i dont like this game!

but i got one interrogation 

can the pvp system be good enough 

to do like gw.

lets face it ,we get graphic nice but as loto f game before this ,it isnt enough 

hell wow is still one of the top mmo and graphic are easy mode

so the only missing number here is the pvp 

can pvp do the impossible.beats me ?

i dont think so ,for one reason 

guild wars 2 !yes its still far away but if a game most wanted thing is pvp 

it better be insanelly addictive ,is it?

from what we can find (very little im afraid)

aion look like the past to the korean 

but is it REALLY?

IM NOT SO SURE !

player like to fight against each others 

and a LOT of player that played for months could probably be resting ?

the thing i dont know is is the server system a global serv system or just regular usa server ,uk server ,korean server etc

one thing is sure when gw made world event a possibility in gw it openned something that player love 

the chance to fight against korean ,japanese,chinese ,russian etc

will it be the same with aion .

i will assume ncsoft will do it like gw 

if it is like gw then this game may become more popular the wow 

if its world wide!

if its only separate area of the world server 

then im sorry to say but gw2 will chew it within a week of gw2 release

but if they use same way as gw  pvp used

mm ncsoft might mix the mmo industry in ways not forseen

Aion is designed to be PvP centric game, one of it's biggest original focus is PvP in the Abyss as the game's core design.  From what I have experienced so far, it is a good system.  It is not really similar to GW, but in terms of PvP i can be confident it will be more fun than WoW for me.

Problem is if someone is use to skill trees and builds to one shot or dominate other players, Aion's design is different from that.  It is designed to balance out all classes and let the battle drag on longer, so whoever play their cards right are the ones who will be more successful in PvP.  It is not always the person with the best gears who wins, but gears sure do help a little bit.  In the end the winner is the one that make better judgements when in PvP situations.  Of course that is all after level 25-30 since that is where class balance kick in correctly.

Originally posted by drbaltazar

i dont like this game!

but i got one interrogation 

can the pvp system be good enough 

to do like gw.

lets face it ,we get graphic nice but as loto f game before this ,it isnt enough 

hell wow is still one of the top mmo and graphic are easy mode

so the only missing number here is the pvp 

can pvp do the impossible.beats me ?

i dont think so ,for one reason 

guild wars 2 !yes its still far away but if a game most wanted thing is pvp 

it better be insanelly addictive ,is it?

from what we can find (very little im afraid)

aion look like the past to the korean 

but is it REALLY?

IM NOT SO SURE !

player like to fight against each others 

and a LOT of player that played for months could probably be resting ?

the thing i dont know is is the server system a global serv system or just regular usa server ,uk server ,korean server etc

one thing is sure when gw made world event a possibility in gw it openned something that player love 

the chance to fight against korean ,japanese,chinese ,russian etc

will it be the same with aion .

i will assume ncsoft will do it like gw 

if it is like gw then this game may become more popular the wow 

if its world wide!

if its only separate area of the world server 

then im sorry to say but gw2 will chew it within a week of gw2 release

but if they use same way as gw  pvp used

mm ncsoft might mix the mmo industry in ways not forseen

Is this the interwebz version of iambic pentameter?

My thoughts are not to judge Aion too quickly. Aion is a young game that hasn't even come out here in the West yet. The proper way to compare it would be one of three ways.

1. Compare WOW and Aion where they were after one year of retail.

2. Wait until Aion has been out 5+ years and see how much (if any) it grew.

3. Polish and smoothness at launch.

To compare a game that was out 5 years to a new game isn't fair.

I think Aion is right on track. The only thing I want to see more of is zones. Otherwise it looks like it should do well and be very successful. Trust me, I am not being biased. I loved WOW and played it for years. I have nothing bad to say about it besides it being way too addictive to me, lol. I'm just saying I think Aion will be a great game as well.

It depends on what you like in PvP. If you're someone who like quick mini game and battlegrounds then you wont like Aion's PvP

If you like large scale fights over  castles and small mobile group PvP throughout a zone, then AION is your game

Don't think aions PvP will even have a chane of being as sucessful as WoWs The combat is to slow, There is not DR system like in WoW, I mean i kited a gladiator for 20min+ on my ranger in the chiniese version of the game before i got him down. Theres really nothing that really requires skill a clicker can be just as sucessful as a person with keybindings since everything takes so god damn much time to do and i really hated the instant cast things in aion i mean If a spell says its instant cast time i should be able to run and do it not press the ability my character stands still shoots the skill then keep on running. Aion is a good game and i enjoy playing it but if i want some PvP action ill just log on my priest and play some arenas, Sure wow is corrupted and the arenas and BGs are a zerg fest basiclly, But WoWs pvp is alot more competative then aions imo, I will still play both the games tho since i'm kinda tierd of WoW atm.
Well i guess ill just go put on my flame cloak before i get a nasty burn.

