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  UpskirtPower

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9/09/09 2:27:08 PM#1

why is asian developer make much prettier character in pc games opose to western developer?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

if you look at Aion female then look at Hellgate, you will notice hellgate's look short and fat.

if you look at Zera female then look at Oblivion(non-mod), you will notice ugliness Oblivion women look

if you look at Dark Elf Female in Lineage2 then look at Dark Elf Female in EverQuest2, you will notice eq2's is ugly

if you look at female in Requiem then look at female in Half-Life 2 you will notice Half-Life 2's is ugly

if you look at Lineage 2 female then look at GuildWars1's you will notice the body look unrealistic opose to l2's.

 

 

 

now judging facial.... you will notice western is stiff, robotic and goofy looking. look at LOTRO/Vanguard/Oblivion/TwoWorlds//Gothic3/Witcher/Half-Life2 for instant then look at Aion/Lineage2/Zera/Rappelz/MabinogiHeroes/BladeAndSoul.


and why is western art outside of pc game is awesome? look at Marvel, Deathmate, WildCats, Glory, DarkChylde, HeavyMetal, PrinceOfPersiaNextGen, GoldenAxeBeastRider ect... and even Borderlands and UT3 is not hideous and its a pc game.

why is western art in pc... i mean pc-rpg games is hideous?

 

 

ps. two worlds... i must admit our sister is hot. regardless........ male npc are just robotic.

 

 

 

 

answer my self: i guess asian dev knows pretty.

 

guildwars box art look pretty but then the actual model in-game look crap..... figure, shape of body is sloppy and unrealisitc. facial was ok though. face is totally not like oblivion.

 

 

 

  Barteaux

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9/09/09 2:28:36 PM#2

A pretty face helps when you can't spell.

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  Ilvaldyr

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9/09/09 2:29:06 PM#3

They don't. They just make ones that look much, much younger.


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  LtJohnnyRico

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9/09/09 2:31:27 PM#4

They don't. They make a pedophile fantasy.

  Kilmar

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9/09/09 2:32:42 PM#5

Pretty = girly ?

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  UpskirtPower

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9/09/09 2:32:47 PM#6

if you look at Aion female then look at Hellgate, you will notice hellgate's look short and fat.

if you look at Zera female then look at Oblivion(non-mod), you will notice ugliness Oblivion women look

if you look at Dark Elf Female in Lineage2 then look at Dark Elf Female in EverQuest2, you will notice eq2's is ugly

if you look at female in Requiem then look at female in Half-Life 2 you will notice Half-Life 2's is ugly

if you look at Lineage 2 female then look at GuildWars1's you will notice the body look unrealistic opose to l2's.

 

 

 

now judging facial.... you will notice western is stiff, robotic and goofy looking. look at LOTRO/Vanguard/Oblivion/TwoWorlds//Gothic3/Witcher/Half-Life2 for instant then look at Aion/Lineage2/Zera/Rappelz/MabinogiHeroes/BladeAndSoul.


and why is western art outside of pc game is awesome? look at Marvel, Deathmate, WildCats, Glory, DarkChylde, HeavyMetal, PrinceOfPersiaNextGen, GoldenAxeBeastRider ect...

why is western art in pc games is not pretty?

 

 


 

  bloodaxes

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9/09/09 2:36:16 PM#7
Originally posted by UpskirtPower

if you look at Aion female then look at Hellgate, you will notice hellgate's look short and fat.

if you look at Zera female then look at Oblivion(non-mod), you will notice ugliness Oblivion women look

if you look at Dark Elf Female in Lineage2 then look at Dark Elf Female in EverQuest2, you will notice eq2's is ugly

if you look at female in Requiem then look at female in Half-Life 2 you will notice Half-Life 2's is ugly

if you look at Lineage 2 female then look at GuildWars's you will notice the body look unrealistic opose to l2's.

 

 

 

now judging facial.... you will notice western is stiff, robotic and goofy looking. look at LOTRO/Vanguard/Oblivion/TwoWorlds//Gothic3/Witcher/Half-Life2 for instant then look at Aion/Lineage2/Zera/Rappelz/MabinogiHeroes/BladeAndSoul.


and why is western art outside of pc game is awesome? look at Marvel, Deathmate, WildCats, Glory, DarkChylde, HeavyMetal ect...

why is western art in pc games is not pretty?

