We said we'd never forget.     Do you remember?    I know it is easy to forget some things, but this is one we as a nation should never forget(for those that are Americans).   It was on this day 8 years ago that our nation changed.     My heart still sinks when I think of that day and what happened.    My anger has not subsided.   I still wish to see the people responsible caught.    I just wish so many innocent people had not been caught up in this mess.    So I am torn between knowing we must do something to protect ourselves and knowing that because of 9/11 even more people would be hurt and killed.    I, nor anyone I suspect, could have imagined where we would be today after these eight years and all the things that have taken place since then around the world because of this(Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, and elsewhere).    

It is a sad commentary on the human race that all this happened because we just cannot figure out how to live together in peace - and instead of helping one another all we do is continue to do our best to kill each other.

My thoughts go out today to all the people that have been directly or indirectly effected by the tragedy that was 9/11.    I hope that some day all of us, both here and abroad, can stop this madness and put an end to this never ending nightmare.     May those that have lost there lives find peace.  May those that lost their love ones be granted strength of heart and soul to carry on.

I still remember the horror of what happened 8 years ago today and it will be something that i will never forget.

To the radical Islamists.

www.youtube.com/watch

You can take our lives, but you cannot take our freedom.

As I shed tears again on this september 11th, I feel a great sense of pride in our country. Yes, that's right I am proud to be an American. On This day, in the face of evil we stand together. On this day we saw the brave passengers on flight 93 choose to fight against evil, refuse to  allow themselves to be used as weapons against their own people. They show us what it truly means to be American,  to be one of the brave and the free. Their courage in the face of evil, their willingness to fight against oppessors, the choice they made on this day saved the lives of others.

On this day we saw our brave fire fighters, police officers, and rescue teams  give thier own lives to save others.  Their courage should never be forgotten.  On this day we should always remember what it means to be an American and to stand together  in the face of all odds to protect the liberty and freedom we hold dear.

We should take from this the lessons learned from this day, and not coward down and hide from  those that wish to destroy freedom. We should take this and remember the price  of our freedom, and have the courage to defend that freedom regardless of  ALL odds or obstacles that attempt to stand in our way.

/SALUTE.

I'll never forget that morning.  I woke up to go to class around 7A.M. and for some odd reason I turned on the TV and went to brush my teeth. (I rarely turn to TV on, as I'm in a hurry to jet out the door)  BUT THEN, as I was brushing, I heard a news anchor start saying all kinds of craziness... I spit my toothpaste saliva all over the mirror in disbelief, ran to the TV looked at the pics, my jaw hit the floor, and my heart sank to Hades. 

I went to class, everyone was on the internet following in shock.  The atmosphere of the campus that day was eerrie, silent, creepy, scary, melancholy.  They called the day off eventually and everyone was just kinda like zombies.

I was so relieved to hear my relatives and family living/working in NYC were ok. 

condolences to anyone who lost loved ones during this horrific tragedy.

=(

I created a web page not to long after that tragic day. 

LINK

It still hurts inside when I view it.

Got me out of school early

Good day indeed. :D

I lived in downtown Chicago at the time.  It was crazy here with every building even semi-tall being evacuated.  People were pouring out of the sears tower.  It's my generations pearl harbor.

Drunk and passed out on the couch from the night before.  I was on mid-tour and killed a couple 5ths of something the night before. I don't remember now what I was drinking. Frankly, I remember more than I care too from around that time. Not 9/11 related. I did alot of stupid shit here and oversea's. Anyways. Left the T.V. on the night before and after the first plane hit I was woken up by all the rukus coming from the boob-tube. I was still lit and I honestly thought it was a movie. It took a few minutes for me to fully come to and realize it wasn't. A friend of mine lost an uncle at the towers.

Yes it was a sad day indeed and even sadder ,I think we are forgetting how bad it was ,you can definitely see the signs

I remember being in school when it happned. I thought it was a joke and I didn't capture that it was real till I got home and I looked all around me. My kin got out of the building safely, but so many died from inside and outside. This is also a day where ironically me and a friend did a Halo 3 clan called United Society of Assassins (USA) years ago, before it came out and it hit me then too. May all those people rest in peace. I know since then we have been fighting an ugly war that spawned from it.

I was working in Turkey during, at the time, Operation Northern Watch. I was getting of a long shift, literally turning off the lights in my shop for the night when someone called and told me to turn on the TV. We all watched in silence for hours, went to bed, knowing our long days were only starting.

