I enjoy how we have given 8 pages to a troll.
it cracks me up :D

Originally posted by Scrambled

I enjoy how we have given 8 pages to a troll.
it cracks me up :D

well given that they only have like 10 servers and can't keep them up shows something. They should have seen it coming?

I'm sure this has been said before, but just for added clarification:

DON'T LET THE DOOR HIT YA ON THE WAY OUT!!! :)

to the op. if your going to cancel a PREORDER to a game because BETA isent running so hot for you... well i would have to say the best part of you ran down your mothers leg... USELESS posts like yours with no info or reason just "WAAHHHH the servers are messed up durring a beta WAHHHH i need a hug from my mommy.." make me sick. so please... unless you can grow a half of a brain please.. end your life.. these forums... this planet... and the mmorpg community will be a better life without a waste of sperm such as yourself....

I enjoy the game and I will play it on release, but I feel I should defend the "trolls" a little.

This is not really an open beta, as it is neither really open nor really a beta.  If by "open" one means that people pay to get an invite, then it is open.  If by "beta-testing" one means running software that is basically a port of an existing game to paying players in a new market, then I guess it is beta.

This is a problem arising from the crazy way that MMORPGs are marketed today.  Access to beta-testing has become something that companies actually sell as  a premium.  The customers oddly expect something playable in return, and get frustrated over little things like being unable to download, install, log into the game, etc. 

When numerous people complain that they cannot perform the most basic functions of an online gaming service (installation, logging in, freezing in lagstorms, etc.) two weeks before launch of a major game, it is not a positive sign.

Oh, btw, the reason that I am here is that the Aion login servers seem to be down again.  I intend to play this sucker and play it hard once it has released (I have been in previous betas) but I understand why people might not be encouraged.

OP i have no sympathy for you at all and am glad your dumb*** is leaving my community! I hope the community in this game does not end up as bad as the one in WoW and with you leaving it just brings my hopes that much closer to coming true! If you fail to understand that Beta is game testing and not a free trial you fail at all MMO's and life.

Personally I think Aion, rocks the only problem I had with the game at the time was that you couldn't lock your skill bar, but now that you can my complaints are over.

Originally posted by JudgeRoyBean

Originally posted by MrPhire

Originally posted by JudgeRoyBean

Originally posted by taurak

Aion is having some server issues...

God forbid the servers arent perfect for an open beta that you should be happy to get a chance to play in.

Did you ever try the WoW open beta? It was much much worse. Hell I remember after WoW released soem servers were down for a full week while we were paying for the game. Some servers in WoW still crash constantly. Remember the release of Ulduar when nobody could zone in even?

These problems are not unique to Aion. Dont even sit there and try to say things like that.

Game guard and programs like that DO cause issues sometimes when they get updated. The game guard Aion uses was updated right before beta, and they need to fix the issues with it. I know they are working on a fix, and that is really all they can do.

Maybe if you are such an amazing person you can snap your fingers and fix the network problem...

 

I also remember WOW wasn't released for almost a year before their open beta. Pull your head out of your ass. There is no way that this game (for almost a year in operation) should be stumbling out of the gate 2 weeks before release. This is a major punch in the gut for NCsoft. I just logged out of Aion, and it is currently unplayable. Total lagfest.  NCsoft is acting like they have never opened a MMO server before. And for this game to be operating this long, in this kind of shape is unexcuseable.

You can apologize for NCsoft all you want, but the fact is, NCsoft really SHAT the bed on this one.

It was released for 8 months in CHINA. Not the networking company in america. CHINA! We don't connect to that server. And if we did you'd lag even worse. Ignorance is an option not a god given trait of humanity.

 

China?!?!

Are you kidding? I tell you what, Commrad. Why don't you just worry about all those civilians you killed in Tiananmen Square and leave freedom of speech to Americans.

Bottom line is, NCsoft screwed the pooch with Open Beta. Beta boards are stating that 90% in NA cant log on or is unplayable.  This is NOT success.

Comrade, if it's true they screwed the pooch, they must be reported to peta-beta (or is is beta-peta?) immediately!
 

Move to Europe, problem solved  :D

I'm very disapointed that there have been network issues and lag this weekend.  But after playing in the last couple closed beta's with perfect performance, I'm confident that they will resolve these issues in a couple of days.

 This is actually a good troll post...Its not like our trying to hide behind a point or anything. Just unfiltered raw trollism with now fake point. /clap for being true to yourself.

I'm shocked at the lag / server being down issues happening now. I played through 2 different CB events as I bought the collector's edition after a friend highly recommended the game to me. During my time CB I had nothing to complain about it was extremely well polished and completely bug free as well as the servers were stable.