In my opinion it's because they prefer to not risk much on new ideas and tend to do the same stuff with better graphics.

Note this is my opinion even if it may be false.

  Vespers

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9/09/09 2:39:22 PM#8

Asian characters generally tend to favor the sleek, smooth, and exotic features whereas the Western characters generally tend to favor more realistic features.
Also, it seems that Asian game companies tend to focus more on the game graphics instead of game content whereas Western game companies tend to focus more on actual game content rather than making things overly pretty.

  UpskirtPower

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9/09/09 2:44:21 PM#9
Originally posted by Vespers

Asian characters generally tend to favor the sleek, smooth, and exotic features whereas the Western characters generally tend to favor more realistic features.
Also, it seems that Asian game companies tend to focus more on the game graphics instead of game content whereas Western game companies tend to focus more on actual game content rather than making things overly pretty.

 

i say asian is more realistic. western is no way called realistic. western is stiff, robotic and goofy.

look closely at the facial of Oblivion.... you will see a robot! or andruid! even an older game Lineage 2 dont look robotic.

 

 

heres my thought western focus on techinical graphic, background and enviorment while eastern specialize on character model.

ill go for character first than enviorment graphic. Lineage 2 is like 2003? 2004? and look at the character model.... shape is relaistic and armor is so shiny... compare to character model in 2007 Vanguard.

  Fortenc

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9/09/09 2:45:32 PM#10
Originally posted by Vespers

Asian characters generally tend to favor the sleek, smooth, and exotic features whereas the Western characters generally tend to favor more realistic features.
Also, it seems that Asian game companies tend to focus more on the game graphics instead of game content whereas Western game companies tend to focus more on actual game content rather than making things overly pretty.

 

I think that this is the closest to the truth.  Developers in the east concentrate on creating a style and a flow to the graphics and make this a top priority.  Western developers tend to, though not always, mimic gritty historical realism or at least move closer to realism.  Of course there are exceptions, and WoW is one of those.  Seemed to work well for them, breaking out of the conventional visual mode and all.. helps open up the game to users with bad graphics, too.

 

Strangely enough though, random fact of the day when it comes to that, Aion runs more smoothly than WoW on bad computers.. weird.

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  Mardy

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9/09/09 2:46:24 PM#11
Originally posted by UpskirtPower

why is asian developer make much prettier character in pc games opose to western developer?

 


 

It's anime style, which is not exactly the style many people here prefer.  It's not that one is prettier than the other, it's the difference in artistic style.  Asian developers cater to asians, while western developers cater to the audience here.

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  Fortenc

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9/09/09 2:46:58 PM#12
Originally posted by UpskirtPower
Originally posted by Vespers

Asian characters generally tend to favor the sleek, smooth, and exotic features whereas the Western characters generally tend to favor more realistic features.
Also, it seems that Asian game companies tend to focus more on the game graphics instead of game content whereas Western game companies tend to focus more on actual game content rather than making things overly pretty.

 

i say asian is more realistic. western is no way called realistic. western is stiff, robotic and goofy.

look closely at the facial of Oblivion.... you will see a robot! or andruid! even an older game Lineage 2 dont look robotic.

 

That's called the Uncanny Valley and is caused by trying to be too realistic.  It makes the eye and brain register things as being ugly and, truth be told it is ugly because it's nigh-impossible to get close to reality without looking weird.  Either it is reality or something is wrong with it.

 

But yeah, Oblivion had ugly faces, heheh.

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  Methos12

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9/09/09 2:50:16 PM#13

Not neccesarily, it's just that, for example, ideal males tend to be more androgynous in the eastern societies, it's their ideal form which they all apparently strive to. Don't ask me why, don't ask me how because I personally don't get it... not saying that all guys should be "manly men" with beards and lumberjack as their chosen profession, but I'd like it if they looked more like... you know, gender defined men. As for females, it's once again this whole submissive and "porcelain doll-ish" wife ideal they have, at least if you ask me.
 

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  Salvatoris

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9/09/09 2:51:30 PM#14

I suppose if your game can't hold it's own based on features of gameplay, you have to rely more on selling sex appeal to pervy teens... with names like "upskirtpower".  

