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  Daffid011

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9/11/09 1:01:34 PM#81

You can access plenty of free realms content for free without being forced into purchasing things.  At higher levels most of the higher level recipes require membership and things of that nature, but most of the content can be accessed free.  Yes the pet trainer must buy a pet with real cash, so it really isn't a "free" class.  Even though the game constantly tries to get you to subscribe or buy stuff you are not forced to.  The cash shop does have items that are more powerful than ingame rewards or at least as good.  That sort of removes any need to engage in the game, since the content is bypassed and the reward was instant (similar to EQ2 crafting on dungeons).

 

 

Don't get me wrong, there are a lot of good aspects to free realms.  The engine is pretty solid, models well done, etc.

Where free realms fails is that it just isn't a good game and there really isn't much game.  It is litterly a stripped down mmo framework with minigames based on popular console and web games forced into the empty holes.  The majority of the game revolves around leveling characters by playing clones of bejeweled, cooking mana, tower defense, virtual pets, etc.  When you get done doing a specific minigame for 20 levels the only thing that is really left is leveling another job to 20 by doing other minigames.  (old soe haunt: love of filling xp bars as content)

The world is tiny and by tiny I mean at level 1 you can explore the entire world in an hour or two.  So there really isn't some great force keeping content from those who don't spend a fortune, because that game really doesn't have much content.  The content it does have gets boring pretty fast. 

 

I don't want to be to long winded, but yes several soe haunts ruin this game.  The best way I can sum it up is by saying soe has lost touch with what players want.

 

  JYCowboy

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9/11/09 3:27:07 PM#82
Originally posted by Daffid011

You can access plenty of free realms content for free without being forced into purchasing things.  At higher levels most of the higher level recipes require membership and things of that nature, but most of the content can be accessed free.  Yes the pet trainer must buy a pet with real cash, so it really isn't a "free" class.  Even though the game constantly tries to get you to subscribe or buy stuff you are not forced to.  The cash shop does have items that are more powerful than ingame rewards or at least as good.  That sort of removes any need to engage in the game, since the content is bypassed and the reward was instant (similar to EQ2 crafting on dungeons).

 

 

Don't get me wrong, there are a lot of good aspects to free realms.  The engine is pretty solid, models well done, etc.

Where free realms fails is that it just isn't a good game and there really isn't much game.  It is litterly a stripped down mmo framework with minigames based on popular console and web games forced into the empty holes.  The majority of the game revolves around leveling characters by playing clones of bejeweled, cooking mana, tower defense, virtual pets, etc.  When you get done doing a specific minigame for 20 levels the only thing that is really left is leveling another job to 20 by doing other minigames.  (old soe haunt: love of filling xp bars as content)

The world is tiny and by tiny I mean at level 1 you can explore the entire world in an hour or two.  So there really isn't some great force keeping content from those who don't spend a fortune, because that game really doesn't have much content.  The content it does have gets boring pretty fast. 

 

I don't want to be to long winded, but yes several soe haunts ruin this game.  The best way I can sum it up is by saying soe has lost touch with what players want.

 

OK, I see what you are indicating.  Nothing really new to the genere to show FR as a stand out.  All its new to its given market are lost to the mundane issues that SOE has formulated in past endevores.  Would kids still like it?
 

The funny thing about SOE is their devs go to the same bars (in Austin) as all the other MMO companies.  These guys swap ideas as exemplified by SWG's Quest Chronical system which is a copy of CoH Encounter Architeture.  When will they learn that company policy and company theme can get in the way of fun and thus profit?   I will say that with FR they have learned the value of a quality finished product, MAYBE, but they need to go further and find what it is that keeps all those kids playing the browser based F2P games that FR isn't doing.  Again, you gotta give a little to get a little.

  Daffid011

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9/11/09 5:39:39 PM#83

Free realms is just a byproduct of a design process that focuses on how to get players to spend more money in different ways instead of, how do to make a kick ass game that people will want their friends to play with them. 

Soe can get all the technical aspects of an mmo right, but they really lost touch with what they are doing.  It just is not part of their corporate culture anymore.  The driving force right now is sales charts, marketing and revenue streams. 


 

 

  User Deleted
9/11/09 9:27:21 PM#84

This a mini game inside free realms or another game totally?

  Echobe

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9/12/09 8:31:58 AM#85


Originally posted by JestorRodo
This does not make any sense... Making a Free Realms/Star Wars would just be another bank of barely used servers that would produce no profit.

SOE has a broken relationship with Lucas Arts and I doubt that a relationship can be reestablished based on the alleged success of a Free to Play - Kiddie MMO.

IF this is true then its a good thing that I have returned...Looks like I have work to do.



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  efefia

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9/12/09 3:53:25 PM#86
Originally posted by Obraik
Originally posted by Esquire1980

Nothing more than a bone thrown at SOE, by LA, for losing SWG at the release of TOR.


