Aww man where do i start.. I'm not legit at all when I play mmos lol.. But ive hacked over 1k accounts diabllo 2 expansions, hundreds of wow accts that i still have most of them are pre-bc =/. I'm good now grew older but yeah thats the worse thing ive done is say hey here download this hack on www.yousucknoob.tk and you double click it gimme dat ip and shtuff. So i can have all ur goods :D:D.

Originally posted by Xariov

Ultima Online days were undoubtedly my most evil. Being a full-time Player Killer (PKer) naturally lent itself to evil acts but there were a few in particular that stood out/that I can still remember. From least evil to most evil:

3) I don't remember the specifics of it anymore but there was something at some point in time where you could killed yourself in town (with poisoned food or something, I don't remember) and then when people went to loot your body it was treated as a hostile act and the guards consequently came and killed them. By this time you'd have either run back from a pre-scoped-out healer or swapped to your other account standing nearby ready to loot. And because they performed a hostile act on your "innocent" body, their body was flagged and could be looted without repercussion. Good fun at banks.

2) I used to be part of this large guild that owned all of the buildings west of the mountains north west of Minoc. This was an awesome area as it had tons of animals with hides, relatively easy aggressive monsters, water for docking ships and a really really small chokepoint to get in to the place. We were quite an aggressive bunch and generally slaughtered any unrecognized player entering the area... and with a large guild, spanning multiple time-zones, there was usually someone around protecting our area. This was also back when you could do some dodgy trick to keep your reputation at a level where you could still enter town (Dark Lord??). We had a few run-ins with GMs who got annoyed at us for controlling the area but nothing ever came from it other than all of our houses missing their doors one day, heh (replaced the next). Anyway, at some point in time a rival guild appeared with a castle on the other side of the mountains with some ridiculously bad name like, "Lords of Death" or somesuch (actually, I'm pretty sure that was it). They started raiding us in groups and, while they were generally fought off, it did put a bit of a dent in our previously unmolested dominance.

They were quite smart too... never carrying runes or keys to their castle and despite camping outside for large periods of time, none of our members were able to catch them off-guard trying to enter (I think this was before house ownership, if that time ever existed [memory hazy] where a key = owner).

I had another character that I wasn't playing much at the time who had a decent build/skills and was unknown to them so I decided to do what any mischevous, scheming, Dark Lord would do and went through the motions to get myself in to their guild. This happened without too much difficulty and I played with them semi-full time for a week or so while staying in constant communication with my normal guildmates (gogo lack of tells and reliance on ICQ).

Anyway, rambling/backstory aside, the idea was basically to keep an eye on what they were doing and to report some occasion where a vulnerable/keyed (oh how they term means different things these days) member was available for slaughter. Turns out they ended up simply giving me a key to their castle (literally and metaphorically!). Key in hand, we waited until they were mostly all logged off and commenced our complete stripping of their property, dragging ridiculous amounts of logs and ore and whatever else across the ground to our area, amongst various other riches and oddities (lots of those obscure little items that appeared in the game from time to time). Needless to say, there was a LOT of aggression in their chat the next day and although never admitting to it, I was promptly booted out given the short period of time between key ownership and looting.

It all sounds kinda convoluted, admittedly, but it did happen and although it didn't seem like a big deal at the time, it is pretty awesome in retrospect, especially given how impossible such experiences are in modern MMOs.

1) Looking back on this I kind of cringe a little as it was quite exploitative and not something I'd feel comfortable doing these days but nonetheless it was immensely satisfying at the time and insanely profitable. Me and the friend I did it with purchased multiple towers (which remain my favourite building!) all over the map and had so much money there wasn't really much we could do with it.

Anyway, this properous time all happened in the wonderful city of Wind. For those who haven't played UO, this was a relatively out of the way underground city surrounded by dragons and liches and various other high level beasties. But they weren't really of much interest to us (though provoking dragons was also a fun and rather profitable pasttime). The best thing about Wind, however, was that in the middle of the city was a teleporter to a hidden garden filled with MASSIVE amounts of animals, rich for slaughtering and processing in to leather bras... or whatever it was that people made back in the day. This was considered a moneymaker's paradise as you could spend all day farming these animals, with very little danger from the few weak aggressive creatures in the area and in complete safety from any Player Killers. The city surrounding the garden meant that any of evil alignment entering it would get instantly slaughtered by guards, effectively making the garden PK-free.

