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General Discussion  » Quests are nothing more than XP cheat codes

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  User Deleted
9/17/09 10:17:25 AM#21
Originally posted by Mrbluray

Most "questers" don't bother reading the quests and couldn't care less about the lore or storyline. For them, quests are nothing more than XP cheat codes because they are too lazy to grind.

I think NCSoft should implement a multiple choice quiz at the end of every quest in order for players to get quest rewards. It would also be good if quest text was non-skippable in order to force players to use quests as they are intended by the developers.

 

Here one for you OP..Make everyone the same level..No quests..Just level your skills..But in again you be crying because some one is better than you and they Bot/Macro all night just to be urber..What will be your next excuse?

  Kyleran

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9/17/09 10:18:14 AM#22
Originally posted by mmaize
Originally posted by Valentina
Originally posted by Mrbluray

Maybe what they should do is nerf the XP rewards for quests by 75% or remove the XP reward altogether, leaving the quests in their most pure form.  Just a small kinah reward and maybe an item or title reward.

 

 


Gross. I think I along with thousands of other people would just cancel right there. lol.... I think what they (and developers of every other MMO out there need to do) is write quests and design quests that are  really really interesting. That's the only thing that really stops me from reading alot of quests, especially if I've read them before.


That would change absolutely nothing.  Plenty of the quests are interesting but the issue is that everyone likes something different when it comes to what people think is a good story line, just like people enjoy different genres of the books they read or movies they watch.  You could design the best fantasy story line ever made and some non-fiction person could look at it and be like...that was stupid.

But the real issue isn't that the quests are uninteresting, it's that people simply 'some' don't care about them and are after the experience.

 

Had to fix that for you.  I think there's a sizable group that enjoys reading the quests, I know I do at least the first alt through, and if they aren't the typical "fetch 5 frog leg" quests.

Questing allows a player to gain experience doing activities other than killing npc monsters.  Nothing wrong if folks want to do shuttle, escort, crafting etc quests in addition to constantly killing stuff, have to grind somehow.

 

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  mbd1968

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9/17/09 10:22:21 AM#23

When I help people in RL, it's not out of the kindness of my heart, it's so they'll stop bugging me... I don't give a crap about their heartache story... why should I care about the NPCs issues, just gimme the money and XP and stfu... if they weren't so damn lazy or inept they'd do it themselves wouldn't they. Plus, I'm a hero... their problems are inconsequential...

  Mrbluray

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9/17/09 10:37:53 AM#24
Originally posted by hoopty
Originally posted by Mrbluray

Most "questers" don't bother reading the quests and couldn't care less about the lore or storyline. For them, quests are nothing more than XP cheat codes because they are too lazy to grind.

I think NCSoft should implement a multiple choice quiz at the end of every quest in order for players to get quest rewards. It would also be good if quest text was non-skippable in order to force players to use quests as they are intended by the developers.

 

Here one for you OP..Make everyone the same level..No quests..Just level your skills..But in again you be crying because some one is better than you and they Bot/Macro all night just to be urber..What will be your next excuse?

I have no problems with this.  Nor do I have any problem with the use of macros or bots.

Ultima Online was one of the greatest PvP MMORPGs ever and it uses this type of system.

  stayontarget

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9/17/09 10:47:25 AM#25

Meh call me crazy but I like to do both.  I do read quest because some can be quite funny and then there are others that have a good story.  But you are right in that aion has it share of canned quest but I read them anyway and try to do them all because I can't stand to open my quest log and see old quest in it that I have not finished.

Most people that tend to not read quest are the one's that are in a race to max lvl, and feel they can't spare the time or effort to read.

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  User Deleted
9/17/09 12:05:54 PM#26
Originally posted by Mrbluray

Most "questers" don't bother reading the quests and couldn't care less about the lore or storyline. For them, quests are nothing more than XP cheat codes because they are too lazy to grind.

I think NCSoft should implement a multiple choice quiz at the end of every quest in order for players to get quest rewards. It would also be good if quest text was non-skippable in order to force players to use quests as they are intended by the developers.

 

'Questers' are what we call in the MMORPG world, people who play the game.  We know you hate quests:

www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/3091675#3091675

"In OB, by level 11 I stopped doing quests other than campaign quests, quests with title rewards that I wanted, repeatable coin quests and work orders because quests cause you to level too fast.

So basically I havent done a "sidequest" since level 11 and I made it to level 24 on about 90% grinding alone.

If anything, there are too many quests."

 

I'm not sure why you consider this a matter of concern to you personally because you don't seem to like questing all that much.

Oh wait, I see.  You want to punish people who don't play the game like you do. 

 

Well then, I'd just like to say that killing MOBS should give no XP at all, because it encourages people to bot-grind and not play the game.  If you could only level by questing and some of those quests were group quests it would force people to group and stay closer to the original spirit of MMORPG's.

 

This would solve the bot problem for leveling.  NcSoft has implemented their new anti-bot gathering strategy as well.  You will get 'ore poisoning' once in a while from gathering and if you don't type in a series of random characters presented to you within a given time, you can't gather ore for an hour.  I'm sure they'll do this with other rare or valuable materials (thinking Aether)

 

No XP for mobs and random checks for gatherers = no more bots.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  BettysAlt

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9/17/09 12:20:56 PM#27
Originally posted by Mrbluray

Most "questers" don't bother reading the quests and couldn't care less about the lore or storyline. For them, quests are nothing more than XP cheat codes because they are too lazy to grind.

I think NCSoft should implement a multiple choice quiz at the end of every quest in order for players to get quest rewards. It would also be good if quest text was non-skippable in order to force players to use quests as they are intended by the developers.


 

I have to say, I'm guilty of the "don't bother" crowd.

C'mon all you "blow through the levels to get to the enders", lets come out of the closet!

  User Deleted
9/17/09 12:32:43 PM#28

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  User Deleted
9/17/09 12:34:27 PM#29
Originally posted by bani789

Hah XP cheat codes don't think I've ever seen them refered to as such. But I'd rather have a quest to kill 10 mobs, turn it in and get exp equalling to killing 20 mobs total, than killing 20 mobs total. If done right it's usually faster too and less boring and annoying.

 

Unless you're botting.

 

  Morgaren

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9/17/09 12:36:04 PM#30

I'll read the quest once, maybe twice but the third toon I make, I'm not reading that stuff, and if a game forced me too i probably wouldn't play it.

 

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