I currently have 2 subs to Eve, but I've grown kind of bored with it. I've gone through similar 'blah' phases in the past 2 years of playing, but I have a feeling this one might stick. I've always wanted to play a Star Trek MMO, and I think that's one reason I've played Eve for so long (that, and the people in my corporation are a good group of guys). Eve is a great game, and I hope it continues to prosper.

That said, I'm more excited about STO than I have been about any game in a long time. I kept some tabs on it when Perpetual had the IP, but felt it was going vaporware. Then, recently, I learned that Cryptic had gotten the rights to the game and checked out the site again. I'm happy with the information we have so far (which, to be honest, isn't a whole lot), and I feel that STO will probably suit me better than Eve.

I still have subs for my 2 characters until May, though, so, if STO does disappoint, I still have New Eden. Even if STO is as awesome as I think it will be, I may just sell one of them to buy GTCs to keep the other sub active. The hardest part will be to decide who I sell and who I keep.

Originally posted by HittingSmoke

I played Eve for years and I also played STO at PAX so I think I'm qualified to answer this question...

 

I'd take STO over Eve any day. The only thing I liked about Eve was how visually attractive the game is. STO combat is also a lot more "hands on" feeling instead of the traditional "activate attack" RPG mechanic.

I'm curious, based on what you saw at PAX, what looks good and what could use improvement ?

I played Eve for several months.... And although the graphics were great, the main things I didn't like about it, were:

1. I couldn't directly control my ship.  Which means that for very large chunks of time, I was just sitting here staring at the screen while I flew through star system after star system, rather than actually playing.

2. There was nothing I could do to train my skills any faster or slower, other than just make sure I clicked to start training another skill each time I finished one.  So again, I didn't actually do any PLAYING to accomplish any of my skills.

3. All of the skill training eventually started to look like it was just going to stretch on into eternity. Which made me feel that no matter how diligently I clicked to keep my character training, I would simply never catch up to other players.

4. All of the major game systems like construction, trading, researching, ect, were so incredibly complicated that in order to really get much out of them, you were required to build and keep your own notes and spreadsheets and mini-databases.  I don't call that game depth, I call it over complication..

Basically all of that stuff added up to the most incredibly boring, sleep-inducing MMO game I've ever played.

So yeah... Bring on STO.  At the very least, I don't think they could be any worse than eve.

This game will have to be pretty bad not to be better than Eve.  I like some aspects of Eve, but it is the most boring game I have ever had the misfortune of subscribing to.  Gameplay is just a big snoozefest.  I have heard a lot of people say you don't play Eve, you watch it.  I think that pretty much sums it up.  For a more in-depth and totally accurate review, follow the link in my sig. ;)

Originally posted by ktanner3

Originally posted by HittingSmoke

I played Eve for years and I also played STO at PAX so I think I'm qualified to answer this question...

 

I'd take STO over Eve any day. The only thing I liked about Eve was how visually attractive the game is. STO combat is also a lot more "hands on" feeling instead of the traditional "activate attack" RPG mechanic.

 

I'm curious, based on what you saw at PAX, what looks good and what could use improvement ?

http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/352/view/forums/thread/254124/My-STO-review-from-PAX.html

The ground combat needed work, but from what I've read from the devs they're working on ground AI right now. I couldn't really think of a way to improve space combat other than maybe letting us do rolls and loops.

I think star trek online will beat out eve.  eve you can just mine star trek online you do mission and stuff.

Originally posted by HittingSmoke

Originally posted by ktanner3

Originally posted by HittingSmoke

I played Eve for years and I also played STO at PAX so I think I'm qualified to answer this question...

 

I'd take STO over Eve any day. The only thing I liked about Eve was how visually attractive the game is. STO combat is also a lot more "hands on" feeling instead of the traditional "activate attack" RPG mechanic.

 

I'm curious, based on what you saw at PAX, what looks good and what could use improvement ?

 

http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/352/view/forums/thread/254124/My-STO-review-from-PAX.html

 

The ground combat needed work, but from what I've read from the devs they're working on ground AI right now. I couldn't really think of a way to improve space combat other than maybe letting us do rolls and loops.

Wow, this is game is in no way dumbed down as some of the naysayers have claimed. Those controls for space are going to take some time getting used to. I'm glad the game is coming along so well and thanks for the info. :)

Until STO comes comes out, theres no way to say which is better.  Although, EVE-Online will most definetly have a much better economic system, as a huge part of EVE is dedicated to the economy, and STO has no real "money" to have nearly as big or complex economy.   Also STO is on a sharded server setup whereas EVE has one persistent universe, so those two catagorys as of now lean heavily in EVE-online's corner. as for PvP, PvE, gameplay graphics and emersion - we'll have to wait to get our hands of either beta or retail.

Originally posted by ktanner3

Wow, this is game is in no way dumbed down as some of the naysayers have claimed. Those controls for space are going to take some time getting used to. I'm glad the game is coming along so well and thanks for the info. :)

Yeah, the base combat mechanics are fantastic. There is really a lot to build off of. I just hope they have enough time to get it right.

If you want to see a gameplay vid of me playing, look here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCE8q6StGdQ&feature=player_profilepage#

Shamless plug alert!!!! :p

I hate the shard system but might be better for the missions for it to feel right.  EvE is aswesome but I get hella bored quick. 

 I really loved almost everything about EvE...except for the combat.

I like STO because it looks likes the combat is very SFC (Starfleet Command video game series).  That alone makes it all worth it for me and hope it does live up to SFC combat.

Originally posted by tamgros

Originally posted by ktanner3

Wow, this is game is in no way dumbed down as some of the naysayers have claimed. Those controls for space are going to take some time getting used to. I'm glad the game is coming along so well and thanks for the info. :)

Yeah, the base combat mechanics are fantastic. There is really a lot to build off of. I just hope they have enough time to get it right.

 

If you want to see a gameplay vid of me playing, look here:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCE8q6StGdQ&feature=player_profilepage#

 

Shamless plug alert!!!! :p

 

I played eve for a good 6 months a while back.... well more like 2 years back, and this combat shown in the video looks a lot more interesting to me. I much prefer the actions the players has to do to try and get positioning while trying to keep defenses up. I think this would make pvp a lot more exciting for me, because it seems like a bit more of the players skill can show through.

In eve all the fights for me came down to a set system in a fight. in a 1 v 1 battle i would just have to taget my oponent, press orbit, and then press 123456, and wait for the battle to end. STO seems like it will be able to keep me on my toes.

Apples to oranges if you ask me. Sure there are going to be somethings that are similar, both games are good, and take place in space.

EVE is a lot more hardcore then STO and I just want a game thats fun to play and easy to get into.

And the fact thats is startrek is just a bonus.

I'm sure im not the only one who thinks about it in that way.

Star trek online is going to be way better then Eve online. Star trek will have space combat, Ground combat. and I hope later ship interier.