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  taurak

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Joined: 10/01/04
Posts: 64

 
9/16/09 3:03:32 PM#1

In your oppinion what would fix World of Warcraft, make it one of the most enjoyable games ever?

 

For me.

1. Removal of the queue, and the weekly reset.

What I am saying here is, the majority of your time in this game at max level is spent waiting for a queue for a BG, or waiting for your weekly dungeons to reset so you can clear it again. Blizzard's only mechanism to stop the mass farming of instances is to place a reset timer on EVERY instance that has any good item.

This needs to change, either by adding way more instances and raids, or by adding open world things to do. The majority of my time at max level in WoW was spent standing in Dalaran, waiting in a queue, waiting for my guild mates to come online to clear Ulduar, Naxx or whatever. There was nothing, absolutely nothing fun to do as a person that likes to progress their character.

2. Some PvP Focus.

How many raid dungeons are in WoW? And How many Battlegrounds? Yeah my point exactly.

Blizzard has had 5 years to get PvP in WoW up to par. They could have created a good PvP system by now, but they do not touch it. Instead of addressing the class balance and trying to make things in arena fair, they just do away with the 2 vs 2 bracket as far as getting items. Well GG, you just screwed a lot of people. Rock Paper Scissors, that doesn't work in 2 vs 2, 1 vs 1, 3 vs 3, it doesn't matter how you stack it, it DOES NOT WORK.

You would honestly be better off to just give away the arena items for honor points. Just let everyone have the good pvp items so that you can create some fun AND BALANCED pvp. 1 shotting noobs with your godly axe is NOT PvP, its just ripping noobs.

Just make tons of PvP achievements and give people cool titles from those i guess. I don't know the answers, but something has got to be better than the current system. Sure anyone could get awesoem PvP items given they spend the massive ammount of time required to gain that much honor, but hey isn't that what getting items is about? Spending lots of time to get your items? Nobody has to be in the top 5% of raiders to get epics, so PvP shouldn't either.

PvP is balanced based on everyone having top items, therefore anyone that doesn't have them is not balanced. Fix it.

 

These are just my thoughts, lets hear yours.

  mmaize

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Joined: 7/23/09
Posts: 218

9/16/09 3:11:06 PM#2

Redesign and a new Engine? lol

Seriously though, they would have to have a graphics overhaul and more importantly a new approach to the game especially around the combat model, gear, and raiding.

  User Deleted
9/16/09 3:47:49 PM#3
Originally posted by taurak

In your oppinion what would fix World of Warcraft, make it one of the most enjoyable games ever?

 

I'm not really a WOW fan but, honestly, this seems like a silly question to ask about one of the most popular and least broken MMOs on the market.

  mmaize

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Joined: 7/23/09
Posts: 218

9/16/09 3:52:13 PM#4
Originally posted by LynxJSA
Originally posted by taurak

In your oppinion what would fix World of Warcraft, make it one of the most enjoyable games ever?

 

I'm not really a WOW fan but, honestly, this seems like a silly question to ask about one of the most popular and least broken MMOs on the market.

 

That is extremely subjective.

  Gdemami

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9/16/09 3:55:15 PM#5


Originally posted by LynxJSA
I'm not really a WOW fan but, honestly, this seems like a silly question to ask about one of the most popular and least broken MMOs on the market.

Um...so less subscribers the game gets more broken it is? ;-)

  Furor

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Joined: 7/15/07
Posts: 383

9/16/09 4:00:09 PM#6

So you suck at arena and you wanted the arena gears for hnor points? Get some pvp skills IDIOT. Bg is all about zergs theres no skill involved here. GET REAL.

  Varny

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Joined: 8/14/09
Posts: 786

9/16/09 4:01:56 PM#7

Remove Battlegrounds

Let you capture contested territory

Add more character customization so you don't feel like a clone

  Daffid011

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Joined: 1/03/04
Posts: 7652

9/16/09 4:56:00 PM#8

Wow may not have the most ideal pvp system for every dedicated pvp players dream but it is one of the best pvp systems on the market.  It has more options than most games, including some of the pvp ones.  It also balances very well for a pve game and is very well designed. 

Saying the game needs to be fixed is a bit of a stretch though.  More pvp players chose to play on wow pvp servers than any single pvp mmo right now. 

 

I would like to see some incentives put on the pvp daily quest areas and more open world objectives that are designed for pvp.  They concept of them was great, but the execution wasn't so good.  Wintergrasp was a step in the right directionas was the new battlegrounds.

 

  mmaize

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Joined: 7/23/09
Posts: 218

9/16/09 4:59:06 PM#9
Originally posted by Daffid011

Wow may not have the most ideal pvp system for every dedicated pvp players dream but it is one of the best pvp systems on the market.  It has more options than most games, including some of the pvp ones.  It also balances very well for a pve game and is very well designed. 

 

Buzzzzzz!  Fail. Get nuts and try again. 

Um no in fact some older games come to mind like...oh...i dunno....DAoC maybe?

