You may notice the groin slot item there, thats right in darken caves you can take part in "Glow in the dark condom cock fighting'(tm)

Or if thats just a little bit to Village people for you, try stuffing a praire chicken onto that slot, and stand around in the bank all day, with both hands on your hips, striking Heroic pose's, always a winner with the ladies, all 7 of them and horses , you will meet lots of horses in banks, its where they go to pick up.

Want something even more Macho, ok well there is always the 20 guage cod piece with pop up barrel, a must have finishng move in pvp, because nothing says 'I own you" than running up behind someone and have something spring up out of your pants and going off.

None of the above is real, apart from the horses bit, the slutty buggers.....Thread was just getting way to serious for a game. Go read a book for a week, come back and enjoy a game, any game, pick one,(oh but you cant can you your now uber cynical about everything) if not rack off again and read another book or something, anything the world is full of things you might actually enjoy.

Originally posted by Mrbloodworth

Originally posted by MMO_Doubter

Originally posted by mbd1968

This simple question just negates everything you've written in this thread, you've obviously done zero research about the game. go

here

and read.

  

Actually I was making a point.

BTW, you could have answered with a single word, so you're not really in a good position to criticize my posts.

Here's the progression:

If you can make clothing, can you make boots?

If boots are in the game, why can't you wade through water, regardless of how contaminated it is?

By no means is this issue a deal-breaker for me, but it does hurt immersion. I think you will see a lot of comments on this issue after release.

 

 

No you wont, because there is only like, what, 4 bodies of water in 100's of square KM of play area.

 

It's beyond a non issue. To the point of absurd that you even tout it as a flaw of some sort.

 

Hey, Mr.Bloodworth, seems like we have a similar taste... FE is my next P2P MMO since Lotro... still subscribing to latter, but not sure, how long.... depends on how FE will do in 3-4 months time. Signs are very good though!
 

See you ingame (maybe) :)

DB

Originally posted by MMO_Doubter

Originally posted by mbd1968

This simple question just negates everything you've written in this thread, you've obviously done zero research about the game. go

here

and read.

  

Actually I was making a point.

BTW, you could have answered with a single word, so you're not really in a good position to criticize my posts.

Here's the progression:

If you can make clothing, can you make boots?

If boots are in the game, why can't you wade through water, regardless of how contaminated it is?

By no means is this issue a deal-breaker for me, but it does hurt immersion. I think you will see a lot of comments on this issue after release.

you will not see alot of comments on that issue because like me it was never thought about until others pointed out.  I knew you couldn't wade through water and didn't care as i saw no need to go in radiated water to kill myself until i get my DNA cloning problem taken care of.  Most people will not think twice about it as you hardly come accross water anyways

Originally posted by twhint

Wading through the bad grammar and spelling to respond to this. First off, I'm gonna start off by saying you need to complete high school. It's quite apparent you haven't yet.

Not everyone has english as first language so this is just silly to bring up just because he offended your new pet game.

FE is severely flawed in many ways, most so due to bugs.

The game itself is "ok" enough and will enjoy me for a short time. Its not however a game i invest much energy in.

I really wanted to like FE but so many game design flaws make the game boring, where is the fun I ask?

If they would have shot for Mad Max style MMO it would have been great - Auto Assault came close but again stupid game mechanics.

Car Wars board game would be perfect starting point in my opinion for good and working ruleset on how to build vehicles and solve battles.

Most of the failed games seem to strive to make totally new game ruleset and at least avid roleplayers know that making working systems is very very hard and sometimes a perfect execution can still fail (D&D 3rd edition).

First off, English is his first language, so trying to use that as a defense is simply ignorance on your part. Besides, that part of the conversation is over and done with.

As far as the OP's comments about 'customization', he's directly contradictory to what he 'wants'. He wants to be able to be protected by heavy armor, yet be able to turn off the graphics of the armor so he can see how cool his character looks without it. This is directly contradictory to his statement about wanting a 'world' and not a 'game'. Then, of course, are the other statements in his post about wanting several other conveniences. And I refuted his arguments where he was simply incorrect in his assumptions or if the actual problem had been fixed since Beta, which is when he played. He's trying to critique a game that is released by using the Beta as his milestone.