 

Heh, it's quite the meaty bone SOE has been throwen ;)

This will make two Star Wars games SOE has that are based on the period of Star Wars that is most actively being marketed in the media, on TV, in books and in the cinema.  They have the biggest opportunities to ride on the wave of Star Wars popularity already built up by these campaigns.  Bioware on the other hand is in a time period that (relatively) very few know much about.  I'm NOT saying TOR is destined to be less popular, I'm sure it'll attract a healthy population of die-hards, but this new Clone Wars MMO and SWG certainly aren't out of the picture.


 

You're a funny chap Obraik, you spent the best part of 2 years openly dismissing BioWare's Star Wars mmo as just a "rumour" despite insummountable evidence and yet the first "rumour" that comes along that supports your pro-SOE agenda and.... you're all over it like a cheap suit.

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  ericlatrelle

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9/12/09 10:42:50 PM#87
Originally posted by efefia
Originally posted by Obraik
Originally posted by Esquire1980

Nothing more than a bone thrown at SOE, by LA, for losing SWG at the release of TOR.


 

Heh, it's quite the meaty bone SOE has been throwen ;)

This will make two Star Wars games SOE has that are based on the period of Star Wars that is most actively being marketed in the media, on TV, in books and in the cinema.  They have the biggest opportunities to ride on the wave of Star Wars popularity already built up by these campaigns.  Bioware on the other hand is in a time period that (relatively) very few know much about.  I'm NOT saying TOR is destined to be less popular, I'm sure it'll attract a healthy population of die-hards, but this new Clone Wars MMO and SWG certainly aren't out of the picture.


 

You're a funny chap Obraik, you spent the best part of 2 years openly dismissing BioWare's Star Wars mmo as just a "rumour" despite insummountable evidence and yet the first "rumour" that comes along that supports your pro-SOE agenda and.... you're all over it like a cheap suit.

Of course. That's how all the SWG cheerleaders are. They would never say anything negative about it even if the evidence is against it.

  User Deleted
9/13/09 6:46:21 PM#88


Originally posted by Echobe

Originally posted by JestorRodo
This does not make any sense... Making a Free Realms/Star Wars would just be another bank of barely used servers that would produce no profit.

SOE has a broken relationship with Lucas Arts and I doubt that a relationship can be reestablished based on the alleged success of a Free to Play - Kiddie MMO.

IF this is true then its a good thing that I have returned...Looks like I have work to do.



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  blueshadow

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9/14/09 9:23:54 PM#89

Wish they would bring back PRE CU SWG instead. That was a good game.

Just don't add Pizza ordering system to this one.

  lorechaser

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9/14/09 9:35:06 PM#90
Originally posted by soap46

SOE...  Making ANOTHER Star Wars game...  Probably cartooney...  Maybe based on Clone Wars??? 

 

Man...  Sony just bent all my awesome childhood memories of Chewbacca and Han Solo and Boba Fett over a table and broke out the bat.  Why, Sony, WHY MUST YOU DO THIS TO THE MOST BELOVED IP EVER???

 

Totally.  Where are my ewoks, my Star Wars christmas special, and my 3po with his head on backwards, dammit!?

Don't get me wrong - I still have 3 active SWG subs out of my 6.  I have a wookie on one of my cars and the rebel alliance symbol on the other, I convinced my wife last weekend that getting a Star Wars tattoo would be okay, as long as it wasn't on my forehead, I have serious discussions about whether we need to buy another bookshelf for my figures.  I am a Star Wars fan by any measure.

Star Wars is not high art.  It's f'in awesome, it's a hell of a lot of fun, and it's got a long history.  But it's not art.  Jar Jar sucks, but I don't hate him any more than I hate Ewoks smashing AT-STs with logs.

Admit it - when you were 12, a browser based SW game, had it existed in any reasonable form, would have blown your head open.  I mean, seriously, I was playing Empire Strikes Back on the Atari, and thinking it was the best thing ever, and spending all my allowance on that trench running Star Wars arcade game.  I think the old stuff is better, but I'm not going to hate the new stuff because it's not what I remember.  

I know, this is the haven of those who will never forget, and never forgive, but honestly - how does this hurt you any more than Droids?

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  ArcheusCross

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9/15/09 1:50:50 AM#91
Originally posted by kefkah

LIke I said elsewhere, SOE bragged up those useless Free Realms sub numbers to dangle a carrot in front of the one company that wants WoW numbers. 4 Million falls into that category despite being useless free accounts.

Sadly, this is like watching spiders mate.

 

ah yes, 4 mil perhaps.. but they are idiots if they think subs in a free game translates into subs for a paid game... theres a reason people play the free game. lol...

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  ArcheusCross

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9/15/09 1:59:13 AM#92
Originally posted by nickelpat

 I'm scared now... somone... hold me, make the pain stop!