  Stzza

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Joined: 3/03/09
Posts: 14

9/16/09 5:02:44 PM#10

They fixed what wasnt broken and made it suck, sooooo a new game

Playing : Aion, MO

Played : EVE, GW, SB, DF, AoC, WoW, WaR, L1, L2

Loved: DAoC, EVE, SB, old WoW, L2

  taurak

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Joined: 10/01/04
Posts: 64

 
9/16/09 5:08:20 PM#11
Originally posted by Furor

So you suck at arena and you wanted the arena gears for hnor points? Get some pvp skills IDIOT. Bg is all about zergs theres no skill involved here. GET REAL.


 

Are you serious?

I was fortunate enough to have a well geared ret paladin for arena, how well do you think I did? And no I didn't roll a ret paladin just because I knew they were strong, I played the same BE paladin since 1 week after the release of BC, was ret even when ret was not wanted anywhere.

I simply think it would be much better to give a LOT more players PvP armor and weapons, you know like raid armor and weapons are everywhere, and then have some real pvp going down.

Any goon can ride the wave to full epics in ulduar + raids after watchign the 1000's of google videos on boss fights, so why not pvp armor too?

P.S. if you really are Furor, I really enjoyed training the crap out of your guild in EQ.

  zimzim

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Posts: 55

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9/16/09 5:17:06 PM#12

 One way to Fix wow, Uninstal it, and wait for "WoW2" to come out, whit uppdatet graphix, Char creation from Aion.

Bether crafting and gathering, come one, A master Armor smith should be able to make the best armor in game, Not get it from a Random mob in a raid. 

Player housing, (instead of a bank). Mounts from lvl 1, (ala RoM) way wayt intil lvl 40, or is it 30 now?. 

The drop rate of Quest items,, (raptor heads in Barens)... (come on, way wont 1 raptor drop 1 head?????)

O and, let players be able to play Nutral in Pve. (open upp for Cros faktions Guilds on Pve/RP servers)

 

Give me 2-3 of this fixes and il come back in a second. (Grafix be a must)

I WANT A SCI-FI MMO!! (NOT EVE, or Fom, or FE)

  hybridfury

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Joined: 8/22/07
Posts: 142

9/16/09 5:18:35 PM#13

Not looking like a cartoon would be a start.

Currently Playing: Toying around with AoC and bored with Darkfall

Thinking of Playing: Fallen Earth or Darkfall after this months update.

Have Played: EQ1, EQ2, WoW, WAR, Vanguard, EvE, Requiem, PW, Lotro, Lineage2, AoC, SWG...

  Convict70

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Joined: 1/15/06
Posts: 3

9/16/09 5:20:27 PM#14

Yes...Yes...I understand its not polite to answer a question with a question but.....Its broke??

  drbaltazar

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Joined: 3/28/07
Posts: 7108

9/16/09 5:29:18 PM#15
Originally posted by hybridfury

Not looking like a cartoon would be a start.

honestly its what brot me in gaming,wow look

it made me rethink of all those week-end i would check the cartoon,and when wow showed  i could actually play a cartoon(beur)

i was hopping for silly stun a la road runner or thew coyote bad luck we were close when there was a chance of bad stuff happening in engineering but ,i guess they booted that too

so the cartoon sillyness  a la simpson etc that wished so much ended up being a wet noodle 

men cartoon are menr to be funy silly 

where is the funy silly in wow cartoon ?

 

  mmaize

Apprentice Member

Joined: 7/23/09
Posts: 218

9/16/09 5:32:03 PM#16
Originally posted by drbaltazar
Originally posted by hybridfury

Not looking like a cartoon would be a start.

honestly its what brot me in gaming,wow look

it made me rethink of all those week-end i would check the cartoon,and when wow showed  i could actually play a cartoon(beur)

i was hopping for silly stun a la road runner or thew coyote bad luck we were close when there was a chance of bad stuff happening in engineering but ,i guess they booted that too

so the cartoon sillyness  a la simpson etc that wished so much ended up being a wet noodle 

men cartoon are menr to be funy silly 

where is the funy silly in wow cartoon ?

 

Plenty of those around.  Try club penguin. ;)  I know, I'm so bad.

  Maligar

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Joined: 6/01/04
Posts: 83

9/16/09 5:32:12 PM#17

Remove the need to visit one dungeon/raid an ungodly amount of times for 1-2 pieces of gear.

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  jusomdude

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Joined: 11/21/06
Posts: 1486

9/16/09 5:40:09 PM#18

I think it might be too late to fix the PvP in the game, but I would say make all specs viable.

  Geschaefer

Apprentice Member

Joined: 9/14/09
Posts: 74

9/16/09 5:42:46 PM#19

 More hard core pvp would help WOW.

Also.. you all may not like this; but they should have a standard 10% xp loss upon death like in eq1.. It would make for better players..

G.E.Schaefer
Played: EQ1; EQ2: FFXI; SWG; Aion; WAR; LOTRO; Hellgate London: Diablo II; STO; WOW; Vanguard; Guild Wars. Rift.

  User Deleted
9/19/09 8:51:11 AM#20

I think the game is beyond repair but...