As far as the actual customization options, there aren't really any. Yes, you can dye clothing, but only what the devs allow though premade recipes. You can't take that brown duster and add yellow highlights or the black chaps and cut the ass out of it. You're stuck with basic recipes that don't allow a high degree of customization. I think this is a shame and I would like to see this change in the future. I, like many others, like the idea of looking different than everyone else. Also is the fact that there is no variance among equipment. Everything will have the same stats regardless of who made it or what vendor you bought it off of.  There's no real item decay either. That bothers me on the long term viability of the economy.

With the hair style, what is meant there is that you choose your hair in the beginning. Let's say you choose a pony tail. When you're playing, you have the option of 'letting your hair down', then having it combed, then put back into your pony tail.

The game does grab you off the start, but a lot of new games do that, whether it's flashy graphics, cool gameplay, or simply naked chicks. The question is will it still grab you in a month from now. We'll simply just have to see what the devs do in the future and with their plan of updating the game and such. If you doubt the game and it's plan, then don't buy it. There is more than enough information about the game that you should be able to make an informed decision. And if you still have questions, then feel free to ask.

Originally posted by Robdc84

 this game rocks, people have there pick of games now days, but this game is more polished then WAR or WoW was at launch.

That is nonsense.  This game is a turd compared to either of those... Neither had significant performance issues or bugs at launch.  FE manages to both look and run like shit somehow, and I have top end machine.  I was pretty excited about this game, until I played it.  In terms of performance, even Vanguard launched in better shape than this.  This is certainly an indie game, and it manages to look several years old while still chugging along at a terrible framerate.  I'm sure some people are going to find things to like about it, but you are just spewing lies to say that any of the AAA games to come out in the last few years was in worse shape than this.  That is simply untrue.

Originally posted by Salvatoris

Originally posted by Robdc84

 this game rocks, people have there pick of games now days, but this game is more polished then WAR or WoW was at launch.

 

That is nonsense.  This game is a turd compared to either of those... Neither had significant performance issues or bugs at launch.  FE manages to both look and run like shit somehow, and I have top end machine.  I was pretty excited about this game, until I played it.  In terms of performance, even Vanguard launched in better shape than this.  This is certainly an indie game, and it manages to look several years old while still chugging along at a terrible framerate.  I'm sure some people are going to find things to like about it, but you are just spewing lies to say that any of the AAA games to come out in the last few years was in worse shape than this.  That is simply untrue.

You're either ignorant or a liar. Anyone who has played those games at launch will know that. I'm not sure what you're basing your facts off of, but my experience has been close to pristine compared to those other games. I've been able to login. I've crashed very few times. I haven't experienced much lag at all. Some people have complained about lag or crashing when entering into highly populated areas, but they were able to log right back into the game, unlike the ones you mentioned where you had queues for WoW that ensured you waited several hours to get into the game. Warhammer, as I remember, was much the same way. And vanguard, well.....let's just say that it's a very special game....and I mean special in the same way that people refer to you when they say you're special.

Originally posted by twhint

First off, English is his first language, so trying to use that as a defense is simply ignorance on your part. Besides, that part of the conversation is over and done with.

There is no need to call me names. Not all people have a grammar and spelling manual shoved up their behinds.

Best regards

-ikkeno

Originally posted by ikkeno

Originally posted by twhint

First off, English is his first language, so trying to use that as a defense is simply ignorance on your part. Besides, that part of the conversation is over and done with.

 

 

There is no need to call me names. Not all people have a grammar and spelling manual shoved up their behinds.

 

Best regards

-ikkeno

 

 

 

Never called you any names and trying to look clever drudging up other people's work simply short thrifts yourself. If you're going to argue in another language, at least make sure you can do so credibly. Ignorance is simply 'not knowing'. I /know/ English is his first language, based on his profile as well as his writing style. You were trying to argue that English wasn't his first language. /That/ is ignorance on your part. There's nothing negative about ignorance as long as you don't wallow in it.