While doing much the same as the other inhabitants of the gardens (killing/tailoring), quite by accident, and before we saw any widespread use of it anywhere else, we found that you could use a particular spell to kill other players without any negative reputation incurred upon oneself. This spell was Energy Vortex and it basically summoned an immensely powerful creature similar to an air elemental that would immediately start attacking whatever was closest to it (including you if you weren't careful). Given its chaotic/random nature and potential for self-harm, this spell wasn't treated as a targeted aggressive act and as such, with a bit of practice on how to ideally use it, could be used to slaughter all the other inhabitants of these gardens without getting you in bad standing with the guards of the city. And this thing did ridiculous damage, was almost inescapable and had a highly damaging poison to boot.

A bit slack, no doubt, but damn it was profitable. Given the sense of safety that visitors had in this area, they would always bring with them their most prized equipment (which wasn't much back in those days of UO... but still) and, more importantly, a LOT of them would have house keys and runes to their front door. Those that didn't have any of that more often than not at least had a backpack full of bras ready to be sold to vendors in town.

We usually sweeped the area, waited awhile, came back again later in the day and then did it again. Some people fought back but as they were mostly tradeskill-oriented characters, no one really put up a worthwhile fight... and with two of us, both strong characters using this ridiculous spell synchronously, most people didn't survive more than a couple of seconds.

I don't know why but the pickings never really dried up. People were nearly always there when we visited. I suppose that even with the occasional massacre, the area was still bountiful enough to be worth farming in.

We ended up with quite a number of GM reports and visits. A little jail time here and there but ultimately never any severely bad repercussions. Most of the time we, in our endless teenage maturity, responded to GM visits by repeating the bow animation over and over in front of them (I'm sure some people here remember what that simulated, heh). Actually, we usually did that to anyone who approached us in those gardens.. most of which were non-English speaking players. I don't recall many, if any, players ever understanding the insinuations of us doing this.

Also, as a side note, not necssarily evil... but one of my most enjoyable times in UO was way way back in the day when I had a 7x miner/blacksmith that also had 100 magic resistance (or whatever it was called), 100 magery and some other skills I can't remember. He had a couple of small houses in the middle of two heavily populated mining areas and would spend most of his day merrily mining away in a sash and kilt or blacksmith apron or other similarly amusing UO getup. Inevitably, and at multiple occasions throughout every play session, some wanna-be PKers would come along and attack in the hopes of scoring some free ores/house keys... and not once did any succeed (not gloating or anything, but moreso just noting how bad/off-guard they always were). Despite doing my fair share of miner killing back in the day, I never saw another miner (although I'm sure they were out there) with a similar skill set. Good times. :P.

This, of course, all goes with the standard stealth ambushes along main roads, dungeon slaughtering, house key looting, town guard aggro invoking and so forth.

 

 

God I miss old school UO.

Hey man, thanks for your 3rd post in about 5 years. I can tell you are the kind of person that only posts when you really. seriously need to say some cool stuff.  I I can recall posting in the long EQ thread and seeing a lot of UO discussion.  I never knew about that game, but it sounds badass.  I wish I coulda had a chance at playing it.

The story you told gave me a few good laughs. =)

Originally posted by skydragonren

Let's see a while back, I put 2 different characters into a rather large guild in wow. played with them several months, never letting anyone know I controlled both characters I had put in.

 

Worked my way up the ranks, and eventually gained the trust of the GM to have access to all guild bank tabs.

I robbed the bank while noone was on a xferred off the server with character 1.

Waited quietly for 5 days for blizzard to replace all the items that had been stolen. Then I took character 2 and did it again.

It was mean, but the gold was great!

Thanks for the fish.

Now THAT was clever!

