Bethesda got the Fallout IP, they killed the ip doing a crap money sucker expansion based in the even crappier "windows live" game, and they now trying to get ready to ruin any chance of a Fallout decent mmo to see the day.

Tbh, and i doubt i am alone here, most of the work bethesda been doing is crap. First games [ Elder scrolls series etc ] were full of bugs and bad games engineering options, were frustating and that has been bethesda way of doing things till this day.

Even Fallout3 was buggy as hell with the extra feature of totally ruinning the IP by radically changing the game system.

I really hope Interplay will win, Interplay has been around for a while, launching amazing games that fill our gaming past and present with wonderful memories and dreams.

Interplay needs to bring Earthworm Jim to save them !

Originally posted by Infalible

Originally posted by SuperHans

Wow, I sure am stupid! I thought forums were a place to discuss things, happenings or stuff(or whatever word you think fits better) by posting your opinions and/or facts about the subject at hand. And really, insulting on the internet because I don't agree with your opinion(s)? If it makes you feel better, you can call me anything you want. Cheerio!
 

 

Yes, because the statement, "Never liked any of the games by Bethesda. Hope they burn," really lends to the discussion, right?

And I didn't insult you because you had a conflicting opinion. I insulted you because you presented that opinion with the tact of an angry badger and offered no insight into why you had that opinion. You didn't want to trigger or contribute to a discussion. You just want to troll Bethesda ;-) Thus, you were referred to as an idiot, which you quite clearly are.

 

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Originally posted by EduardoASG

Bethesda got the Fallout IP, they killed the ip doing a crap money sucker expansion based in the even crappier "windows live" game, and they now trying to get ready to ruin any chance of a Fallout decent mmo to see the day.

Tbh, and i doubt i am alone here, most of the work bethesda been doing is crap. First games [ Elder scrolls series etc ] were full of bugs and bad games engineering options, were frustating and that has been bethesda way of doing things till this day.

Even Fallout3 was buggy as hell with the extra feature of totally ruinning the IP by radically changing the game system.

I really hope Interplay will win, Interplay has been around for a while, launching amazing games that fill our gaming past and present with wonderful memories and dreams.

I doubt that anyone would say they killed the IP ;-) Perhaps hardcore, purist fan boys of the original games will say that they did but it's hardly true. What they did do was create a brand new Fallout game which went in a different direction and created a mass market fan base that will benefit from the new direction of the Fallout franchise whilst the original fan boys all huddle in a corner, crying about the whole situation. Majority > minority. Basic maths :-P

Maybe Bethesda can do more with the Fallout IP now.

 I played the crap out of Fallout and Fallout 2. Gods, but did I ever. Found the crashed UFO (velvet Elvis picture and all), got the car. They were excellent games, and Black Isle was an excellent studio. Interplay was not an excellent publisher, but oh well. I didn't care so much back then. So then Bethesda bought the Fallout license. I worried. Would they be able to do a 'real' Fallout game? I decided to wait to buy it. Finally I did get it. I was not disappointed. FO3 is IMNVHO entirely as good as the first ones. Is it the same game? No, but then time has kinda run away from the isometric turn based RPG a bit. It has its flaws - what game doesn't? But I can live with those. Moving the action to D.C. was a stroke of genius. The story itself feels eminently Fallout-esque, and the game system, while changed, fits very well.

I honestly do not get what people are complaining about here!

This news tells me that what is really happening is that the secret MMORPG Bethesda is developing is non other than Fallout Online.
Bethesda knew that Interplay wouldn't be able to start developing the game by April 09 (as by the contract) therefore they were already developing the MMO waiting for April 09 when the IP would have got back to them.

Unfortunately Interplay played a nasty trick on them, they signed Masthead Studios (Earthrise) to develop the game.......... ONE DAY before the contract deadline.
Now because technically Interplay started developing the game, Bethesda won't be able to get their IP back and their secret MMO will have to be kept on hold, so they are quite pissed off.

To be honest as much I respect Masthead for what they are trying to do with Earthrise, I doubt that they will be able to handle a hot IP like Fallout.
Fallout Online should be developed by the Masters of RPGs, Bethesda.
I am waiting ages for a MMO made by them, I thought they would develope Elder Scroll online, but I am sure they could do a good job with Fallout too, plus the world could do with a MMO with different setting than Fantasy.

I Hope Bethesda wins, Interplay is history.

Originally posted by wizyy

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This is the forum equivalent of running home to mommy. Pathetic.

Originally posted by MMO_Doubter

Originally posted by wizyy

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This is the forum equivalent of running home to mommy. Pathetic.

Ok then... Imbecile.

Originally posted by MMO_Doubter

Originally posted by wizyy

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This is the forum equivalent of running home to mommy. Pathetic.

And this, then, is the forum equivalent of not knowing why forums have moderators. Abusive behaviour is not something to cultivate, anywhere.

Although, I prefer to simply use the 'report' link, and not post about it unless I myself am directly involved. It's, well, cleaner.

