Originally posted by Manchine

Originally posted by dougmysticey

So I ran over to Gamestiop to pick up my CO pre-order and the guy who works there told me about a customer who came in.

This customer pre-ordered 3 copies of CO (Himself, Wife, Son) and stated they all got life time subs. That is over $750 US. That is a ton of money for one game. Could almost buy a big screen TV for that.

 

Lets see. I know me and the wife got our lifetime subs.  I also know a friend of mine and his wife got there lifetime sub.  Thats 4 that I know of.  =)  Personally I don't see anything wrong with it.

There is nothing wrong with it:) Just a lot of money and even more than the OP spent.
 

et me help put it in perspective. IF....huge IF, your daughter suddenly decides to like CO. Will she really play it for 1.5 years? Really?

Yep. Given I haven't been able to play COH since she took it over about 3 years ago, I'd say that was a wise investment.

Originally posted by Dionyseus

I looked at some of your past posts and I noticed that the day before you decided to get the sub you posted that your daughter played CO for an hour and she ended with "That sucks, I am outie."  I am beginning to think the CO sub is more for you rather than for her. 

post #12: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/3052705#3052705

Yep! Which is what she said about City of Heroes back when she first found it as well. I suspect that in a few months she'll be like..."So, how about that CO subscription?" and I'll smile and say "Oh..well surprise."

I would definitely enjoy playing the game wITH her.

$200 isn't that much money at all. I spend that every 2 weeks on alcohol. Hell i just spent $700 on CHL season tickets and that only last for 5 months.. MMO's are still a bargain.

Originally posted by Torak

Originally posted by Lobotomist

Whow, some people really dont know what to do with money

 

Perhaps you could invested that 200$ into your daughters education ?

 

WTF is your issue lobo? They guy can't play an MMO with his kid without you dragging your morality into it? Maybe education isn't an issue right now, maybe she's all set up, maybe her education isn't any of our business...

Maybe he's just talking about a game.

No, 200 bucks isn't a lot of money to us older career folks and 200 isn't enough to even dent educational needs, it's ike one textbook.

Get off your high horse and write about games.

 

QTF and well said, hell the fact he has $500 to spend on a game all at once shows he's comfortable at the very least in his income. and losers without kids can spout thier nonsense all they want, when you have a common intrest/connection with your kids, we do everything we can to strengthen that. would be great if my duaghter was into mmos would be fun.

Originally posted by abyss610

QTF and well said, hell the fact he has $500 to spend on a game all at once shows he's comfortable at the very least in his income. and losers without kids can spout thier nonsense all they want, when you have a common intrest/connection with your kids, we do everything we can to strengthen that. would be great if my duaghter was into mmos would be fun.

 

Well naturally, 200 bucks is not something I would say is chump change. I work for a living and recognize thats an investment.

However, when I look at the fact I tend to subscribe permanently to a game when I like it, 200 dollars seems like a steal.

I have Lifetime to LOTRO and I've been subbed to WOW and COH since launch.

As to getting your kids into MMOs, there are plusses and minuses to anything. The key is to stress "Hey, make sure you get other things done first"

I have to admit though with the CO launch, I could hardly think of anything else today. This game really seems 'special' in the same way I felt WOW was special on the first day of launch.

Meh if someone wants to spend the money for lifetime sub and enjoys the game more power to 'em.

My personally I couldn't get enough into CO (was in the CB when it started right through..) to want to pre-order it.  Yet as I like to piont out games are subjective..

I actually often wish I had paid the lifetime sub for lotro when it came out.. 

200 bucks is about 3.5 console games. I've got stacks of those sitting around my house gathering dust. So if you want to get on me for buying anything stupid, its probably 'Superman" for XBOX360. The Gamestop guy was like "Its like GTA except you are Superman" and I totally believed him (He hadn't lied to me before).

I have a friend who thinks everything on the internet should be free. I guess he was there that day when someone said "All services on the internet will cost zero dollars". So while he makes a comfortable living and would think nothing of spending 15 bucks on lunch at a decent restaurant, spending 15 bucks to play a game with dynamic content for a full month blows his mind and makes steam come out of his ears.

I think when you put that 15 bucks in perspective to the amount of fun you get out of it (or do not) as it compares to the cost of a lunch or a console game (or whatever form of entertainment you want to compare it too) it's really pretty good value.

I would not consider myself the typical 'fanboi' type. I am a professional who has been playing computer games since the early 1980s. My favorites are turn based strategies and open world games that lets me choose my own path (fallout 3 or GTA types).

I am skeptical of mmos and games and their promises, yet at the same time I try to look at it on the positive side. I empathize with the developers releasing this game and tweaking it is a massive undertaking. It takes a lot of coordination, change control and analysis. I doubt they do stuff 'randomly' or with no direction or plan, however I also don't delude myself into thinking its ALL coming from bill roper.. There are proabbly several opinions on how to do this involved and they may even have opposing viewpoints on how to do that.

