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Round Table Pub (General)  » DAoC 2 - Would you play it?

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  Cherise

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9/09/09 7:52:12 AM#61

If the PvE environment was similar to what it was, absolutely would play it.  Was the most I've enjoyed PvE in any game to date.  Tons of zones and dungeons to explore, epic armor obtainable by a small group, beautiful setting, and loved the housing.

  beeker255

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9/09/09 7:58:53 AM#62
Originally posted by Cherise

If the PvE environment was similar to what it was, absolutely would play it.  Was the most I've enjoyed PvE in any game to date.  Tons of zones and dungeons to explore, epic armor obtainable by a small group, beautiful setting, and loved the housing.

Alot of people bag on the PVE in DAOC but I too also loved it. There was awesome dungeons I always thought in SI ...I mainly just played midguard but I loved TG and several others I cant remember the name of hehe but yeah I agree. I still love going to DF. Laby sorta annoyed me. I liked the setting and I know its a labyrinth lol but damn I got lost alot and it all looked same to me which I know is a point of a labyrinth....but I still can be annoyed by it hehe.

  marypnj

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9/09/09 6:41:32 PM#63

I would play in a heart beat!   DAoC was my first love and it was an excellent RP environment.  ToA killed it for me and I quit saying I would come back when they saw the error of their ways and did away with it.  Mythic did bring up 'classic' servers and I was back for another few years run.  Finally left for good about a year ago but still have a yearning to go back.....

 

Still miss the ambiance and the RvR was awesome.  The good  ol' days when a young'n yelled that they were offed by another realm in OUR territory, we all headed out to avenge them and exact our pound of flesh for trespassing..... *sigh YEAH... I'd go back.....

  garrett

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9/11/09 9:37:03 AM#64

Yes I would play it.

 

**SCOOP ... I am having lunch with some Mythic folks next week at AGDC....I intend to bring up this very topic first thing!

  marypnj

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9/12/09 8:00:39 PM#65
Originally posted by garrett

Yes I would play it.

 

**SCOOP ... I am having lunch with some Mythic folks next week at AGDC....I intend to bring up this very topic first thing!

 

Not only bring it up but print out the posts or at least mention that it has grown to over 7 pages without much fanfare to drive up traffic to this thread.

  User Deleted
9/12/09 8:46:06 PM#66

I loved daoc.

But I voted no.

I guess I would really have to see how it turned out to make a decision.

I just see too many potential problems.

Everyone would have unrealistically high expectations.
DAOC would not only have to live up to what it was, but what people remember.

And then if its DAOC 2 it would have to be better, right?


And then if all that went perfectly, Mythic would screw it up by using that old pos engine.

  Gravarg

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For the Queen!

9/12/09 8:52:19 PM#67

yes

  parrotpholk

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9/12/09 8:53:49 PM#68

 Without blinking.

  Vhaln

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9/13/09 11:13:31 AM#69
Originally posted by beeker255
Originally posted by Cherise

If the PvE environment was similar to what it was, absolutely would play it.  Was the most I've enjoyed PvE in any game to date.  Tons of zones and dungeons to explore, epic armor obtainable by a small group, beautiful setting, and loved the housing.

Alot of people bag on the PVE in DAOC but I too also loved it. There was awesome dungeons I always thought in SI ...I mainly just played midguard but I loved TG and several others I cant remember the name of hehe but yeah I agree. I still love going to DF. Laby sorta annoyed me. I liked the setting and I know its a labyrinth lol but damn I got lost alot and it all looked same to me which I know is a point of a labyrinth....but I still can be annoyed by it hehe.

 

I think people who say DAOC had lousy PvE either don't remember what it was like before ToA, or they weren't even there for it, maybe having joined DAOC later.  Or they're in the minority (usually casual player PvP types) that just wanted to do battlegrounds, and never really got into the extensive group PvE of the original game, and SI.  

There was a lot there, and I felt the group dynamics were a step up from EQ.  It was the only game (that I played) that was a step up from EQ, when it came to group PvE, before MMOs all became solo races to endgame - which ironically tends to suck the life out of any sort of endgame, even if there is one.

 

When I want a single-player story, I'll play a single-player game. When I play an MMO, I want a massively multiplayer world.

  gnomexxx

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"Every generation needs a new revolution." - Thomas Jefferson

9/13/09 1:58:36 PM#70
Originally posted by logangregor

I loved daoc.

But I voted no.

I guess I would really have to see how it turned out to make a decision.

 

I just see too many potential problems.

Everyone would have unrealistically high expectations.
DAOC would not only have to live up to what it was, but what people remember.

And then if its DAOC 2 it would have to be better, right?