From what I seen previously I wouldn't judge your purchase of this game on just these server issues as they are probably tweaking things and doing stress testing eventually they will be up and running flawlessly. The game however is the most bug free experience I think that NA Gamers will ever get at a MMORPG launch. NCsoft isn't going to be pulling any crap with major gameplay changes at launch or tweaking major aspects of the game. What I played from the CB to now hasn't changed at all except for the server problems.

NCsoft has the advantage of this game being out in Asia for a year and it really shows as we are being offered a *finished* mmorpg game. All the gripes that us NA gamers have had with MMOs launches won't be there at the launch for Aion except for balancing which I've read a few Korean players posts a month or so about them on this forum and actually decided on on what classes I'm rolling because of their comments (btw thanks for the headsup !) Then again even WoW still has balancing issues so they really doesn't bother me.

www.youtube.com/watch - Aion Content Patch 1.5 released in Asia Recently.

- New instances
- Added a New Crafting profession
- New items
- New Character Customization Options (This is what they referred to as having "western appeal")

Guess what version of the game we are testing right now? Yes, 1.5 ! Not only are we getting a probably perfect smooth MMO launch but also a ton of end game content which is normally missing from MMO launches.

I don't see a single thing to complain about at all as all I see is positives with Aion and I plan on it keeping me busy until SW:TOR comes out.

 

Originally posted by Beachcomber

Move to Europe, problem solved  :D

I think this is the only answer, also the girls are way hotter

Im playing on the European servers, and we have had the same downtime, lag, GG issues etc as the US.

As this is infact on Open Beta i can live with this issues as it is what it is, apart from that i am really enjoying the game and find it very immersive so far.

Sorry the OP had such a bad experience, maybe wait a few weeks until after release for the main issues to be ironed out and have another go, if not theres loads more mmo's to have a go at.

Originally posted by Baseline

This open beta is nothing more than a display of NCSoft's incompetence.

These kinds of results in an "open beta" (bs marketing term for free preview when it's this close to live) that is not even truly open is utterly ridiculous. I'm canceling my pre-order.

Enjoy the inevitable mass-exodus cancellation woosh within the first month or two, a la AOC and Warhammer.

Quite sad. I pity those of you that have experienced other hyped-up marketing masterpieces such as AOC and Warhammer and still have the blindness to give another company another undeserved $60.

Good luck. I can think of a hundred better things to do with my money than give it to these modern-era art counterfeiters, because that's all they are, is a bunch of people taking rehashed unoriginal non-innovative crap, branding it as their own, and then not even having the decency to make an effort to assure that it all runs smoothly. All while asking us for money.

No thanks.

You where stupid to pre-order in the first place. Very little digging would show that NCsosft has said countless time that they are not reinventing the wheel. Long before they offered pre-orders.

As Aion is not reinventing the wheel, however, they have quite a few innovations that are new to the genre, and some of the innovations are only innovations because of the way that they are put in along with other features.

You where looking for innovative? Well here is aion. Nothing completely new, but everything done better and in ways that no other mmo has done it before with this kind of blend.

 Go look up the word innovative. You will find it is quite different then "Invent". The prime difference is that in order to innovate, you can use previously existing products and make them better. Wheres to invent, it is entirely your own. GL getting a mmo that invented everything from the rings of jupiter. Oh wait, that wouldn't be new either, the space genre/planets are all recycled ideas.

Word to the wise, aion is reaking of innovations.

Originally posted by Morgaren

Sorry I forgot to mention this, but I think it deserves to be said, that not all of the problems that were experienced by people is soley their fault, I understand that NCSoft has some issues to work out too, my point is/was, that your experience does not denote everyones, and if you play lots of MMO's and see lots of lag in each one, look at the lowest common denominator.

I play lots of MMOs.

Currently I have active accounts on SWG + Station Pass, EQ2, CoH, and WoW.

After a couple of hours of rubber banding all over the place in Aion, I went through and logged on to WoW, SWG, and CoH... This may come as a surprise, but NO, there was no lag on any of the above.

I'm not an NCsoft hater. I've enjoyed CoH/CoV for years. I played it in the pre-release beta, and while there were some teeny bugs here and there, it wasn't a lagfest like Aion has been yesterday/today. 

I want very much for this to be resolved and Aion to do well, because I think it has a lot of potential. But all the Aion fanboys who want to sit around blaming people's computers and blaming people's ISPs are so full of crap. 

The issues aren't with my system or my ISP.  I guarantee you that.

I bought Aion pre-order, so I'm hoping for the best.

STOP trying to take the blame off of NC though. You're wrong.

 edit: I don't mean you specifically Morgaren, I mean the people who are trying to blame everyone BUT NCsoft... 

