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  User Deleted
 
9/08/09 11:02:15 AM#1

Couldn't even get through char gen without needing to spend money to do the things I want to do.

Granted I could get through without spending money but that would entail NOT making the char I want.  And what would be the point of not playing the char you want in an RPG?

My guess is the game will end up with the same active player base as they had before as people who back only because its f2p are going to be disappointed.

Background: Got DDO at launch, hated it. Retried it a few times, hated it. Heard it was f2p, figured maybe it was worth it for that price. Its not. Game is not worth playing if you're playing it because its free.

They shouldn't call it f2p. Its more UGWUP4P (You get what you pay for play).

  Outkil

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9/08/09 11:09:27 AM#2

So if you tried it when you had to pay, whay did you go back when it was f2p.  You really did not expect anything to have changed.  Did you?

  erandur

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9/08/09 11:10:34 AM#3

Could you please tell me why you couldn't make a character? Are some classes VIP-only? People who never bought it can only start playing tomorrow, and i don't feel like wasting bandwidth if I can't make a decent charc...

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  RDBeast

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9/08/09 11:11:56 AM#4

I agree its a bit silly that you have to pay for the 2 classes or races but oh well..... if you cant enjoy a different type of class then unlucky. lol

 

Erandur you need to Pay some points for Monk and Favoured soul class and for Warforged and Drow races. All others are free though.

  Shiyan

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9/08/09 11:13:42 AM#5
Originally posted by erandur

Could you please tell me why you couldn't make a character? Are some classes VIP-only? People who never bought it can only start playing tomorrow, and i don't feel like wasting bandwidth if I can't make a decent charc...


 

Some classes and races are VIP only. You have to spend money to get them. DDO has been a great idea but it simply doesn't have the gusto that most gamers are looking for now.

Shiyan

  Redline65

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9/08/09 11:15:42 AM#6

What did you want? Drow? Warforge? Monk?

I think it will do fairly well. There's already a huge number of folks playing on Cannith in the low level areas and the game hasn't even opened to F2P new players yet. I'm just one guy but if it were not free, I wouldn't be playing. I always felt they should have gone with the Guild Wars type model, charge for the box and let people play with no subscription fee. But at least you can get Turbine points by earning favor, although you'd need an epic amount of favor to have access to all the content.

  User Deleted
 
9/08/09 11:16:07 AM#7
Originally posted by Outkil

So if you tried it when you had to pay, whay did you go back when it was f2p.  You really did not expect anything to have changed.  Did you?

I didn't expect it to be different but thought that for free, might be a passable waste of time.

  Palebane

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9/08/09 11:16:26 AM#8
Originally posted by Shiyan
Originally posted by erandur

Could you please tell me why you couldn't make a character? Are some classes VIP-only? People who never bought it can only start playing tomorrow, and i don't feel like wasting bandwidth if I can't make a decent charc...


 

 DDO has been a great idea but it simply doesn't have the gusto that most gamers are looking for now.


 

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  User Deleted
 
9/08/09 11:17:47 AM#9
Originally posted by erandur

Could you please tell me why you couldn't make a character? Are some classes VIP-only? People who never bought it can only start playing tomorrow, and i don't feel like wasting bandwidth if I can't make a decent charc...

I could make a char. I couldn't make the char I wanted for free.

Only took bout 1.5 hrs to download. check it out for yourself.

  Redline65

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9/08/09 11:28:56 AM#10
Originally posted by erandur

Could you please tell me why you couldn't make a character? Are some classes VIP-only? People who never bought it can only start playing tomorrow, and i don't feel like wasting bandwidth if I can't make a decent charc...


 

Check out the scoop on the store discussion for the two races and two classes you can't get unless you pay. Honestly though if you are new to DDO there's a ton of character customization options available to F2P players, it can be a little overwhelming if you don't do some research ahead of time to see what kind of character you want to end up with in terms of multiclassing, skills, feats, enhancements, etc..

  WeaponX

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9/08/09 11:34:28 AM#11

You have to pay for Drow and Warforge on the race and Monk and FS on the class but what he does not tell you is that if you creat a char and play you build up Turbine points or you can buy them but the build up is not a bad rate and you can then use those points to open up those class's and race's it takes awhile but can be done and then the only other stuff you need points for that are a must is the Adventure packs which you can get them all for 3375 points and if you buy points that would be $40 and you would have all the packs unlocked til they make more,

So with free softeware and no sub. you pay $40-$50 and can unlock all race/class/current content, that to me is a good deal if you like the game. The only reason I stoped playing was I made level cap and was not much else to do but that was back 6 months after release I am now playing again and haveing alot of fun.