And then if all that went perfectly, Mythic would screw it up by using that old pos engine.

Oh, c'mon.  You know you would buy it.  Curiosity would win out and you'd at least go for the free month.

I mean, come on, it's DAoC2. 

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  shhwolf17

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engineers are the best guys to date because we are taught to do it right the first time...

9/13/09 2:01:32 PM#71

With how poor Warhammer was, I would be really worried about DAOC2 and probably wouldn't play it just to save my time

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  User Deleted
9/13/09 3:49:42 PM#72


Originally posted by gnomexxx

Originally posted by logangregor

I loved daoc.
But I voted no.
I guess I would really have to see how it turned out to make a decision.
 
I just see too many potential problems.
Everyone would have unrealistically high expectations.
DAOC would not only have to live up to what it was, but what people remember.
And then if its DAOC 2 it would have to be better, right?

And then if all that went perfectly, Mythic would screw it up by using that old pos engine.



Oh, c'mon.  You know you would buy it.  Curiosity would win out and you'd at least go for the free month.
I mean, come on, it's DAoC2. 

Ive played worse, so yeah Id at least play first couple weeks.

Whether I think the game would meet Ex DAOC'ers criteria of success, I refer to my above comments.

  Fennris

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9/13/09 4:15:50 PM#73

The problem is that sequels have not historically resembled their predecessors.

EQ1 => EQ2

AC1 => AC2

Warhammer was basically the "sequel" to DAOC but with an IP

Judging a company by past efforts hasn't been useful.  Look at Turbine - they've made several games and they are all over the map in terms of success/quality/etc..  Funcom produced two major games and they learned next to nothing from their first.

It's just a question that needs to be answered when we see it.

The only exception that I know of is CoX => CO (same basic games but one is newer and has an IP) - both games are solid and playable but share many of the same weaknesses and at this time I can't say that CO is necessarily even better than CoX.

  Vhaln

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9/14/09 9:00:38 AM#74
Originally posted by Fennris

The only exception that I know of is CoX => CO (same basic games but one is newer and has an IP) - both games are solid and playable but share many of the same weaknesses and at this time I can't say that CO is necessarily even better than CoX.

 

I don't get why so many people have trouble seeing past the superhero theme, but in other major respects, I think CO is toCOH as WAR is to DAOC.  Check out CO a year from now, and I bet it'll be more obvious. 

..but anyhow, yeah, I don't think the development company has as much to do with which games are good as it might seem.  It's the individual devs who are involved, and how alike are the credits really, if you compare all the individual names who worked on EQ vs EQ2, AC vs AC2, or DAOC vs WAR?  The same dev company doesn't n mean all the same designers, coders, writers, and artists. 

When I want a single-player story, I'll play a single-player game. When I play an MMO, I want a massively multiplayer world.

  Sixpax

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9/14/09 9:34:09 AM#75

I would definitely play it if they stuck to the major points that made DAoC a success:  3 realms; PvE that favored groups but was still soloable; large world that wasn't linear; numerous classes to choose from; a persistent battleground (not just a timed mini-game); rock-paper-scissors approach to PvP; Darkness Falls; and of course the superb RvR.  Also, I loved the raiding in DAoC (DF, SI dungeons, world dragons, etc).  It was very much a community effort because it wasn't instanced.  Instancing has it's benefits, but has also killed the community aspect of MMO's.

MMO games would be pretty cool if it weren't for the people.

  RonPaul2016

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11/09/09 5:06:07 AM#76

I played DAoC from Oct 01’- spring 03’. I played after SI but left before housing. DAoC is the only MMO I ever played. I quit, not because I found greener pastures, but because the game was too addicting. In the past few weeks I’ve been thinking about playing an MMO again. I looked around online but none of them interest me so I’m thinking about coming back to DAoC. I thought that I’d offer my opinion on the whole DAoC 2 thing, because it could be a fresh (or stale/old) perspective.

There are two primary reasons why I am willing to go back to DAoC and not Wow, WAR or AION. The first is that I loved the graphics of DAoC. From what I understand, everyone now thinks that they are outdated. While that is probably true, the game looks more realistic to me and not all cartoonish. I do not like the cartoon characters of WoW and these other games. I want the characters and environment to look as real as possible. The second and most important reason I’d go back to DAoC is because in the past two weeks of hardcore reading online, I have yet to read a post from a single person stating that RvR has been done better elsewhere. RvR is why I loved DAoC. If nobody has since improved upon it, then I don’t want to waste my time playing his game.