Originally posted by Catbones13

Originally posted by Morgaren

Sorry I forgot to mention this, but I think it deserves to be said, that not all of the problems that were experienced by people is soley their fault, I understand that NCSoft has some issues to work out too, my point is/was, that your experience does not denote everyones, and if you play lots of MMO's and see lots of lag in each one, look at the lowest common denominator.

 

I play lots of MMOs.

Currently I have active accounts on SWG + Station Pass, EQ2, CoH, and WoW.

After a couple of hours of rubber banding all over the place in Aion, I went through and logged on to WoW, SWG, and CoH... This may come as a surprise, but NO, there was no lag on any of the above.

I'm not an NCsoft hater. I've enjoyed CoH/CoV for years. I played it in the pre-release beta, and while there were some teeny bugs here and there, it wasn't a lagfest like Aion has been yesterday/today. 

I want very much for this to be resolved and Aion to do well, because I think it has a lot of potential. But all the Aion fanboys who want to sit around blaming people's computers and blaming people's ISPs are so full of crap. 

The issues aren't with my system or my ISP.  I guarantee you that.

I bought Aion pre-order, so I'm hoping for the best.

STOP trying to take the blame off of NC though. You're wrong.

 

Yep it is def NCsofts problem, so I am leaving them to fix it. They have a couple weeks to sort it out anyhow. Good thing this isn't a release right? I think people should pipe down a little with the nerdrage though. I can understand critisism, but some of the stuff people are saying is going way to far for a in-beta issue.

Naysayers can look no further than Ayase's twitter page where he mentions the mass lag is priority to be resolved.
 

Aion OBT.

We found errors and issues with launching the game, which are mostly resolved. 

We stress test the servers and now NCsoft knows what to expect on launch.

Routing issue from ISP side that have been resolved, and might still being resolved for some.

I don't know what the OP is talking about, this OBT did everything it is suppose to do.  If someone believe CBT and OBT are simply pre-views, trailer, or a demo to the game.  They should stay away from MMORPG, or even games all together.

I seen much much worse, and that is on launch.  This is only OBT.

I give the OP a rating of 2 trolls down.

Edit:  Responding to some previous repliers.  Some of your issues that you do not believe to be ISP related, actually is if you are experiencing lag, rubberbanding, and disconnects in the game.

If you are experiecing login issues with User name password, that is something either NCsoft side or your error.

If you expereienced false-error reports from Gameguard, there are alot of solutions to teach you how to patch it on Aionsource already.  People with actual software conflict with Gameguard are actually a minority, most of it was a patching issue, and GG simply gave out a warning.  People with extra firewall softwares (god knows why they need them) are the ones suffering from the conflict for the most part.

Originally posted by taurak

Aion is having some server issues...

God forbid the servers arent perfect for an open beta that you should be happy to get a chance to play in.

Did you ever try the WoW open beta? It was much much worse. Hell I remember after WoW released soem servers were down for a full week while we were paying for the game. Some servers in WoW still crash constantly. Remember the release of Ulduar when nobody could zone in even?

These problems are not unique to Aion. Dont even sit there and try to say things like that.

Game guard and programs like that DO cause issues sometimes when they get updated. The game guard Aion uses was updated right before beta, and they need to fix the issues with it. I know they are working on a fix, and that is really all they can do.

Maybe if you are such an amazing person you can snap your fingers and fix the network problem...

First, Aion is a live game and one touted as pretty polished so having massive network troubles during a new market open beta is pretty lame.  second, GameGuard is a known POS and, arguably, a rootkit so they get no waivers there.

That being said, it is unfair to pan the game based on the first day or two of OB, for a game that is essentially live or one just approaching live.  However, if NCsoft doesn't do some serious work in a very short amount of time to correct these issues then the game will deserve some serious criticism.

Originally posted by Baseline

This open beta is nothing more than a display of NCSoft's incompetence.

These kinds of results in an "open beta" (bs marketing term for free preview when it's this close to live) that is not even truly open is utterly ridiculous. I'm canceling my pre-order.

Enjoy the inevitable mass-exodus cancellation woosh within the first month or two, a la AOC and Warhammer.

Quite sad. I pity those of you that have experienced other hyped-up marketing masterpieces such as AOC and Warhammer and still have the blindness to give another company another undeserved $60.

Good luck. I can think of a hundred better things to do with my money than give it to these modern-era art counterfeiters, because that's all they are, is a bunch of people taking rehashed unoriginal non-innovative crap, branding it as their own, and then not even having the decency to make an effort to assure that it all runs smoothly. All while asking us for money.

No thanks.

You've never been in betas before very recently, have you?

Every game has issues in beta. That's why it's still the beta and not release, genius.