It was a hoax, that's my opinion. I've read loads and loads..I mean loads of stuff about that certain event, and that is my conclusion.

History channel shows "102 minutes that changed america" every 9/11.  It's a good documentary using people's camera shots and various perspectives.   I've seen it several times now, and each time the screams still haunt me.

Originally posted by Teala

We said we'd never forget.    

So say we all.

I remember where I was (On the way to the hospital with the wife for her ultrasound to check on the twins). I remember watching it in the doctor's office with amazement.

I remember wanting to give blood, but being told too many people had came in already so they weren't accepting anymore locally. (takes me only 1 hour and 10 minutes to get to New York down I-78, so I figured they'd be needed it this close) Then I remember hearing how they threw away blood because they had too much to store, and it wasn't needed in the first place because everyone was dead pretty much.

I know plenty of people who went to work at the site removing rubble, bodies, directing traffic, performing security at the retrival sites, etc, that today have pulmonary problems that weren't covered because they were on their "own time". The other half were actually getting paid.. at time and a half and made TONS of cash while eating lots and lots of Portuguese food (hint on where they were) basically just guarding the place as state employees. (They were shipping remains and residue across the river using storage areas in New Jersey; taxpayer guarded places)

I also remember where I was when the San Francisco earthquake hit and those freeways collasped pancaking all those people underneath. I remember where I was when just about every plane crash that had people on it was. Or where I was when Katrina hit. Or where I was last week when I heard about those forest fires in California. Or when the Beirut bombing happened. Or the Munich Olympic nonsense.

Most of all I remember how everyone- Republican/Dem, Black/White, Rich/Poor were all one with a feeling of togetherness and compassion, the likes I had never seen and only heard of about WW2, and I remember just how fast it all got wasted away by politicians and now we are even further away than before the attacks happened as a nation.

Point is, I remember it all mostly privately now. The only thing that ever changes is the amount of bodies counted during each event or catastrophe, and I'm really tired of being told to "remember this" or "remember that" anymore. You can't really forget it so please don't tell me to "Always remember".

Honestly this far out, I'd just assume actually forget all about it and lump it into all the other tragedies and injustices that happened during American history and NOT be reminded with this or that local, county, state and federal rememberance especially at taxpayer expense each year. There should be ONE national thing and that's it if everyone is paying for it. Those people are dead and I don't see how throwing good money away each year helps, when it can be used on actual live, LIVING people. Please save the firetrucks and troop marches as everything nowadays gets some kind of parade good or bad. There is a new tragedy waiting to happen every year that needs a whole new parade planner.

I don't mean to sound cold but there really needs to be some kind of limit on how long these events have to be paraded where there is always someone selling T-shirts, sno-cones or other airtime yearly making it into an "event" and less like a remembrance.

To some of us it isn't " history".  Our families have lost loved ones that cannot be replaced. We lost entire fire departments that day, So many officers fallen, so many of our brave. Those wounds do not heal easily. If the fire departments wish to honor those that gave their lives  to save others, I say let them be. Let them do it their way. If that means they use the trucks for the day, so be it. There were many  of the best and the brightest lost that day, it is not some distant memory, there are still children without fathers, parents without their children there For many of Americans , our lives were changed forever, and we will never be the same.

To some of us this is just as painful today, as it was when it happened. This is an open gaping wound in the hearts and lives of Americans and it will heal in time, but that time has not yet come. Myabe one day, after the children of these fallen brave have passed from this world, it will be considered history, but that day has not yet come.

I just wish people would get along round the world.
Too many people are dying due to a few individuals.

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Originally posted by deviliscious
To some of us it isn't " history".  Yeah, but to most people around the world it is history that happened nine years ago. That's pretty much the reality. No one alive who saw it will forget. Don't have to be told over and over not to.

Our families have lost loved ones that cannot be replaced. We lost entire fire departments that day, So many officers fallen, so many of our brave. Those wounds do not heal easily. There is a certain word called "closure", that only comes from.. closing something. To keep rehashing the events over and over and over doesn't let the "wounds heal". It's like picking a scab off a sore every year so of course it won't "heal".

If the fire departments wish to honor those that gave their lives  to save others, I say let them be.Don't have a problem with this. I just don't want to be paying civil servants year after year for "memorials". Plaques, school namings, dedications are good enough. Why are people wasting tax money on something that just goes on forever with no purpose other than to say "Never Forget", when probably no one who saw it that day EVER will.

