Originally posted by peteski123

Originally posted by renshu1287

All we've been able to play/see so far for the U.S. release is up to lvl 30. I know if all you saw of WoW was up to lvl 30 you would have a completly different view of it. Raiding and end game pvp are going to play a huge role in this game. A role none of us have had the opportunity to play. So STFU about your good/bad reviews of this game. In the end there worthless.

 

Then surely so is your opinion also of this game? and what you have to say about how it might be..

Strange comment to make while making a comment about others comments, wait, did i comment?

I unlike so many others did not try to share/force my opinion on others. I honestly feel that we haven't been able to see enough of the game be it bad or good to make an informed decision on the ultimate quality of this game. And for the people that make it their life's mission to try and bash this game in attempt to get just one if not more people to not try this game is the great bastardization of what these forums have turned into. You can't say this game sucks or is great based of the appetizer we were given so far. But i do find it enjoyable to read the reviews that try.

And who ever was talking about this game being a carbon copy etc. What game out there (that is massively popular) isn't like other games? In addition, most games are usually the same thing as every other game for the first 30,40,50 or w/e it may be in lvls. What it comes down to is polish, customer support, combat mechanics, fine tuning of the market standards and the few twists and innovations not so much inventions (which some people can't tell the differnce on) .

People are capable of bashing the game because they have nothing else to do. Some people play a game and say hmm its beta I dont like it... so im not going to play it as they didnt pay anything for it, no harm, no foul... others play for free and take it as their divine right to persuade others to not play also because they get this feeling of being insulted as it wasn't up to their expectations. They couldn't feel the same joy as Review A or B that gave it rave reviews. They feel tarnished and emotionally hurt by this so like a stalker who wont leave his ex alone, they start the name calling and bashing in hopes that someone else cares. Then they find out everyone else doesn't care because they are getting them some while he's psychoticly whining and complaining. People say move on there are other fish in the sea... but not this guy... he's going to make sure everyone knows how he feels. Crying... Snot running down his nose... jerking off in the shower weeping... listening to love songs for the memories...

same ol s*** just a different game.

Originally posted by //\\//\\oo

Originally posted by Kyleran

Forget 30 levels, people bash Aion after playing 5 levels, its just what they seem to enjoy doing.

Even though they've not come close to the PVP portion of the game, many posters see fit to pass judgement on the entire game and say, "its just like WOW"

Yes, of course in many ways it is, and certainly the early levels of PVE don't bring us anything new.  Its in the Abyss and Rift wars where this game will either shine or suck, and until those get going full bore and people get a chance to really experience it, I don't  think you can really judge this game yet.

Unless of course you hate PVP, which in that case you are in the wrong game.

 

 

  Well, the thing is that this game has a lot of players expecting something they had encountered in release WoW, only with shinier graphics and World PvP with incentive; the problem is that it doesn't quite fit the bill in terms of content and the lack of character customization along with linear progression leaves a bitter taste in some peoples' mouths.

  What will keep people playing Aion, however, is that it is very well polished, which is something neither AoC, nor WAR could boast about. Even if they are disappointed, they will keep playing, because it is their hobby and this is the best new item on the market at the moment.

  The lack of innovation and ridiculous similarities to the games we've all played before simply means Aion is open to bashing;  when WoW came out it was bashed more than any other game on these forums: People came out of the woodwork to insult players and disparage WoW's copycat MMORPG. Aion is even less innovative than WoW was in it's time, so why expect anything else? 

 

 

Lack of character customization, you must be kidding. Aion has an amazing creator creation feature and on top of that you can dye your armor..put it this way, wow has five faces to pick from and Aion has millions. wow has 5 hair styles and Aion has 48, Now please tell me which game sufferes from lack of customization.

Aion's customization is more then enough in my opinion I don't want CoX/Co type of customization in a real mmorpg it would make me waste too much time trying to create my "perfect" character which eventually would make me sick and probably not play the game.

Originally posted by ronan32

Lack of character customization, you must be kidding. Aion has an amazing creator creation feature and on top of that you can dye your armor..put it this way, wow has five faces to pick from and Aion has millions. wow has 5 hair styles and Aion has 48, Now please tell me which game sufferes from lack of customization.

I think WoW relies on gear matching as its own "character customization" -- there in lies why you can't paint your gear in WoW.  I kinda like it.  You know what people are wearing because of its style, color, etc.  You might not always match, but it gives you a goal.  I remember playing for the first time and seeing the level 60's in their uber cool matching gear, Then getting to 80 myself and having almost full T 7.5... it seems really dumb, but it was appealing.. even addicting.  Dying your armor can be a positive aspect.. or negative -- depending on the player.