 

We all know the women in Oblivion are horse faced, but you are just choosing the worst Western examples and comparing them to the most attractive characters in Asian games.  I stay away from assign games specifically because i don't like the art style.  A bunch of mostly nude female warriors with the faces of children.... but I guess we all have different tastes.

  bloodaxes

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9/09/09 2:58:36 PM#15

Personal tastes on "manly men" I always try to make a male character when playing a game but I hate it when it's bulky, I prefer slim to normal body size.

  Aphex

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9/09/09 2:59:13 PM#16
Originally posted by Fortenc
Originally posted by UpskirtPower
Originally posted by Vespers

Asian characters generally tend to favor the sleek, smooth, and exotic features whereas the Western characters generally tend to favor more realistic features.
Also, it seems that Asian game companies tend to focus more on the game graphics instead of game content whereas Western game companies tend to focus more on actual game content rather than making things overly pretty.

 

i say asian is more realistic. western is no way called realistic. western is stiff, robotic and goofy.

look closely at the facial of Oblivion.... you will see a robot! or andruid! even an older game Lineage 2 dont look robotic.

 

That's called the Uncanny Valley and is caused by trying to be too realistic.  It makes the eye and brain register things as being ugly and, truth be told it is ugly because it's nigh-impossible to get close to reality without looking weird.  Either it is reality or something is wrong with it.

 

But yeah, Oblivion had ugly faces, heheh.


  No, most of the games he mentions has bad looking characters, especially Oblivion and Vanguard. Part of the reason is art (Vanguards art is bad in general) but the main reason is probably customizability. The asian games that I've seen generally have a very low amount of customization, while the Western games let you customize fine details in the face. The second thing is simply harder to do.

The only game that you mentioned that doesn't allow this customization is Half-life 2 and that has some of the best looking characters I've seen. Far better then the asian MMO's you mention.

  UpskirtPower

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9/09/09 3:03:07 PM#17
Originally posted by Mardy
Originally posted by UpskirtPower

why is asian developer make much prettier character in pc games opose to western developer?

 


 

It's anime style, which is not exactly the style many people here prefer.  It's not that one is prettier than the other, it's the difference in artistic style.  Asian developers cater to asians, while western developers cater to the audience here.

 

western have other option than goofy robotic.  why not use the style of their comics? or TV cartoon shows? or fantasy art museum gallery?

Prince of Persia the next gen is perfect. why not do like that? it dont look goofy nor robotic. or Unreal Tournament... characters in UT are awesome and totally not goofy robotic.

 

 

 

  Mardy

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9/09/09 3:07:01 PM#18
Originally posted by UpskirtPower 

western have other option than goofy robotic.  why not use the style of their comics? or TV cartoon shows? or fantasy art museum gallery?

Prince of Persia the next gen is perfect. why not do like that? it dont look goofy nor robotic. or Unreal Tournament... characters in UT are awesome and totally not goofy robotic.

 

 

 

 

I wouldn't call WoW and WAR's characters "goofy robotic".  Which games are you comparing to and complaining about anyway?

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  Locklain

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9/09/09 3:07:56 PM#19

As some have already mentioned, sex sells.  Beauty and perfection has always been seen in youth for both male and female.  That, however, is not to say that people can't be attractive with age.  As for those looking for realism in games, do take into account that 65% of Americans are overweight and the average dress size is inching closer, if not already, a size 14.

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9/09/09 3:10:35 PM#20
Originally posted by UpskirtPower
Originally posted by Mardy
Originally posted by UpskirtPower

why is asian developer make much prettier character in pc games opose to western developer?

 


 

It's anime style, which is not exactly the style many people here prefer.  It's not that one is prettier than the other, it's the difference in artistic style.  Asian developers cater to asians, while western developers cater to the audience here.

 

western have other option than goofy robotic.  why not use the style of their comics? or TV cartoon shows? or fantasy art museum gallery?

Prince of Persia the next gen is perfect. why not do like that? it dont look goofy nor robotic. or Unreal Tournament... characters in UT are awesome and totally not goofy robotic.

 

 

 


 

I really don't find the female characters to be ugly in most of the AAA western MMOS.  You are having to look outside the MMO genre for most of your examples.  Vanguard lets you make some pretty ugly characters, but you can also make them attractive.  I think the female characters in WAR and AOC both look pretty good.  I certainly prefer them to the ones in lineage 2 or Guild Wars.  The female characters in Aion look pretty decent, but the male characters all look a little soft and androgynous to me... some of them are downright feminine.  The thing that I always find to be odd is that the characters in Asian games rarely look Asian. 

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