This game however, I don't have a problem spending the first 200 bucks for myself. That was a given. I had decided that during beta this was worth the risk. The big issue I had was it was killing me 15 minutes before this deal was gone to think "Hey in about 4 months when CO kicks COH's ass and all her friends go to CO will she change her tune and want to play? and won't it be cool if I can say "Hey, I knew you would want to play with your dear old dad, so I got you a copy." (even if in reality, it will be her friends that probably bring her to CO. Its the user community on COH that keeps her there, not the game so much)

Originally posted by Fkinglinux

Don't really see the need to be insulting to the OP :(, Although I'll admit I want this game to flop so hard Cryptic goes out of business and no other company will ever again attempt to put Item Malls and Pay2Play together ever again out of sheer terror.

Right because it's not fair people buy those game breaking action figures. Which do nothing but follow you around.

I don't understand the hostility because the guy like the game or he bought a second sub. in the end does it really matter to you trolls?

Originally posted by qotsa

Originally posted by Fkinglinux

Don't really see the need to be insulting to the OP :(, Although I'll admit I want this game to flop so hard Cryptic goes out of business and no other company will ever again attempt to put Item Malls and Pay2Play together ever again out of sheer terror.

 

Right because it's not fair people buy those game breaking action figures. Which do nothing but follow you around.

I don't understand the hostility because the guy like the game or he bought a second sub. in the end does it really matter to you trolls?

Cryptic has already stated there will be gameplay changing items from micro transactions, just because they aren't there on Day 1 doesn't mean they will never be. Also, I hope you aren't calling me a troll for defending the OP.

Originally posted by Fkinglinux

Originally posted by qotsa

Originally posted by Fkinglinux

Don't really see the need to be insulting to the OP :(, Although I'll admit I want this game to flop so hard Cryptic goes out of business and no other company will ever again attempt to put Item Malls and Pay2Play together ever again out of sheer terror.

 

Right because it's not fair people buy those game breaking action figures. Which do nothing but follow you around.

I don't understand the hostility because the guy like the game or he bought a second sub. in the end does it really matter to you trolls?

 

Cryptic has already stated there will be gameplay changing items from micro transactions, just because they aren't there on Day 1 doesn't mean they will never be. Also, I hope you aren't calling me a troll for defending the OP.

But that is only part of the statememt. Cryptic also said that most of the items would be costume pieces, action figures, etc and ANYTHING otherwise that can be bought can also be earned in game.

We would all be a fool to think they are not going to optimize their item shop to sell worth while things though (which means game impacting items)...at some point. As long as those are reasonably attainable, as they have stated, wthin the game itself then I am OK with it and it is not that big of a deal. Right now, I see the most valuable thing they could sell would be additional character slots. Later, they will probably keep the respec in game costs a little high and offer a micro transaction for those (guessing but makes sense as repecing your character seems to come up a lot).

Anyway, back to the OP, Just hope his daughter gets into it as it is a FUN GAME.

Originally posted by Fkinglinux

Originally posted by qotsa

Originally posted by Fkinglinux

Don't really see the need to be insulting to the OP :(, Although I'll admit I want this game to flop so hard Cryptic goes out of business and no other company will ever again attempt to put Item Malls and Pay2Play together ever again out of sheer terror.

 

Right because it's not fair people buy those game breaking action figures. Which do nothing but follow you around.

I don't understand the hostility because the guy like the game or he bought a second sub. in the end does it really matter to you trolls?

 

Cryptic has already stated there will be gameplay changing items from micro transactions, just because they aren't there on Day 1 doesn't mean they will never be. Also, I hope you aren't calling me a troll for defending the OP.

No sir. It's a separate paragraph.

As far as the item shop. None of the game changing stuff is exclusive to the store right? Thought that is what was said. Either way, I got the game I played in beta. Nothing was taken out of the game so they could put in the store. At least not from what I've seen. It was and still is fun to me. That's all that really matters to me. Someone I don't know buying something in a store isn't going to ruin my fun. It has no effect on how I level or have fun. I wasn't going to buy the game originally for the very same reasons as you.

lol.. dude .

I still dont get how can people pay $200 for such a limited game but hey.. thats just me.. still.. will you be playing this in 2 years? Are you sure about that?

Even better.. will this game still be live in 2 years? hmmm..

You are aware that there are a lot of people in the world that have a lot of money to the point where money isn't even a factor with any purchasing decision?

I think some people just assume that money is tight for everyone. The truth is that it's not.

Originally posted by Malakhon

Originally posted by abyss610

QTF and well said, hell the fact he has $500 to spend on a game all at once shows he's comfortable at the very least in his income. and losers without kids can spout thier nonsense all they want, when you have a common intrest/connection with your kids, we do everything we can to strengthen that. would be great if my duaghter was into mmos would be fun.