Originally posted by DonnieBrasco

 

Hey, Mr.Bloodworth, seems like we have a similar taste... FE is my next P2P MMO since Lotro... still subscribing to latter, but not sure, how long.... depends on how FE will do in 3-4 months time. Signs are very good though!
 

See you ingame (maybe) :)

DB

I am in the same boat. I really enjoy FE, and LOTRO is of course extremely impressive to me for many reasons. However, my girlfriend is still loving LOTRO more than FE, manly because she still loves the "mid evil" feel of the game, and unlike me, she hasn't been playing them for over ten years now. So, in just about every way FE is a breath of fresh air, setting, combat, crafting, stabbing with bullets, story lines and content.

Originally posted by Mrbloodworth

Originally posted by DonnieBrasco

 

Hey, Mr.Bloodworth, seems like we have a similar taste... FE is my next P2P MMO since Lotro... still subscribing to latter, but not sure, how long.... depends on how FE will do in 3-4 months time. Signs are very good though!
 

See you ingame (maybe) :)

DB

I am in the same boat. I really enjoy FE, and LOTRO is of course extremely impressive to me for many reasons. However, my girlfriend is still loving LOTRO more than FE, manly because she still loves the "mid evil" feel of the game, and unlike me, she hasn't been playing them for over ten years now. So, in just about every way FE is a breath of fresh air, setting, combat, crafting, stabbing with bullets, story lines and content.

 

 

The change from orcs and elves to mutants/rebels and the whole wasteland/survival theme itself was enough to catch my attention a long time ago, while some other aspects (crafting, hybrid development, freeform characters) also helped to convince myself.... I'm sure to give this a deeper try.
 

Looks like, luckily, there are a lot of folks with a similar mindset - it's reassuring too.

DB

Originally posted by Salvatoris

 

That is nonsense.  This game is a turd compared to either of those... Neither had significant performance issues or bugs at launch.  FE manages to both look and run like shit somehow, and I have top end machine.  I was pretty excited about this game, until I played it.  In terms of performance, even Vanguard launched in better shape than this.  This is certainly an indie game, and it manages to look several years old while still chugging along at a terrible framerate.  I'm sure some people are going to find things to like about it, but you are just spewing lies to say that any of the AAA games to come out in the last few years was in worse shape than this.  That is simply untrue.

give me your specs and i will say if you have a top end machine, most who think that really do not know anything about computer technologies.  You say wow & war had no significant performance issues at launch? well you must have not been there for either one because WoW servers were offline for days because of stability issues so much so that we were given extra free days because of it, when the servers were up alot of quests were broken, mobs that were invincable roamed the world etc, etc.  War on the other hand faired well, servers were pretty stable, bugs as usual with the code it's problem was it did not deliver on what was promised.  Vanguard also was completely horrible server wise, i remember crossing chunks and getting CTD or just dropping through the world, i once feel inbetween a chunk and appear on another island.  Maybe the saying is true dig a hole deep enough you can get to china.

You say AAA titles never have these issues are untrue well you just are plain wrong i completely pointed out why above those i experienced myself and not hear say.  FE on the other hand i have not experiencde many crashes, i've experienced bugz and reported them, 2 thirds of the ones i've reported in the last 2 weeks are already confirmed fixed.  FE has issues yes but the devs are up front and honest and keep the players informed unlike the big budget AAA titles that just take your money and run.  Performance wise can be improved especially in cities but since i ACTUALLLY do have a TOP end system it doesn't effect me very much at all it is just noticable compared to what i should be getting.

All in all i give FE a 8.0 for their launch, I'm not saying there is not issues to deal but IMO it is no worse than any other launch i've been involved in it has actually been a pretty smooth experience for me and i've been involved in launches for EnB, DNL, EQ2, SWG, Eve Online, WoW, War, Vanguard, AOC, LOTRO, Ryzom, Auto Assault, CO, and a few others i can't remember right now

basically i like how people post bullshit when they actually have no clue what they are truly talking about.

My bad.. I misread the post I quoted somehow as saying WAR and AOC rather than WoW.  You'll Notice I specified AAA MMOs that came out in the last few years.  I heard WoW had a pretty rough launch, but I wasn't there for it.  It's just about the only MMO I never played. 