I was the douche stealing everything you in own in UO. A grandmaster stalker was I. Your inventory? Mine. Everything in your house? Mine. Your house? (when you could "steal" those) Mine.

 Xariov awesome awesome stuff :) and yeah I was damn he has only posted 3-4 in 5 years but boy when he does its worth it!

Only two things really stand out for me and both involve the early years of UO.

I played UO for years and never once thought about trying my hand at being a PKer. In fact, I once even started up an Anti-PK guild and racked up more than a few kills.

One day I found myself bored and decided to give it a go. I created a new character on a Japanese Server(possibly Korean) with starting combat skills. Because a lot of people, especially crafters, played non-combat characters I knew I'd be able to prey on the miners that frequented the area north of Britain. I made my way to this area and sure enough I ran into a female character that didn't have any armor or weapons on her. I attacked and despite already feeling pretty bad about it, chased her down as she ran for the safety of the city and managed to kill her. I then looted everything she had which included mainly just a lot of crafting material and resources.

Almost immediately I started to feel terribly guilty despite the fact that she didn't really have much on her and that it was just a game. I headed into the city when I lost my criminal status and managed to find her near the bank. What really made me feel bad about this and qualifies it, for me at least, as an evil act is that she took off running when she saw me leading me to believe she was a complete newbie not to realize she was safe in town. I had to chase her almost the entire length of the city before I could get her to stop long enough to return all her things. I wasn't able to get a response out of her at all even when I apologized which led me to believe the person playing the character didn't know English at all. All this added together made me feel as if I had chased down and killed a frightened little girl or something similar. After that I no longer attempted to PK anyone in UO or the many games I've played since.

The second thing was probably the more "Evil" of the two but is more of a regret than a guilt kind of thing. Basically I was running around with a newbie character on a shard I don't normally play on for some such reason or another and found myself on the large Ice Island that could only be reached by boat or rune. I think I was just gate hopping around the Britain Bank and followed someone to their home. Anywho, I started exploring the island mostly to check out player homes and such to see the different designs when I noticed a Red PK name off the screen. At first I started to run out of reflex, but then I realized it didn't really matter if I lived or died and it might be fun to see what would happen if I approached. As I got closer, however, I realized it wasn't just one PK but almost twenty of them as well as at least 10-20 other non-PKs. Even closer I realized that I had come across a massive in-game wedding taking place between a PK Bride and a PK Groom. I decided to squeeze my way to the front by walking through a spectator, waiting for my stamina to refill, and walking through the next person until I found myself standing immediately next to the Bride as she stood at the "altar". Possibly because I was still seeking a bit of a thrill after realizing none of these PKs were going to harm me unprovoked I decided to attack the bride in the middle of the ceremony. At first, because we were all packed together, I was standing in the same space as someone else with much larger clothing, I was just using a dagger, and because there were a lot of horses making random noises no one realized what was happening. Normally she would have been able to kill me in just a few hits but she was completely unarmed for the ceremony and I guess she wasn't carrying anything in her pack either. After 10-20 seconds the bride said something like "Someone is attacking me, help me!". Even then there were  just too many players to realize what exactly was going on and I took this time to fade back into the players behind me one at a time.

Because I hadn't really done much damage and I had stopped on my own she didn't pursue it and no one else realized I was the one responsible. Once I managed to get away from the crowd I took off a bit and hid. Eventually some of them came looking for me but they passed me by and I managed to escape unharmed.

Now obviously this wasn't a memorial(I attended two for players who died in Real Life during my years playing UO) and I absolutely would never have done anything like this if it had been one, but I still feel this was one of the worse things I have ever done in an MMO. Even though I didn't do any real damage and didn't even really upset the ceremony except for the bride, I still feel like this makes me a complete ass to have tainted the experience for someone else.

Originally posted by Laserwolf

Only two things really stand out for me and both involve the early years of UO.

I played UO for years and never once thought about trying my hand at being a PKer. In fact, I once even started up an Anti-PK guild and racked up more than a few kills.

