had to turn off ANY of your virus and/or firewall protections.  They are there for a reason, not to bring down each time you want to play your game ;)

 

 

Who games with AV running anyway? I have been gaming for a long time and have never run AV in the background while gaming. I have never been infected due to a game. No wonder people complain about frame rate issues, lag, horrible load times and whatnot. The real-time scanner is going nuts.

It isn't the game you need to be worried about -

Here's an example:  You are playing the game a decide to swap out and visit a site for information about the game.  You mistyped the site name and wound up on the wrong site.  Before you know it, you have the package downloaded on your machine and running...  All because you didn't have your protection in place.

While that example is extreme, it is still a possibility.   Most machines today are fast enough to run the real time scanners without impact to the games you play.

It is still wrong to have to remove ANY protections you have on your machine to play a game.  Why take any risks at all?

Just MHO

Many of the problems I heard about were things dealing with Keyboards and Keypads.  Things that had a LCD panel on them wouldn't work properly because gameguard were some of the posts.  There were some problems with those running Windows 7 RC1 (yes, I know, people did play with it) and gameguard playing Aion.  But I'm betting it was the hardware issues and then the fact when you did get an error, it said go to X, Y, Z place.  When you got there 1.) the error was so generic you might as well bought the software in the generic isle of the local supermarket, or 2.) You couldn't find any real answers.

Had a few friends I know having problems with the newer Logitech keypad.

Originally posted by Gestankfaust

Originally posted by Gkarr

In all the games I have ever played with GameGuard I haven't had a problem once. I actually think the hackers are behind most of the complaints about GameGuard. This way they get there way and GameGuard is removed allowing them to hack.

 

This

 

Or the fact that anyone who would have problems knows nothing about their computer...or computers at all

Even more likely is that NCSoft acknowledged the Ineffectualness of GG because the link on how to disable it was widely distributed on practically every Aion board in existence, including almost every GG thread on the official beta forums. Where before game companies could keep up appearances that GG was a proper anti-cheat program (even though most who wanted to, knew their way around it), it has now been proven that even the most computer illiterate person can disable it. As such it has probably completely lost its 'appeal', at least here in the western MMO market, until the company behind GG finds a way for it to not be disabled so easily.

I never had any issues with GameGuard. I'm even on 7 RC and didn't come across any problems. I'm glad it was removed for those that were having so many issues, though.

Never in all my years gaming had an issue with GameGuard.

Ive had it on xp and my vista 64 and never one issue.

One of the things i liked about GameGuard was the fact it blocked throttling programs, such as net limiter. 

Throttling is when you playing against someone  and they freeze in place and you cant hurt them then few sec later they are 20 feet away shooting at you.

Throttling programs lower the net connection to a crawl not enough to get dicoed but enough that you cant get the info that your getting hit.

Originally posted by biplex

GameGuard was killing my wifi dongle software, putting me offline whenever i was turning aion on, making it impossible to play.

I'm glad i can now play Aion woithout reverting to hacking GameGuard.

Yeah, I had a similar problem with my UPS monitoring software, since GG closes down a bunch of USB connections/software.

Ironically, I probably wouldn't have noticed if I hadn't updated the UPS software a week before starting the BETA. The UPS software now has an audible warning that the UPS is off-line. So I got to hear a lot of

"UPS Communication lost"

"UPS Communication Established"

when I started then exited the game.

Other than that, no problems.

All they really have to do is make the game so cheating isn't fun. Make the game actually reward people who accomplish genuine feats and make the gameplay more like a SP game and there you go.

A game called Tibia has a HUGE botter problem becuase the design of the game pretty much screams "BOT ME" becuase it used to have a very harsh death penalty and a massive grind. They fixed the death penalty and the amount of botters went  down significantly.  If you were level 150 and something stupid like lag or system problems would kill you you may loose several months of xp! This is why alot of people ended up botting so heavily, to get their stats back up. then it became a habit for them to bot it more and more.