I usually skip these kinds of posts. blah blah blah (fail) blah..

But while the OP started the thread with a snarky FAIL title his post really seems like an endorsement. A lot of the problems he mentions are basic new game mechanics. These things tend to get nailed down rather quickly after release, unlike problems with crafting and atmosphere which all tend to take a back seat to game play and combat.

Like many other vets of the MMO pile I refuse to buy a game unless I can try it free first. I encourage everyone to do the same.

Originally posted by Prankster

I usually skip these kinds of posts. blah blah blah (fail) blah..

But while the OP started the thread with a snarky FAIL title his post really seems like an endorsement. A lot of the problems he mentions are basic new game mechanics. These things tend to get nailed down rather quickly after release, unlike problems with crafting and atmosphere which all tend to take a back seat to game play and combat.

Like many other vets of the MMO pile I refuse to buy a game unless I can try it free first. I encourage everyone to do the same.

I fully endorse your "Free Trial first" rule. Paying for a game to essentially be a Beta Tester for any game is bad for players, and bad for the industry as a whole.

Fallen Earth has had, and does have various free trial offers going on hosted on various gaming websites. I'll conclude by saying Google is your friend. That is all.

 Too many pages, don't know if someone mentioned this, 

FE didn't have a true launch day, they let pre orders jump in the game as soon as they paid and downloaded. Then there was the alleged launch day when hard copies would hit the stores, but they actually didn't hit the stores, at least  not around here.

So FE has just been gradually adding and losing subs, their version of a launch day is Sundays. It doesn't happen anymore because everyone quit the game, but on Sundays the game used to plummet like a rock.

In defense of other old gamers, most launches were awful, I won't say FE had a great launch because it eased itself into the water, it didn't "launch"

It also depends where you are and your luck. My friend and I both got SWG the first day and awaited the launch. He lived 2 states away and i got in, he didn't. He couldn't get into the game for a full day, but it didn't matter that I got in before him because I had all sorts of problems.

I unfortunately bought WoW because all my old DaoC friends bought it, it was the worst launch I have played on. When I finally got in a half a week later there were invisible walls and low level mobs that were invincible.

Originally posted by AntonioV

................

So FE has just been gradually adding and losing subs, their version of a launch day is Sundays. It doesn't happen anymore because everyone quit the game, but on Sundays the game used to plummet like a rock.

 

........................

What the hell are you talking about?

Originally posted by crunchyblack

 

What the hell are you talking about?

 

 

I am talking about the fact that FE did not have a true launch. Most games launched all on one day or even made you all wait to a specific time on one day. FE just decided to let pre orders join once they paid. So there was no massive all at once launch. It was more like easing into a pool instead of using the diving board. 

It also never hit stores around here so you didn't have a hard copy launch in my state.  I go up and down the video game isles every time I am at the mall, Gamestop, Best Buy, Target, Wal Mart, local PC stores, I never saw a hardcopy of FE and the people I asked looked at me like they never heard of it, cause they hadn't

And if you mean the Sunday thing, the server was awful on Sundays and went down a few times, you can even search the forums and see the devs say "known issue" and "server back online"

So that it is what I was talking about. Not really much you can do except cry about it cause it's true.

Originally posted by AntonioV

Originally posted by crunchyblack

 

What the hell are you talking about?

 

 

 

I am talking about the fact that FE did not have a true launch. Most games launched all on one day or even made you all wait to a specific time on one day. FE just decided to let pre orders join once they paid. So there was no massive all at once launch. It was more like easing into a pool instead of using the diving board. 

 

It also never hit stores around here so you didn't have a hard copy launch in my state.  I go up and down the video game isles every time I am at the mall, Gamestop, Best Buy, Target, Wal Mart, local PC stores, I never saw a hardcopy of FE and the people I asked looked at me like they never heard of it, cause they hadn't

 

And if you mean the Sunday thing, the server was awful on Sundays and went down a few times, you can even search the forums and see the devs say "known issue" and "server back online"

 

So that it is what I was talking about. Not really much you can do except cry about it cause it's true.

Hey the sentance i quoted didnt make sense, leave me out of your argument im not interested.