GENERAL:

- simplify talent trees;

- remove half of the abilities of all classes to stop with the cooldowns carpal tunnel combat has become;

- exp loss penalty/recovery indentical to everquest1;

- 280% mount cost halved

PVE:

- put a keying/attuning for raids trough group-quests;

- introduce a coding taking into account which classes enter an instance so that loot-drops are more coherent ; an majorly plate group (common with many paladin/dk running around + the odd warrior) only seeing cloth during an instance is infuriating;

- slow down 70-80 lvling;

- remove 10-man raids;

- remove item-damage completely;

- buff up warriors in single-target taunt, and dps;

PVP:

- remove 3vs3 and 2vs2 completely from the game;

- nerf paladins and deathknights;

- remove the resilience stat, and make everyone have 0% crit against other controlled players;

 

- nerf high burst dps (means nerf melees classes' burst)

- all stuns of all classes duration reduced to 1 second,

 

  drbaltazar

Elite Member

Joined: 3/28/07
Posts: 7108

9/19/09 8:59:29 AM#21

 nha its not that complicated 

wow just need to have a veteran server 

like no compass 

no coordinate 

no add-on

no map 

no spoon feeding basicly 

thats what wow miss a vereran server 

i probably forget some info but you guys get the idea if you played everquest

yes wow way is good but one your finished ,it doesnt cut it 

they should still have implemented one server for veteran

and only avail if you went to we ll say ulduar and finished it 

why! keep the noob out ,im sorry but most veteran are fairly happy with wow 

only those small thing i mention would add a bit of fun and remove the junk speach of world chat 

or at least diminish it

hell i wish all game had veteran server

  Daffid011

Old School

Joined: 1/03/04
Posts: 7652

9/19/09 10:42:16 AM#22
Originally posted by mmaize
Originally posted by Daffid011

Wow may not have the most ideal pvp system for every dedicated pvp players dream but it is one of the best pvp systems on the market.  It has more options than most games, including some of the pvp ones.  It also balances very well for a pve game and is very well designed. 

 

Buzzzzzz!  Fail. Get nuts and try again. 

Um no in fact some older games come to mind like...oh...i dunno....DAoC maybe?

 

Daoc has good pvp also and is the one game I had in mind when I made the comment that wow has SOME of the best pvp on the market.  I didn't say THE best.  As far as pvp goes, wow pvp is very well done and it does offer a great deal of variety of activities.  Combine that with some of the best pve elements in mmos and that makes it a clear winner.

Lets face it, wow is pve game first and it attracts more people with its pvp than the so called pvp games. 

 

Daoc is still a mythic game and I've been through their idea of how to balance a game twice now.  Their games could be a lot better than what they are.  Truthfully I didn't find either of them that great, because mythic doesn't seem to know what they are doing and screw up more than they get right. 


 

 

 

 

  Shannia

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Joined: 11/06/05
Posts: 2083

"World of WarCraft is held alive solely by the mediocrity of competing products." RendRegen

9/19/09 10:49:45 AM#23
Originally posted by Daffid011

Wow may not have the most ideal pvp system for every dedicated pvp players dream but it is one of the best pvp systems on the market.  It has more options than most games, including some of the pvp ones.  It also balances very well for a pve game and is very well designed. 

Saying the game needs to be fixed is a bit of a stretch though.  More pvp players chose to play on wow pvp servers than any single pvp mmo right now. 

 

I would like to see some incentives put on the pvp daily quest areas and more open world objectives that are designed for pvp.  They concept of them was great, but the execution wasn't so good.  Wintergrasp was a step in the right directionas was the new battlegrounds.

 


 

Agreed.  I would add one statement.  More PvP players chose to play on WoW pvp servers than all other paid PvP MMOGs on the market combined right now.  If the game was as crappy as in PvP as the OP eludes to, then why do so many play WoW pvp compared to the pure PvP games?

 

Fear not fanbois, we are not trolls, let's take off your tin foil hat and learn what VAPORWARE is:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaporware

"Vaporware is a term used to describe a software or hardware product that is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge after having well exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar product."

  nariusseldon

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Joined: 12/21/07
Posts: 4516

9/21/09 7:09:21 PM#24
Originally posted by Geschaefer

 More hard core pvp would help WOW.

Also.. you all may not like this; but they should have a standard 10% xp loss upon death like in eq1.. It would make for better players..

 

Nah .. add a xp death penalty and you will have very few people to play with.

  nariusseldon

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Joined: 12/21/07
Posts: 4516

9/21/09 7:11:31 PM#25
Originally posted by drbaltazar

 nha its not that complicated 

wow just need to have a veteran server 

like no compass 

no coordinate 

no add-on

no map 

no spoon feeding basicly 

thats what wow miss a vereran server 

i probably forget some info but you guys get the idea if you played everquest

yes wow way is good but one your finished ,it doesnt cut it 

they should still have implemented one server for veteran

and only avail if you went to we ll say ulduar and finished it 

why! keep the noob out ,im sorry but most veteran are fairly happy with wow 

only those small thing i mention would add a bit of fun and remove the junk speach of world chat 

or at least diminish it

hell i wish all game had veteran server

 

Nah, waste a totally good server on the 10 people who would want to use it?

ti is a pain  to play without addons. If you don't like them, don't use them. No point in forcing others not to.

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