Originally posted by linren

Aion is designed to be PvP centric game, one of it's biggest original focus is PvP in the Abyss as the game's core design.  From what I have experienced so far, it is a good system.  It is not really similar to GW, but in terms of PvP i can be confident it will be more fun than WoW for me.

Problem is if someone is use to skill trees and builds to one shot or dominate other players, Aion's design is different from that.  It is designed to balance out all classes and let the battle drag on longer, so whoever play their cards right are the ones who will be more successful in PvP.  It is not always the person with the best gears who wins, but gears sure do help a little bit.  In the end the winner is the one that make better judgements when in PvP situations.  Of course that is all after level 25-30 since that is where class balance kick in correctly.

from your point of view,is this game using global way of pvp like in gw you could end up fighting with korean ,russian etc 

is this like this here or no its just usa vs usa,russian vs russian etc?

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Originally posted by drbaltazar
i dont like this game!
but i got one interrogation 
can the pvp system be good enough 
to do like gw.
lets face it ,we get graphic nice but as loto f game before this ,it isnt enough 
hell wow is still one of the top mmo and graphic are easy mode
so the only missing number here is the pvp 
can pvp do the impossible.beats me ?
i dont think so ,for one reason 
guild wars 2 !yes its still far away but if a game most wanted thing is pvp 
it better be insanelly addictive ,is it?
from what we can find (very little im afraid)
aion look like the past to the korean 
but is it REALLY?
IM NOT SO SURE !
player like to fight against each others 
and a LOT of player that played for months could probably be resting ?
the thing i dont know is is the server system a global serv system or just regular usa server ,uk server ,korean server etc
one thing is sure when gw made world event a possibility in gw it openned something that player love 
the chance to fight against korean ,japanese,chinese ,russian etc
will it be the same with aion .
i will assume ncsoft will do it like gw 
if it is like gw then this game may become more popular the wow 
if its world wide!
if its only separate area of the world server 
then im sorry to say but gw2 will chew it within a week of gw2 release
but if they use same way as gw  pvp used
mm ncsoft might mix the mmo industry in ways not forseen

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/fail

Originally posted by drbaltazar

Originally posted by linren

Aion is designed to be PvP centric game, one of it's biggest original focus is PvP in the Abyss as the game's core design.  From what I have experienced so far, it is a good system.  It is not really similar to GW, but in terms of PvP i can be confident it will be more fun than WoW for me.

Problem is if someone is use to skill trees and builds to one shot or dominate other players, Aion's design is different from that.  It is designed to balance out all classes and let the battle drag on longer, so whoever play their cards right are the ones who will be more successful in PvP.  It is not always the person with the best gears who wins, but gears sure do help a little bit.  In the end the winner is the one that make better judgements when in PvP situations.  Of course that is all after level 25-30 since that is where class balance kick in correctly.

from your point of view,is this game using global way of pvp like in gw you could end up fighting with korean ,russian etc 

is this like this here or no its just usa vs usa,russian vs russian etc?

if you are only speaking of cross culture PvP.  No, only server will have the pleasure of cross culture fighitng would be EU Aion but it will be mostly EU vs EU still.  However, it will still be more interesting than WoW, but not like GW's setup in terms of PvP system design.

FPS will always be the best PvP in my opinion. Aion will suffer the exact same drawbacks as WoW and any other MMORPG, as far as PvP is concerned.

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Originally posted by drbaltazar

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Originally posted by linren

Aion is designed to be PvP centric game, one of it's biggest original focus is PvP in the Abyss as the game's core design.  From what I have experienced so far, it is a good system.  It is not really similar to GW, but in terms of PvP i can be confident it will be more fun than WoW for me.
Problem is if someone is use to skill trees and builds to one shot or dominate other players, Aion's design is different from that.  It is designed to balance out all classes and let the battle drag on longer, so whoever play their cards right are the ones who will be more successful in PvP.  It is not always the person with the best gears who wins, but gears sure do help a little bit.  In the end the winner is the one that make better judgements when in PvP situations.  Of course that is all after level 25-30 since that is where class balance kick in correctly.

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from your point of view,is this game using global way of pvp like in gw you could end up fighting with korean ,russian etc 
is this like this here or no its just usa vs usa,russian vs russian etc?

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This isnt Guild Wars.

Originally posted by linren

Originally posted by drbaltazar

Originally posted by linren

Aion is designed to be PvP centric game, one of it's biggest original focus is PvP in the Abyss as the game's core design.  From what I have experienced so far, it is a good system.  It is not really similar to GW, but in terms of PvP i can be confident it will be more fun than WoW for me.