One day I found myself bored and decided to give it a go. I created a new character on a Japanese Server(possibly Korean) with starting combat skills. Because a lot of people, especially crafters, played non-combat characters I knew I'd be able to prey on the miners that frequented the area north of Britain. I made my way to this area and sure enough I ran into a female character that didn't have any armor or weapons on her. I attacked and despite already feeling pretty bad about it, chased her down as she ran for the safety of the city and managed to kill her. I then looted everything she had which included mainly just a lot of crafting material and resources.

Almost immediately I started to feel terribly guilty despite the fact that she didn't really have much on her and that it was just a game. I headed into the city when I lost my criminal status and managed to find her near the bank. What really made me feel bad about this and qualifies it, for me at least, as an evil act is that she took off running when she saw me leading me to believe she was a complete newbie not to realize she was safe in town. I had to chase her almost the entire length of the city before I could get her to stop long enough to return all her things. I wasn't able to get a response out of her at all even when I apologized which led me to believe the person playing the character didn't know English at all. All this added together made me feel as if I had chased down and killed a frightened little girl or something similar. After that I no longer attempted to PK anyone in UO or the many games I've played since.

 

The second thing was probably the more "Evil" of the two but is more of a regret than a guilt kind of thing. Basically I was running around with a newbie character on a shard I don't normally play on for some such reason or another and found myself on the large Ice Island that could only be reached by boat or rune. I think I was just gate hopping around the Britain Bank and followed someone to their home. Anywho, I started exploring the island mostly to check out player homes and such to see the different designs when I noticed a Red PK name off the screen. At first I started to run out of reflex, but then I realized it didn't really matter if I lived or died and it might be fun to see what would happen if I approached. As I got closer, however, I realized it wasn't just one PK but almost twenty of them as well as at least 10-20 other non-PKs. Even closer I realized that I had come across a massive in-game wedding taking place between a PK Bride and a PK Groom. I decided to squeeze my way to the front by walking through a spectator, waiting for my stamina to refill, and walking through the next person until I found myself standing immediately next to the Bride as she stood at the "altar". Possibly because I was still seeking a bit of a thrill after realizing none of these PKs were going to harm me unprovoked I decided to attack the bride in the middle of the ceremony. At first, because we were all packed together, I was standing in the same space as someone else with much larger clothing, I was just using a dagger, and because there were a lot of horses making random noises no one realized what was happening. Normally she would have been able to kill me in just a few hits but she was completely unarmed for the ceremony and I guess she wasn't carrying anything in her pack either. After 10-20 seconds the bride said something like "Someone is attacking me, help me!". Even then there were  just too many players to realize what exactly was going on and I took this time to fade back into the players behind me one at a time.

Because I hadn't really done much damage and I had stopped on my own she didn't pursue it and no one else realized I was the one responsible. Once I managed to get away from the crowd I took off a bit and hid. Eventually some of them came looking for me but they passed me by and I managed to escape unharmed.

Now obviously this wasn't a memorial(I attended two for players who died in Real Life during my years playing UO) and I absolutely would never have done anything like this if it had been one, but I still feel this was one of the worse things I have ever done in an MMO. Even though I didn't do any real damage and didn't even really upset the ceremony except for the bride, I still feel like this makes me a complete ass to have tainted the experience for someone else.

WOW your first one made me even feel bad lol and I wasn't even there :)

Originally posted by Acornia

My worst was also part of my duty at the time.  A person was talking about mission related info in game back during first Desert Storm.  Turned him over to OSI and he is now serving an 20 year term.

Hang on a sec, I had to do a double-take here when I saw this.

If what this guy says is true, then this is truly the most evil thing done in this thread, hands down.

You ratted out a fellow soldier and he is now serving 20 years behind bars... wtf...

Originally posted by Bigdavo

Originally posted by Acornia

My worst was also part of my duty at the time.  A person was talking about mission related info in game back during first Desert Storm.  Turned him over to OSI and he is now serving an 20 year term.

 

Hang on a sec, I had to do a double-take here when I saw this.

If what this guy says is true, then this is truly the most evil thing done in this thread, hands down.

You ratted out a fellow soldier and he is now serving 20 years behind bars... wtf...