If you design the game well people won't have to bot.

make it a game worth playing, make the quests exciting and different and not the same 3 errands like WoW has, make the armor and weapons truly unique and make the game have tons more skills to work on.

 I have only one question. Why did they licensed it? Was it a good offer? I cannot really understand. Slows your PC, blocks your irc programs, and it made the Aion EU beta impossible to play on Win7 32 bit.
Well on the other hand it was said, it protects the game from hacks and farm bots. Bulls*it! On chinese servers NC has much complication with them, however the GG iss the part of the game.

Goodness it will be forgotten...

Originally posted by Tisiphone

Omg Omg Omg! They like, listened, and did stuff despite everybody saying they weren't doing stuff.

Wait, is it April 1st?

Now I have to spend 4 hours removing all the GG remnants.

But I've done that before.

Go NCSoft!

lmao ... indeed it's time they came around and removed  GG... but in the END it will go back in, i bet !

anyways, they should of left it with out  GG as it is a NCsoft company  whateverish server thingys Right ?

as for HACKs well their are HACKs every where andin every game also places in-game to exploit and XP your ass off...

Forgive my Cursing...

long live ASMODIAN's

Chanter 4TW !

I am sooo glad to see GG go!

I had to turn completely off my Firewall/AV software, ZoneAlarm, to get GG to run so I could play.

NO games security software should require me to run unprotected on the net.

freaking noobs, its not gone, its just temporary disabled.

GameGuard definitely drove me crazy. So I'm voting for 3 points over the highest which is 10. :)

Originally posted by Scalebane

So when they put it back in like they say they are, how many will quit?

I will not start, because they are still clinging to GG unfortunately. They will install GameGuard on your PC when they see fit and you can do nothing to prevent it when you are subscribed. I don't want that again.

Good decision it was giving me problems.

i had troubles with gameguard before, i am glad NCsoft drop that piece of crap.

Originally posted by Cablespider

Originally posted by SBarastl

Originally posted by Frostbite05

1/10

Honestly i happy its gone cause frankly it was useless. However, It has always been mad easy to stop the errors 99% of the time all you have to do is turn off virus protection and BAM it works perfectly. People really are not very smart.

 

I'd have to say 1/10 if you had to turn off ANY of your virus and/or firewall protections.  They are there for a reason, not to bring down each time you want to play your game ;)

 

 

Who games with AV running anyway? I have been gaming for a long time and have never run AV in the background while gaming. I have never been infected due to a game. No wonder people complain about frame rate issues, lag, horrible load times and whatnot. The real-time scanner is going nuts.

those who have important data on their computer will run AV 24/7, those who have only porn or crap in their computer( for example you). wont be bother about av or firewall.

 Im now happier than a pig in sh*t. I couldn't log in more than once during beta due to Gameguard errors!

 yep gameguard techno arent uptodate they need to work on their sofware you dont sell software like that to gaming company

when the software aint polished enough to be on the market ,some other company use protection from other dev and we never have the issue gameguard have

i sure hope ncsoft boot that protection company and use another protection company

MikeB, with all due respect, they didn't drop GG for good.  Please read the original post.  Why are you reporting it like it's something that it is not.  It just isn't in at launch because they KNOW it will be the kiss of death for them as they try to launch next week.  GG will be back, it's not a matter of if, but when.

Yes, I'm thrilled it's gone, for now.

Saying that, when GG is put back in I have the feeling these forums are going to go SuperNova.

Originally posted by Shannia

MikeB, with all due respect, they didn't drop GG for good.  Please read the original post.  Why are you reporting it like it's something that it is not.  It just isn't in at launch because they KNOW it will be the kiss of death for them as they try to launch next week.  GG will be back, it's not a matter of if, but when.

Yes, I'm thrilled it's gone, for now.

Saying that, when GG is put back in I have the feeling these forums are going to go SuperNova.

 

Head over to aionsource. They stated they would only put GG back in-game IF they can get it to work correctly with the product. If they can't, you can bet they will look towards other options or find a in-house way to handle the cheating/hack issues. I can almost bet that GG will not be coming back.