Problem is if someone is use to skill trees and builds to one shot or dominate other players, Aion's design is different from that.  It is designed to balance out all classes and let the battle drag on longer, so whoever play their cards right are the ones who will be more successful in PvP.  It is not always the person with the best gears who wins, but gears sure do help a little bit.  In the end the winner is the one that make better judgements when in PvP situations.  Of course that is all after level 25-30 since that is where class balance kick in correctly.

from your point of view,is this game using global way of pvp like in gw you could end up fighting with korean ,russian etc 

is this like this here or no its just usa vs usa,russian vs russian etc?

if you are only speaking of cross culture PvP.  No, only server will have the pleasure of cross culture fighitng would be EU Aion but it will be mostly EU vs EU still.  However, it will still be more interesting than WoW, but not like GW's setup in terms of PvP system design.

m ok !ty very much , ill wait but i doubt this game will be as good as gw 2

unless arenanet boot global pvp

i believe global pvp is the way of the future

but then thats my view 

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Originally posted by Palebane
FPS will always be the best PvP. Aion will suffer the exact same drawbacks as WoW and any other MMORPG, as far as PvP is concerned.

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Your reply should of started with "In My Opinion".

Originally posted by Xidal

Don't think aions PvP will even have a chane of being as sucessful as WoWs The combat is to slow, There is not DR system like in WoW, I mean i kited a gladiator for 20min+ on my ranger in the chiniese version of the game before i got him down. Theres really nothing that really requires skill a clicker can be just as sucessful as a person with keybindings since everything takes so god damn much time to do and i really hated the instant cast things in aion i mean If a spell says its instant cast time i should be able to run and do it not press the ability my character stands still shoots the skill then keep on running. Aion is a good game and i enjoy playing it but if i want some PvP action ill just log on my priest and play some arenas, Sure wow is corrupted and the arenas and BGs are a zerg fest basiclly, But WoWs pvp is alot more competative then aions imo, I will still play both the games tho since i'm kinda tierd of WoW atm.
Well i guess ill just go put on my flame cloak before i get a nasty burn.

I wouldn't flame you. There's nothing wrong with liking WOW's system. I loved it, in fact. I really liked the old ranking days. I logged more time in AV than I could even begin to count, lol

I think NCSoft will revamp Aions battle lengths, mark my words, to make it a bit more "westernized." Still, as an older guy who likes to click fight I can appreciate a fight not being over too fast! lol :D

Also, as I mentioned in my earlier post, Aion is new. Just like WOW added and grew it's PvP content, who's to say Aion won't keep bringing fresh things to the game(or at least adding tried and true PvP content)?

Originally posted by kevingaily

Originally posted by Xidal

Don't think aions PvP will even have a chane of being as sucessful as WoWs The combat is to slow, There is not DR system like in WoW, I mean i kited a gladiator for 20min+ on my ranger in the chiniese version of the game before i got him down. Theres really nothing that really requires skill a clicker can be just as sucessful as a person with keybindings since everything takes so god damn much time to do and i really hated the instant cast things in aion i mean If a spell says its instant cast time i should be able to run and do it not press the ability my character stands still shoots the skill then keep on running. Aion is a good game and i enjoy playing it but if i want some PvP action ill just log on my priest and play some arenas, Sure wow is corrupted and the arenas and BGs are a zerg fest basiclly, But WoWs pvp is alot more competative then aions imo, I will still play both the games tho since i'm kinda tierd of WoW atm.
Well i guess ill just go put on my flame cloak before i get a nasty burn.

 

I wouldn't flame you. There's nothing wrong with liking WOW's system. I loved it, in fact. I really liked the old ranking days. I logged more time in AV than I could even begin to count, lol

I think NCSoft will revamp Aions battle lengths, mark my words, to make it a bit more "westernized." Still, as an older guy who likes to click fight I can appreciate a fight not being over too fast! lol :D

Also, as I mentioned in my earlier post, Aion is new. Just like WOW added and grew it's PvP content, who's to say Aion won't keep bringing fresh things to the game(or at least adding tried and true PvP content)?

Totally agree, The pre-BC ranking system was awsome:> , Aion would be my new main game if they made 2 changes, 
1. Adding a rated arena system like in WoW, Thats the only good thing still in WoW, rest is just crap, Its also the only thing game wise i really enjoy. Sure some new games are fun for a few hours but rated 2v2,3v3,5v5 tops them all, never gets boring:P

2. And changed the combat system, by that i mean, Making it abit faster and removing the instant cast thing i mentioned eariler. or just increase the run speed a bit, the walking takes forever. both out and in combat.