Yeah I had actually read that and forgot to comment on it....I think I was hoping it was BS but if its the truth you forgot one of  the most important rules of the military or atleast it was in the Marines back in the day. Keep it in the ranks!

I don't really get why some of you guys feel bad about killing some avatar in a game though, all you're doing is showing them the ruleset.

If people are informed and play smart they won't get killed, so if someone showes up and kills my avatar I just think of it as a learning. If anything I might get annoyed with myself, the person attacking is just playing the game.

So I can't really remember feeling bad about killing anyone in PvP.

 One guy tried to gank me in WoW. I killed him. I waited for him to respawn and killed him again. I camped and wtfpwned him 10 more times, until he started to /cry, /beg, /kneel me. I killed him 2 more times after this.

Beware: Wall-of-Text!
 

When I play an mmo, I usually play with two of my best friends (that actually plays games).

We have these internal pranks we like to pull on eachother, so what happened just recently (Read: last night), is that we were playing the Aion open beta which we're all looking forward to. Then one of my two friends decided to have a bathroom break. Fine, we're used to it. So he turns on follow-mode on my friend and leaves.

As soon as we hear the door shut behind him (he has speakers and voice activated VoIP), we start plotting our next move.

Turns out, Aion doesn't want people to swim (It doesn't support swimming, which is odd IMHO when you can fly... with wings..), so we put him on an island only reachable by gliding from a cliff.

Im sure most of you are intelligent enough to imagine what happened. But just in case, he had to sit there for 16 minutes while his return spell was on cooldown.

We didn't feel bad, because this usually happens everytime we link up. I am only concerned, and quite frankly  a bit excited about what he/they will do to me the next time I decide to go AFK. Because I know it's only a matter of time.

I may also add that during this Aion session last night, that same friend and me were trying to find the same respawnable item.

Fair enough, we "should" take turns looting it. We needed six items. So I know he will beat me, because I tend to have a bit of delay due to low bandwidth.

BUT! I am more responsive when playing, as he tends to read online magazines while waiting. I use it to my advantage, I start pulling mobs towards me, then run out of the chase-range (the range it takes before mobs give up). And since we were in a group, they go to the closest groupmember. Which in turn is him of course.

I then see he is able to fight of the two mobs I agroed, and the time has come for the item to respawn. Do I give up and face defeat? Never!

I pull a second set of mobs and let him have it, he dies. It's safe to say that I was well on my way back to camp when he finished his.

Originally posted by kazed2k

BUT! I am more responsive when playing, as he tends to read online magazines while waiting. I use it to my advantage, I start pulling mobs towards me, then run out of the chase-range (the range it takes before mobs give up). And since we were in a group, they go to the closest groupmember. Which in turn is him of course.

I then see he is able to fight of the two mobs I agroed, and the time has come for the item to respawn. Do I give up and face defeat? Never!

I pull a second set of mobs and let him have it, he dies. It's safe to say that I was well on my way back to camp when he finished his.

You sound like this jerk I played WAR with last night. We were out doing quests in one area and all of a sudden, he is running around, aggroing every troll he can find and then he does an AoE that transfers their aggro to me (an Engineer). Needless to say, I ran like a school girl after laying down the barbed wire.

 I was playing in a pick up group before going to work one day, and the group I was in were telling me and a friend how they found this cool program they were using that allowed them to run really fast and fly. Then these four guys I was grouped with decided to demonstrate - and they were warping and flying all over the place. I told them to stop, because it was obviously against the rules.

They told me that gm's in the game were worthless, and they would not do anything.

Well, I left for work. Apparently, the guys didn't stop using their hack, and my friend sent an appeal to the gm's.

I was a gm! As soon as I got to work, my friend's appeal popped up. I didn't take it, as we are not supposed to take appeals from friends. (My friend didn't even know I was a gm). So, I called over my boss. He investigated and permanently banned the four mental giants.

Wasn't really mean of me to do . . as I didn't really do anything at all. But I thought it was funny.

