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9/12/09 5:00:48 PM#61
Angel and demon wings, the deity called Aion, the chaotic place called Abyss, those can't be copyrighted names. If they are, then some company has the exclusive rights to religion, heh. |
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9/12/09 5:01:32 PM#62
Originally posted by bastii
Since when are Churches copyright material? If you're going to put forward an argument, at least think before you type.
Why don't you think? Statues like that aren't copyrighted material because they are used by MANY and were created during the Gothic Period in England. I can find OTHER bands that use those similiar statues on their album covers as well, are you saying they have the right to sue as well? |
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Originally posted by Pryetta
Why don't you think? Statues like that aren't copyrighted material because they are used by MANY and were created during the Gothic Period in England. I can find OTHER bands that use those similiar statues on their album covers as well, are you saying they have the right to sue as well? First, anyone has a right to sue. Second, yes if they blatantly copied your design and logo, they can. |
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9/12/09 5:04:27 PM#64
Originally posted by Pryetta
So, you are saying..the Gothic Churches and other type of churches can sue NCsoft as well because those statues are in churches as well...
Thats some freaky churches you've been to with a big neon 'AION' sign above them, next time you go let me know I gotta see it. But like I said I think they'd lose, tbh here in UK I can only view the eu site and I cant find anything on there (wallpapers, concept art, etc) that'snywhere near as good (or that similar) as the album cover. ----- |
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9/12/09 5:10:34 PM#65
I think suing is predominantly a North American thing, it is always on the TV over here, where it has a different view IMO in Europe. Therefore even if the band Aion knows I doubt it very much.
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9/12/09 5:10:46 PM#66
Seems like a pure coincidence to me, this seems like a really obscure band (I may be wrong ofc). Album art is... pretty bad to me. If authors of the game had some sort of an inspiration given from any music that has connection to the name Aion, then maybe it's Dead Can Dance album "Aion". Got some fairly famous tunes there, like Saltarello. |
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9/12/09 5:12:03 PM#67
Originally posted by mrw0lf
So, you are saying..the Gothic Churches and other type of churches can sue NCsoft as well because those statues are in churches as well...
Thats some freaky churches you've been to with a big neon 'AION' sign above them, next time you go let me know I gotta see it. But like I said I think they'd lose, tbh here in UK I can only view the eu site and I cant find anything on there (wallpapers, concept art, etc) that'snywhere near as good (or that similar) as the album cover.
I said Statues..sweetheart...
Oh yeah everyone has the right to sue because you know everyone is sue happy because oh dear someone is using something that looks similiar to what I have...let's sue. |
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9/12/09 5:12:33 PM#68
Originally posted by drbaltazar you havent went to court in a long time have you.in usa there are million of lawsut triggered by the governement way more silly then this lot of lawyer sue for baught copyright they dont make stuff they only buy copy or pay inventor to think of a possible futur invention lot of telecomunication company are stuck in court because of theose closet company that sue in usa court is one if not the biggest industry if that polish band doesnt sue ,they only have themselves to blame it doesnt mather if this is true,that band will be overflowing with phonecall from lawyer firm that wants to represent them in court
You're not to big on reading. are you? Did you even look at the link? Buying and selling copyrights has absolutely zero to do with what we're talking about. Those copyrights are legitimate copyrights. Since the name of a band CANNOT be copyrighted, then there is no case.
Prior art? Maybe, if you could prove that the band Aion came up with those images. Unfortunately those images of angels and demons have been around a long, long time before the band Aion appeared on the scene. So you take yourself an angel:
Drop in a filagree gate
Add in your standard Mummy and you're done.
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9/12/09 5:21:18 PM#69
Originally posted by mrw0lf
So, you are saying..the Gothic Churches and other type of churches can sue NCsoft as well because those statues are in churches as well...
Thats some freaky churches you've been to with a big neon 'AION' sign above them, next time you go let me know I gotta see it. But like I said I think they'd lose, tbh here in UK I can only view the eu site and I cant find anything on there (wallpapers, concept art, etc) that'snywhere near as good (or that similar) as the album cover.
Seems you didn't look hard enough...Nightwish has something similiar.. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/fd/Endofanera.jpg
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9/12/09 5:28:08 PM#70
Bastil you're really grasping man... *everything* on that album cover is classic gothic angels and demons stuff.. plus it's a polish band. The polish are heavily religious. Even the gate is classic design.
And Aion is a deity...