As for Aion's customizable character faces and bodies.  It's all gravy, however how often do you *really* see your toon's face?  And what's with the mini-me's running around with their legs moving a thousand steps per minute... or the giant cleric I saw the other day whose name was "rubberman" and litterally looked like gumby all stretched out.  Comical, but.. kind of annoying.  My guess is that in the end game creating a smaller toon would leverage some advantage by making you tougher for the opponent to see / click on.

Also, if Aion was really paying attention to character detail, when you make a fat character he shouldn't move like the same class "athletic" character.  He should be a lumbering fat man that chuckles and rubs his tummy.  Think EVE Online -- Ambulation.

Originally posted by LodenDSG

Its getting bashed so hard because its popular and in beta, it willg et hit even harder on go live untill somthing else draws the trolls attention such is the way of MMO boards.

Heh, any new game gets bashed here. Darkfall aint that popular and still all trolls have one opinion or another at it.

But just like WAR it will take some time before people know if it is a great game or not. You can however see if the game is totaly not for you rather fast. If you are bored the whole time you should probably try something else.

Originally posted by Tailz2k7

People are capable of bashing the game because they have nothing else to do. Some people play a game and say hmm its beta I dont like it... so im not going to play it as they didnt pay anything for it, no harm, no foul... others play for free and take it as their divine right to persuade others to not play also because they get this feeling of being insulted as it wasn't up to their expectations. They couldn't feel the same joy as Review A or B that gave it rave reviews. They feel tarnished and emotionally hurt by this so like a stalker who wont leave his ex alone, they start the name calling and bashing in hopes that someone else cares. Then they find out everyone else doesn't care because they are getting them some while he's psychoticly whining and complaining. People say move on there are other fish in the sea... but not this guy... he's going to make sure everyone knows how he feels. Crying... Snot running down his nose... jerking off in the shower weeping... listening to love songs for the memories...

 

same ol s*** just a different game.

I see we have some issues. :D

If you like the game, play the game. If you don't like the game, don't play the game.

Coming on the forums and going "Waaaahh!" isn't going to accomplish anything.

I'm pretty sure if you like the game and enjoy playing it, people coming on the forums is not going to change that. If it does, well.. Waah.

The reaosn they can bash it is because its just another wow clone that brings nothing at all new to the table, about the only thing it has going for it is pretty graphics, everything else about the game is all Been there done that to alot of people. Its mainly why I didn't buy aion, it just doesn't offer anything I can't get out of any other mmo I play.

Originally posted by Kyleran

Forget 30 levels, people bash Aion after playing 5 levels, its just what they seem to enjoy doing.

Even though they've not come close to the PVP portion of the game, many posters see fit to pass judgement on the entire game and say, "its just like WOW"

Yes, of course in many ways it is, and certainly the early levels of PVE don't bring us anything new.  Its in the Abyss and Rift wars where this game will either shine or suck, and until those get going full bore and people get a chance to really experience it, I don't  think you can really judge this game yet.

Unless of course you hate PVP, which in that case you are in the wrong game.

 

The problem is if like I don t like the combat and questing as they were both utterly boring to me in 20+ levels who cares how the pvp is. Many people feel this way, it s the same old same old and rather boring. All out bashing for no reason is one thing but when a game brings really nothing new to the table and bores people to death because they ve all done it a million times before , they have ever right to critique it. I personally don t see anything that great about it at all, but hey thats me.

Some will like it and some will not but there is a big difference between bashing a game and someone just giving their opinions. What I find amusing is that you get the Aion fanclub all in a frenzy when you voice your opinion that is different from theirs.

Originally posted by Mizzoufan

It's simple: The Planet Earth, "it's where all the haters/trolls are"

fixed that for you.

Move along, nothing new to see here, that's how I feel.  The game feels just like every other MMO starting out and I'm sorry, but this has become boring after 10 years of playing MMO's.  If the end game is so great as many have commented, maybe they should make it a part of the game sooner so it doesn't feel like the same old grind to play at lower levels.  The graphics are sub-par for the era of technology we are in, but it's all a matter of perspective and opinion.  I suppose if you like playing a game that looks cartoony and somewhat like a coloring book then it's the awesomesauce.  All in all I have tried to force myself to log back in and play, but just lack the desire to do so.  Clearly It's my personal taste to want something that is a tad bit more realistic looking to play.