On a more serious note, I really can't bel.... Oh yeah, it's SOE. I can believe SOE is doing this to Star Wars, I just don't like it.

 

The humorous part about it is they keep toting their "yeah weve learned from our mistakes" yet  they are still trying to get that piece of wows pie number wise, and still effecting swg directly in this move..

Humorous.

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  ArcheusCross

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9/15/09 2:31:44 AM#93
Originally posted by JestorRodo

 

 

Agreed, since Free Realms is the only completed product from SOE in years and The Agency and DC online have a yet to be determined street dates, SOE is scrambling to throw up any piece of crap they came quickly conjure up.... Lets take Free Realms and change all the stuff to Clone Wars . Rippping themselves off like they do with the TOC's, SOE does not like to work too hard to make what little money they can by giving it away for free. SCE does not care...why should you or I?

 

 

 

Lol.. I can see it now...

Person logs into free realms. Downloads patch. System message: WELCOME TO FREE GALAXIES! We did a select group survey and found out many of yo... er... people wanted this change so we did it to appease the masses!

Oh and don't forget to try out our card game item mall! Have fun!

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  User Deleted
9/15/09 5:42:44 AM#94


Originally posted by ArcheusCross

Originally posted by JestorRodo

 
 
Agreed, since Free Realms is the only completed product from SOE in years and The Agency and DC online have a yet to be determined street dates, SOE is scrambling to throw up any piece of crap they came quickly conjure up.... Lets take Free Realms and change all the stuff to Clone Wars . Rippping themselves off like they do with the TOC's, SOE does not like to work too hard to make what little money they can by giving it away for free. SCE does not care...why should you or I?
 
 



 
Lol.. I can see it now...
Person logs into free realms. Downloads patch. System message: WELCOME TO FREE GALAXIES! We did a select group survey and found out many of yo... er... people wanted this change so we did it to appease the masses!
Oh and don't forget to try out our card game item mall! Have fun!
ZInnnngg!


This is one of tthe worse business idea since New Coke, its Newer Coke. SOE and LA have an Epic Fail with the NGE and now thay are going to team up again too Epically Fail again.

No matter how simple or easy is for SOE to do , it makes me wonder why LA would entrust its franchise to SOE again. I comment further about this on the Rodo Report.
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  Daffid011

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9/15/09 4:11:28 PM#95
Originally posted by Bob_Blawblaw

Via Twitter:

http://twitter.com/lucasartsgames/statuses/3857023214

 

Some sort of game announcement on Friday. I think it's 'Free Galaxies' , but I hope it's Shadows Of The Empire for console download.

 

Not exactly what you exected

  Bob_Blawblaw

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9/17/09 9:49:13 AM#96
Originally posted by Daffid011
Originally posted by Bob_Blawblaw

Via Twitter:

http://twitter.com/lucasartsgames/statuses/3857023214

 

Some sort of game announcement on Friday. I think it's 'Free Galaxies' , but I hope it's Shadows Of The Empire for console download.

 

Not exactly what you exected

 

Not even close. But at least the Dark Forces series hit Steam. I'll give LEC props for that one.

  User Deleted
9/18/09 8:33:33 AM#97

Its tough to find confirmation of this rumor from SOE or LA. It sounds simple enough for SOE to do..Take the Free Realms format and StarWarsy it , albeit Clone Wars.

As I mentioned on the Report , I find it hard to believe that LA has forgot much less forgive SOE for the mishandling of SWG. In Case they did and this rumored Self ripoff of a current SOE product comes into being, I am sure that we can remind them.... We might as well since we will be counted among the active player base by SOE.

  Obraik

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9/18/09 8:51:59 AM#98

Smedley has confirmed they're woking on another kids MMO based on FreeRealm's:

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6227728.html

No confirmation of the theme of the game.

  bobajango

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9/18/09 11:01:25 AM#99

It's a casual childrens game ppl.are you too dense to realise it's not a hardcore MMO?Have you been grinding too long to remeber that MMO's are games and thier supposed to be fun?This is for CHILDREN,just like the clone wars cartoons are for CHILDREN,just like Jar Jar Binks is for CHILDREN.If your one of the ones that get upset over things for CHILDREN to enjoy it's time for you to get a life.

 

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  Bob_Blawblaw

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9/18/09 11:44:04 AM#100
Originally posted by bobajango

It's a casual childrens game ppl.are you too dense to realise it's not a hardcore MMO?Have you been grinding too long to remeber that MMO's are games and thier supposed to be fun?This is for CHILDREN,just like the clone wars cartoons are for CHILDREN,just like Jar Jar Binks is for CHILDREN.If your one of the ones that get upset over things for CHILDREN to enjoy it's time for you to get a life.

 

~Aylen Darkblade,Orwind Darkblade,(Chilastra:2004-2006)Aylen Mando'a(Bria:2007-2008)Yes i know all about SOE.

 

Just curious, where did you hear ANYONE claim it's anything but a kids game?

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