Originally posted by Schaapje

I'll give you a straight answer.

After spending a month in Japan, and seeing more then enough hot girls with these douchebag guys that look like girls. And also hearing alot of other stuff from friends in my own country that have visited Japan.

They don't know the Western standard "Cool". As in good looking, bit muscular or w/e. All the Asian people know as "Cool" is being a girl as a guy. It's that simple.

If their version of cool attracts hot Japanese chicks then I don't see how anyone can find much flaw in their approach.

Asian cultures in the modern era, all due respect to the samurai(who had a tradition of pederasty all their own to rival the spartans btw)are just more effeminate. It just is they know it as well. Now if the idea of a man just being a man offends you, so be it. I would rather my toon not be a drag queen, that's just my personal view on it, whether or not you respect it is up both entirely up to you and irrelevant. :)

Originally posted by LynxJSA

If their version of cool attracts hot Japanese chicks then I don't see how anyone can find much flaw in their approach.

It's worthless if those chicks are only 'friends' with them.

Originally posted by MMO_Doubter

Originally posted by LynxJSA

If their version of cool attracts hot Japanese chicks then I don't see how anyone can find much flaw in their approach.

It's worthless if those chicks are only 'friends' with them.

The only chicks games like Aion will draw, are the fat ones in Naruto t-shirts that think if they can attract anime nerds, maybe then they can get laid. 

Originally posted by natuxatu

You can make a very manly looking man. As much so as any other MMO. You just need to go to the advanced tabs and adjust whatever you want.

"Yep some chicks dig girly men, and that's cool I guess....trust me scars and hair really dosen't help when they are standing holding a palm frawn over their heads with their hand on their hip."

This

Its imbedded in every aspect of the game play their is no escaping it.........

Originally posted by glofish

you can make the characters old and grumpy looking as well

On feature that I really like (maybe you missed it) is that for a given face you can choose increasingly older and battered facial features, deeper and deeper wrinkles etc

If you do not modify those options you'll always see the default face that happens to be the youngest one.

It Goes waaaay beyond the faces Glo, its in the postures, the body movement the hands on the hips (ass), the panting, the palm frawn over the head when its raining, the pom poms for the cheer, its sickening actually.

Well a lot of the hairstyles remind me of some of the "glam" hairstyles that are popular in Japan and Korea. So what we see as effeminate here women there see as do-able, I guess. In any case I never saw much about magical elves as "masculine" anyhow.

Originally posted by Dameonk

I don't really think this guy looks effeminate.

But that's just my opinion.

lol your kidding right?  and wait until hes shaking his ass when he walks, twirling his toes in the sand panting like hes out of breath standing there with his hands on his ass, holding a palm frawn over his head when its raining, or busting out his pom poms.  His face means nothing if he has the manerizims of a "", well if it walks like a duck, talks like a duck then it must be a duck.

Originally posted by Tisiphone

I think they're hot.

The muscled ones with facial hair and scars do not look effeminate to me.

I think your forum avatar is hot...do you have a toon fetish too?   : P

Originally posted by alderdale

lol your kidding right?  and wait until hes shaking his ass when he walks, twirling his toes in the sand panting like hes out of breath standing there with his hands on his ass, holding a palm frawn over his head when its raining, or busting out his pom poms.  His face means nothing if he has the manerizims of a "", well if it walks like a duck, talks like a duck then it must be a duck.

It's an emotion for god's sake! It's not like your going to use it every second while playing, emotions are there to have some fun.

Originally posted by KingGator

Also a woman on this thread compared it to being forced to play a male toon on a mmo......what game was that? I've been playing these things since eq1 and can't think of one that was designed with exc lusively male characters. This one seems to want to be the first meterosexual game only game. Does it threaten me? No. Will it stop me from playing? no. Does it effect with my immersion in the game? Yes, because I can't relate to my toon at all.

Chaos online for one....like if you want to be a rogue, you're forced to play a female character...can't tjink off-hand, but there are a few more. If  I'm not mistaken, in Archlord; if you want to be a certain class you have to be a specific race which I think also forces you to be a specific gender...not certain about the gender issue in that one though.

Originally posted by thorosuch

Originally posted by KingGator

Also a woman on this thread compared it to being forced to play a male toon on a mmo......what game was that? I've been playing these things since eq1 and can't think of one that was designed with exc lusively male characters. This one seems to want to be the first meterosexual game only game. Does it threaten me? No. Will it stop me from playing? no. Does it effect with my immersion in the game? Yes, because I can't relate to my toon at all.

 

Chaos online for one....like if you want to be a rogue, you're forced to play a female character...can't tjink off-hand, but there are a few more. If  I'm not mistaken, in Archlord; if you want to be a certain class you have to be a specific race which I think also forces you to be a specific gender...not certain about the gender issue in that one though.

That's true, in Archlord, certain genders can only be certain classes.

this is too funny. 

I have seen toons of many different looks on AION. The customization for this game is really cool.

Toad wolf or whatever your name was stop trolling and either remake or move on.

AION has been very fun to play so far. I cant wait for the official launch so I can make a character for keeps to grow in the game with.

Originally posted by Tinagame

 

this is too funny. 

I have seen toons of many different looks on AION. The customization for this game is really cool.

Toad wolf or whatever your name was stop trolling and either remake or move on.

AION has been very fun to play so far. I cant wait for the official launch so I can make a character for keeps to grow in the game with.

That's one thing I like about Aion....the customization is great!

This is the problem when you hire only females into your art team!

Frodalf, Frogimli, Frogolas, Froimir

Originally posted by Swanea

What exactly is wrong with them being effeminate?  And besides, there are tons of games made by asian devs that do not have effeminate men characters, if it threatens your sexuality that much, don't play....

This argument becomes so tired. Point out an single issue with a game and you get these people who are personally offended as if they receive a check in the mail from the developers. There response is always the same ..sarcasm followed by then some form of stop playing the game. "sigh"

What i dont like about aion characters, its hard or impossible to make them look like age of conan characters. They are too clean. I mean, if you want to make a berzerk character, he wont look berzerk since his gears are too shiny and too clean. We cannot make a character to that look dirty it seem

It's the emo style that's hip in Asia now a days, they have it in anime and manga also. It's pretty horrible the barbarians look like shemales, or at least openly gay. I don't have anything against homosexuals but i just don't like my viking warrior to be emo or gay looking. Mark my words, NO and i say NO Viking was ever openly gay OR emo.

What??? You didn't try hard enough to make your character look more masculine it seems. I played a male warrior and male priest on one of the servers, I picked a face I liked, altered it in the advanced controls to give him the more "scruffy" and "manly" look, scars and all types of things. I widen his eyes, arched the brows, expanded the cheek bones, the jaw line, the chin, etc. I've seen a lot of male characters run around looking more manly then a "coldplay concert", you don't need to pick the babyfaced characters. As the game went to "westernizing" you got more masculine looks.