Really Bethesda is a developer without any creativity, why? after playing daggerfall and morrowind they make the the ES 4 the same way and with was not as good, then they make FO 3 same way, bethesda have a huge problem they don't change, they stay the same and it get real boring real fast, FO3 I don't even feel like playing anymore, its was not even fun. other problem with bethesda is they leave everything to they player base make the game any good because they are weak to even fix they own bugs, I remember pretty well with ES 4, it was impossible to play till I get some basic mods(the ones to fix all the performance issues and other bugs) plus more quests. and I don't know why some poeple defend bethesda they don't worth anyone care about then just because they make one or 2 games good don't mean they are gods, and interplay is almost death anyway so its would be like kicking a death dog now.

a for the dude who says bethesda said they bought FO of good will, no one do things for good will, in business it always have other things behind.

I used to love Interplay AND Bethseda but now? I laugh at how stupid they both are.

Ever since Bethseda changed their CEO and that corrupt bullshit happened they have been weird ever since. They are so shadey, it's horrible. Interplay? They fired Black Isle Studios! Wtf? They made Bladurs Gate, Black and White, Fallout, Etc Etc, you all know what they made. They made AMAZING games. In fact they were 93%+ done with Fallout 3 and i was so excited for THEIR version of Fallout 3. I like Fallout 3 for the 360 but it went from a 9/10 to a 7/10 just because Bethseda bought them out. Honestly Bethseda the ONLY reference to Fallout was Vaults, Brotherhood, Pipboy and their armor. They should of changed those animations and made it something different like "End of the World" or some obvious aftermath name.

Also what are they thinking? The ONLY reason they are suing them is becuase they want to be the only people making Fallout, they are greedy and corrupt. It's a shame that this goes on nowadays with video game companies so much, it used to not be like this (as much).

I am going into the field, and it just shows me which companies to never work with. Especially if you are done with a game and a studio fires your entire studio and sells it to a different one. They MADE fallout (black isle), it was their baby, if you have ever made a project just imagine how Black Isle feels about all that, and because of the law they can't do anything even though it is really their projects.

However now Fallout is being made a mockery because Bethseda wants something that they know would be a good investment. Interplay screwed themselves over, they sold their most well known studio and now are getting sued.

This makes me quite sad.

P.S. if you don't do your research and look at the change of management in Bethseda and look at what happened to Black Isle and Interplay, please don't try to reply to this shit. I read some of your guys responses and you have no clue what is going on. If you don't know the facts, don't open your mouth (or type them out).

fuck fallout, bethesda needs to make an elder scrolls mmo

Whatever. I don't think Interplay can come up with the resources (Money) to finish what they've started and Bethesda doesn't have the talent to make anything but another derivative MMO. The only reason Bethsoft is even interested using the Fallout setting for an MMO is because The Elder Scrolls is essentially the same stuff that's been done to death by at least a dozen other companies. If it weren't for the lure of the WoW cash cow, both companies would have the sense to realize that Fallout, the setting and everything that made the game so appealing, is the very definition of the Anti-MMO.

Fallout 3 is a complete disaster. Over-rated, over-hyped game which is nothing then an average shooter with some RPG elements. It's full of bugs and BAD design. It has nothing to do with previous Fallouts (1 & 2) I love so much. I only hope, if Zenimax will win the IP, that the development of Fallout Online will NOT be under Bethesda's game designers supervision, but Obsidian's.

Win or lose, nothing good is going to come from it in my opinion...

The Black Isle Studios that gave us classics like the old Fallout games and Planescape: Torment is no more. Minds like Chris Avellone and Chris Jones are over at Obsidian now, today's Interplay is not the same people that made those games. So I see Interplay making a Fallout MMO as no different from some random development house making it.

As for Bethesda, I'm not a fan. To me, Fallout 3 played like a really clunky FPS and the gameworld was... well, I crave those touches of originality in games, like Bioware keeps on delivering. I find both the Elder Scroll series and Fallout 3 severely lacking in this regard. It's almost like they're the Jack Higgings of the gaming world or something. :) I feel a Fallout MMO by Bethesda would play exactly like you'd imagine, and to me that'd not be a good thing.

I'd really prefer a post-apocalyptic MMO from a company experienced in FPS gaming. Like Valve or ID.

Originally posted by metalhead980

We don't need a Fallout MMO. They need to keep creating awesome Rpgs like the Elderscrolls series and Fallout 3.

FO3 was an amazing game I can't wait for the next installment.

I feel the sameway about Bioware. those guys need to leave mmos alone and keep making fantastic Rpgs stupid idiots took my possible Kotor 3 and made it a damn WoWclone mmo.

I totally agree on this statement but...

If there is maybe one company that can be a serieus contender agains blizzard its bethesda not only can make superb rpg's they also have the funds and abillity to compete witha blizzard if they make a mmo.

Bioware's move to make a starwars mmo in style of WoW is a big mistake and terible thought with EA behind it bah:(

But i rather see Bethesda continuing with normal rpg's then make mmo's.

Originally posted by phenoix63

They fired Black Isle Studios! Wtf? They made Bladurs Gate, Black and White, Fallout, Etc Etc, you all know what they made. They made AMAZING games.

 you do realize, that Bioware made Baldurs Gate, Lion Gate(not sure if he was part of  Lion Gate when he did) but to be more specific Peter Molynux made Black and White... and yeah get your facts straight...