No dice man. I don't know how exactly this thing picked vampire for me... I didn't pick any obviously vampire answers....  http://comedians.jokes.com/katt-williams/videos/katt-williams---haters |
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9/12/09 5:39:20 PM#71
Originally posted by Pryetta
Seems you didn't look hard enough...Nightwish has something similiar.. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/fd/Endofanera.jpg
But Honybunny ...no, seriously that looks just like the art style of the game/band, I can barely tell them apart, my eyes have been opened. How is this difficult to understand. I could take that album cover above and stick on the main page of the Aion game and noone would bat an eyelid. Now if that was done with forethough and knowledge, that's called illegal and you can get sued for it. And even without the knowledge if a judge deems it to be similar enough they can be made to change it. A little clearer squidgytits? Yay dice man. As to the other guy with the individual photos; what couldn't actually find one with all those elements on the same shot even without the name? or the art style? or even an angel that looks remotely the same? thats gotta hurt ----- |
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9/12/09 6:30:40 PM#72
Originally posted by mrw0lf
Seems you didn't look hard enough...Nightwish has something similiar.. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/fd/Endofanera.jpg
But Honybunny ...no, seriously that looks just like the art style of the game/band, I can barely tell them apart, my eyes have been opened. How is this difficult to understand. I could take that album cover above and stick on the main page of the Aion game and noone would bat an eyelid. Now if that was done with forethough and knowledge, that's called illegal and you can get sued for it. And even without the knowledge if a judge deems it to be similar enough they can be made to change it. A little clearer squidgytits? Yay dice man. As to the other guy with the individual photos; what couldn't actually find one with all those elements on the same shot even without the name? or the art style? or even an angel that looks remotely the same? thats gotta hurt
Really? I don't know how exactly this thing picked vampire for me... I didn't pick any obviously vampire answers.... http://comedians.jokes.com/katt-williams/videos/katt-williams---haters |
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9/12/09 6:33:36 PM#73
The gate design + angels are a bit classic... sorry to disappoint. It's also a polish band... these kind of images are popular there.
If you go into that link further you'll see plenty of catholic art depicting angels and demons with wings + the gate design...
Call the Pope he better sue Aion pronto! I don't know how exactly this thing picked vampire for me... I didn't pick any obviously vampire answers.... http://comedians.jokes.com/katt-williams/videos/katt-williams---haters |
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9/12/09 6:39:58 PM#74
Originally posted by Sentime
that might just be the dumbest statement ive ever heard on here, and quite frankly, this site is filled with dumb statements
so kudos |
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9/12/09 6:53:43 PM#75
Originally posted by mrw0lf
Seems you didn't look hard enough...Nightwish has something similiar.. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/fd/Endofanera.jpg
But Honybunny ...no, seriously that looks just like the art style of the game/band, I can barely tell them apart, my eyes have been opened. How is this difficult to understand. I could take that album cover above and stick on the main page of the Aion game and noone would bat an eyelid. Now if that was done with forethough and knowledge, that's called illegal and you can get sued for it. And even without the knowledge if a judge deems it to be similar enough they can be made to change it. A little clearer squidgytits? Yay dice man. As to the other guy with the individual photos; what couldn't actually find one with all those elements on the same shot even without the name? or the art style? or even an angel that looks remotely the same? thats gotta hurt
They can't and do not have the right to sue because if they did sue, then they can be sued for using Gothic Style art for their cover....The wings don't even look similar to that of the cover, the name of the band...big deal....the color...big deal. You can't copyright band names. Are we getting this loud and clear, honey? Or do we need to go through this again, like they taught you in class about how this style works. |
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9/12/09 7:27:48 PM#76
Originally posted by crpngdth
that might just be the dumbest statement ive ever heard on here, and quite frankly, this site is filled with dumb statements
so kudos
thanks!
at least my post, unlike yours, has something to do with the topic discussed perhaps you should make a "Who do I think is a dumbass" troll topic and post there. |
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9/12/09 7:41:08 PM#77
Originally posted by bastii
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9/12/09 8:21:16 PM#78
We different font. VERY different. Falls well within the law (at least Australian law). Someone would have to be looking for a reason to hate Aion to think this is an issue. |
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9/12/09 10:48:40 PM#79
Originally posted by bastii
Are you for real? This isn't just the name, look at the wings and compare them to the Elyos / Asmodian, look at the design of the gate and compare it to the logo, look at the colour of the logo, look at the name of the songs....This is all copied. It falls under prior art and you bet you can sue for that.
then email the band and tell them to get the ball rolling. otherwise stfu and get a life. 
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9/13/09 4:31:52 AM#80
WTF... I want the last 10 minutes of my life back. Only an american would debate something like this and think it's winnable. |
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