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  mushizo

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9/08/09 11:41:22 AM#12

 he also forgot to mention that BEFORE the game went free 2 play, you wouldnt have been able to play the Drow Race or the Favored Soul class as your first character, since you needed to do decent amount of quests to build up the Faction/Reputation points in order to unlock the classes...

Anyone who downloads DDO and expects to get a FULL game with ALL features unlocked at the price of ZERO is very optimistic and very naive.

 

Its a great game for a small group of friends that enjoy playing together and solving puzzles and missions... especially if you're into character building and skill customization... DDO definetely has a great portion of that :)

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  WeaponX

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Live to Beta Test.

9/08/09 11:43:22 AM#13
Originally posted by mushizo

 he also forgot to mention that BEFORE the game went free 2 play, you wouldnt have been able to play the Drow Race or the Favored Soul class as your first character, since you needed to do decent amount of quests to build up the Faction/Reputation points in order to unlock the classes...

Anyone who downloads DDO and expects to get a FULL game with ALL features unlocked at the price of ZERO is very optimistic and very naive.

 

Its a great game for a small group of friends that enjoy playing together and solving puzzles and missions... especially if you're into character building and skill customization... DDO definetely has a great portion of that :)


 

Yep I agree me and 3 friends are haveing a great time with it.

Assassin's like to do it in the dark and from behind.

  User Deleted
9/08/09 2:43:31 PM#14

i cant belive people complain about a free to play, you should thank turbine for what they are doing..every one jsut want want wants

  User Deleted
 
9/08/09 4:54:16 PM#15
Originally posted by SgtFrog

i cant belive people complain about a free to play, you should thank turbine for what they are doing..every one jsut want want wants

 

A. Why would I thank Turbine for ruining the D&D ip as far as mmo's go?

B. The point of my post is that its not free to play to do a lot of things. So again, whats to thank?

  User Deleted
9/08/09 5:05:00 PM#16
Originally posted by dhayes68
Originally posted by SgtFrog

i cant belive people complain about a free to play, you should thank turbine for what they are doing..every one jsut want want wants

 

A. Why would I thank Turbine for ruining the D&D ip as far as mmo's go?

B. The point of my post is that its not free to play to do a lot of things. So again, whats to thank?

 

your not a payinf castomer, why would they give you all the content in the game.

they need to make money somehow...its not a charity and this system is much better than most free to play out there

  Rokurgepta

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Joined: 8/15/08
Posts: 1786

9/08/09 5:19:34 PM#17
Originally posted by dhayes68
Originally posted by erandur

Could you please tell me why you couldn't make a character? Are some classes VIP-only? People who never bought it can only start playing tomorrow, and i don't feel like wasting bandwidth if I can't make a decent charc...

I could make a char. I couldn't make the char I wanted for free.

Only took bout 1.5 hrs to download. check it out for yourself.


 

They need to make money somehow. Are you honestly rantint because it is not free enough to please a person who has already admitted to hating the game more than once? Are you trying to make me into a fanboy with this post?

  Rokurgepta

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9/08/09 5:22:50 PM#18
Originally posted by SgtFrog

i cant belive people complain about a free to play, you should thank turbine for what they are doing..every one jsut want want wants


 

Lets be real for a minute though. There is no need to thank a company for trying a new way to make money. Turbine did not go F2P/Hybrid out of the goodness of their heart of for charitable reasons. Turbine is trying this(and so far seems good) because DDO was in trouble.

  Rokurgepta

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9/08/09 5:24:41 PM#19
Originally posted by dhayes68
Originally posted by SgtFrog

i cant belive people complain about a free to play, you should thank turbine for what they are doing..every one jsut want want wants

 

A. Why would I thank Turbine for ruining the D&D ip as far as mmo's go?

B. The point of my post is that its not free to play to do a lot of things. So again, whats to thank?


 

Turbine has clearly stated from the behinning that this was not a full on F2P never have to pay to get stuff MMO change. If you failed to read or research you only have you to blame for not knowing the facts ahead of time.

  User Deleted
9/08/09 5:42:25 PM#20
Originally posted by Rokurgepta
Originally posted by SgtFrog

i cant belive people complain about a free to play, you should thank turbine for what they are doing..every one jsut want want wants


 

Lets be real for a minute though. There is no need to thank a company for trying a new way to make money. Turbine did not go F2P/Hybrid out of the goodness of their heart of for charitable reasons. Turbine is trying this(and so far seems good) because DDO was in trouble.

 

yes, but atleast they give you the option to do so, and you can buy what you see fit from the item shop.

you should thank them for giving you another way of paying for the game.

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