Originally posted by Kelsonmac

 I was playing in a pick up group before going to work one day, and the group I was in were telling me and a friend how they found this cool program they were using that allowed them to run really fast and fly. Then these four guys I was grouped with decided to demonstrate - and they were warping and flying all over the place. I told them to stop, because it was obviously against the rules.

They told me that gm's in the game were worthless, and they would not do anything.

Well, I left for work. Apparently, the guys didn't stop using their hack, and my friend sent an appeal to the gm's.

I was a gm! As soon as I got to work, my friend's appeal popped up. I didn't take it, as we are not supposed to take appeals from friends. (My friend didn't even know I was a gm). So, I called over my boss. He investigated and permanently banned the four mental giants.

Wasn't really mean of me to do . . as I didn't really do anything at all. But I thought it was funny.

not on topic ....but can I have your stuff? (just wanted to ask a gm that) :)

Originally posted by Bigdavo

Originally posted by Acornia

My worst was also part of my duty at the time.  A person was talking about mission related info in game back during first Desert Storm.  Turned him over to OSI and he is now serving an 20 year term.

 

Hang on a sec, I had to do a double-take here when I saw this.

If what this guy says is true, then this is truly the most evil thing done in this thread, hands down.

You ratted out a fellow soldier and he is now serving 20 years behind bars... wtf...

What are you talking about? There's nothing evil about this?

We need more people like you man...One less assassin off the streets...

That soldier swore an oath.  He broke that oath, DURING WARTIME WTF, he deserves to do his time in a military jail.  The guy that turned him in (shitty as it is) actually did an honorable job of protecting his country.  People that didn't grow up in the military, or that have never served will not get this mindset, because you have the mentality of a normal plebian citizen. gg

The OSI are ninjas, and they have always scared the shit out of me.  That guy who spouted off the intel over the internet was probably trying to be cool and flex some type of e-peen which landed him 20 years.... rofflez.

my top evil thing in an MMO is evil on several levels-  I came home from a night out extremely drunk and decided to log into my game.  the only other person online in my guild was a younger player who I didnt really care for, not really a bad person just young and obnoxious.  I somehow wound up in a conversation in /tells with him, and said some horrible things to him.  While this conversation was going on, I was also recording a macro I was going to use to exploit PL some alt characters for myself and some friends.  Apparently I lasted long enough to get the macro recorded and the exploit group set up and passed out.

When I woke up the next day and turned on my moniter, I got to see that my character had spent the night and most of the morning spouting hate tells to anyone that spoke to me because i had been using the /reply command the night before and everything I said got recorded into the macro. 

Originally posted by LtJohnnyRico

Originally posted by kazed2k

BUT! I am more responsive when playing, as he tends to read online magazines while waiting. I use it to my advantage, I start pulling mobs towards me, then run out of the chase-range (the range it takes before mobs give up). And since we were in a group, they go to the closest groupmember. Which in turn is him of course.

I then see he is able to fight of the two mobs I agroed, and the time has come for the item to respawn. Do I give up and face defeat? Never!

I pull a second set of mobs and let him have it, he dies. It's safe to say that I was well on my way back to camp when he finished his.

 

You sound like this jerk I played WAR with last night. We were out doing quests in one area and all of a sudden, he is running around, aggroing every troll he can find and then he does an AoE that transfers their aggro to me (an Engineer). Needless to say, I ran like a school girl after laying down the barbed wire.

Im usually quite nice when playing with / meeting people I don't know in-game. But when you know someone from your childhood, it's ok as long as it's mutual, imo. But I see your point.

On a sidenote, I do like seeing players heads over heels like a schoolgirl... :)

Because what they say is true, pain is temporary, glory is forever!

In UO, I used to hang out in the dungeon Deceit and kill and loot everyone who came near me. I did this for hours every day for many months. Sometimes I would switch up my hunting spots, but I would always kill innocent players and jack all of their gear.

Sometimes I would resurrect people, apologize, and give their stuff back, only to then kill them again. For some reason, I thought this was hilarious at the time. In hindsight I see that I was a bit of an douche back then...

But I have never had more fun in an MMORPG than I did being an evil bastard in that game.