Here is what everyone should do, its simple too.

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Posting excessive negative comments or baiting others to respond in a negative manner is considered trolling on the MMORPG.com forums.
For example: If there is one game that you did not enjoy, voicing your opinion is encouraged. Posting this opinion in every thread concerning that game to the point that it disrupts all other conversation is not tolerated.

Now I'm not telling anyone to do this against any one person in particular, we are all adults here and can make our own choices based off the information provided. If you feel there is someone here that is doing the above, then please, by all means, use the tool provided on these forums to your advantage.

... that thrives on false information (3.5 M subs)

Please direct me to the NCsoft announcement that falsely claims that they have 3.5M. Unless you have such a link, your claim that the 3.5M originates from NCsoft is pure libel.

... that WANTS to launch with an undermanned server parc just to create waiting times to log for its players and create hype of "adding servers".

If I wanted to generate positive hype about the game, I'd launch as many servers as WoW did at launch. Or at least, as many servers WAR or AoC had at launch. When they don't do that, the marketing hype suffers. What they're basically saying is that "We don't believe we'll be successful enough, so we'll hold back for now". That's the message they are sending and it's a negative hype one, not a positive. Even if they double the number of servers, will they reach the WAR and AoC numbers at launch. How can you possibly spin negative hype as something positive?

and WAS bragging about "record breaking players" .... that play FREE on the internet cafés....

Considering they achieved those numbers without hurting the already established L2 player base in those place, yes it was an achievement. As a point of reference, SOE didn't manage the same thing with EQ and EQ2. Besides, those players don't play for free, they use the exact same model WoW is using in the same country (and yes, WoW is more popular there).

I still don't see the point of this whole dispute. They have the number of pre-orders that they claimed. It's quite big for a game that basically only offers polish and all the features promised. I don't think they'll hold the no.2 place in 2010, but who cares? You perhaps, but I still don't see why you feel WoW is threatened by Aion, when their own developers don't feel confident enough to go 1vs1 with the giant. Which by the way, is some more negative hype about the game, something that AoC and WAR avoided during their launch.

Originally posted by Zorndorf

Let me get this straight: you are defending a company.

Im not you are, for some reason you feel the need to defend Blizzard agains NCSoft

otherwhise you wouldnt post all this bullshit

- that thrives on false information (3.5 M subs),

Same false info as wow has 11.6 million now? or can you provide an official linky for that, like the link to ncsoft that claim 3.5 million? ow you cant,see both nc and bliz let you all believe what people say, thats bussiness get over it

- that WANTS to launch with an undermanned server parc just to create waiting times to log for its players  and create hype of "adding servers".

Thats because its 2 factions based game, they balance servers unlike WAR

On the other hand though WoW is going to introduce x server instanceing because the servers are running rather empty because wow will never merge low servers, they rather have you pay for a transfer

- and WAS  bragging about "record breaking players" .... that play FREE on the internet cafés....

So what? if i remember correctly Blizzard called the dudes from guinness?

And then this made the world go around ....

 

Those above false figures and manipulations .... were the REASONS western players became interested....in a Korean copycat in the first place.

People got interested in that western copycat of yours to, They couldnt even come up with their own IP

NO WONDER everyone was surprised when they saw it  and said ; "... This is it ??? The "sum is bigger than its (very) small parts "... Already legendary sentences.

whats what?

So WHO exactly is giving everyone a favor here ?

I'm curious, is there a point to re-posting the OPs entire post? Especially when it's a large post?

It is pretty interesting to follow the amount of pre-orders and pre-purchases games tend to get these days. It might be just me, but I'd wager that buying games from various Internet services that allow you to download games directly to your computer are becoming more commonplace by the year and as such comparing previous releases to current ones seems rather simplistic. As a result of direct downloading the box sales for games are likely to dwindle whereas the number of pre-orders is probably a tad higher than in the past. As such, the release of Aion is most interesting thing for the MMO community (together with CO, of course) for they will work as a benchmark for a "Steam-driven" launch. In comparison, e.g. AoC was available from Steam first more than three months after release and the same holds true for WAR -- the big releases of last year.

I would guess that for Aion (and CO) this will mean that a greater number of certain buyers are already in that number of pre-orders while in the past there was a significant proportion of gamers who queued to game shops to get their game first. Now, if you want to be first with Aion you don't march to game shop but instead order the game from the Internet. Therefore it will be interesting to see what kind of first-day / first-month sales the game gets when launched in the old fashioned way.

Originally posted by Zorndorf

Read the OP.

Did you read it?

You claim WoW is #1 in this topic

Did wow launched this year?

Originally posted by Leucrotta

Originally posted by Zorndorf

Read the OP.

 

Did you read it?

 

You claim WoW is #1 in this topic

Did wow launched this year?

No he didn't :p

I know that the game has launched on other continents but as far as it goes it's still in beta for most of the rest of us. How can a beta be the number one MMO? Numbers don't make it number one. Numbers only mean that people are attracted by it's flashyness and have been suckered into buying it. It's not a bad game but I certainly wouldn't call it number one. It's nothing really new, it's not innovative, it's basically yet another WoW-clone except with much better graphics and an even worse community revolving around it...