 

 

Well naturally, 200 bucks is not something I would say is chump change. I work for a living and recognize thats an investment.

However, when I look at the fact I tend to subscribe permanently to a game when I like it, 200 dollars seems like a steal.

I have Lifetime to LOTRO and I've been subbed to WOW and COH since launch.

As to getting your kids into MMOs, there are plusses and minuses to anything. The key is to stress "Hey, make sure you get other things done first"

I have to admit though with the CO launch, I could hardly think of anything else today. This game really seems 'special' in the same way I felt WOW was special on the first day of launch.

I'm curious if you still feel that way after all the nerfs rolled out on launch day.

I was in CO's alpha and beta, and I didn't find the game fun at all.  All of the earlier things which I *DID* like about it were either removed entirely (leveling up anywhere) or were changed to be more like CoH (travel power suppression).  Now it seems like the Devs have taken the last remaining fun thing out of the game -- that you could be somewhat superheroic in certain instances with specific builds -- and made it hard to do anything without a team for most builds.

When CoH's Issue 16 comes out, I'll be resubbing to that game, because I still feel its siren call, and CO's missteps and mistakes have made me appreciate CoH all the more.

Originally posted by trike 

I'm curious if you still feel that way after all the nerfs rolled out on launch day.

I was in CO's alpha and beta, and I didn't find the game fun at all.  All of the earlier things which I *DID* like about it were either removed entirely (leveling up anywhere) or were changed to be more like CoH (travel power suppression).  Now it seems like the Devs have taken the last remaining fun thing out of the game -- that you could be somewhat superheroic in certain instances with specific builds -- and made it hard to do anything without a team for most builds.

When CoH's Issue 16 comes out, I'll be resubbing to that game, because I still feel its siren call, and CO's missteps and mistakes have made me appreciate CoH all the more.

Exactly how I feel. I was also in CO alpha and beta and the game that went live is a hallow shell of what it could have been.

I'm not even sure how Cryptic can justify selling lifetime subscriptions. I mean there is not enough content in the game to last a month. I guess it was a money grab thing since Roper did the same thing with Hellgate.

My feeling is that STO is Cryptic's new baby and CO, which may have been their flagship game at one point, is now being used to fund STO.

Originally posted by heartless

Originally posted by trike 

I'm curious if you still feel that way after all the nerfs rolled out on launch day.

I was in CO's alpha and beta, and I didn't find the game fun at all.  All of the earlier things which I *DID* like about it were either removed entirely (leveling up anywhere) or were changed to be more like CoH (travel power suppression).  Now it seems like the Devs have taken the last remaining fun thing out of the game -- that you could be somewhat superheroic in certain instances with specific builds -- and made it hard to do anything without a team for most builds.

When CoH's Issue 16 comes out, I'll be resubbing to that game, because I still feel its siren call, and CO's missteps and mistakes have made me appreciate CoH all the more.

 

Exactly how I feel. I was also in CO alpha and beta and the game that went live is a hallow shell of what it could have been.

I'm not even sure how Cryptic can justify selling lifetime subscriptions. I mean there is not enough content in the game to last a month. I guess it was a money grab thing since Roper did the same thing with Hellgate.

My feeling is that STO is Cryptic's new baby and CO, which may have been their flagship game at one point, is now being used to fund STO.

They are giving refunds on lifetime subs and 6-month subs if you call customer service. Hope that helps some if you feel like your lifetime subs didn't end up being worth it.

Originally posted by heartless

Originally posted by trike 

I'm curious if you still feel that way after all the nerfs rolled out on launch day.

I was in CO's alpha and beta, and I didn't find the game fun at all.  All of the earlier things which I *DID* like about it were either removed entirely (leveling up anywhere) or were changed to be more like CoH (travel power suppression).  Now it seems like the Devs have taken the last remaining fun thing out of the game -- that you could be somewhat superheroic in certain instances with specific builds -- and made it hard to do anything without a team for most builds.

When CoH's Issue 16 comes out, I'll be resubbing to that game, because I still feel its siren call, and CO's missteps and mistakes have made me appreciate CoH all the more.

 

Exactly how I feel. I was also in CO alpha and beta and the game that went live is a hallow shell of what it could have been.

I'm not even sure how Cryptic can justify selling lifetime subscriptions. I mean there is not enough content in the game to last a month. I guess it was a money grab thing since Roper did the same thing with Hellgate.

My feeling is that STO is Cryptic's new baby and CO, which may have been their flagship game at one point, is now being used to fund STO.

They did the same thing to CoX. They milked the game with a minimum live staff (1/4th it's present staff) while they developed MUO/CO and then eventually sold it off to NCSoft (where it is presently in better hands).

my niece told me not to drop 200 hundred cuz its not worth it... she said pay by little is better and in case quit fast dont have to waste for nothing.