Let them do it their way. If that means they use the trucks for the day, so be it. There were many  of the best and the brightest lost that day, it is not some distant memory, there are still children without fathers, parents without their children there For many of Americans , our lives were changed forever, and we will never be the same.Everyone who died that day wasn't the "best and the brightest" by any stretch. I'm sure there were out of almost 4,000 one or two deadbeats or whatever. I doubt there was a major brain drain when those people died. Fire companies and police departments in NEW YORK put out new civil service exams (not in Texas), Wall Street firms rehired and the market had rebounded after the disaster. Janitors were rehired to clean the new buildings and renovated ones damaged and food service attendants will be rehired when they open a bigger, better version of the restaurant that was in the buildings. No one is replaceable as history moves on and shows in any area of life. Again, they were special to their families and should remain so, but this idea of year after year grieving certainly needs a cap or something. It can still be remembered and certainly is in EVERY school book in America already, as it should be. But enough with the money and television "events". There are plenty of families who lost loved ones that day that would just as much rather NOT see this every year as it is very painful and everytime they think they get over it, here comes another "tribute".

To some of us this is just as painful today, as it was when it happened. This is an open gaping wound in the hearts and lives of Americans and it will heal in time, but that time has not yet come. Myabe one day, after the children of these fallen brave have passed from this world, it will be considered history, but that day has not yet come.Again, you don't get over something by constantly reliving it, that should be apparent. It's time to let it go and place it in its proper place in history as a monumental event; not as a "Special broadcast of ..." or "a limited lifetime edition commemorative plate of only 1/10,000 firings" or some cheesy bumper stickers. Let's move on and stop ripping off the scabs. It's time to move on and put the black clothes away instead of dusting them off to wear every September.
 
 

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Again, not trying to be callous, but there is a such thing as proper grieving and I'm pretty sure this one has run it's course publicly. No one runs a yearly "Lockerbie Scotland memorial" and it's certainly not appropriate anymore. It's history. I certainly don't know whats the "official" length of a public grieving when deaths occur but if we haven't gotten there yet, it's almost a decade coming so it's got to be close.

I think the Iraq war is so closely linked (because Bush did so publicly and incorrectly) that whenever people see/think of those vets, they always think of 9/11 because tons of kids ran out and joined up only to get blown up or mindfried after being over there, so 9/11 will never be forgotten.

Originally posted by popinjay

 

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Originally posted by deviliscious
To some of us it isn't " history".  Yeah, but to most people around the world it is history that happened nine years ago. That's pretty much the reality. No one alive who saw it will forget. Don't have to be told over and over not to.

 

Our families have lost loved ones that cannot be replaced. We lost entire fire departments that day, So many officers fallen, so many of our brave. Those wounds do not heal easily. There is a certain word called "closure", that only comes from.. closing something. To keep rehashing the events over and over and over doesn't let the "wounds heal". It's like picking a scab off a sore every year so of course it won't "heal".

If the fire departments wish to honor those that gave their lives  to save others, I say let them be.Don't have a problem with this. I just don't want to be paying civil servants year after year for "memorials". Plaques, school namings, dedications are good enough. Why are people wasting tax money on something that just goes on forever with no purpose other than to say "Never Forget", when probably no one who saw it that day EVER will.

Let them do it their way. If that means they use the trucks for the day, so be it. There were many  of the best and the brightest lost that day, it is not some distant memory, there are still children without fathers, parents without their children there For many of Americans , our lives were changed forever, and we will never be the same.Everyone who died that day wasn't the "best and the brightest" by any stretch. I'm sure there were out of almost 4,000 one or two deadbeats or whatever. I doubt there was a major brain drain when those people died. Fire companies and police departments in NEW YORK put out new civil service exams (not in Texas), Wall Street firms rehired and the market had rebounded after the disaster. Janitors were rehired to clean the new buildings and renovated ones damaged and food service attendants will be rehired when they open a bigger, better version of the restaurant that was in the buildings. No one is replaceable as history moves on and shows in any area of life. Again, they were special to their families and should remain so, but this idea of year after year grieving certainly needs a cap or something. It can still be remembered and certainly is in EVERY school book in America already, as it should be. But enough with the money and television "events". There are plenty of families who lost loved ones that day that would just as much rather NOT see this every year as it is very painful and everytime they think they get over it, here comes another "tribute".

To some of us this is just as painful today, as it was when it happened. This is an open gaping wound in the hearts and lives of Americans and it will heal in time, but that time has not yet come. Myabe one day, after the children of these fallen brave have passed from this world, it will be considered history, but that day has not yet come.