And as you said, Aion will surley progress in a good way, Its a big change plaing the 1.0 version of the game and the new 1.5, I really hope and think aion will be a great success here in europe, Also please excuse my english;p

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Posted by drbaltazar
i doubt this game will be as good as gw 2

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Well, Aion's PvP should have no problem being better than GW2's PvP for the single fact that GW2 is *VAPORWARE* at this point. I'd rather play and enjoy pvp in a game that exists now than pine away for a game that is at least a year away from release and whose best features fall squarely under the classification of "potential".

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Posted by drbaltazar
i believe global pvp is the way of the future

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Try EVE.

To one of the posters, it is fair to compare anything released today to WoW. They can take the advancement made in other games and apply it to theirs. Sure it takes time to work kinks out, but being able to learn from its predecessors puts it at a great advantage.

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There was so much hype around AoC (oooh sieges!)and WARs PVP (oooh RvR)when it was released it wasn't funny. The same is occurring now. I'd really wait for it to die down and for the "real" game to shine through.

In terms of small-scale balance, I doubt it will beat WoW in nearby future(1 year at least). Aion is based on very large scale battle, a think that I dislike, but it's a matter of opinion.

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Originally posted by Xidal
Totally agree, The pre-BC ranking system was awsome:> , Aion would be my new main game if they made 2 changes, 
1. Adding a rated arena system like in WoW, Thats the only good thing still in WoW, rest is just crap, Its also the only thing game wise i really enjoy. Sure some new games are fun for a few hours but rated 2v2,3v3,5v5 tops them all, never gets boring:P
2. And changed the combat system, by that i mean, Making it abit faster and removing the instant cast thing i mentioned eariler. or just increase the run speed a bit, the walking takes forever. both out and in combat.

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IMO these are *TERRIBLE* ideas that are better left to rot in WoW.

1. This would drive away as many people if not more than it attracts. Aion is about open, fluid PvP in contested zones; Arenas are artificial constructs for anti-sandbox and cookie-cutter thinkers.
2. This would drive away as many people as it attracts. Aion is an MMO, not an FPS wannabe. (I wouldn't mind running faster, but then again there are ways to speed that up without dumbing down the game)

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Originally posted by Xidal

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Originally posted by kevingaily

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Originally posted by Xidal

Don't think aions PvP will even have a chane of being as sucessful as WoWs The combat is to slow, There is not DR system like in WoW, I mean i kited a gladiator for 20min+ on my ranger in the chiniese version of the game before i got him down. Theres really nothing that really requires skill a clicker can be just as sucessful as a person with keybindings since everything takes so god damn much time to do and i really hated the instant cast things in aion i mean If a spell says its instant cast time i should be able to run and do it not press the ability my character stands still shoots the skill then keep on running. Aion is a good game and i enjoy playing it but if i want some PvP action ill just log on my priest and play some arenas, Sure wow is corrupted and the arenas and BGs are a zerg fest basiclly, But WoWs pvp is alot more competative then aions imo, I will still play both the games tho since i'm kinda tierd of WoW atm.
Well i guess ill just go put on my flame cloak before i get a nasty burn.

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I wouldn't flame you. There's nothing wrong with liking WOW's system. I loved it, in fact. I really liked the old ranking days. I logged more time in AV than I could even begin to count, lol
I think NCSoft will revamp Aions battle lengths, mark my words, to make it a bit more "westernized." Still, as an older guy who likes to click fight I can appreciate a fight not being over too fast! lol :D
Also, as I mentioned in my earlier post, Aion is new. Just like WOW added and grew it's PvP content, who's to say Aion won't keep bringing fresh things to the game(or at least adding tried and true PvP content)?

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Totally agree, The pre-BC ranking system was awsome:> , Aion would be my new main game if they made 2 changes, 
1. Adding a rated arena system like in WoW, Thats the only good thing still in WoW, rest is just crap, Its also the only thing game wise i really enjoy. Sure some new games are fun for a few hours but rated 2v2,3v3,5v5 tops them all, never gets boring:P
2. And changed the combat system, by that i mean, Making it abit faster and removing the instant cast thing i mentioned eariler. or just increase the run speed a bit, the walking takes forever. both out and in combat.
And as you said, Aion will surley progress in a good way, Its a big change plaing the 1.0 version of the game and the new 1.5, I really hope and think aion will be a great success here in europe, Also please excuse my english;p

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Your English is fine unlike the posters.

2 things I don't quite understand, you want the PRE-BC ranking system AND you want the Rated Arena Game system. Wouldn't those two ideas conflict?

BTW when you say PRE-BC you are talking about the Race For High Warlord rank right?
Did you ever make a serious attempt at doing that?

I have no interest in seeing either of your ideas come to fruition in AION.
Arena or as I like to call it PvP ala Basketball Court is bullshit.

I want war pvp, I dont want boxing.

The funny thing is, you already have WoW Arenas.
Don't like AION PvP?
The answer is right in front of you.