PvE
I thought that the PvE in DAoC was perfect. In my opinion, even Darkness Falls (and the fact that everyone became more familiar with mob camps and their class abilities) began to make powerleveling too easy. Nevertheless, I still thought that the time it took to get to level 50 after SI was fine. I hear now that people can level to 50 in a few weeks or even a weekend, and that is just ridiculous. It should take at least a few months to get from 0 to 50, and that is if you dedicate yourself hardcore to that mission (buff botts, powerleveling, no RvR, no crafting, etc). The longer it takes to build your character the more you are invested in it. The more you are invested in it the less likely you are to leave the game. That is why I’m trying to track down my old level 50 and pay money for it, instead of starting from scratch—because I am attached to it and spent all that time on it.

You should always get more XP while working in groups. A soloer with a buffbot should not be able to level as fast as those who work in groups. Least XP = soling. Next to least = soloing with a buffbot (or better yet, see below) or doing a solo quest. Middle XP = doing quests with groups or killing mobs with medium sized groups. Best XP = killing mobs with full sized groups.

RvR –
There will always be a mob mentality and there will always be loner stealthers. The problem, in my opinion, was getting small groups (2-6 people) in the frontier. One idea I thought of was instead of having one port of entrance into the enemy’s frontier, you could have two separate ones. Which one you go do depends on which portal you leave in your own land (instead of having just one, install a second portal at the other entrance to your own frontier). Having two portals that take you to two separate regions of the enemy’s frontiers would help disperse the populations throughout the frontiers better. Most importantly, it would help solve the stealther camping the milegate problem. Stealthers would be less inclined to camp milegate 1 or 2, because people are also filtering in through milegates 3 and 4. And if you keep getting killed by the same toons camping the same spot, you could simply transport over to the other side of the frontier.  Oh yeah, and there needs to be 3 realms not 2.

Crafting-
No drop should ever be as good as the best crafted piece. A 1,000 skilled amorcrafter who makes a masterpiece should be better than ANY drop in the game. But a masterpiece should be 1 in 100 attempts. I do believe that there needs to be an incentive to fight dragons and what not, though. So maybe they could have drops that equal to the best crafted armor, OR, slightly less equal but have cool effects (glow or something else silly) that crafted items cannot. I left before housing, but from what I understand it isolated people. Housing should be placed in the capital city, with a communal forge for all the houses. Also, if you are going to have in-game merchants maybe the NPC merchant can collect a fee (10% or 20% or something) from the crafter with each item it sells. This means that it is more expensive to buy from a merchant so people will wait to contact real people in game to get a better price. But it also allows you to buy from an NPC in an emergency if you need to.

Expansions-
Thoroughly test EVERYTHING on the test server for an adequate amount of time so you get feedback on it. When I played the test server (Pendragon ) hardly had anyone play it. Maybe you could entice people to play on this server by allowing them to transfer any gold/money they make on Pendragon to their normal server. I don’t know, but come up with some way to get a large population on the test server. Then you can release expansion on the test server first. If after 2 months of ToA being on the test server you realize that 90% of the population says it sucks, then you eat the money and don’t release it (or fix it). That is better than releasing it and driving everyone away from the game.


Bots-
I don’t think they should be banned. Maybe as a rule make it so that you can’t get buffs from somebody unless they are in your group. Also, put a range on them. This means that no lowly toon in PvE will get to powerlevel with a buffbot because if they group the lowerlevel won’t get XP because the mobs are gray to the buffbot. And in RvR this means two things: that the stealther (or whatever class) does not get all the realm points because he is grouped with a bot, and because there the bot has to be within range it is exposed to danger and getting killed also.

Advertise –
Why is it that I’ve seen Mr. T advertising for Warcraft, but I’ve never seen a commercial for Mythic’s products? Also, they need to be creative. Find ways to make it go viral on the Internet. Maybe tell subscribers that for each person they get to subscribe to the game, once that person pays for 3 months you get a month free. That means if I get 10 friends to play the game, and they all subscribe for 3 months or more, I get 10 months free. You just ask new people who subscribe “who referred you?”
 

  Honkie

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11/09/09 5:09:37 AM#77

No.  But I'd play Shadowbane 2 in a heartbeat, on preorder.

  BuzWeaver

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11/09/09 7:50:31 PM#78


Originally posted by gnomechef
Ok simple question after reading Garret Fuller's column, if Mythic were to ressurect Dark age of Camelot and make it bigger and better, update graphics, etc. - Would you play it???
For me its a yes.


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  Tyranix

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11/19/09 12:48:44 AM#79

Yes I would play part 2 of the best PVP MMORPG ever created

  Halfmad

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12/20/09 4:34:54 PM#80

DAOC 2? Hell yes I'd buy it in a heartbeat, then worry about my divorce later.. (through neglect due to gaming addiction..)

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