Again, you don't get over something by constantly reliving it, that should be apparent. It's time to let it go and place it in its proper place in history as a monumental event; not as a "Special broadcast of ..." or "a limited lifetime edition commemorative plate of only 1/10,000 firings" or some cheesy bumper stickers. Let's move on and stop ripping off the scabs. It's time to move on and put the black clothes away instead of dusting them off to wear every September.
 
 

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Again, not trying to be callous, but there is a such thing as proper grieving and I'm pretty sure this one has run it's course publicly. No one runs a yearly "Lockerbie Scotland memorial" and it's certainly not appropriate anymore. It's history. I certainly don't know whats the "official" length of a public grieving when deaths occur but if we haven't gotten there yet, it's almost a decade coming so it's got to be close.

 

I think the Iraq war is so closely linked (because Bush did so publicly and incorrectly) that whenever people see/think of those vets, they always think of 9/11 because tons of kids ran out and joined up only to get blown up or mindfried after being over there, so 9/11 will never be forgotten.
 

And Liberals Wonder Why no One likes them... >.<

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Originally posted by Ekibiogami

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Originally posted by popinjay

 

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Originally posted by deviliscious
To some of us it isn't " history".  Yeah, but to most people around the world it is history that happened nine years ago. That's pretty much the reality. No one alive who saw it will forget. Don't have to be told over and over not to.
 
Our families have lost loved ones that cannot be replaced. We lost entire fire departments that day, So many officers fallen, so many of our brave. Those wounds do not heal easily. There is a certain word called "closure", that only comes from.. closing something. To keep rehashing the events over and over and over doesn't let the "wounds heal". It's like picking a scab off a sore every year so of course it won't "heal".
If the fire departments wish to honor those that gave their lives  to save others, I say let them be.Don't have a problem with this. I just don't want to be paying civil servants year after year for "memorials". Plaques, school namings, dedications are good enough. Why are people wasting tax money on something that just goes on forever with no purpose other than to say "Never Forget", when probably no one who saw it that day EVER will.
Let them do it their way. If that means they use the trucks for the day, so be it. There were many  of the best and the brightest lost that day, it is not some distant memory, there are still children without fathers, parents without their children there For many of Americans , our lives were changed forever, and we will never be the same.Everyone who died that day wasn't the "best and the brightest" by any stretch. I'm sure there were out of almost 4,000 one or two deadbeats or whatever. I doubt there was a major brain drain when those people died. Fire companies and police departments in NEW YORK put out new civil service exams (not in Texas), Wall Street firms rehired and the market had rebounded after the disaster. Janitors were rehired to clean the new buildings and renovated ones damaged and food service attendants will be rehired when they open a bigger, better version of the restaurant that was in the buildings. No one is replaceable as history moves on and shows in any area of life. Again, they were special to their families and should remain so, but this idea of year after year grieving certainly needs a cap or something. It can still be remembered and certainly is in EVERY school book in America already, as it should be. But enough with the money and television "events". There are plenty of families who lost loved ones that day that would just as much rather NOT see this every year as it is very painful and everytime they think they get over it, here comes another "tribute".
To some of us this is just as painful today, as it was when it happened. This is an open gaping wound in the hearts and lives of Americans and it will heal in time, but that time has not yet come. Myabe one day, after the children of these fallen brave have passed from this world, it will be considered history, but that day has not yet come.
Again, you don't get over something by constantly reliving it, that should be apparent. It's time to let it go and place it in its proper place in history as a monumental event; not as a "Special broadcast of ..." or "a limited lifetime edition commemorative plate of only 1/10,000 firings" or some cheesy bumper stickers. Let's move on and stop ripping off the scabs. It's time to move on and put the black clothes away instead of dusting them off to wear every September.
 
 

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Again, not trying to be callous, but there is a such thing as proper grieving and I'm pretty sure this one has run it's course publicly. No one runs a yearly "Lockerbie Scotland memorial" and it's certainly not appropriate anymore. It's history. I certainly don't know whats the "official" length of a public grieving when deaths occur but if we haven't gotten there yet, it's almost a decade coming so it's got to be close.
 

I think the Iraq war is so closely linked (because Bush did so publicly and incorrectly) that whenever people see/think of those vets, they always think of 9/11 because tons of kids ran out and joined up only to get blown up or mindfried after being over there, so 9/11 will never be forgotten.
 

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And Liberals Wonder Why no One likes them... >.<

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