I am hoping that the game will be something new and fresh towards the end game, but I don't honestly know if I have the patience to get there. I have played all of the beta events so far and the game just feels exactly like every other major cookie-cutter themepark MMORPG on the market...

There just isn't enough new here to really hold my attention. Nevertheless, I will TRY to get into it.

Originally posted by renshu1287

All we've been able to play/see so far for the U.S. release is up to lvl 30. I know if all you saw of WoW was up to lvl 30 you would have a completly different view of it. Raiding and end game pvp are going to play a huge role in this game. A role none of us have had the opportunity to play. So STFU about your good/bad reviews of this game. In the end there worthless.

So everyone who has in your view a negative thing to say about "this game" has a worthless review, but your using abbraviated profanity in a negative post towards them is OK? Help me out with that.

It's not really a bad post, you have points that can be measured and perhaps appreciated. Why end up insulting anyone who doesn't agree with you?

People have to measure things all the time without having the full experience of it. There would be a lot less posters if the criteria was having to have played up to 30.

cheddar and Broccoli

Only thing I will bash is the Community, but hoping it gets less annoying at launch.  Also the gnome sized character option is a little rediculous.  I can imagine how annoying that will be during pvp.

Use your Tab key ;)

Originally posted by //\\//\\oo

Originally posted by Kyleran

Forget 30 levels, people bash Aion after playing 5 levels, its just what they seem to enjoy doing.

Even though they've not come close to the PVP portion of the game, many posters see fit to pass judgement on the entire game and say, "its just like WOW"

Yes, of course in many ways it is, and certainly the early levels of PVE don't bring us anything new.  Its in the Abyss and Rift wars where this game will either shine or suck, and until those get going full bore and people get a chance to really experience it, I don't  think you can really judge this game yet.

Unless of course you hate PVP, which in that case you are in the wrong game.

 

 

  Well, the thing is that this game has a lot of players expecting something they had encountered in release WoW, only with shinier graphics and World PvP with incentive; the problem is that it doesn't quite fit the bill in terms of content and the lack of character customization along with linear progression leaves a bitter taste in some peoples' mouths.

  What will keep people playing Aion, however, is that it is very well polished, which is something neither AoC, nor WAR could boast about. Even if they are disappointed, they will keep playing, because it is their hobby and this is the best new item on the market at the moment.

  The lack of innovation and ridiculous similarities to the games we've all played before simply means Aion is open to bashing;  when WoW came out it was bashed more than any other game on these forums: People came out of the woodwork to insult players and disparage WoW's copycat MMORPG. Aion is even less innovative than WoW was in it's time, so why expect anything else? 

 

 

Very true, as so far I'm liking Aion for both it's beauty and polish, even though I have yet to see anything new or innovative (though I haven't played past level 11). Although Warhammer lacked polish upon it's release and still leaves a lot to be desired, I really enjoy it for a lot of the innovative features that were previously missing from anything else that I had ever played.

Unless I find Aion's PvP to be as much to my liking and as fun as Warhammer, I'll likely still keep my sub to Warhammer along with Aion. I'm pretty content with the improvements that WAR has made and it seems that they are headed in a much better direction since changes have been made over at Mythic.

Not to detract or go off topic from the OPs initial comments, but I'd appreciate comments or a PM from anyone here who has played WAR in regards to how Aion's PvP compares. And please, no responses like those that I've received in-game (Aion), ie "Aion's PvP is awesome, WAR's sucked." That is the one thing that I'm hating about Aion so far, is all the asshats from WoW that I was lucky enough not to run into with the frequency I've seen in both WoW and so far in Aion.
 

I look at Aion this way: what other MMO out there now brings all the best features of MMO's so far together and brings a bit of nostalga with it. Yes it has what already existing MMO's have but a lot of them have this feature or that feature, but not a lot of them bring these features into one MMO.

PvP wise Aion has done a good deal many things better than other MMO's, PvE wise remains to be seen yet as the better PvE content is level 30+ in my opinion. Certain bosses that have a hate list of certain classes that they attack once and a while, so it keeps your group on their toes.

Where else do you get a crafting system that's not a complete nyerk up and get xp while doing so, a system that helps you skill up the craft instead of grinding it up.

The level of customization for your character or armor surpasses most other MMO's period. How many MMO's allow flight combat? How many MMO's have a NPC race participate in PvP sieges for an unknown turnout?

The use of combat modifiers in movement that brings the PvP upto par, the balance between classes is close, keeping the faction populations close to each other is also a good factor to think upon.

There are many other content driven stuff we have not even scratched yet, the trolls will always come out to bash a game if it has promise to be near the top of the genre.