Warhammer online is the number 1 selling MMO in the first month and we all know how that turned out. Sales numbers mean absolutly nothing when it comes to the game being good or not.

Originally posted by Zorndorf

@Kaocan.

The title of this post was "Aion is the number one MMO of 2009".

I am posting WITH references the attitude with which NCsoft and surroundings announce launches and info.

Actually, your "references" included a singular link: www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=sr_nr_n_4

I opened said link, and was taken to amazon's PC game list with a total of 18,532 results.  Its relevance to this topic is what?

In rereading my posts on the subject of THIS thread, I made very clear I stayed on topic in every INCH of my posts.

If staying on topic absolves you of trolling, then never a troll has existed.  According to this site's rule regarding trolls, you certainly fit that category.  You post "excessive negative comments" AND bait others to respond to your posts in a negative manner.  You do it all day, every day, in every thread you post to with your absurd statements about WoW.  You repeat your opinion on the subject so often, that frequent visitors to these forums know who you are, and avoid you.  I'd call that disruptive.  Your points aren't even relevant to the OP in the first place - you merely slander NCSoft without any proof (I CAN USE UNDERLINE TOO!).  You constantly even call people out by calling them "scared" or "afraid" of your false estimations and predictions.  Sounds like bait, to me.

and ... ON TOPIC.

Read the OP.

Telling someone on a thread to "Read the OP" means you're staying on topic?  Give me a break.  You hijacked the thread with your garbage as always, and when confronted with that fact, you ignored it.  Only when it was insinuated that people here report your posts do you even consider trying to check yourself.  Frankly, I'm surprised you haven't zipped back through your previous posts here to edit them one by one.  I guess you can't win this one with xfire statistics eh...

 Oh and... ON TOPIC.

Read the OP.

Actually, I'll add that I'm quite surprised with how high the pre-order number has gone.  With the failures we've seen recently (even with CO's little fiasco) I imagined players would be more careful.  Even with those warnings against pre-orders, the numbers are still high.  Very high, in fact, given what we've seen lately.

Edit to address your last post without another reply, Zorn.

What other game in 2009 has achieved higher pre-order sales?  Name one, with reference, before you call the OP's thread title incorrect.  It's not named "Aion is the most played game of 2009".  Its title is based on its contents, which you've conveniently ignored like everything else.

 Hello Zorndorf, so, many people were canceling pre-orders and still they are already on 400k =) isnt that cure

I think the cancelled ones and FTP give away keys are still included.

Wouldn't you ?

Originally posted by Wizardry

WOW is still number 1,it is still the ONLY game you can buy in my local stores,all other games have been removed ,except of course for console games .

Since we are talking numbers and i assume the OP is saying that numbers means the game is the best,then why are you all not out playing WOW?

Simple reason is because numbers mean diddly squat,i make decisions for myself and i hope everyone else has enough brains to make decisions for themselves as well,i assume they do?

TWO words to put into your little google bar,to show why you should NEVER believe in numbers >>>>AION KINA   >>>AION ACCOUNTS.The mere hype alone has made this game a huge target for RMT activity ,it will inflate/fabricate the numbers drastically.

Here is a simple tip for would be gamers.....Enjoy a game because it is good for YOU,the game has what YOU want from a game.When i see people posting things like numbers ,it tells me they are feeling insecure and trying to convince others they have made the right choice.If you are that insecure about the game,then i guess you have made the choice for all the wrong reasons and should be playing a different game.

Wizardry, you are a strange, strange individual. 

The fact of the matter is, games that sell a lot of copies means that a lot of people are interested in playing that game.  If it retains those people after the game goes live, then those people must be having fun with the game.  If A LOT of people are having fun with a game, then of course people will want to show off it's accomplishments, like pre-order and sub counts.  It doesn't make them insecure, it makes them excited.  It's the same reason music artist frame their gold and platinum records.  Its the same reason why athletic teams retire the numbers of celebrated athletes.  Its even the same reason why parents put their kid's drawings on the fridge.  They are proud and excited for the accomplishments.

/shrug

Screw the trolls, 400,000 is a good pre-order number for a MMORPG, especially one not trading off an established IP. Anyone who can't admit that is either a moron or has an agenda.

Pre selection today :D

 Zorndorf is just asking for a link to the official announcement of the 3.5M subs NCSoft was claiming. Haven't really seen him bash Aion. Is it really that hard to find an official link or were NCSoft blowing their own horn like they did with L2?

Originally posted by Raztor

 Zorndorf is just asking for a link to the official announcement of the 3.5M subs NCSoft was claiming. Haven't really seen him bash Aion. Is it really that hard to find an official link or were NCSoft blowing their own horn like they did with L2?

Zorndorf has first to provide an official announcement about 11.6M on wow, and believe me, he blows that horn many times.

 Far too much trolling in this thread.

/closed